Yes, exactly. I am opposed to dialectic/rhetoric/polemics and problem framing in manners which are prejudicial. We can phrase a leading question so that there is 'only one right answer'. However, these are fairly simplistic tactics in debate or polemics. They lead to a false certainty or false agreement, usually this is taken in some direction which those 'who agreed' would not agree with. But that is of course the intent of he framing the question.
This is a thread that should die. And not rise again on the third day. 
Topic: OBJECTION TO Just_me thread about Blind and Deaf (Read 10548 times)
Yeah, my own brother is deaf, so it was a bit ugly to me too.
But I'm way past thinking that the answer to "do you believe in god" is important. Some do, some don't, and that's no reason to like or dislike any of them.
But I'm way past thinking that the answer to "do you believe in god" is important. Some do, some don't, and that's no reason to like or dislike any of them.
Very insightful, I agree; don't hate a person for their religion, hate them for who they are
I don't have anything against Christians, I just hate bigoted ignorant assholes like just_me.
Yeah, my own brother is deaf, so it was a bit ugly to me too.
But I'm way past thinking that the answer to "do you believe in god" is important. Some do, some don't, and that's no reason to like or dislike any of them.
But I'm way past thinking that the answer to "do you believe in god" is important. Some do, some don't, and that's no reason to like or dislike any of them.
Very insightful, I agree; don't hate a person for their religion, hate them for who they are
I don't have anything against Christians, I just hate bigoted ignorant assholes like just_me.most Christians know that the bible is filled with bullshit and that it's supposed to be metaphoric and they aren't hating people who don't believe, just_me is just_an_asshole
Yeah, my own brother is deaf, so it was a bit ugly to me too.
But I'm way past thinking that the answer to "do you believe in god" is important. Some do, some don't, and that's no reason to like or dislike any of them.
But I'm way past thinking that the answer to "do you believe in god" is important. Some do, some don't, and that's no reason to like or dislike any of them.
Very insightful, I agree; don't hate a person for their religion, hate them for who they are
I don't have anything against Christians, I just hate bigoted ignorant assholes like just_me.
Yeah, my own brother is deaf, so it was a bit ugly to me too.
But I'm way past thinking that the answer to "do you believe in god" is important. Some do, some don't, and that's no reason to like or dislike any of them.
But I'm way past thinking that the answer to "do you believe in god" is important. Some do, some don't, and that's no reason to like or dislike any of them.
ITT: people arguing with one of the most trolling trolls in this forum
Not on this thread, he yet again insulted people suffering from blindness, and I deleted his post. Not welcome on this thread.
being a religious nut on this site.. that's a first, isn't it? bitcoiners are usually against the establishment or institutions that are designed to keep you a slave.. and that's what organized religion is, for the most part.
Believers in bitcoin, at some levels... Less established, almost as crazy...
ITT: people arguing with one of the most trolling trolls in this forum
Not on this thread, he yet again insulted people suffering from blindness, and I deleted his post. Not welcome on this thread.
I'm sure when he said "Ungodly Pervert" he meant me.
And you know what? I'm fine with that.
it looks like he ejected himself via this thread here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/hypocrite-lawbreaker-transgressor-blasphemer-ungodly-pervert-339931
i'd like to personally thank him for personally contributing to the improvement of the bitcointalk.org community. thanks!
i'd like to personally thank him for personally contributing to the improvement of the bitcointalk.org community. thanks!
LOL hope he stays gone
it looks like he ejected himself via this thread here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/hypocrite-lawbreaker-transgressor-blasphemer-ungodly-pervert-339931
i'd like to personally thank him for personally contributing to the improvement of the bitcointalk.org community. thanks!
i'd like to personally thank him for personally contributing to the improvement of the bitcointalk.org community. thanks!
being a religious nut on this site.. that's a first, isn't it? bitcoiners are usually against the establishment or institutions that are designed to keep you a slave.. and that's what organized religion is, for the most part.
Yes, you're absolutely correct; the belief that these governing bodies are doing everything in the world, while they do nothing but order people to do things, is very similar to how a belief in a magical sky-man alters reality upon his own command, only after a believer has done so.
being a religious nut on this site.. that's a first, isn't it? bitcoiners are usually against the establishment or institutions that are designed to keep you a slave.. and that's what organized religion is, for the most part.
