OFFERING MY INDIANA RESIDENCY TO PLACE LEGAL LEGITIMATE SPORTS BETS

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Quote from: davis196 on November 18, 2021, 02:22:28 AM

What makes gambling in Indiana so special?There are other states in the USA with more liberal regulations.

I think that Indiana is special just because OP lives their and the gambling is legal there, nothing else.

Quote from: davis196 on November 18, 2021, 02:22:28 AM

Why are you even offering such service?Can't you make money in other ways,that are more legit?
Offering a shady service that is bypassing the gambling restrictions in the USA doesn't seem trustworthy to me.How can you prove that someone can actually trust you?Do you accept some kind of escrow service,where the customer can tell the middleman to release the funds to you,after you have successfully conducted your service?
Good luck with your business,OP.

Exactly. That`s what i try to understand in this thread. Even if he is betting for you, you still break the law, just in another way. And this offer just add you risks with confidence. I still can`t understand the offer. Online casinos with cryptocurrencies allows you to gamble from anywhere.

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Quote from: davis196 on November 18, 2021, 02:22:28 AM

What makes gambling in Indiana so special?There are other states in the USA with more liberal regulations.
Why are you even offering such service?Can't you make money in other ways,that are more legit?
Offering a shady service that is bypassing the gambling restrictions in the USA doesn't seem trustworthy to me.How can you prove that someone can actually trust you?Do you accept some kind of escrow service,where the customer can tell the middleman to release the funds to you,after you have successfully conducted your service?
Good luck with your business,OP.

I don't think betting in Indian is that lucrative to the extent of hiring the service of another residents to help place bet on one behalf, I don't think much members will fine this service interesting.

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What makes gambling in Indiana so special?There are other states in the USA with more liberal regulations.
Why are you even offering such service?Can't you make money in other ways,that are more legit?
Offering a shady service that is bypassing the gambling restrictions in the USA doesn't seem trustworthy to me.How can you prove that someone can actually trust you?Do you accept some kind of escrow service,where the customer can tell the middleman to release the funds to you,after you have successfully conducted your service?
Good luck with your business,OP.

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Quote from: AicecreaME on November 17, 2021, 08:10:08 AM

Quote from: YOSHIE on November 04, 2021, 04:07:24 AM

Quote from: Matt55317 on November 04, 2021, 03:37:23 AM

I live in INDIANA. It is now totally legal and legitimate to gamble on sports on some of the best sports looks on the web now, here in good ole Indiana.

You should bet for yourself, why do you bet on someone's application, this is gambling, no one guarantees you can make more than $ 10 of your capital and no one guarantees honesty in the world of gambling.

After all, there are many gambling sites (Indiana), such as: indianafarfarm.com, indiana jaya bet, indianahauntedhouses.com etc., so what name indiana do you mean, I don't know your motives and goals for placing bets on other people's gambling sites.

My advice if you are good at sports betting games, you should bet for yourself without involving other people's applications.

I agree.

Also, OP's account is just a newbie which means everyone who's thinking about availing OP's offer have to be careful before proceeding to a transaction. Another thing is not only in Indiana has a legal sports betting, so I don't think this kind of scheme won't work to anybody here in this forum who likes sports betting. For me, this is too fishy to be accepted by anyone who wants to try it out.

I think that it does not matter newbie account or full member for example. The man that makes such an offer may be a scammer, but the same time he can just hide his main account or his personal data from the community. But in any way the offer don`t looks interesting and safe.

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Quote from: AicecreaME on November 17, 2021, 08:10:08 AM

Quote from: YOSHIE on November 04, 2021, 04:07:24 AM

Quote from: Matt55317 on November 04, 2021, 03:37:23 AM

I live in INDIANA. It is now totally legal and legitimate to gamble on sports on some of the best sports looks on the web now, here in good ole Indiana.

You should bet for yourself, why do you bet on someone's application, this is gambling, no one guarantees you can make more than $ 10 of your capital and no one guarantees honesty in the world of gambling.

After all, there are many gambling sites (Indiana), such as: indianafarfarm.com, indiana jaya bet, indianahauntedhouses.com etc., so what name indiana do you mean, I don't know your motives and goals for placing bets on other people's gambling sites.

My advice if you are good at sports betting games, you should bet for yourself without involving other people's applications.

I agree.

