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April 05, 2014, 12:00:32 AM
#81
看好二代币,看好NXT、NEM

2代币的太多了。NEM、infc、NAS、NDC······还有很多,连产品都没出就开始圈钱了,还是不要抱太多的希望啊。
毕竟没有创新的东西是不会长久的。我关注的NEM 一个多月都在弄名单,一个破名单弄了一个月还没有弄好,钱圈了几十万。
从社区看到的情况,似乎比较乐观。首先团队精神面貌不错,对虚拟货币理解很深,其次社区也红火,近几日在讨论钱包、客户端事情,看上去挺靠谱的。https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=426303.5200
投了不少IPO,现在看NEM最靠谱 Wink
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April 04, 2014, 10:19:45 PM
#80
不着急,慢慢来,开发出有价值的功能才是对的,价格的可以慢慢体现。
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April 01, 2014, 10:00:59 PM
#79
nxt绝对是天才的创作 。但是他的发行机制制约了他的发展,只能等技术突破,价格突破了
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April 01, 2014, 09:57:51 PM
#78
等待二代币的春天 等待nxt崛起
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April 01, 2014, 08:44:44 PM
#77
不容易啊 ,加油!!期待更好的作品。
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March 31, 2014, 03:43:11 AM
#76
不容易啊 ,加油!!
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March 31, 2014, 02:57:34 AM
#75
楼主辛苦,顶起。 Cheesy
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March 31, 2014, 02:05:21 AM
#74
network topography is not a quantitative quality. the idea that we can define its qualities in an objectively valid way presupposes that we have a better solution to exactly the sorts of problems that proof of stake blockchains were invented to solve in the first place.

 Do you understand this?

You can go to ask the NXt development team, they may be able to answer you. Grin
You are welcome

What Is Transparent Forging In Nextcoin (NXT)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfFZBuyXI-s

I read this little video, this is a very good small video, explained very clearly, this is very interesting, I like.
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March 31, 2014, 01:36:34 AM
#73
1. Transactions can be sent directly to the miner who will mine the next block (if he decides to reveal his location on the Internet), thus saving traffic and coming much closer to VISA/MasterCard processing volumes.

2. Blocks can be generated in advance and sent to most of the miners before they become valid (timestamp validation), thus greatly reducing rate of orphaned blocks.

3. Due to ability to predict timestamps of future blocks (rate of blocks) it becomes possible to set appropriate fees to assure quick confirmations for important transactions (without paying too much for inclusion into a block).

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March 31, 2014, 01:25:26 AM
#72
DGEX.com - NXT / BTC Exchange (thread)
BTER.com - Bitcoin and Crypto-currency Exchange Platform
Vircurex.com - Exchange and Trading Platform
Cryptsy.com
PeerCover.com - NXT Ripple Gateway How-to trade Nxt on Ripple
Poloniex.com - NXT / BTC / LTC / NMC / XPM Cryptocurrency Exchange (thread)
Nxt-e.com - Professional NXT Bitcoin Litecoin Exchange Market
Bittrex.com - The Next Generation Crypto-Exchange
NxtBtc.com - NXT / BTC Exchange (No Javascript Required)
UpBit.org - Crypto Exchange
CryptoKopen.eu - Buy Nxt with Skrill
BitcoiNxt.net - NXT / EUR Exchange
LiteBit.eu - NXT / EUR Exchange
QuickNXT.com - Nxt Asset Gateway (Under Development)

Who use this several trading site? Which one is the best?

DGEX.com - NXT / BTC Exchange (thread)
BTER.com - Bitcoin and Crypto-currency Exchange Platform

Nxt-e.com - Professional NXT Bitcoin Litecoin Exchange Market
Bittrex.com - The Next Generation Crypto-Exchange
NxtBtc.com - NXT / BTC Exchange (No Javascript Required)
UpBit.org - Crypto Exchange

Just a suggestion
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March 31, 2014, 01:23:44 AM
#71
network topography is not a quantitative quality. the idea that we can define its qualities in an objectively valid way presupposes that we have a better solution to exactly the sorts of problems that proof of stake blockchains were invented to solve in the first place.

 Do you understand this?

You can go to ask the NXt development team, they may be able to answer you. Grin
You are welcome

What Is Transparent Forging In Nextcoin (NXT)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfFZBuyXI-s
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March 31, 2014, 01:19:03 AM
#70
I looked several, but now focuses on what you AE ah, to the center of the trading platform is the key.
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March 31, 2014, 12:45:49 AM
#69
Every time I get a bit down or concerned about the future of this project, I just take a look at this thread and now to the other forum and my confidence restores immediately.

This is a truly great project, great community and we are surely going places! It will just take some time.

Thanks guys!

PS:form NXT project
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March 31, 2014, 12:44:06 AM
#68
NXT必须要很多很多人使用才行,要没一个块都有交易费,那才能真正吸引人开启客户端挖矿。

Open client benefits are too low, no one is willing to open the client. This is the problem, slowly, no one really use.

就是啊,说真的我一般都几天不开一次客户端,觉得没有钱包方便。每次都要去找密码

NXt is very powerful.Wait for the powerful AE. 
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March 31, 2014, 12:42:49 AM
#67
DGEX.com - NXT / BTC Exchange (thread)
BTER.com - Bitcoin and Crypto-currency Exchange Platform
Vircurex.com - Exchange and Trading Platform
Cryptsy.com
PeerCover.com - NXT Ripple Gateway How-to trade Nxt on Ripple
Poloniex.com - NXT / BTC / LTC / NMC / XPM Cryptocurrency Exchange (thread)
Nxt-e.com - Professional NXT Bitcoin Litecoin Exchange Market
Bittrex.com - The Next Generation Crypto-Exchange
NxtBtc.com - NXT / BTC Exchange (No Javascript Required)
UpBit.org - Crypto Exchange
CryptoKopen.eu - Buy Nxt with Skrill
BitcoiNxt.net - NXT / EUR Exchange
LiteBit.eu - NXT / EUR Exchange
QuickNXT.com - Nxt Asset Gateway (Under Development)

Who use this several trading site? Which one is the best?

