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Thank you for the feedback.
There are quite a few mixers that use Cloudflare without any problems. We also have an onion link that can be used. However, we will explore the issue to improve user experience.
Did you read the link i posted? When i wrote the post i linked to (about a year and a half ago), i posted this exact template (mind you, it is not edited for this post, i quoted it exactly as i wrote it 1,5 years ago:
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In my experience dealing with new mixer operators, a discussion between the mixing operator and myself usually falls in this pattern:
- Mixing owner: Look what a nice mixer i have, look at the nice pictures, look at all the bells and wistles, look at the fancy colors.... I even have moving images to keep you entertained while using my perfect service that is 100% anonymous in every way imaginable!
- Me: hey OP, your mixer uses cloudflare's SSL certificates as a MITM and google analytics
- Mixing owner: everybody is doing it, just have a look at our competitors
- Me: It's not because everybody else is wrong, you have to be too
- Mixing owner: some other lame excuse
- Me: That's a lame excuse (but worded politely)
- Mixing owner: we have a hidden service on tor
- Me: most users wouldn't even know you're using cloudflare, so they won't switch to the tor mirror (if they even know how to do this)
- Mixing owner: I'll put it on my todo list (under the section: "things to do when hell freezes over")
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We're currently @ step 4 (combined with step 7)
Step 1: you made a post detailing all bells and whistles (
here)
Step 2: i told you you were using cloudflare, and that's not a good idear (
here)
Step 3: you said everybody else was doing it aswell (
here)
And here is step 4:
It's not because everybody else is making a huuuuuuuuuuuuge mistake, you have to do the same....
I'll add step 8 aswell (since you combined step 3 with step 7)
most users wouldn't even know you're using cloudflare, so they won't switch to the tor mirror (if they even know how to do this)
(source: above)
Please, break the prophecy and read the link i posted instead of giving some excuse
Using cloudflare for a mixing service is NEVER ok... Really... I know a lot of your competitors do the same, but in my opinion, those competitors should NOT be called mixers!!!
It DOES NOT matter how many nice features your mixer has, you messed up the foundation you're building on!!! You are sharing EVERY byte exchanged between your site and your client in an UNENCRYPTED form with a US based company... From this point on, it does not matter if you offer a letter of guarantee, if you clear your logs, if you ordered bulletproof hosting... It simply does not... You are sharing all your client's data with a US based company does DOES 100% certain stores it in an unencrypted form in a US based datacenter.