Also, OP's account is just a newbie which means everyone who's thinking about availing OP's offer have to be careful before proceeding to a transaction. Another thing is not only in Indiana has a legal sports betting, so I don't think this kind of scheme won't work to anybody here in this forum who likes sports betting. For me, this is too fishy to be accepted by anyone who wants to try it out.

You are totally dumb if you do really consider out on acquiring such service if you could able to directly make out some bets if you wanted too and as mentioned on which there are legal sports betting out there and making out some transactions with third parties does sounds fishy.

I wouldnt touch up this one on a 10-ft pole and to those newbies or noobs out there then BEWARE!

Dont easily get hooked up on something who do offer such service.

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Quote from: YOSHIE on November 04, 2021, 04:07:24 AM

Quote from: Matt55317 on November 04, 2021, 03:37:23 AM

I live in INDIANA. It is now totally legal and legitimate to gamble on sports on some of the best sports looks on the web now, here in good ole Indiana.

You should bet for yourself, why do you bet on someone's application, this is gambling, no one guarantees you can make more than $ 10 of your capital and no one guarantees honesty in the world of gambling.

After all, there are many gambling sites (Indiana), such as: indianafarfarm.com, indiana jaya bet, indianahauntedhouses.com etc., so what name indiana do you mean, I don't know your motives and goals for placing bets on other people's gambling sites.

My advice if you are good at sports betting games, you should bet for yourself without involving other people's applications.

I agree.

Also, OP's account is just a newbie which means everyone who's thinking about availing OP's offer have to be careful before proceeding to a transaction. Another thing is not only in Indiana has a legal sports betting, so I don't think this kind of scheme won't work to anybody here in this forum who likes sports betting. For me, this is too fishy to be accepted by anyone who wants to try it out.

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Quote from: wxa7115 on November 16, 2021, 03:51:02 PM

And that is one of the many issues with this, using a service like that will require a huge amount of trust as you are giving your money to a person on the Internet that you have never seen and which will be impossible to track.

And even in the case the service is legitimate it will leave a money trail that could eventually lead to the discovery that this service exists and that it has been cheating the casino, creating a whole bunch of issues that in my mind are not the trouble to deal with.

Even if we don`t speak about trust, i don`t see the way, how it becomes legitimate. If it becomes legitimate on one side, it becomes illegitimate on the another side. And as you said yet it break casino rules most times.
And with this set of violations we begin talking about trust.

Can someone give an example how it works with any concrete states/countries and laws?

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Quote from: Cryptock on November 14, 2021, 03:23:24 PM

If there is someone willing to use his services, I think that he will not be contacted in public, but will do so in a private message. I don't think both of them would be so stupid to tell anyone else about their deal. If their arrangement is kept secret, I doubt they will suffer any consequences.

In my country there is a proverb - "money loves silence". This is really true and i agree with you, that OP and his potential client will not negotiate here. But i just trying to understand what advantages the client can get from such offer. For the law it looks the same, may be even the worse choice because it can add some more problems with money transfers.

And that is one of the many issues with this, using a service like that will require a huge amount of trust as you are giving your money to a person on the Internet that you have never seen and which will be impossible to track.

And even in the case the service is legitimate it will leave a money trail that could eventually lead to the discovery that this service exists and that it has been cheating the casino, creating a whole bunch of issues that in my mind are not worth the trouble to deal with.

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Quote from: Cryptock on November 15, 2021, 11:38:22 AM

Quote from: mak013 on November 15, 2021, 01:26:43 AM

Quote from: Cryptock on November 14, 2021, 03:23:24 PM

If there is someone willing to use his services, I think that he will not be contacted in public, but will do so in a private message. I don't think both of them would be so stupid to tell anyone else about their deal. If their arrangement is kept secret, I doubt they will suffer any consequences.

In my country there is a proverb - "money loves silence". This is really true and i agree with you, that OP and his potential client will not negotiate here. But i just trying to understand what advantages the client can get from such offer. For the law it looks the same, may be even the worse choice because it can add some more problems with money transfers.

"Money likes silence" all over the world my friend Wink

When it comes to transfers, I think there will be no problem if they bet and deal only in crypto. The problem may be only when these are large amounts and you will have to prove from where come the new car in front of the house.. Wink

And as I wrote, it may be that someone is afraid to use a VPN so that his funds are not blocked by the casino.

