Topic: NYC Will Fine You $250,000 For ‘Misgendering’ A Transsexual (Read 2129 times)

then you can call him "you" to be in the safe side. English does not have masculine and feminine for a lot of words so you maybe save most of the time from this gender mess

wow so ridiculess, this 250k fine donkeydoodles even beats belgian politics and justice in crazyness...
who comes up with this shit? so those trans tgirl wannabees, i bet they'll trap you for the fine so they can pay their snip snip operation haha i bet yo'll see stories like that in the future ^^

what if you mistaken someone for a male or female trough the phone? does that rule count too?

i'm gonna start to call everyone asshole..
asshole is nonsexual and genderless, everyone has one even sea cucumbers


instead of:
hi, how are you?
hi, what are you?
lol

Its a ridiculous rules, so if i mistakenly called a transgender i will be fined $250.000, how if somebody mistakenly called a woman into sir, can they be fined too? i think i will start called everyone "human" when i am in new york city

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiilmJJ_PDc

Vs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFtkNok787s

Thank your loving U.S. Government, and its controlled media arm for all of this political correctness. It's is nothing more than divide, and conquer. It's all designed to keep us all in fighting.  They are fomenting racism, with crap like can't say brown bag, certain flags, or costume parties,  Donald trump is _______ fill in the blank, LBGT= Lesbian/Bisexual/Gay/Transgendered to cause more division, blacks against police, Black lives matter, white guilt, white privilege  etc..


It's about keeping us from uniting, and addressing the real problems.  I also really think that Michelle Obama, who Obama himself has called her/him Michael on several several occasion's on camera (look it up), is transgender. This could be another reason for all this transgender push.  

Btw who calls their wife a guys name by accident ? Never ever would I accidentally call my girlfriend, or my wife accidentally, by another genders name.

House Kills Transgender Bill After Moderate Republicans Panic






WASHINGTON—The full U.S. House of Representatives swats down a transgender measure, just hours after 43 Republicans voted for a Democratic amendment that would have forced transgender rules on all 50 states, and disqualify faith-based groups including the Salvation Army from doing business with the federal government.

Last night, 43 Republicans in the House voted for an amendment offered by Democrat Sean Maloney of New York, inserting in H.R. 5055, the Energy and Water Appropriations Act for 2017, a provision making the White House’s transgender policy part of federal law. The amendment passed 223-195 only because of these Republican defections.

Public backlash in the hours after that vote has been nationwide in scope and passionate in intensity. This morning most of those Republicans whipsawed to fall in line with their party base in opposing their own measure, joined by many moderate Democrats surprised as the fury the transgender amendment created. The amended appropriations crashed and burned on the House floor, failing by a vote of 113-305.

This saga began when President Barack Obama signed Executive Order 13672 on July 21, 2014. His order illegally changed federal law by forbidding any private organization from receiving a business contract with the federal government unless it agrees to adopt liberals’ homosexual and transgender agenda (that a person can require others to treat a man as a woman, or a woman as a man, if that person identifies with the opposite sex).

Executive Order 13672 also required all federal agencies to adopt these policies on sexual orientation and gender identity for all hiring and personnel matters.

This issue burst onto the national scene in recent months. For more than a year, the LGBT Left has pushed city ordinances nationwide making these policies the law in those cities.

Then on May 13, 2016, the Office of Civil Rights (OCR) at the U.S. Department of Education (DOEd) issued a letter informing local schools that unless they adopt a transgender policy, they can lose all federal funding, because the Obama administration regards those schools as violating Title IX of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

As Breitbart News reported on the effect of OCR’s policy:

    In other words, if a 17-year-old boy says that he now identifies as a girl, and wants to use his high school girls’ shower at the same time that a 15-year-old girl is showering in that same shower room, and the school does not allow the boy to share the shower with the girl, then the federal government can strip that high school of federal funding.

The Obama administration’s directive has stirred a great deal of controversy.

In the midst of it, North Carolina passed a bill requiring people to use public restrooms that match the sex listed on their birth certificate, reaffirming that the state would adhere to the definition of “sex” used by the entire world for more than 5,000 years, a bill against which the political Left organized opposition nationwide.