DGEX.com - NXT / BTC Exchange (thread)
BTER.com - Bitcoin and Crypto-currency Exchange Platform
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March 29, 2014, 09:43:14 AM
#65
What is so unique about Nxt?

Nxt is the first cryptocurrency coded from scratch using java. It is not a fork of Bitcoin or any other altcoin.
Nxt is a 100% PoS currency with a transparent mining algo that protects against government & wealthy entity
Nxt's transparent mining algo brings it much closer to achieving VISA/MasterCard processing volumes.
Nxt promises advanced features including Alias System (implemented),  Transparent Forging (being phased in), P2P Exchange (coming soon), Arbitrary Messaging, Instant Transactions with guaranteed confirmation, Voting, Two-Phase Payment, Distributed Storage, Mixing Service, Multisig, Smart Contracts, etc...
Nxt compared to Bitcoin, Litecoin, PeerCoin, Quarkcoin
Nxt does not have "coin" in its name 

from the Forum.
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March 29, 2014, 12:51:39 AM
#64
What does this transparency mean? It means that anyone can predict (with very high probability) who and when will generate next block(s). And this gives us superior advantages:

1. Transactions can be sent directly to the miner who will mine the next block (if he decides to reveal his location on the Internet), thus saving traffic and coming much closer to VISA/MasterCard processing volumes.

2. Blocks can be generated in advance and sent to most of the miners before they become valid (timestamp validation), thus greatly reducing rate of orphaned blocks.

3. Due to ability to predict timestamps of future blocks (rate of blocks) it becomes possible to set appropriate fees to assure quick confirmations for important transactions (without paying too much for inclusion into a block).

Supplementation of NXT knowledge. Grin

The drawbacks of BTC: 51% attack.
NXT can resist the 90% attack, how can this be?
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March 29, 2014, 12:39:51 AM
#63
What does this transparency mean? It means that anyone can predict (with very high probability) who and when will generate next block(s). And this gives us superior advantages:

1. Transactions can be sent directly to the miner who will mine the next block (if he decides to reveal his location on the Internet), thus saving traffic and coming much closer to VISA/MasterCard processing volumes.

2. Blocks can be generated in advance and sent to most of the miners before they become valid (timestamp validation), thus greatly reducing rate of orphaned blocks.

3. Due to ability to predict timestamps of future blocks (rate of blocks) it becomes possible to set appropriate fees to assure quick confirmations for important transactions (without paying too much for inclusion into a block).

Supplementation of NXT knowledge. Grin
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March 28, 2014, 10:29:25 PM
#62
network topography is not a quantitative quality. the idea that we can define its qualities in an objectively valid way presupposes that we have a better solution to exactly the sorts of problems that proof of stake blockchains were invented to solve in the first place.

 Do you understand this?

You can go to ask the NXt development team, they may be able to answer you. Grin
You are welcome
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March 28, 2014, 09:35:35 PM
#61
看好二代币,看好NXT、NEM

2代币的太多了。NEM、infc、NAS、NDC······还有很多,连产品都没出就开始圈钱了,还是不要抱太多的希望啊。
毕竟没有创新的东西是不会长久的。我关注的NEM 一个多月都在弄名单,一个破名单弄了一个月还没有弄好,钱圈了几十万。
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March 28, 2014, 09:31:00 PM
#60
NXT必须要很多很多人使用才行,要没一个块都有交易费,那才能真正吸引人开启客户端挖矿。

我看到好几个客户端的版本也,也不知道那个将会成为最后的选择,最近的虚拟币不景气,加上几个山寨币太套钱,市场太乱了,不知道会不会有大的影响。
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March 28, 2014, 09:28:06 PM
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March 28, 2014, 09:25:34 PM
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March 28, 2014, 09:17:44 PM
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March 28, 2014, 09:12:48 PM
#56
Now NXT really also can use the alias system bar, or very convenient, I through the alias directly to find my account, query transaction records, don't have to remember long digital, but other features I haven't tried.

I tried the test version of the AE, customer experience is very good. Try asset trading system, don't understand, someone tried to use the AE system, a few days out, good looking.
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March 28, 2014, 09:07:00 PM
#55
Now NXT really also can use the alias system bar, or very convenient, I through the alias directly to find my account, query transaction records, don't have to remember long digital, but other features I haven't tried.
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March 28, 2014, 09:04:08 PM
#54
我注册了几个NXT的别名,是不是4月份NXT的AE客户端出了就能够交易了,英文贴实在看的头晕,大神知道的回答下!!谢谢。

我也有几个NXT别名,目测就算开始可以交易,别名也不会一下就很值钱。

people who Application and buy the domain name that  never thought can sell so much money. Grin Grin

I also registered 10 aliases, ready to save 5 years.
5 years later, NXt is still, so alias should be very valuable.
Oh, I hope it is true.
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March 28, 2014, 08:58:04 PM
#53
比特币的分布情况
28.9%的权益由0.005%的持有人持有
21.5%的权益由0.087%的持有人持有:17.4X
24.8%的权益由0.98%的持有人持有:196X
20.7%的权益由98.928%权益:19786X