Yes, i didn`t mean that problem is to transfer cryptocurrencies. The main problem is to legalize it. I have an opportunity to transfer cryptocurrencies to cash in my city, but i can`t make big deals in cash. And making any transfer with credit card can the reason for asking different questions, that i don`t want to answer.

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Quote from: mak013 on November 15, 2021, 01:26:43 AM

Quote from: Cryptock on November 14, 2021, 03:23:24 PM

If there is someone willing to use his services, I think that he will not be contacted in public, but will do so in a private message. I don't think both of them would be so stupid to tell anyone else about their deal. If their arrangement is kept secret, I doubt they will suffer any consequences.

In my country there is a proverb - "money loves silence". This is really true and i agree with you, that OP and his potential client will not negotiate here. But i just trying to understand what advantages the client can get from such offer. For the law it looks the same, may be even the worse choice because it can add some more problems with money transfers.

"Money likes silence" all over the world my friend Wink

When it comes to transfers, I think there will be no problem if they bet and deal only in crypto. The problem may be only when these are large amounts and you will have to prove from where come the new car in front of the house.. Wink

And as I wrote, it may be that someone is afraid to use a VPN so that his funds are not blocked by the casino.

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Quote from: suzanne5223 on November 08, 2021, 02:09:55 PM

If the law of gambler is very strict about gambling to be illegal the best thing the gambling can do is to stop gambling in other not to have problems with the law or have her account freezes by bookmakers when they detect that she used VPN.
About the OP providing all data and links to social media, I will be damn if I believe all the information to be true not even not that we have some people selling ID and other private information online.

You're right, as strict regulations may overwhelm gamblers in the area one day. Forcing gambling in a place where the rules are quite vulnerable to things that eventually become an illegal act has a fairly dangerous risk for gamblers. Quitting is indeed a difficult decision, but avoiding the rules is also not a good way. Back to each other's decisions.

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Quote from: Cryptock on November 14, 2021, 03:23:24 PM

If there is someone willing to use his services, I think that he will not be contacted in public, but will do so in a private message. I don't think both of them would be so stupid to tell anyone else about their deal. If their arrangement is kept secret, I doubt they will suffer any consequences.

In my country there is a proverb - "money loves silence". This is really true and i agree with you, that OP and his potential client will not negotiate here. But i just trying to understand what advantages the client can get from such offer. For the law it looks the same, may be even the worse choice because it can add some more problems with money transfers.

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Quote from: Cryptock on November 08, 2021, 06:53:29 AM

Quote from: mak013 on November 07, 2021, 11:09:54 AM

Exactly. I can`t understand the offer. I`ve break through China firewall, i don`t think that US firewall is more powerful. And in any way i`m breaking the law of my country/state, even if the OP betting. So, i repeat - i don`t understand how such an offer can help me.

I think there is only one logical explanation. A very large number of bookmakers do not accept VPN and using it may result in blocking funds. This offer may be attractive to people who don't want to risk it.

As @Kakmakr said - when someone begin gamble outside Indiana - it becomes illegal. There is no some offer, even if OP will gamble by himself, with your instructions - getting profit will be illegal too. I think he just want to get commissions at least and your problems will be just your problems.

If there is someone willing to use his services, I think that he will not be contacted in public, but will do so in a private message. I don't think both of them would be so stupid to tell anyone else about their deal. If their arrangement is kept secret, I doubt they will suffer any consequences.

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Quote from: Cryptock on November 08, 2021, 06:53:29 AM

I think there is only one logical explanation. A very large number of bookmakers do not accept VPN and using it may result in blocking funds. This offer may be attractive to people who don't want to risk it.

- the fees he charges are high

- The service he is offering is something dangerous both for him and for the people who use it, of course to be discovered will be difficult, but it is still very risky. if the casino finds out and reports this case to the police, OP could be involved in serious problems

I do not know if it could come to that, but it is definitely something that most casinos will not allow, if you read the TOS of most casinos you will see that they are allowing you to make bets on their casino and sport book but many specify that you are the only one allowed to make those bets and not a third party.

So if they discover that you have been using your account to make bets under the instructions of someone else then most likely your account will be closed and your winnings seized.

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Quote from: Cryptock on November 08, 2021, 06:53:29 AM

Quote from: mak013 on November 07, 2021, 11:09:54 AM

Exactly. I can`t understand the offer. I`ve break through China firewall, i don`t think that US firewall is more powerful. And in any way i`m breaking the law of my country/state, even if the OP betting. So, i repeat - i don`t understand how such an offer can help me.