Obama’s U.S. Department of Justice filed a lawsuit against North Carolina, accusing it of violating not just the Civil Rights Act’s Title IX, but Title VII as well (saying that employers that decline to recognize someone’s gender identity—including calling male employees “she” and female employees “he” when those employees insist—are engaging in “sex discrimination”).

Even though North Carolina law provided a procedure where a person could change the sex on their birth certificate, and so HB2 did not make it impossible for people to use the bathroom of the sex they identified with. But the attacks have continued regardless, allies of Obama and Hillary Clinton have demonized the measure as a form of discrimination.

North Carolina responded with a lawsuit of its own. Then yesterday, eleven additional states likewise sued the federal government, raising numerous legal arguments and challenging the constitutionality of Obama’s actions.

Had H.R. 5055 become law, it would have guaranteed that the states would lose most of the issues in their lawsuit, leaving only a couple legal arguments remaining, arguments with only an uphill chance of success.

When Maloney’s amendment passed last night, Family Research Council President Tony Perkins condemned the move, saying, “Congress should not allow the government to punish faith-based contractors, like the Salvation Army, that work and hire in accordance with their First Amendment freedoms.”

In the same statement, Perkins praised a separate amendment offered by Rep. Bradley Byrne in the National Defense Authorization Act, which would safeguard religious liberty.

Phones were ringing off the hook on Capitol Hill, and the bill’s supporters beat a hasty retreat this morning.

“We are very pleased that this bill has been soundly defeated due to the Maloney Amendment,” Concerned Women for America CEO Penny Nance exclusively told Breitbart News after the stunning defeat of the amended bill.

“But to think that 43 Republicans would join President Obama to promote transgenderism and force the marginalization of our Christian beliefs is appalling,” Nance added. “So you can rest assured that the effects of this vote will continue to be felt as we move forward.”



http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/05/26/house-kills-transgender-bill-moderate-republicans-panic/

Just call them a gender queer cocklord. As in reality any trans is basically this.

Keep your mouth shut if you go to Canada...

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/05/25/canadians-face-two-years-jail-criticizing-transgender-gender-fluid-ideology/


 

This is absolutely absurd. In my opinion, if you have a penis, you are a male, and if you have a vagina you are a female. PERIOD. I am not a believer in the gender spectrum, and if I am fined 1/4 of a $Million for accidentally calling a man a man, so help me god.

haha, hope we'll never come to this, but who knows, this world is unpredictable. For now you might choose not to live in the NYC if you don't like the law OR avoid intercourse with A Transsexual. )

So now not allowing anyone who decides they feel like a man or a woman that day to go into whatever bathroom, locker room, or shower they like is "bigotry against trannys", oh of course. It couldn't be that they are defending the rights of everyone else against a small fascist minority subset of this tiny community now could it? No, that makes too much sense!

No, but there is a fine for calling a slut, whore, or a skank, ho

Also, Santa must now say "Ha ha ha"... the previous jolly, "Ho ho ho", was offensive to the whores



Note: If anyone from NYC wants to be a bigot against trannys, they can always move to NC...  NC will defend religious bigotry to the grave
(and NYC is nearly NC anyway... just missing a Y)

So far only ONE poster shared his fantasy with pictures on this thread... One. And that wasn't me...


Do you think these people are afraid of gays? I would love to hear your opinion on this

You jumping right back to accusations of hate and latent homosexuality as your argument says a lot more.

Really? The sarcasm and blatent posts like this says it all.

Amazing demonstration of logic. Gold star.

Meet Carmen and Jenna.

Now if these 2 hot Bitches came knocking at your door and asked if they could use your bathroom your dick would get rock hard you would forget your own name and you would let them use your bathroom. You would also address them anyway they wish.

Don't say you wouldn't. They are both Trans

I am pretty sure most people in this thread don't have a problem with transexuals or homosexuals for that matter. They have a problem with the rhetoric and totalitarian policies pushed using the banner of this small minority of individuals dictating to the vast majority of people what they can and can't say (kind of like what you are doing right now), as well as putting them at risk to satisfy the emotional demands of a small subsection of their group. You rely on accusing these people of homophobia because you have no other argument but to accuse these people of hate because there is no logic for you to stand on! You had better start working on growing a brain now, because the era of the social justice warrior mentality of emotion = logic is over.