说NXT不公平的都要看看这个,世界上没有绝对的公平,只有相对的功能。
               
               a world with money is not perfect

a world with money is not perfect !No money is nothing to do.
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March 28, 2014, 08:54:11 PM
#52
昨天我又把NXT的白皮书看了一遍,NXT的理想很好,未来充满希望。帖子里NXT强调更多的是技术,强调的是功能,毫无疑问,NXT团队和社区的技术过硬,开发团队也很多,进展也很快,但是,我觉得在宣传方面也是不能缺少的,毕竟这是一个大的虚拟币市场,应用类的开发一直都是谁先占有市场,谁将得到发展,技术是开源的总会被模仿和复制,现在类NXT的虚拟币开发也很多,难保未来出现被超越,希望在AE出来后,团队和社区注重宣传,使NXT走出社区,走向世界。

Attention to dogecoin,You'll find out publicity when necessary, NXT should probably do that.
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March 28, 2014, 08:28:45 PM
#51
昨天我又把NXT的白皮书看了一遍,NXT的理想很好,未来充满希望。帖子里NXT强调更多的是技术,强调的是功能,毫无疑问,NXT团队和社区的技术过硬,开发团队也很多,进展也很快,但是,我觉得在宣传方面也是不能缺少的,毕竟这是一个大的虚拟币市场,应用类的开发一直都是谁先占有市场,谁将得到发展,技术是开源的总会被模仿和复制,现在类NXT的虚拟币开发也很多,难保未来出现被超越,希望在AE出来后,团队和社区注重宣传,使NXT走出社区,走向世界。
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March 28, 2014, 08:10:04 PM
#50
DGEX.com - NXT / BTC Exchange (thread)
BTER.com - Bitcoin and Crypto-currency Exchange Platform
Vircurex.com - Exchange and Trading Platform
Cryptsy.com
PeerCover.com - NXT Ripple Gateway How-to trade Nxt on Ripple
Poloniex.com - NXT / BTC / LTC / NMC / XPM Cryptocurrency Exchange (thread)
Nxt-e.com - Professional NXT Bitcoin Litecoin Exchange Market
Bittrex.com - The Next Generation Crypto-Exchange
NxtBtc.com - NXT / BTC Exchange (No Javascript Required)
UpBit.org - Crypto Exchange
CryptoKopen.eu - Buy Nxt with Skrill
BitcoiNxt.net - NXT / EUR Exchange
LiteBit.eu - NXT / EUR Exchange
QuickNXT.com - Nxt Asset Gateway (Under Development)

Who use this several trading site? Which one is the best?

BTER.com - Bitcoin and Crypto-currency Exchange Platform
这个地方不错,充值和体现都很及时。
这个平台有点黑 关门打狗 大家不要去

 Huh Which platform I should go to?

www.bter.com is a good choice, I haven't had a problem in this platform. Just a proposal.
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March 28, 2014, 10:48:17 AM
#49
再持有NXT一年,如果还没有起色,可能要考虑走人了。实在是没有太多时间等待啊。
一年要多大耐心

差不多,看成扔掉了。嘻嘻 Grin Grin
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March 28, 2014, 10:44:12 AM
#48
再持有NXT一年,如果还没有起色,可能要考虑走人了。实在是没有太多时间等待啊。
一年要多大耐心
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March 28, 2014, 10:43:13 AM
#47
I still don't understand what is the distributed transaction of assets!
I think this is something new, creative, very great.
Who know the distributed transaction of assets?
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March 28, 2014, 10:36:20 AM
#46
DGEX.com - NXT / BTC Exchange (thread)
BTER.com - Bitcoin and Crypto-currency Exchange Platform
Vircurex.com - Exchange and Trading Platform
Cryptsy.com
PeerCover.com - NXT Ripple Gateway How-to trade Nxt on Ripple
Poloniex.com - NXT / BTC / LTC / NMC / XPM Cryptocurrency Exchange (thread)
Nxt-e.com - Professional NXT Bitcoin Litecoin Exchange Market
Bittrex.com - The Next Generation Crypto-Exchange
NxtBtc.com - NXT / BTC Exchange (No Javascript Required)
UpBit.org - Crypto Exchange
CryptoKopen.eu - Buy Nxt with Skrill
BitcoiNxt.net - NXT / EUR Exchange
LiteBit.eu - NXT / EUR Exchange
QuickNXT.com - Nxt Asset Gateway (Under Development)

Who use this several trading site? Which one is the best?

BTER.com - Bitcoin and Crypto-currency Exchange Platform
这个地方不错,充值和体现都很及时。
这个平台有点黑 关门打狗 大家不要去

 Huh Which platform I should go to?
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March 28, 2014, 10:31:02 AM
#45
NXT是一个骗局,因为所有的NXT都被预挖了?

首先,值得注意的是,NXT是100%股权证明(Proof-of-Stake,POS)的货币。实现这种形式货币的唯一方法是在起源块中发行所有 的货币。如果不这样做,就需要实施某种形式工作证明(Proof-of-Work,PoW),以防止网络中的“假”股权的攻击。由于NXT的创造者想要一 个100%的PoS平台,创造者抛弃了PoW和PoS混合的方案。

其次,“预挖”这个词是不恰当的,因为NXT从来就没有被开采过。最初的股权持有者是利用比特币对NXT项目的投资而获得相应的股权,按股 权多少分配了起源块中的十亿NXT。最初的股权持有者将捐赠来分发NXT,并利用NXT来做出与NXT有关的“悬赏”(软件,文档,翻译,支持等),这由 整个社区完成。 即使是NXT的创造者( [ https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3253022 # msg3253022 BCNxt ] )一开始也做出了一个比特币的投资。没有从虚无中产生的货币! 投资,然后得到回报,这是一个自然的因果关系。