I think there is only one logical explanation. A very large number of bookmakers do not accept VPN and using it may result in blocking funds. This offer may be attractive to people who don't want to risk it.

As @Kakmakr said - when someone begin gamble outside Indiana - it becomes illegal. There is no some offer, even if OP will gamble by himself, with your instructions - getting profit will be illegal too. I think he just want to get commissions at least and your problems will be just your problems.

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People only have to choose between obeying their country's rules or wanting to break them, some countries can't technically reach violators to get caught. As long as they can access certain sports betting sites and anonymously, they can freely spend their money there.

So far my country has banned all forms of gambling, but I don't need a service like this to bet independently. Because at the end of the day, entrusting someone else to manage money in gambling is also illegal.

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Quote from: DaveF on November 08, 2021, 03:09:50 PM

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I doubt the OP will give you that winnings. I mean no offense to him but I have a feeling he just wanted to "offer his residency to bet on a gambling site" so if a moron actually took his offer he'll have no problem taking the money if a decent bet ever won.

the other month there was another guy who was looking for someone to bet for him using his money I think these two people are meant for each other. too bad the OP in that thread claims that he already "found" someone who would be willing to bet for him.

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Quote from: DaveF on November 08, 2021, 03:09:50 PM

And as a side note the biggest killer for the OP is going to be taxes.

I take him up on the offer. I win a large enough wager to generate a W2-G (income from gambling tax form) I take my winnings and leave. OP now has to cover a $3500 tax bill with the $3 I gave him for the bet.

There are probably dozens of other pitfalls but I see that as a big one.

-Dave

Good one!

Nobody looked at it from this side!

But actually there is one more way to control this. Simply, the winnings will come to the OP's account and will pass the amount for bettor after removing tax to itself.

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And as a side note the biggest killer for the OP is going to be taxes.

I take him up on the offer. I win a large enough wager to generate a W2-G (income from gambling tax form) I take my winnings and leave. OP now has to cover a $3500 tax bill with the $3 I gave him for the bet.

There are probably dozens of other pitfalls but I see that as a big one.

-Dave

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Quote from: Matt55317 on November 04, 2021, 04:17:19 AM

I think maybe you misunderstood. I live in Indiana where sports betting is totally legal and vets can be placed at top sports looks like Caesars , Draft kings Sports book, etc... Big legimate companies , betting is totally legal. I don't want to bet myself.
I am saying I can place wagers for other people on the reputable sites , for people that live in other places where they do not have access to legal gambling. I believe of 50 US States only 3 or 5 have legal gambling.

He doesn't misunderstand cause it doesn't make any sense for anyone whatsoever that want to gamble so bad on a certain game to give her funds to an anonymous stranger to place the bet on her behave not even now that most of the crypto gambling site we have on this forum are now adding sports game to their list.

If the law is very strict in states where gambling is illegal, someone may be afraid to bet with a VPN. If the internet provider passes the info to the police, the consequences can be very unpleasant.
The OP does not want to be anonymous because he wrote that the he will provide all data and links to social media to interested people.

If the law of gambler is very strict about gambling to be illegal the best thing the gambling can do is to stop gambling in other not to have problems with the law or have her account freezes by bookmakers when they detect that she used VPN.
About the OP providing all data and links to social media, I will be damn if I believe all the information to be true not even not that we have some people selling ID and other private information online.

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Quote from: Slow death on November 08, 2021, 08:22:58 AM

- the fees he charges are high

If someone is unable to bet at all because it is prohibited by law and has no other choice, fees may not be high.

Quote from: Slow death on November 08, 2021, 08:22:58 AM

- The service he is offering is something dangerous both for him and for the people who use it, of course to be discovered will be difficult, but it is still very risky. if the casino finds out and reports this case to the police, OP could be involved in serious problems

Here, both sides will have to trust each other. I don't think someone from outside could find out about such a deal unless they tell someone about it themselves.

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Quote from: Cryptock on November 08, 2021, 06:53:29 AM

Quote from: mak013 on November 07, 2021, 11:09:54 AM

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Quote from: mak013 on November 06, 2021, 03:21:47 PM

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Quote from: mak013 on November 06, 2021, 02:36:12 AM

I don`t see any problem to bet other gambling sites for free. Without paying someone for nothing. And one more thing: if betting in my country is illegal, gambling even in Indiana will be illegal for me too. Correct me if i`m not right, but anyway i will defy the law.