Quite a bit of Homophobia going on in this thread.....Do these people really bother you all so much you post hateful things as you do?  Since when has a Transsexual wronged you in life?

Are you spewing hate because deep inside you have the curiosity to to look....To be interested in some of these folks?

Are you waging a war with your hidden Homo erotic fantasies?

I think so!


If they are not bothering you let them live their lives as they wish.


Please please let those of you complaining about these people step up and give an example of how a "Transsexual" has wronged you or did something to Affect your lives.

I'm waiting.

NYC Lets You Choose From 31 Different Gender Identities



Individuals living in New York City can choose from a minimum of 31 different gender identities, many of which allow them to fluctuate between some version or combination of male or female identities.

Businesses that don’t respect and accommodate an individual’s chosen gender identity risk incurring six-figure fines under rules implemented by the city’s Commission on Human Rights.

The list of protected gender identities is available online and includes options such as “gender bender,” “two spirit,” “third sex,” “androgynous,” “gender gifted,” and “pangender.” A city official speaking on background confirmed to The Daily Caller that all of the listed identities are protected by the city’s anti-discrimination laws, but said that the list was not exhaustive.

The city does not provide definitions of the various gender identities, but TheDC was able to define several of them from glossaries provided online by the University of Wisconsin and the University of California Berkeley.


http://dailycaller.com/2016/05/24/new-york-city-lets-you-choose-from-31-different-gender-identities/


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There is no way to escape from a fine if genders are fluid from day to day.

this is so ridiculous.. they want to create a third gender.. but absolutely not , it wont happen..

Ridiculous.

I generally only use masculine or feminine pronouns because singular "they" (etc.) sounds stupid in some sentences, and the newly-invented pronouns also sound bad. I'm happy to use a person's choice of either "he" or "she", but not to mangle my English.

I'm also curious how people should identify these zhehirs if they saw one.
Lol - grammar check doesn't recognize the word - maybe that's saying something as well.

There are common sense rules and then are rules that are in the realm of science fiction. I can't believe this to be true. Do they really believe people to do this?

Jesus f'ing Christ...I was hoping this "zhe,hir, etc..." crap would exist solely in the realm of the internet and these delusional kooks' minds but no, I should've know. This has gone way beyond out of hand and control, this reality is more and more like bizarro-land each day.

Zhe? Hir? Are these even words? When have they invented them? What I can say at least is that the grammar check here doesn't recognize these words. Might be something.

What fresh hell is this? Where do they get these things? Who makes up such nonsense?
Only in the US will you see such craziness.
Hir? What the hell is that?
There are two genders. Male and female. And that's it.
Now all transgenders will go looking for people to see if they are saying hir and blir.
How is a person to know if someone is male or female?
Guys use makeup. Girls wear short hair and baseball caps.

This is barbarian. Now you must think in yourself what 'is' the person which entered your shop..And say to workers to pay attention too. The best is to speak only 'you'

Say "Hello!" Just smile. Keep the video surveillance rolling as proof just in case. Say "goodbye!"

that's terrible, and how the seller would know if transsexual enter his shop is he 'she' or 'he' or better is he a transsexual at all? It's the best simply to say 'you'...unfortunately the world goes mad...

Small businesses should just move out of NYC to somewhere more sane and hospitable. Stupid laws and regulations such as this one will be definitely be misused by the Sodomites, for the purpose of extortion and blackmail. Why risk your 10-year savings by doing business in the NYC?

If it is truly NYC - or any other entity outside of a real flesh and blood man or woman - that takes you to court, require that the plaintiff appear and take the oath or affirmation and get on the stand and testify how you harmed it.

From http://voidjudgments.com/22reasons.htm:
See the court cases listed at the site, above.

If the plaintiff cannot appear and get on the stand, you win. In addition, if you do it right, you receive damages in the amount that the plaintiff would have demanded from you... or more.

If a live flesh and blood person happens to be the plaintiff, and gets on the stand, they better be ready to show how they were harmed or damaged, and how you did it with witnesses and evidence. It has to be a real harm or damage, not some fake thing that they say you hurt their emotions. They hurt their own emotions way more than you ever could. In fact, you didn't. It was them all the way. Let them prove it was you and not they themselves.

Getting killed.