Bitcoin beggars use religion (god bless you). Those slaves are gullible.
being a religious nut on this site.. that's a first, isn't it? bitcoiners are usually against the establishment or institutions that are designed to keep you a slave.. and that's what organized religion is, for the most part.
ITT: people arguing with one of the most trolling trolls in this forum
Not on this thread, he yet again insulted people suffering from blindness, and I deleted his post. Not welcome on this thread.
ITT: people arguing with one of the most trolling trolls in this forum
Yes, that's all very nice.
Have a really nice day today.
Have a really nice day today.
I found it ironic and interesting when just_me deleted my posts:
Perhaps the truth strikes home hard.
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Quote from: just_me on November 15, 2013, 07:06:55 PM
Whatever you people say, nonetheless, the Holy Bible
says that people who do not believe in Jesus Christ are blind and deaf.
And the holy bible is more trustworthy than people who do not believe in Jesus Christ.
The bible was written and re-written by people, its filled with the words of other people, people who are able to be fault, lying or mistaken. If you are going to take the words of others as the ultimate truth, simply because they tell you to, and then start to call out others because they seek a bit more truth, than the simple word of people, then the only one deaf and blind is you for blocking your mind from any facts and only having faith in something so uncertain.
Quote from: just_me on November 15, 2013, 07:06:55 PM
Whatever you people say, nonetheless, the Holy Bible
says that people who do not believe in Jesus Christ are blind and deaf.
And the holy bible is more trustworthy than people who do not believe in Jesus Christ.
The bible was written and re-written by people, its filled with the words of other people, people who are able to be fault, lying or mistaken. If you are going to take the words of others as the ultimate truth, simply because they tell you to, and then start to call out others because they seek a bit more truth, than the simple word of people, then the only one deaf and blind is you for blocking your mind from any facts and only having faith in something so uncertain.
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Quote from: just_me on November 15, 2013, 07:50:22 PM
The holy bible says you are blind and deaf.
The holy bible is more trustworthy than non-believers.
You sound a lot like a "Born-Again" Christian, everything in your life has to do with Jesus and the Lord and what the eff ever...Converts are the most fanatical of all religious people, the dive in so fervently they forget what the rest of life is and not able to live it for what it is.
Quote from: just_me on November 15, 2013, 07:50:22 PM
The holy bible says you are blind and deaf.
The holy bible is more trustworthy than non-believers.
You sound a lot like a "Born-Again" Christian, everything in your life has to do with Jesus and the Lord and what the eff ever...Converts are the most fanatical of all religious people, the dive in so fervently they forget what the rest of life is and not able to live it for what it is.
Perhaps the truth strikes home hard.
just_me isn't an avarage Christian, he's probably some sort of a religious fanatic, I'v never met someone so "blind"..
don't judge people by certain individuals
+1don't judge people by certain individuals
Just_me issues a reply to me in his "Locked thread", to which one cannot reply. I'm cutting out a lot of the wanna-be-preacher crap and posting it here.
Spendulus.
I quoted from Jesus Christ in my original post, and when Jesus said something, well, isn't it great that Jesus is right, but you are wrong?
....Matthew 13:13-15...
"Because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
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but later on in this thread, I did try to explain to you, how it is for me to try and reason with people who are blind and deaf, because they do not believe in Jesus Christ.....
Dude, just because you make your fingers produce words on keyboards does not mean you make any sense. Your reference isn't even an analogy. "See but do not see" is not equal to "blind".
You've just, AGAIN, insulted my blind friends.
just_me isn't an avarage Christian, he's probably some sort of a religious fanatic, I'v never met someone so "blind"..
don't judge people by certain individuals
+1 don't judge people by certain individuals
just_me isn't an avarage Christian, he's probably some sort of a religious fanatic, I'v never met someone so "blind"..
don't judge people by certain individuals
don't judge people by certain individuals
So far your predictions have been 100% wrong.
This could not be more false. But it doesn't surprise me anymore because you bend the truth about everything I do.So you are saying you DID fly? A tidal wave DID destroy the east coast? You had a million man concert in 2012? You stopped a cloud from moving with your mind? How many others have I missed?