You're wrong. The point is that gambling is legal in OPs place (Indiana). In most US states, gambling is illegal regardless of the website. It's just illegal at all. The OP proposes a service that someone who lives in a place where gambling is completely illegal will be able to bet on his name. OP will register and his 'client' will be able to bet 'legally' on this account.

I understand this. It means that OP is betting in legal place. But it also means that i gives him money and get profit from gambling. And i think that it means that i defy the law just using another way. I can gamble in any crypto casino without verification and i need not to pay to someone for it.

I don't know how strict the law in the US is and what tools are used there to block access to online casinos. However, if the OP makes such an offer, then either he or she is unaware that there are casinos where you can gamble anonymously and are VPN-tolerant, or in fact the blockades of internet providers in the US are so good that you can't break through to online casinos.

Exactly. I can`t understand the offer. I`ve break through China firewall, i don`t think that US firewall is more powerful. And in any way i`m breaking the law of my country/state, even if the OP betting. So, i repeat - i don`t understand how such an offer can help me.

I think there is only one logical explanation. A very large number of bookmakers do not accept VPN and using it may result in blocking funds. This offer may be attractive to people who don't want to risk it.

- the fees he charges are high

- The service he is offering is something dangerous both for him and for the people who use it, of course to be discovered will be difficult, but it is still very risky. if the casino finds out and reports this case to the police, OP could be involved in serious problems

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Quote from: mak013 on November 06, 2021, 02:36:12 AM

I don`t see any problem to bet other gambling sites for free. Without paying someone for nothing. And one more thing: if betting in my country is illegal, gambling even in Indiana will be illegal for me too. Correct me if i`m not right, but anyway i will defy the law.

You're wrong. The point is that gambling is legal in OPs place (Indiana). In most US states, gambling is illegal regardless of the website. It's just illegal at all. The OP proposes a service that someone who lives in a place where gambling is completely illegal will be able to bet on his name. OP will register and his 'client' will be able to bet 'legally' on this account.

I understand this. It means that OP is betting in legal place. But it also means that i gives him money and get profit from gambling. And i think that it means that i defy the law just using another way. I can gamble in any crypto casino without verification and i need not to pay to someone for it.

I don't know how strict the law in the US is and what tools are used there to block access to online casinos. However, if the OP makes such an offer, then either he or she is unaware that there are casinos where you can gamble anonymously and are VPN-tolerant, or in fact the blockades of internet providers in the US are so good that you can't break through to online casinos.

Exactly. I can`t understand the offer. I`ve break through China firewall, i don`t think that US firewall is more powerful. And in any way i`m breaking the law of my country/state, even if the OP betting. So, i repeat - i don`t understand how such an offer can help me.

I think there is only one logical explanation. A very large number of bookmakers do not accept VPN and using it may result in blocking funds. This offer may be attractive to people who don't want to risk it.

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Your Indiana residency provides you legal rights to gamble in that location, but the moment when you allow other people from other States to gamble on your account, it becomes illegal. (Go read the fine print in the ToS)

Also, what happens if someone use your account to launder dirty money from Child pornography or drugs or even money derived from hacking. (They will trace it back to you... and you will be held responsible for that) Roll Eyes

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Quote from: suzanne5223 on November 07, 2021, 03:17:47 PM

Quote from: Matt55317 on November 04, 2021, 04:17:19 AM

I think maybe you misunderstood. I live in Indiana where sports betting is totally legal and vets can be placed at top sports looks like Caesars , Draft kings Sports book, etc... Big legimate companies , betting is totally legal. I don't want to bet myself.
I am saying I can place wagers for other people on the reputable sites , for people that live in other places where they do not have access to legal gambling. I believe of 50 US States only 3 or 5 have legal gambling.

He doesn't misunderstand cause it doesn't make any sense for anyone whatsoever that want to gamble so bad on a certain game to give her funds to an anonymous stranger to place the bet on her behave not even now that most of the crypto gambling site we have on this forum are now adding sports game to their list.

If the law is very strict in states where gambling is illegal, someone may be afraid to bet with a VPN. If the internet provider passes the info to the police, the consequences can be very unpleasant.
The OP does not want to be anonymous because he wrote that the he will provide all data and links to social media to interested person.

