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Topic: Nothing at all will happen on january 31st. Please stop talking about it (Read 3972 times)

legendary
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Looks like nothing happened.

Rome wasn't built in a day.....

.....it wasn't destroyed in a day either.

yeah but on 31st of january, which is in the topic of this thread, nothing happened, so your comment is a quintessence of stupid - it does not contradict the original post, it adds a useless and irrelevant historical reference, and it suggests that something bad will happen based on nothing. you would be better off to just not type anything next time if you have nothing to say.

when in Rome, do as the Romans do......

Well that at least adds to the conversation because it has meaning Cheesy Still, it is sad watching this subforum turn into a steaming pile of crap posts. Maybe it's time to kick some roman ass!

31st has come and gone. nothing happened. this thread is history. (good call)

- 'all roads lead to Rome.'
legendary
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Borsche
Well that at least adds to the conversation because it has meaning Cheesy Still, it is sad watching this subforum turn into a steaming pile of crap posts. Maybe it's time to kick some roman ass!

Yeah, what we need is some gems like this: Bitcoin @ $1050

I have now entered at top of market and done quite well, although am losing now and selling at lower prices than I paid to limit damage.
Oh man I considered you to be smarter than that. You just never sell bitcoin cheaper than you bought it, because every dip is a temporary retrace. Your panic mode for bitcoin should mean "stop buying" and then when you think it stopped falling you start buying again. Any other way - and you are just robbing yourself. Can't stop you, of course, but sad to see.

lol.


You even bolded it but still don't understand? Sad, so sad. You sold lower, bought higher, sold lower again, inverse of an amazing trader.
legendary
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Just wait until February 31st. Bitcoin will end on that day.

No. That's when the end starts. It will be finished on February 32nd
legendary
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Viva Ut Vivas
Just wait until February 31st. Bitcoin will end on that day.
hero member
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Believe what you want my friend.
But the Chinese want their money out of those exchanges before the 31st Smiley .

How does it feel to be dead wrong all the time?

Loved your January 31 doomsday article too.

Stop talking.
hero member
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Well that at least adds to the conversation because it has meaning Cheesy Still, it is sad watching this subforum turn into a steaming pile of crap posts. Maybe it's time to kick some roman ass!

Yeah, what we need is some gems like this: Bitcoin @ $1050

I have now entered at top of market and done quite well, although am losing now and selling at lower prices than I paid to limit damage.
Oh man I considered you to be smarter than that. You just never sell bitcoin cheaper than you bought it, because every dip is a temporary retrace. Your panic mode for bitcoin should mean "stop buying" and then when you think it stopped falling you start buying again. Any other way - and you are just robbing yourself. Can't stop you, of course, but sad to see.

lol.
legendary
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Borsche
Looks like nothing happened.

Rome wasn't built in a day.....

.....it wasn't destroyed in a day either.

yeah but on 31st of january, which is in the topic of this thread, nothing happened, so your comment is a quintessence of stupid - it does not contradict the original post, it adds a useless and irrelevant historical reference, and it suggests that something bad will happen based on nothing. you would be better off to just not type anything next time if you have nothing to say.

when in Rome, do as the Romans do......

Well that at least adds to the conversation because it has meaning Cheesy Still, it is sad watching this subforum turn into a steaming pile of crap posts. Maybe it's time to kick some roman ass!
legendary
Activity: 924
Merit: 1001
Looks like nothing happened.

Rome wasn't built in a day.....

.....it wasn't destroyed in a day either.

yeah but on 31st of january, which is in the topic of this thread, nothing happened, so your comment is a quintessence of stupid - it does not contradict the original post, it adds a useless and irrelevant historical reference, and it suggests that something bad will happen based on nothing. you would be better off to just not type anything next time if you have nothing to say.

when in Rome, do as the Romans do......
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1010
Borsche
Looks like nothing happened.

Rome wasn't built in a day.....

.....it wasn't destroyed in a day either.

yeah but on 31st of january, which is in the topic of this thread, nothing happened, so your comment is a quintessence of stupid - it does not contradict the original post, it adds a useless and irrelevant historical reference, and it suggests that something bad will happen based on nothing. you would be better off to just not type anything next time if you have nothing to say.
sr. member
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Undeadbitcoiner Will not DIE until 1BTC=50K
I think 31 is passed away and FEB is on the way
Nothing Happened and Nothing will happen
If anything is to be happen then Good Thing will be happen in VC and Crypto
full member
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Looks like nothing happened.