其三,创作的起源块是完全公开的,所有NXT的原始账号和分配给他们的数额是可见的:见://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=303898.msg3652710#msg3652710

NXT no deception!
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March 28, 2014, 10:21:10 AM
#44
比特币的分布情况
28.9%的权益由0.005%的持有人持有
21.5%的权益由0.087%的持有人持有:17.4X
24.8%的权益由0.98%的持有人持有:196X
20.7%的权益由98.928%权益:19786X

说NXT不公平的都要看看这个,世界上没有绝对的公平,只有相对的功能。
               
               a world with money is not perfect
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March 28, 2014, 10:17:55 AM
#43
NXT必须要很多很多人使用才行,要没一个块都有交易费,那才能真正吸引人开启客户端挖矿。

Open client benefits are too low, no one is willing to open the client. This is the problem, slowly, no one really use.

就是啊,说真的我一般都几天不开一次客户端,觉得没有钱包方便。每次都要去找密码

NXt is very powerful.Wait for the powerful AE. Grin Grin
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March 28, 2014, 10:15:05 AM
#42
NXT必须要很多很多人使用才行,要没一个块都有交易费,那才能真正吸引人开启客户端挖矿。

Open client benefits are too low, no one is willing to open the client. This is the problem, slowly, no one really use.

就是啊,说真的我一般都几天不开一次客户端,觉得没有钱包方便。每次都要去找密码
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March 28, 2014, 10:13:58 AM
#41
DGEX.com - NXT / BTC Exchange (thread)
BTER.com - Bitcoin and Crypto-currency Exchange Platform
Vircurex.com - Exchange and Trading Platform
Cryptsy.com
PeerCover.com - NXT Ripple Gateway How-to trade Nxt on Ripple
Poloniex.com - NXT / BTC / LTC / NMC / XPM Cryptocurrency Exchange (thread)
Nxt-e.com - Professional NXT Bitcoin Litecoin Exchange Market
Bittrex.com - The Next Generation Crypto-Exchange
NxtBtc.com - NXT / BTC Exchange (No Javascript Required)
UpBit.org - Crypto Exchange
CryptoKopen.eu - Buy Nxt with Skrill
BitcoiNxt.net - NXT / EUR Exchange
LiteBit.eu - NXT / EUR Exchange
QuickNXT.com - Nxt Asset Gateway (Under Development)

Who use this several trading site? Which one is the best?

BTER.com - Bitcoin and Crypto-currency Exchange Platform
这个地方不错,充值和体现都很及时。
这个平台有点黑 关门打狗 大家不要去
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March 28, 2014, 10:11:36 AM
#40
当然,我也是觉得NXT本身就是一个创举,主要是没有太多时间来关注发展的进程,反而比较关心一时的价格了,看来以后得改变一下才行了。

热闹的是英文论坛 可能 中国的 比较少 参与。中国人 就是炒作。
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March 28, 2014, 10:09:42 AM
#39
Every time I get a bit down or concerned about the future of this project, I just take a look at this thread and now to the other forum and my confidence restores immediately.

This is a truly great project, great community and we are surely going places! It will just take some time.

Thanks guys!

PS:form NXT project

This is a truly great project, great community and we are surely going places! It will just take some time.
Totally agree.

NXT development should rely on the efforts of everyone!!
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March 28, 2014, 10:08:48 AM
#38
当然,我也是觉得NXT本身就是一个创举,主要是没有太多时间来关注发展的进程,反而比较关心一时的价格了,看来以后得改变一下才行了。
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March 28, 2014, 10:07:29 AM
#37
NXT必须要很多很多人使用才行,要没一个块都有交易费,那才能真正吸引人开启客户端挖矿。

Open client benefits are too low, no one is willing to open the client. This is the problem, slowly, no one really use.
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March 28, 2014, 10:01:40 AM
#36
Every time I get a bit down or concerned about the future of this project, I just take a look at this thread and now to the other forum and my confidence restores immediately.

This is a truly great project, great community and we are surely going places! It will just take some time.

Thanks guys!

PS:form NXT project

This is a truly great project, great community and we are surely going places! It will just take some time.
Totally agree.
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March 28, 2014, 09:58:06 AM
#35
DGEX.com - NXT / BTC Exchange (thread)
BTER.com - Bitcoin and Crypto-currency Exchange Platform
Vircurex.com - Exchange and Trading Platform
Cryptsy.com
PeerCover.com - NXT Ripple Gateway How-to trade Nxt on Ripple
Poloniex.com - NXT / BTC / LTC / NMC / XPM Cryptocurrency Exchange (thread)
Nxt-e.com - Professional NXT Bitcoin Litecoin Exchange Market
Bittrex.com - The Next Generation Crypto-Exchange
NxtBtc.com - NXT / BTC Exchange (No Javascript Required)
UpBit.org - Crypto Exchange
CryptoKopen.eu - Buy Nxt with Skrill
BitcoiNxt.net - NXT / EUR Exchange
LiteBit.eu - NXT / EUR Exchange
QuickNXT.com - Nxt Asset Gateway (Under Development)

Who use this several trading site? Which one is the best?