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Quote from: Matt55317 on November 04, 2021, 04:17:19 AM

I think maybe you misunderstood. I live in Indiana where sports betting is totally legal and vets can be placed at top sports looks like Caesars , Draft kings Sports book, etc... Big legimate companies , betting is totally legal. I don't want to bet myself.
I am saying I can place wagers for other people on the reputable sites , for people that live in other places where they do not have access to legal gambling. I believe of 50 US States only 3 or 5 have legal gambling.

He doesn't misunderstand cause it doesn't make any sense for anyone whatsoever that want to gamble so bad on a certain game to give her funds to an anonymous stranger to place the bet on her behave not even now that most of the crypto gambling site we have on this forum are now adding sports game to their list.

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Quote from: mak013 on November 06, 2021, 02:36:12 AM

I don`t see any problem to bet other gambling sites for free. Without paying someone for nothing. And one more thing: if betting in my country is illegal, gambling even in Indiana will be illegal for me too. Correct me if i`m not right, but anyway i will defy the law.

You're wrong. The point is that gambling is legal in OPs place (Indiana). In most US states, gambling is illegal regardless of the website. It's just illegal at all. The OP proposes a service that someone who lives in a place where gambling is completely illegal will be able to bet on his name. OP will register and his 'client' will be able to bet 'legally' on this account.

I understand this. It means that OP is betting in legal place. But it also means that i gives him money and get profit from gambling. And i think that it means that i defy the law just using another way. I can gamble in any crypto casino without verification and i need not to pay to someone for it.

I don't know how strict the law in the US is and what tools are used there to block access to online casinos. However, if the OP makes such an offer, then either he or she is unaware that there are casinos where you can gamble anonymously and are VPN-tolerant, or in fact the blockades of internet providers in the US are so good that you can't break through to online casinos.

Exactly. I can`t understand the offer. I`ve break through China firewall, i don`t think that US firewall is more powerful. And in any way i`m breaking the law of my country/state, even if the OP betting. So, i repeat - i don`t understand how such an offer can help me.

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interesting offer for me ,maybe in others similar ways that the op wants

but maybe soon i get in touch

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Quote from: mak013 on November 06, 2021, 03:21:47 PM

Quote from: Cryptock on November 06, 2021, 03:12:28 AM

Quote from: mak013 on November 06, 2021, 02:36:12 AM

I don`t see any problem to bet other gambling sites for free. Without paying someone for nothing. And one more thing: if betting in my country is illegal, gambling even in Indiana will be illegal for me too. Correct me if i`m not right, but anyway i will defy the law.

You're wrong. The point is that gambling is legal in OPs place (Indiana). In most US states, gambling is illegal regardless of the website. It's just illegal at all. The OP proposes a service that someone who lives in a place where gambling is completely illegal will be able to bet on his name. OP will register and his 'client' will be able to bet 'legally' on this account.

I understand this. It means that OP is betting in legal place. But it also means that i gives him money and get profit from gambling. And i think that it means that i defy the law just using another way. I can gamble in any crypto casino without verification and i need not to pay to someone for it.

I don't know how strict the law in the US is and what tools are used there to block access to online casinos. However, if the OP makes such an offer, then either he or she is unaware that there are casinos where you can gamble anonymously and are VPN-tolerant, or in fact the blockades of internet providers in the US are so good that you can't break through to online casinos.

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Quote from: Cryptock on November 06, 2021, 03:12:28 AM

Quote from: mak013 on November 06, 2021, 02:36:12 AM

I don`t see any problem to bet other gambling sites for free. Without paying someone for nothing. And one more thing: if betting in my country is illegal, gambling even in Indiana will be illegal for me too. Correct me if i`m not right, but anyway i will defy the law.

You're wrong. The point is that gambling is legal in OPs place (Indiana). In most US states, gambling is illegal regardless of the website. It's just illegal at all. The OP proposes a service that someone who lives in a place where gambling is completely illegal will be able to bet on his name. OP will register and his 'client' will be able to bet 'legally' on this account.

I understand this. It means that OP is betting in legal place. But it also means that i gives him money and get profit from gambling. And i think that it means that i defy the law just using another way. I can gamble in any crypto casino without verification and i need not to pay to someone for it.

Cryptock

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Quote from: mak013 on November 06, 2021, 02:36:12 AM

I don`t see any problem to bet other gambling sites for free. Without paying someone for nothing. And one more thing: if betting in my country is illegal, gambling even in Indiana will be illegal for me too. Correct me if i`m not right, but anyway i will defy the law.