This is ridiculous! What happened to free speech?

We are the Borg. Your biological and technological distinctiveness will be added to our own. Resistance is futile.

I think phone numbers instead of names is an idea whose time will come too. This name and title stuff is desperately last century.

Humanoid instance #640815 336881 rev 1.1.

Every single one of us should be referred to as 'it'. No possible offence and it gets the job done.

It's ridiculous and the $250.000 fine is way to high.

Just wear a kufi cap. Much, much stronger repellent effect than a diplomatic passport. It's like kriptonite to the pink mafia.

Well... Then I need diplomatic passport.

Then you'll get the electric chair for it...

Just call him a faggot to avoid any misgendering.

This kind of abuse will backfire big time.

Well, when I use the term it´s for persons that compromise principles for personal gain, as in political, corporate whores. And I would never worry the slightest bit about hurting the feelings of that crap, it´s public persons and as such have to take it. Regular whores I´d call prostitutes I guess, in the unlikely event that I´d bother to discuss them anyway. I´m not going to call them effin sex workers. Who comes up with this crap? Hahahaha.

What about "attention whore"? Is that a dying term? The concept itself is totally ballooning these days what with all the social media etc,. Somehow attention sex worker doesn´t sound very convincing.

"If a whore falls in a forest and no one is around to hear her (as everyone is on her ignore list), does she make a sound?"

 

Apart from being rude, that word have some negative connotations, and can strengthen negative stereotypes, therefore it can hurt the feelings of the whores . Perhaps you want to use the sex worker instead. That's the PC name for them.

...and we not yet involved the feminist opinion about them, so watch your steps as there is a minefield behind this word .

This is ridiculous... WTF.

Is there a fine for calling a whore a whore? Just curious.

Did you call a transsexual person “he” or “she” when they preferred to be called “zhe?” According to a newly updated anti-discrimination law in New York City, you could be fined an eye-watering $250,000.

In the latest, astonishing act of draconian political correctness, the NYC Commission on Human Rights have updated a law on “Discrimination on the Basis of Gender Identity or Expression” to threaten staggering financial penalties against property owners who “misgender” employees or tenants.

Incidents that are deemed “wilful and malicious” will see property owners face up to $250,000 in fines, while standard violations of the law will result in a $125,000 fine. For small business owners, these sums are crippling.

It’s not as simple as referring to transmen “he” or transwomen as “she,” either. The legislation makes it clear that if an individual desires, property owners will have to make use of “zhe,” “hir” and any other preferred pronoun. From the updated legislation:

    The NYCHRL requires employers and covered entities to use an individual’s preferred name, pronoun and title (e.g., Ms./Mrs.) regardless of the individual’s sex assigned at birth, anatomy, gender, medical history, appearance, or the sex indicated on the individual’s identification. Most individuals and many transgender people use female or male pronouns and titles.

    Some transgender and gender non-conforming people prefer to use pronouns other than he/him/his or she/her/hers, such as they/them/theirs or ze/hir

Other violations of the law include refusing to allow individuals to use single-sex facilities such as bathrooms that are “consistent with their gender identity,” failing to provide employee health benefits for “gender-affirming care” and “imposing different uniforms or grooming standards based on sex or gender.”

Examples of such illegal behaviour include: “requiring female bartenders to wear makeup,” “Permitting only individuals who identify as women to wear jewellery or requiring only individuals who identify as male to have short hair,” and “permitting female but not male residents at a drug treatment facility to wear wigs and high heels.”

In other words, if a bar owner prevents male bartenders from wearing lipstick and heels, they’ll be breaking the law. They’ve now got a choice between potentially scaring off customers, and paying hundreds of thousands of dollars in fines. Regardless of the establishment’s clientèle or aesthetic, every property owner will be forced to conform to the same standard.

This is the latest in what Spiked Online editor-in-chief Brendan O’Neill calls “The Crisis of Character” in the west, in which identities become grounded in subjective interpretation rather than objective reality. The state is now forcing society to recognise the subjective identities of individuals, regardless of how absurd or surreal they may seem. In New York City, recognising someone’s identity is no longer a matter of case-by-case common sense and courtesy. It’s zir way or the highway.


http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2015/12/27/nyc-will-fine-you-250000-for-misgendering-a-transsexual/