Tell us all which of these predictions came through. Which ones did I "bend the truth" about?
So far your predictions have been 100% wrong.
This could not be more false. But it doesn't surprise me anymore because you bend the truth about everything I do. isn't this to be expected? you give people some form of autonomy/power, and they will use it to their own advantage. yeah, i've had that kind of stuff done to me before (a moderator misused his mod powers). you can't really stop a dick from being a dick. all you can do is try to let it go and move on.
there are so many ignorant people in this world who are not willing to accept dissenting opinions, and this guy seems like one of them. there isn't a big difference, to me at least, between a religious nut and a fanboy.
Good point. But the 'dick' in question has also closed two threads when they didn't go to his liking. This thread, I started and will moderate myself.there are so many ignorant people in this world who are not willing to accept dissenting opinions, and this guy seems like one of them. there isn't a big difference, to me at least, between a religious nut and a fanboy.
My fundamental argument is that "There are no dicks in the service of the True God (whoever and whatever that maybe).
isn't this to be expected? you give people some form of autonomy/power, and they will use it to their own advantage. yeah, i've had that kind of stuff done to me before (a moderator misused his mod powers). you can't really stop a dick from being a dick. all you can do is try to let it go and move on.
there are so many ignorant people in this world who are not willing to accept dissenting opinions, and this guy seems like one of them. there isn't a big difference, to me at least, between a religious nut and a fanboy.
there are so many ignorant people in this world who are not willing to accept dissenting opinions, and this guy seems like one of them. there isn't a big difference, to me at least, between a religious nut and a fanboy.
"One day" is danks mantra. Nothing he speaks about exists today - you will always wait for tomorrow.
And tomorrow never comes.
Do you think your finite body will last forever? If not, then surely you will see this day, and in that moment you can think about my mantra and how dank called that one day.And tomorrow never comes.
Rest assured, tomorrow will come.
Tomorrow always comes; I speak metaphorically of your predictions that something will happen. It's always something that will happen in the future - it's never anything you can back up or show proof of today.
So far your predictions have been 100% wrong.
Let me shed some light. People that do not believe in Jesus or god have simply not surpassed a certain extent of life experiences to affirm a belief in so.
It's just different levels of understanding.
One day we will all believe in god, whether it's when you're alive or when you die, everyone believes because we are one soul, one consciousness, we are god and our beliefs will converge as we hit the end of time.
It's just different levels of understanding.
One day we will all believe in god, whether it's when you're alive or when you die, everyone believes because we are one soul, one consciousness, we are god and our beliefs will converge as we hit the end of time.
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Let me shed some light. People that do not believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster have simply not surpassed a certain extent of life experiences to affirm a belief in so.
It's just different levels of understanding.
One day we will all believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster, whether it's when you're alive or when you die, everyone believes because we are one soul, one consciousness, we are god and our beliefs will converge as we hit the end of time.
It's just different levels of understanding.
One day we will all believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster, whether it's when you're alive or when you die, everyone believes because we are one soul, one consciousness, we are god and our beliefs will converge as we hit the end of time.
Your problem is that you care so much about this that you think his opinion matters.
Seriously; he's who he is and you're who you are and the two of you aren't going to have a discussion that either of you can enjoy.
So life is too short to waste time and sweat on this sort of thing.
Seriously; he's who he is and you're who you are and the two of you aren't going to have a discussion that either of you can enjoy.
So life is too short to waste time and sweat on this sort of thing.
Posts like this one should be quoted more. They can save a lot of people a lot of valuable time.
Sit back for a moment and guess the chances of either side persuading the other in this discussion. Or just giving in on one point after it's made. It just doesn't happen. The religion flamewar always looks identical and tends to be entirely unproductive. I'd not get too involved unless there's an unavoidable confrontation with it.
"One day" is danks mantra. Nothing he speaks about exists today - you will always wait for tomorrow.
And tomorrow never comes.
Do you think your finite body will last forever? If not, then surely you will see this day, and in that moment you can think about my mantra and how dank called that one day.And tomorrow never comes.
Rest assured, tomorrow will come.
One day we will all believe in god, whether it's when you're alive or when you die, everyone believes because we are one soul, one consciousness, we are god and our beliefs will converge as we hit the end of time.
this is a very interesting comment.