BTER.com - Bitcoin and Crypto-currency Exchange Platform
这个地方不错,充值和体现都很及时。
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March 28, 2014, 09:56:13 AM
#34
确实,可能是我太急躁了一点。应该沉下心来,任何事物的发展都应该有一个过程。
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March 28, 2014, 09:55:39 AM
#33
DGEX.com - NXT / BTC Exchange (thread)
BTER.com - Bitcoin and Crypto-currency Exchange Platform
Vircurex.com - Exchange and Trading Platform
Cryptsy.com
PeerCover.com - NXT Ripple Gateway How-to trade Nxt on Ripple
Poloniex.com - NXT / BTC / LTC / NMC / XPM Cryptocurrency Exchange (thread)
Nxt-e.com - Professional NXT Bitcoin Litecoin Exchange Market
Bittrex.com - The Next Generation Crypto-Exchange
NxtBtc.com - NXT / BTC Exchange (No Javascript Required)
UpBit.org - Crypto Exchange
CryptoKopen.eu - Buy Nxt with Skrill
BitcoiNxt.net - NXT / EUR Exchange
LiteBit.eu - NXT / EUR Exchange
QuickNXT.com - Nxt Asset Gateway (Under Development)

Who use this several trading site? Which one is the best?
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March 28, 2014, 09:48:55 AM
#32
再持有NXT一年,如果还没有起色,可能要考虑走人了。实在是没有太多时间等待啊。

Are you buy a lot? May one or two years.
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March 28, 2014, 09:47:03 AM
#31
network topography is not a quantitative quality. the idea that we can define its qualities in an objectively valid way presupposes that we have a better solution to exactly the sorts of problems that proof of stake blockchains were invented to solve in the first place.

 Do you understand this?
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March 28, 2014, 09:43:39 AM
#30
再持有NXT一年,如果还没有起色,可能要考虑走人了。实在是没有太多时间等待啊。
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March 28, 2014, 09:41:19 AM
#29
Every time I get a bit down or concerned about the future of this project, I just take a look at this thread and now to the other forum and my confidence restores immediately.

This is a truly great project, great community and we are surely going places! It will just take some time.

Thanks guys!

PS:form NXT project
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March 28, 2014, 09:32:01 AM
#28
NXT现在价格低迷,这也正常,出来不过几个月而已。看看BTC几年的发展历程就知道,NXT的发展并非一片坦途,后面价格涨涨落落是很平常的事情 Cheesy

但是要等个几年?真心没有这么多几年几年可等了啊。。。。。
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March 28, 2014, 09:30:11 AM
#27
XT现在价格低迷,这也正常,出来不过几个月而已。我已经买了很多存着、 哈哈~

我也存了好久了,不知道还要存多久,谁都不希望自己手里的东西越来越不值钱的。
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March 28, 2014, 09:27:24 AM
#26
AE马上出来 目测出来翻三倍

Up to 3 times, are you sure, I could go to $1. i am  nxter.

1美元?那就好了,作为NXTER,谁不希望手里的筹码值钱呢。
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March 28, 2014, 09:25:32 AM
#25
AE马上出来 目测出来翻三倍

Up to 3 times, are you sure, I could go to $1. i am  nxter.
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March 28, 2014, 09:23:36 AM
#24
AE马上出来 目测出来翻三倍

所有的一切都是希望,也有可能动都不动的。
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March 28, 2014, 09:23:06 AM
#23
我注册了几个NXT的别名,是不是4月份NXT的AE客户端出了就能够交易了,英文贴实在看的头晕,大神知道的回答下!!谢谢。

我也有几个NXT别名,目测就算开始可以交易,别名也不会一下就很值钱。

people who Application and buy the domain name that  never thought can sell so much money. Grin Grin
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March 28, 2014, 09:22:00 AM
#22
NXT必须要很多很多人使用才行,要没一个块都有交易费,那才能真正吸引人开启客户端挖矿。
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#21
AE马上出来 目测出来翻三倍
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March 28, 2014, 09:19:46 AM
#20
你们NXT挖矿效率怎么样?
我感觉客户端开启一个月毛都没有啊?

NXT的挖矿真的不怎么样!!没割几十w,一个星期都锻造不出来。
希望AE客户端出了能够产生多点交易费用。

不知道以后交易费会不会下调,不下调的话现在交易费太高了点,下调的话,本来就挖矿就不容易,如果运气好挖到了0.01NXT有毛用啊。。。。

好像以后会到0.01NXT,不然价格上来了,交易费就太贵了,不利于鼓励客户使用。
我现在都很少开客户端了,更本没收益!!!NXT路漫漫啊!
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March 28, 2014, 09:19:29 AM
#19
我注册了几个NXT的别名,是不是4月份NXT的AE客户端出了就能够交易了,英文贴实在看的头晕,大神知道的回答下!!谢谢。

我也有几个NXT别名,目测就算开始可以交易,别名也不会一下就很值钱。
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March 28, 2014, 09:17:52 AM
#18
问个问题,那些大股东什么时候把币出得差不多啊?
股东自身就是了解NXT的发展的,股东本身也是看好NXT,那么他们是惜售的。
我也知道啊,这就是一个矛盾体,不出货就没有人加入经来,现在股东一出货就会造成抛售恐慌。

等吧,当NXT发展成熟了,看到NXT的好,自然有人来,价格也会升,毕竟现在NXT连最重要的AE
都没出,4月3号,希望别跳票。

对于跳票,我都习惯了,BTS什么的,一次一次的跳票。只要最后能实际出东西出来就好了。
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March 28, 2014, 09:16:56 AM
#17
我注册了几个NXT的别名,是不是4月份NXT的AE客户端出了就能够交易了,英文贴实在看的头晕,大神知道的回答下!!谢谢。
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March 28, 2014, 09:15:10 AM
#16
你们NXT挖矿效率怎么样?
我感觉客户端开启一个月毛都没有啊?