Rome wasn't built in a day.....

.....it wasn't destroyed in a day either.

And at this late date, either one is still a viable proposition.  Odd that.
hero member
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Looks like nothing happened.

Rome wasn't built in a day.....

.....it wasn't destroyed in a day either.
hero member
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Looks like nothing happened.
full member
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yeah don't worry guys, china is a totally democratic country. your bitcoin investment are totally safe.
the Huobi owner will be given a medal of honor by the chinese government for circumventing their rules.


legendary
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Marketing manager - GO MP
The bitcoin community thinks only payment processors, not banks are affected. But that's not the only interpretation.

http://imgur.com/c6NANbM (screenshot of live tweet)

http://coinchomp.com/2014/01/26/live-blog-north-american-bitcoin-conference-day-2/

http://www.linkedin.com/in/malcolmcasselle (profile of speaker at Miami bitcoin conference 1/26/14)

this is happening live at the Miami bitcoin conference. 

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“They also said that Banks could not perform withdraws for the purpose of Bitcoin purchases, [...] that sent a chill through the bitcoin ecosystem”.

is that referring to withdrawals for bitcoin purchases at exchanges or something else?  however, it's already explicitly stated that you can not price things in bitcoin.  im starting to think this is referring to exchanges.

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Malcom Casselle: “… China made it illegal to price things in Bitcoin… ”


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Malcom: “So that’s the current state in china – you’re not allowed to use 3rd party payment provider, you’re not allowed to deposit money into your Bank account for Bitcoin.”

member
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RUMOR, but should be easy to confirm/deny:  A lot of banking services in PRC are very limited or completely unavailable until 2/7.

If true, I wouldn't expect much action at all out of China until 2d week of Feb.


Strange thing is Zerohedge confirmed the rumor was FALSE, however Huobi still say on their website that withdrawals and deposits will not be processed during this time

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-01-26/no-there-no-stoppage-cash-transfers-china

http://www.huobi.com/news/index.php?a=show_notice&id=46

http://www.huobi.com/news/index.php?a=show_notice&id=66

Actually, as I read it, the rumor I reported is true.  The false rumor is quite a bit more ambitious in its scope.  The true part is that holiday schedules curtail banking services through the 7th.

Hmmmm...I don't know what to believe! Smiley  I think you are right, I think the Zerohedge report was specifically referring to Citibank.   

Update: Looks like Forbes took down the original article!

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonchang/2014/01/26/china-halts-bank-cash-transfers-2/
legendary
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I created my own private alt coin and moved all of my bitcoins into there because of how low Bitcoin will drop on January 31st.

I have also burned down my house. Just in case.

lol gimme some of those alt coins!! I dont care how much they are I need just to dump all my BTC!!
member
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RUMOR, but should be easy to confirm/deny:  A lot of banking services in PRC are very limited or completely unavailable until 2/7.

If true, I wouldn't expect much action at all out of China until 2d week of Feb.


Strange thing is Zerohedge confirmed the rumor was FALSE, however Huobi still say on their website that withdrawals and deposits will not be processed during this time

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-01-26/no-there-no-stoppage-cash-transfers-china

http://www.huobi.com/news/index.php?a=show_notice&id=46

http://www.huobi.com/news/index.php?a=show_notice&id=66

Actually, as I read it, the rumor I reported is true.  The false rumor is quite a bit more ambitious in its scope.  The true part is that holiday schedules curtail banking services through the 7th.

Hmmmm...I don't know what to believe! Smiley  I think you are right, I think the Zerohedge report was specifically referring to Citibank.   
member
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you are rite, Third party processing already shut down and that effect happened for few days and now its back

I don't understand what you are trying to say here
legendary
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Viva Ut Vivas
I created my own private alt coin and moved all of my bitcoins into there because of how low Bitcoin will drop on January 31st.

I have also burned down my house. Just in case.
legendary
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Sine secretum non libertas
RUMOR, but should be easy to confirm/deny:  A lot of banking services in PRC are very limited or completely unavailable until 2/7.

If true, I wouldn't expect much action at all out of China until 2d week of Feb.