You're wrong. The point is that gambling is legal in OPs place (Indiana). In most US states, gambling is illegal regardless of the website. It's just illegal at all. The OP proposes a service that someone who lives in a place where gambling is completely illegal will be able to bet on his name. OP will register and his 'client' will be able to bet 'legally' on this account.

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You may not get any potential client from this forum as members of the forum are well aware of the underlying implications of third party services that are not guaranteed by the forum, so better don't waist your time on this thread if it is that profiting why don't you bet for yourself.

mak013

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I don`t see any problem to bet other gambling sites for free. Without paying someone for nothing. And one more thing: if betting in my country is illegal, gambling even in Indiana will be illegal for me too. Correct me if i`m not right, but anyway i will defy the law.

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Quote from: FatFork on November 04, 2021, 06:59:59 AM

Quote from: Matt55317 on November 04, 2021, 06:11:15 AM

They do not have to trust any funds to me . I will set the account place the wagers and they will have total control over the account .

The truth is that no matter how well-intentioned you may be and how honest and trustworthy you claim to be, it will be difficult to prove. For one thing, when you ask for someone else's money or trust to carry out a task, it makes it very difficult to prove that it will be done in an honest and trustworthy manner.

You just joined this forum today so you are a newbie. It will be difficult to find someone who is willing to risk his money because you have nothing to lose if you decide to scam. So if you really want to succeed in your endeavor, first, you have to build your reputation, then your reputation will attract clients. Invest your time and effort in building your reputation here (it takes time). Only as a senior member will you be able to offer this type of service because then your name and your forum rank will be your guarantee.

This is the problem with this, we have seen in the forum examples of people with good reputations scamming for very small amounts of money, someone with no reputation and that has just joined the forum has nothing to lose and as such the members of the forum are not going to trust in them.

This means that even if some people could be interested in what the OP offers they are never going to get their services because as we know there are people that make huge bets, besides I do not think the OP has thought this through, if someone won big with his account he will have to pay taxes over those wins and I doubt 3 to 10 dollars is going to be enough to pay his due taxes.

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Quote from: Matt55317 on November 04, 2021, 06:11:15 AM

They do not have to trust any funds to me . I will set the account place the wagers and they will have total control over the account .

The truth is that no matter how well-intentioned you may be and how honest and trustworthy you claim to be, it will be difficult to prove. For one thing, when you ask for someone else's money or trust to carry out a task, it makes it very difficult to prove that it will be done in an honest and trustworthy manner.

You just joined this forum today so you are a newbie. It will be difficult to find someone who is willing to risk his money because you have nothing to lose if you decide to scam. So if you really want to succeed in your endeavor, first, you have to build your reputation, then your reputation will attract clients. Invest your time and effort in building your reputation here (it takes time). Only as a senior member will you be able to offer this type of service because then your name and your forum rank will be your guarantee.

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I get the point of your offered service however we are not sure whether you will bet it or run away with it, honestly it's really hard to trust anyone nowadays. Some people here doesn't just bet $10 some of them hundreds or sometimes thousands of Dollars or Euro but it's not easy to entrust your money to some stranger.

Even though this is a gambling related topic but since it is a service offering I think you should move your topic to services section.

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Quote from: Matt55317 on November 04, 2021, 06:11:15 AM

They do not have to trust any funds to me . I will set the account place the wagers and they will have total control over the account . I will just set it up see the wagers placed and charge for that service I do not expect them to give me the funds. They can place it on the app themselves and withdraw the funds themselves.i just want to make the small money per wager. And I hopel they bet and make a fortune using my account with my address.

Your only problem on this kind of business is TRUST. I fully understand the nature of your service as well as the demand on it. Actually there's a lot of people living on restricted country for gambling are breaking law just to online gambling by using VPN. The only problem was trusting you, Of course you will give the account to your customer but obviously you still have full control on it because your identity was use on creating it.

Maybe add something on your service that people will trust you like an escrow, vouch from a trusted member or build your account reputation here until you get people trust to use your service. I believe there's some user offer service like this before but all of them is low trank and no one avail there service for the particular reason above.

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They do not have to trust any funds to me . I will set the account place the wagers and they will have total control over the account . I will just set it up see the wagers placed and charge for that service I do not expect them to give me the funds. They can place it on the app themselves and withdraw the funds themselves.i just want to make the small money per wager. And I hopel they bet and make a fortune using my account with my address.