NXT的挖矿真的不怎么样!!没割几十w,一个星期都锻造不出来。
希望AE客户端出了能够产生多点交易费用。

不知道以后交易费会不会下调,不下调的话现在交易费太高了点,下调的话,本来就挖矿就不容易,如果运气好挖到了0.01NXT有毛用啊。。。。
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问个问题,那些大股东什么时候把币出得差不多啊?
股东自身就是了解NXT的发展的,股东本身也是看好NXT,那么他们是惜售的。
我也知道啊,这就是一个矛盾体,不出货就没有人加入经来,现在股东一出货就会造成抛售恐慌。

等吧,当NXT发展成熟了,看到NXT的好,自然有人来,价格也会升,毕竟现在NXT连最重要的AE
都没出,4月3号,希望别跳票。
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March 28, 2014, 09:12:31 AM
#14
看好二代币,看好NXT、NEM
我也看好NXT,同时我也持有一部分PTS,等BTS中,可惜都存在一个问题,开发的进度都太慢了。
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#13
你们NXT挖矿效率怎么样?
我感觉客户端开启一个月毛都没有啊?

NXT的挖矿真的不怎么样!!没割几十w,一个星期都锻造不出来。
希望AE客户端出了能够产生多点交易费用。
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March 28, 2014, 09:09:49 AM
#12
问个问题,那些大股东什么时候把币出得差不多啊?
股东自身就是了解NXT的发展的,股东本身也是看好NXT,那么他们是惜售的。
我也知道啊,这就是一个矛盾体,不出货就没有人加入经来,现在股东一出货就会造成抛售恐慌。
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问个问题,那些大股东什么时候把币出得差不多啊?
股东自身就是了解NXT的发展的,股东本身也是看好NXT,那么他们是惜售的。
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March 28, 2014, 09:06:00 AM
#10
我都看好几遍了,可惜现在重点在于什么时候出AE啊,去中心化交易平台才是关键的东西。
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March 28, 2014, 09:03:31 AM
#9
作为一个nxter,我们都应该看看NXT的白皮书,认真学习。
我们更加多的是要关注NXT的功能开发和技术发展,这将是支撑NXT价格的重要组成。
而不应该像看待山寨币一样看待NXT,只关心价格。应用才是NXT 的发展重点。
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March 28, 2014, 09:03:12 AM
#8
你们NXT挖矿效率怎么样?
我感觉客户端开启一个月毛都没有啊?
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March 28, 2014, 08:59:27 AM
#7
问个问题,那些大股东什么时候把币出得差不多啊?
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March 27, 2014, 08:18:42 AM
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NXT现在价格低迷,这也正常,出来不过几个月而已。看看BTC几年的发展历程就知道,NXT的发展并非一片坦途,后面价格涨涨落落是很平常的事情 Cheesy
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March 27, 2014, 08:16:18 AM
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看好二代币,看好NXT、NEM
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#4
支持NXT!
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March 27, 2014, 06:32:26 AM
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What Is Transparent Forging In Nextcoin (NXT)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfFZBuyXI-s
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这是个好东西,支持下
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Nxt白皮书(修订版)
中文版:http://www.nxtchina.org/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=486
英文版:http://wiki.nxtcrypto.org/wiki/Whitepaper:Nxt
中文版PDF:   Nxt白皮书.pdf (694.51 KB, 下载次数: 2)
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1.Nxt:点对点的电子经济生态系统
1.1摘要
1.2简介
1.3比特币的问题以及Nxt的解决办法
1.4比特币的问题
    1.4.1区块链大小
1.4.2每天的交易量
    1.4.3 交易确认时间
1.4.4中心化的疑虑
    1.4.5 工作量机制对资源的消耗
1.5 Nxt的解决办法
    1.5.1 密码学基础
1.5.1.1 加密算法
    1.5.2 区块链
    1.5.3 交易
    1.5.4 交易确认
    1.5.5 股权证明Proof-of-Stake
    1.5.6 网络
    1.5.7 透明锻造
    1.5.8 交易费用
    1.5.9 回收磁盘空间
    1.5.10 设备可携带性
1.6.0 锻造及Nxt的产出
    1.6.1 Nxt 锻造计算
1.7 计算
1.8 Nxt特性:
    1.8.1 别名系统
    1.8.2 任意信息
    1.8.3 资产交易
    1.8.4 分布式计算
    1.8.5分布式存储
    1.8.6 瞬时交易
    1.8.7 混合服务
    1.8.8 多重签名
    1.8.9服务供应商
    1.8.10 缩减
    1.8.11 智能合约
    1.8.12 双相支付
    1.8.13 投票系统
1.9 BCNext 的引述
1.10 Come-from-Beyond:
1.11 结论
1.12 参考
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1.Nxt:点对点的电子经济生态系统

1.1摘要
比特币已经证明了点对点的(对等的)电子货币系统的可行性,并且可以在不需要信托或是中央印钞厂(金融机构)的情况下完成支付过程。但是比特币的一些缺点也使得其成为电子经济的基础变得困难。为了使得整个经济系统能够建立在对等的基础上,必须要做到以下几点:
       1.快速的处理数以千计的交易量
       2.提供一种产生收入的方法
       3.有可行的方法来增加新特征
       4.能够在可移动设备上运行
而Nxt则满足了以上所有要求,同时还消除了Bitcoin的POW机制所需要的算力设备军备竞赛。Nxt是基于100%的股权证明之上并且需要一种原始的分配方式。但是(很多人)对于这种创始区块的具体分配方式充满了疑惑,他们会问到“怎么解决由于Nxt对73个大股东的不公平分配而导致的骗局指控?BCNext这样做出回应:”这个问题是没办法解决的。即使我们有一百万个股东,剩下的70亿人仍然会觉得这不公平,物欲横流的世界永远都不会公平(有钱的地方就会有不公平)[1]。”
关于Nxt最根本的革新就是透明锻造(Transparent Forging),这是Nxt最核心的改造(创新),使其每秒能处理上千次的交易量。