Strange thing is Zerohedge confirmed the rumor was FALSE, however Huobi still say on their website that withdrawals and deposits will not be processed during this time

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-01-26/no-there-no-stoppage-cash-transfers-china

http://www.huobi.com/news/index.php?a=show_notice&id=46

http://www.huobi.com/news/index.php?a=show_notice&id=66

Actually, as I read it, the rumor I reported is true.  The false rumor is quite a bit more ambitious in its scope.  The true part is that holiday schedules curtail banking services through the 7th.
sr. member
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Undeadbitcoiner Will not DIE until 1BTC=50K
Yes Nothing is goingh to happen,
I think one thing that needs to be clarified here is what the 31st relates to. 

On December 16, the Chinese government, through a deputy director of the PBOC, unofficially met and  ordered 10 third-party payment providers of virtual currencies among them the biggest, Alipay, to stop providing clearing services to the Bitcoin exchanges with a time limit of 31st January 2014.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/bitcoin-price-halves-china-clampdown-085816934.html

However, instead of waiting until the 31st of January, 3rd party payment processors terminated services effective immediately.  As of right now, depositing and withdrawing funds from Chinese exchanges is not done through 3rd party payment providers. This is why, as the OP states, the 31st is pretty much irrelevant at this point

However, Huobi and OK Coin are using their corporate bank accounts to process deposits/withdrawals.  Some (including myself) argue that this is against the PBOC's new regulations on Bitcoin, which state that:

"financial institutions and payment institutions are not allowed to use bitcoin...or directly or indirectly provide customers with other services related to bitcoin"

and also states banks

"may not act as a central counterparty in Bitcoin trading"

In my opinion, Huobi (and OK Coin) are operating outside of the PBOC's bitcoin regulations (and I argue are not adhering to many more regulations) and are at risk of being shut down at anytime. However, this has nothing to do with January 31st. 
you are rite, Third party processing already shut down and that effect happened for few days and now its back, so nothing os going to happen  Huh nothing more to happen from china, if anything happens then will happen some positive.
Good Luck
member
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RUMOR, but should be easy to confirm/deny:  A lot of banking services in PRC are very limited or completely unavailable until 2/7.

If true, I wouldn't expect much action at all out of China until 2d week of Feb.


Strange thing is Zerohedge confirmed the rumor was FALSE, however Huobi still say on their website that withdrawals and deposits will not be processed during this time

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-01-26/no-there-no-stoppage-cash-transfers-china

http://www.huobi.com/news/index.php?a=show_notice&id=46

http://www.huobi.com/news/index.php?a=show_notice&id=66
full member
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if they are shut down it means end of bitcoin

LoL, your delusional
member
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if they are shut down it means end of bitcoin

They will be shut down.  And it won't mean the end of bitcoin.  Huobi is a cesspool of bots and price manipulation, driving each of the mini rallies and crashes over the past month.  Once they are shut down, there will be an immediate but short term negative effect on the price.  But we are then free of these fly by night Chinese exchanges and it will be smooth sailing for bitcoin.
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I think it's possible that the owner/operators of those exchanges are influential party members or more likely related to influential party members.  The payment processor issue was more about favoritism against Bobby Lee (the outsider) than anything else. It's also very possible that the ban will drive renmimbi/yuan to the exchanges as people thing this may be their last chance to buy a rapidly appreciating asset that allows them to evade capital controls.

Many people agree, however, here are my thoughts on that.  Bobby Lee was the one who broke the news about the 31st to CoinDesk.  

http://www.coindesk.com/china-bans-payment-companies-working-bitcoin-exchanges-sources-claim/

Bobby Lee had sources inside the PBOC meeting with 3rd party payment providers who advised him of the meeting.  I believe Bobby Lee is as connected as anyone, and none of this has to do with any "Guanxi".  

So why has Bobby Lee and BTC China given up the throne to Huobi?  Because Huobi is operating outside of the law, and I would argue Bobby Lee actually has more sway with regulators, and knows his time is up.  In a Wired.com interview, Lee states that BTC China isn’t thinking about the direct payment route because they would first need to be licensed as a payment processor in order to send and receive funds to and from clients and the company's corporate bank account.

http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2014/01/huobi/
legendary
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Sine secretum non libertas
RUMOR, but should be easy to confirm/deny:  A lot of banking services in PRC are very limited or completely unavailable until 2/7.