Your problem is that you care so much about this that you think his opinion matters.
Seriously; he's who he is and you're who you are and the two of you aren't going to have a discussion that either of you can enjoy.
So life is too short to waste time and sweat on this sort of thing.
You are correct.Seriously; he's who he is and you're who you are and the two of you aren't going to have a discussion that either of you can enjoy.
So life is too short to waste time and sweat on this sort of thing.
I just thought people would like to know what kind of a post the guy deletes from his stupid threads.
And yes, I do know blind people and they damn sure smarter than he is. And more sure footed and with acute sensitivities.
Too bad that such drugs are illegal here... One more bad thing of statist systems... I can't just reach dank's level... Not that I would want probably...
"One day" is danks mantra. Nothing he speaks about exists today - you will always wait for tomorrow.
And tomorrow never comes.
And tomorrow never comes.
Exactly, why I was stating nobody is blind or death for a belief, yet they share a different perspective of understanding.
Let me shed some light. People that do not believe in Jesus or god have simply not surpassed a certain extent of life experiences to affirm a belief in so.
It's just different levels of understanding.
One day we will all believe in god, whether it's when you're alive or when you die, everyone believes because we are one soul, one consciousness, we are god and our beliefs will converge as we hit the end of time.
It's just different levels of understanding.
One day we will all believe in god, whether it's when you're alive or when you die, everyone believes because we are one soul, one consciousness, we are god and our beliefs will converge as we hit the end of time.
Calling people blind and deaf is putting you in a lower plane of consciousness and awareness then...
Let me shed some light. People that do not believe in Jesus or god have simply not surpassed a certain extent of life experiences to affirm a belief in so.
It's just different levels of understanding.
One day we will all believe in god, whether it's when you're alive or when you die, everyone believes because we are one soul, one consciousness, we are god and our beliefs will converge as we hit the end of time.
It's just different levels of understanding.
One day we will all believe in god, whether it's when you're alive or when you die, everyone believes because we are one soul, one consciousness, we are god and our beliefs will converge as we hit the end of time.
Your problem is that you care so much about this that you think his opinion matters.
Seriously; he's who he is and you're who you are and the two of you aren't going to have a discussion that either of you can enjoy.
So life is too short to waste time and sweat on this sort of thing.
Seriously; he's who he is and you're who you are and the two of you aren't going to have a discussion that either of you can enjoy.
So life is too short to waste time and sweat on this sort of thing.
I cornered this dude pretty well. I am sure Jesus did exactly what just_me did when he banned everyone from ever mentioning the name of that 14th disciple... What was his name again?
I am a christian. just_me is not.
I am a christian. just_me is not.
In Just_me's thread, he posted this:
Quote from: just_me on Today at 11:07:30 PM
I tell the blind man, the door is over there.
The blind man doesn't bother to 'look' or check, but simply says: There is no door over there, you are an idiot.
I tell the blind man again: 'The door is over there' but once again the blind man will not even 'look' or check, so he never gets to that door and never opens the door.
Instead the blind man wastes my time, by asking me why I think there is a door over there.
After a while, I decide I am not even going to listen to the blind man anymore.
The blind man yells at me as I leave: 'Don't push your belief in doors on me'
I just shrug my shoulders and walk away, going out the door I told him was there.
I replied...
I've known some blind men and women and they were damn sharp. They didn't act or think like you say they do. They knew where every door, cupboard, and thing was around where they lived.
You insult blind men and women.
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Quote from: just_me on Today at 11:07:30 PM
I tell the blind man, the door is over there.
The blind man doesn't bother to 'look' or check, but simply says: There is no door over there, you are an idiot.
I tell the blind man again: 'The door is over there' but once again the blind man will not even 'look' or check, so he never gets to that door and never opens the door.
Instead the blind man wastes my time, by asking me why I think there is a door over there.
After a while, I decide I am not even going to listen to the blind man anymore.
The blind man yells at me as I leave: 'Don't push your belief in doors on me'
I just shrug my shoulders and walk away, going out the door I told him was there.
I replied...
I've known some blind men and women and they were damn sharp. They didn't act or think like you say they do. They knew where every door, cupboard, and thing was around where they lived.
You insult blind men and women.
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