1.2简介
随着比特币的出以及市场的接纳,迅速的出现了一些山寨产品,它们简单的改变了比特币的某个方面。让所有的比特币供应者达成共识的难度降低了,共识就是只是简单的制造一种全新的币种。目前大约有100多种以比特币资源代码为基础的山寨币。即使与比特币相比,每种山寨币在某些投资环境上可能有其特有的优势,可就其增值以及分裂的特点可能会使得山寨币的成功更令人质疑。此外,也正是因为山寨币是以比特币的源代码为基础的,才会更大限度的延续了比特币的局限性。
为了使交易量增加,一些山寨币仅仅是加快了每种新区块所需要的时间。然而,即便是每分钟一个区块的速度,10次确认程序也需要将时间拉长至10分钟。这对于大量购买是可行的,但是对于购买较小的生活必需品是不实际的。这种方法的弊端之一就在于当降低区块之间的时间间隔时就增加了孤立区块的概率,问题在于在将它们所挖到的区块散播到网络之前,多个节点在对同一个区块进行挖矿。为了测算每分钟上千的交易量需要大量的点对点的带宽或是让交易处理得以集中。前一种办法因为目前特有的网络连接所以不现实,而第二种办法则是与分布式的点对点要求完全背离。只有透明锻造(Transparent Forging)这种解决办法,它能让整个网络来预测哪个节点会锻造下一个区块,从而能够直接的传输交易并且能保证交易中的即时确认,这就消除了网络速度的瓶颈问题。
比特币中经常被忽略的一个缺陷是其作为储藏手段的性质,即像是一个价值不菲的商品。就其本身的特征而言,并没有任何可获利的地方。这看起来仅仅是一个小瑕疵,然而这也正是为什么人们不把他们所有的财富储存在黄金里的原因。如果你有一笔可观数目的财富,把它们都储存在能产生收入的资产中会更有意义。通过比特币直接赚钱的方法,就是推断它的期货价值(未来价格)。Nxt有一种革新机制使交易费用得以循环,即用交易费来奖励锻造出目前区块的节点。就目前而言只有三种方式生成交易费:任意消息、Nxt转移和别名注册,但是随着Nxt增加更多的特征,每一个参与锻造的Nxt账户所生成的收入也会持续增加。因为Nxt拥有一种实用的机制来通过它的投票系统获得更多新的特征,希望社区能同意增加更多有前途的新兴的特征,相应的,也会增加交易费用的数额以及Nxt的实际利率。
通过把所有的这些特点与可扩展的框架相结合,Nxt已经完全成为一个完善且成熟的点对点经济的基础。从微交易,到投资回报产出、公开IPO、瞬时交易,以及所有Nxt所能实现的事情。

1.3比特币的问题以及Nxt的解决办法

1.4比特币的问题
1.4.1区块链大小
比特币的区块链是完全按顺序生成的数据区块,它包含了自从比特币在2009年1月上市以来所有的电子分类账簿。四年之后的2013年1月,比特币的区块链已经占据了4千兆字节(GB)---大约是将一部两个多小时的电影刻在一张DVD光盘上所需要的数据量。仅仅在一年之后的2014年1月,比特币的区块链已经膨胀到3个百分点---13千兆字节(GB)[2]。比特币的区块链正经历着指数倍的增长,因此又必须要修改原始的比特币协议来应对不断增加的区块链。

1.4.2每天的交易量
在2013年年底,比特币的交易量最高达到了每天70,000的峰值,或是平均每秒一个交易量(TPS)。目前的比特币标准区块在一兆字节,是由称之为“全节点”的客户端每隔十分钟产生的,将目前比特币网络总承受量局限在最大7TPS。把这个与VISA的网络工作相比,它的承受能力可以达到10000 TPS,你就会发现比特币不能与如今所存在的相抗衡。
增加比特币系统的公共使用量会使比特币很快达到每日交易量限额,并且会阻断其更多的增长。为了防止这种情况的发生,比特币软件开发者正在研发一种“lite node”客户端,声称能够简化支付验证节点而不会被区块的尺寸所限制。为了在相同的平均十分钟里能操控更多的生产量,SPV lite node不会在他们处理的区块里进行全面的安检,相代替的是对那种竞争的矿工的散列且多样的区块链进行检查,并假定由大多数矿工所生产区块链版本是正确的。用比特币麦凯恩的话来说就是“没有确认所有东西的真伪,仅仅是因为SPV信任大多数的矿工是诚实的。只要大多数是诚实的,SPV就能工作,但全节点确实提供了更好的安全性。例如,你开了个在线店,你就会感觉到运行全节点是有意义的。[3]

1.4.3 交易确认时间
2013年的大部分时候比特币的交易确认时间是5到10分钟。自从中国的银行不许再受理任何比特币的公告一出,比特币的平均交易时间就明显的增加到8到13分钟,以后的交易时间每时每刻都充满着不确定因素。中国的银行预算比特币一天可以产生大约650,000的交易量并且交易确认的时间最长达到20多分钟。因为最终确定比特币的交易需要很多的认证,因此在用比特币购买资产的过程结束之前会很耗时。