If true, I wouldn't expect much action at all out of China until 2d week of Feb.
hero member
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if they are shut down it means end of bitcoin
member
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I think one thing that needs to be clarified here is what the 31st relates to. 

On December 16, the Chinese government, through a deputy director of the PBOC, unofficially met and  ordered 10 third-party payment providers of virtual currencies among them the biggest, Alipay, to stop providing clearing services to the Bitcoin exchanges with a time limit of 31st January 2014.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/bitcoin-price-halves-china-clampdown-085816934.html

However, instead of waiting until the 31st of January, 3rd party payment processors terminated services effective immediately.  As of right now, depositing and withdrawing funds from Chinese exchanges is not done through 3rd party payment providers. This is why, as the OP states, the 31st is pretty much irrelevant at this point

However, Huobi and OK Coin are using their corporate bank accounts to process deposits/withdrawals.  Some (including myself) argue that this is against the PBOC's new regulations on Bitcoin, which state that:

"financial institutions and payment institutions are not allowed to use bitcoin...or directly or indirectly provide customers with other services related to bitcoin"

and also states banks

"may not act as a central counterparty in Bitcoin trading"

In my opinion, Huobi (and OK Coin) are operating outside of the PBOC's bitcoin regulations (and I argue are not adhering to many more regulations) and are at risk of being shut down at anytime. However, this has nothing to do with January 31st. 
legendary
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Hide your women
Do you want to know why the market is really in limbo? It is about when the Chinese government is going to shut down Huobi's bank account and arrest the owner. This has nothing to do with the 31st. It is a completely unpredictable event.

Absolutely right on.  The only thing left now is Huobi (and to a lesser extent OK Coin), both of whom are at risk of being shut down at anytime.  But this has nothing to do with the 31st of January.

I think it's possible that the owner/operators of those exchanges are influential party members or more likely related to influential party members.  The payment processor issue was more about favoritism against Bobby Lee (the outsider) than anything else. It's also very possible that the ban will drive renmimbi/yuan to the exchanges as people thing this may be their last chance to buy a rapidly appreciating asset that allows them to evade capital controls.
legendary
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Degenerate bull hatter & Bitcoin monotheist
OP is right.  However he neglected to mention what will happen on 1 Feb after the deadline for withdrawal has expired.  
hero member
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Believe what you want my friend.
But the Chinese want their money out of those exchanges before the 31st Smiley .
member
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Do you want to know why the market is really in limbo? It is about when the Chinese government is going to shut down Huobi's bank account and arrest the owner. This has nothing to do with the 31st. It is a completely unpredictable event.

Absolutely right on.  The only thing left now is Huobi (and to a lesser extent OK Coin), both of whom are at risk of being shut down at anytime.  But this has nothing to do with the 31st of January.
member
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Are you sure about this??

I thought 3rd party processors could not deal with bitcoin anymore, so this is false?

Correct, but they already stopped. 
legendary
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Are you sure about this??

I thought 3rd party processors could not deal with bitcoin anymore, so this is false?
hero member
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Web Developer
Everyone listen to this guy, no more speculating in the speculation forum.
hero member
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This whole 'china 31st' thing seems like one of those troll box myths that only noobs fall for. In reality, nothing happens on the 31st that hasn't already happened.
-the Chinese exchanges don't close
-the bank transfer to huobi doesn't disappear
-the whales do not start dumping tons of coins
-the whales don't start buying tons of coins
-the price doesn't go up
-the price doesn't go down
-nothing happens

The whales who move the price aren't going to suddenly change their positions, because they already know the truth: the 31st deadline only applies to third party payment processors, and all the third party processors have ALREADY CLOSED, while bank transfers are unaffected. The whales are intelligent people who have done their due diligence and already know this. People aren't going to suddenly think "wow omg it didn't crash buy buy buy", because anyone with half a brain ALREADY KNEW what was going to happen. It is already PRICED IN.

So don't be surprised when during the first week of February NOTHING happens and the consolidation pattern continues. And please stop saying you're certain that a rally will occur due to Jan 31st, because that is bogus.

Do you want to know why the market is really in limbo? It is about when the Chinese government is going to shut down Huobi's bank account and arrest the owner. This has nothing to do with the 31st. It is a completely unpredictable event.
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