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Quote from: Matt55317 on November 04, 2021, 05:51:39 AM

I am the OP . I just want to place wagers for other people on legal gambling sites where there is no shadiness just because you live in a state where it is illegal.i just want to charge 3$ for each wager I make legally for someone who can not do it legally themselves.

We understand what you are trying to do or service that you want to run. The main problem you will face is if you can find a person who will trust their money to you even if you say you are trusted and their money is safe but it doesn't mean that the money or their crypto funds is safe that is why YOSHIE said that finding a person that will trust his/her money to you is 0% chance to none!

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I am the OP . I just want to place wagers for other people on legal gambling sites where there is no shadiness just because you live in a state where it is illegal.i just want to charge 3$ for each wager I make legally for someone who can not do it legally themselves.

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Yes, he already explained here.

Quote from: Matt55317 on November 04, 2021, 04:17:19 AM

I am saying I can place wagers for other people on the reputable sites , for people that live in other places where they do not have access to legal gambling. I believe of 50 US States only 3 or 5 have legal gambling.

It's just, I think otherwise, he wants to give money to someone else to bet for him $3-$10 per round, quite the opposite, someone else wants to bet and deposit money for him and place a bet on the OP's app.

I think the OP will never find a stupid person here, let alone give him money to bet, on a legal site in his country, no one bets money on things that are not sure, let alone gambling.

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Quote from: YOSHIE on November 04, 2021, 04:07:24 AM

You should bet for yourself, why do you bet on someone's application, this is gambling, no one guarantees you can make more than $ 10 of your capital and no one guarantees honesty in the world of gambling.

After all, there are many gambling sites (Indiana), such as: indianafarfarm.com, indiana jaya bet, indianahauntedhouses.com etc., so what name indiana do you mean, I don't know your motives and goals for placing bets on other people's gambling sites.

My advice if you are good at sports betting games, you should bet for yourself without involving other people's applications.

To tell you honestly, I am not on op's side but you misunderstood what OP wanted. Op wanted to start a service where any person who wanted to gamble but gambling on their country is illegal so Op will have to do it personally and the person who agree have the access to the account and can see of the bets are placed correctly. In short, I give you money to bet on football a total of $10 and I also have to give you $3 for betting it on my behalf. Op is trying to prove that he is to be trusted and the service he want to provide is safe and that should be our questions.

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I think maybe you misunderstood. I live in Indiana where sports betting is totally legal and vets can be placed at top sports looks like Caesars , Draft kings Sports book, etc... Big legimate companies , betting is totally legal. I don't want to bet myself.
I am saying I can place wagers for other people on the reputable sites , for people that live in other places where they do not have access to legal gambling. I believe of 50 US States only 3 or 5 have legal gambling.

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Quote from: Matt55317 on November 04, 2021, 03:37:23 AM

I live in INDIANA. It is now totally legal and legitimate to gamble on sports on some of the best sports looks on the web now, here in good ole Indiana.

You should bet for yourself, why do you bet on someone's application, this is gambling, no one guarantees you can make more than $ 10 of your capital and no one guarantees honesty in the world of gambling.

After all, there are many gambling sites (Indiana), such as: indianafarfarm.com, indiana jaya bet, indianahauntedhouses.com etc., so what name indiana do you mean, I don't know your motives and goals for placing bets on other people's gambling sites.

My advice if you are good at sports betting games, you should bet for yourself without involving other people's applications.

Matt55317

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Hello,
I live in INDIANA. It is now totally legal and legitimate to gamble on sports on some of the best sports looks on the web now, here in good ole Indiana.
I am willing to place bets on these legitimate apps of your choosing for anyone who does not have living arrangements in a legal gambling state. I am willing to do this for either 3$ per wager , or 10$ per round of wagers. For example: betting five 1:00PM NFL games would only be 10$ total instead of 15$ total at 3$ per wager. And then say you wager 6 4:00PM NFL games would be another 10$ , but if you bet three 4:00PM games that would be 9$ total. I think you get it. Very simple stuff.
You obviously would have access to the account to see all wagers placed correctly, and have the ability to cashout whenever you wanted. I am totally honest and trustworthy and we can start small and build a relationship , before you feel comfortable betting more. I am even willing to provide my personal info , Facebook page, phone number and even address to prove I'm no shady character and just looking to make some cash on the side.

PM if interested.

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