1.4.4中心化的疑虑
比特币难度的增加[4]以及网络hashrate [5]的结合成为新手们进入的很大阻力,并且给现存的矿机减少了利润。Bitcoin所采用的区块奖励机制驱动了创建更大、更专业的挖矿设备[6],以及对大型矿池的依赖[7]。这已经导致了"中心化"的结果,因为越来越少的人控制着越来越多的算力。这不仅导致了Bitcoin本身设计时要避开的这种算力结构,而且表明单个挖矿设备或者矿池有能力占据网络总算力的51%并且实施51%攻击。只需要25%总的网络hashpower的攻击也是存在的[8]。
2014年1月初,GHAsh.io 由于其矿池算力接近51%而不得不减少其矿池算力[9]。几天之后,该矿池的算力减少至整个网络算力的34%,但是随后算力马上又增加了。1月份第三周,Bitcoin两个最大的矿池的算力已经达到了网络总算力的60%了[10]。

1.4.5 工作量机制对资源的消耗
现有比特币的交易确认以及创造新的比特币用于流通需要大量的计算算力持续的操作。这种电脑算力是由那些“矿工”们通过所谓的矿机进行操作的。比特币矿工们相互竞争来为整个比特币的区块链增加下一个新的交易区块。这是通过”哈希值“来完成的---将过去十分钟内所有发生的Bitcoin的交易捆绑,并尝试将它们编译到一个区块数据中,而这个区块含有一个特定数目的连续0的随机数。绝大多数旷工哈希计算所产生的区块都不包含该目标0值,因此它们需要作出轻微的改变并继续尝试。为了成功找到区块而进行的大量的尝试称之为"gigahash",也即挖矿设备是用每秒钟能够进行多少gigasashes来分级的,表示为"GH/sec"。第一个产生准确区块的旷工将会收到25个新的Bitcoins的奖励,按照目前的价格来计算为$25,000。这些在旷工之间为了获得奖励的竞争,将会每隔10分钟进行一次又一次的重复。到2014年初,每天产生的作为奖励的Bitcoin的价值在 350万美金。
看到如此多的奖励,旷工之间展开了激烈的军备竞赛,以便增加获得奖励的概率。起初,Bitcoin是用普通计算机的中央处理器(CPU)来挖矿的。后来中门的图形处理单元(GPU)也被用于增加速度。再后来是现场可编程门阵列 (FPGA) ,紧接着则是专用集成线路 (ASIC)芯片。 ASIC技术是Bitcoin旷工的顶级技术,然而军备竞赛则产生了各种各样的ASIC芯片。目前的ASIC芯片是65nm单元的,是基于纳米级的晶体管。它们被2014年初的28nm的ASIC和2014年中的20nm的ASIC所替代了。其中的一个例子是Butterfly Labs"Monarch" 28nm 的ASIC芯片,它能提供的算力为 600GH/sec,电力消耗为350 watts,价格为单片 $2100。Hashblaste刚出来的预定芯片则含有3个20nm的ASIC芯片,能提供的算力为3300 GH/sec,能耗为1800 watts。大多数的挖矿设备都将在2014年中旬升级到该性能标准。
目前支撑Bitcoin运行的挖矿设备构架是惊人的。Bitcoin的ASIC是愚蠢的---它们只能进行Bitcoin的区块计算,并无其他用途,但他们能够以超级计算机的速度进行那种计算。2013年11月,福布斯杂志撰文写道 "全球Bitcoin的算力是500个最顶级超级计算机联合算力的256倍"[11]。2014年1月中旬,blockchain.info显示支撑Bitcoin运行素需要的持续算力为18 million GH/sec。在一天 86,400 秒内,这意味着旷工们为了找到能够获得350万美金奖励的区块,将会有大约1.5万亿的尝试区块被生成和拒。因此大约有99.99999999 % 的Bitcoin的算力并没有用于治疗DNA模型的癌症或者E.T的无线电研究---相反,他们被完全的浪费了。
旷工为了支持Bitcoin所小号的电力和成本是巨大的。如果所有的bitcoin的挖矿设备都拥有 "Monarch" 级别的能力--除非它们升级,否则不会达到这样的级别---这30,000个设备将耗资63,000,000美金,而且每天持续消耗的电力超过10兆瓦,也即是每天消耗的电费好过3,500,000美金[12]。而真实的数目比目前的还要大,因为支持Bitcoin运行的挖矿设备相对比较低效。随着Bitcoin从目前的一秒钟一个交易增大至最大一秒钟7个交易,这些数字也正以指数倍数在向上增长。

1.4.6 持有工作量机制虚拟币的资源耗费
除了大规模的电力消耗之外,单纯的持有比特币也有一些隐性支出。对于每个区块资金,生成区块的实体都需要固定的津贴。在写这篇文章的时候,津贴是25个比特币,为今年比特币的总供给量提供了10%的膨胀率。对于持有价值1000美元的比特币有些人而言,今年需要花费100美元一个的比特币“支付”给矿工们,来保证网络的安全运转。

1.5 Nxt的解决办法
1.5.1 密码学基础
Nxt的主要交易是基于curve 25519算法,该算法使用快速、高效、安全的椭圆曲线秘钥算法(elliptic-curve Diffie-Hellman function[13])生成了共享秘钥。这种算法最先是由 Daniel J. Bernstein 在2006年提出的[14]。
Nxt中的信息签名是使用EC-KCDSA(elliptic-curve Diffie-Hellman function)来实现的,该算法是IEEE P1363a的一部分,是由 the KCDSA Task Force team 在1998年提出的[15]。
所有的算法都是基于平衡速度和安全来选择的,其秘钥长度为32字节。

详细
Nxt白皮书(修订版)
http://www.nxtchina.org/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=486
(出处: Nxt中文社区)
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