Topic: OG Nasty is a proven Liar and is scamming his club saying he pays for electric.. (Read 1684 times)

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.32677360

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Fraud by false representation

(1) A person is in breach of this section if he—

(a) dishonestly makes a false representation, and

(b) intends, by making the representation—

(i) to make a gain for himself or another, or

(ii) to cause loss to another or to expose another to a risk of loss.

(2) A representation is false if—

(a) it is untrue or misleading, and

(b) the person making it knows that it is, or might be, untrue or misleading.

(3) “Representation” means any representation as to fact or law, including a representation as to the state of mind of—

(a) the person making the representation, or

(b) any other person.

(4) A representation may be express or implied.

(5) For the purposes of this section a representation may be regarded as made if it (or anything implying it) is submitted in any form to any system or device designed to receive, convey or respond to communications (with or without human intervention).

Here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16251261 is proof in form of screenshots how OgNasty was blatant lying to TwitchySeal claiming that I have threatened him to remove the signature for the publicly proven betcoin.ag scam or otherwise I will give him a negative feedback!

The proven truth is that I gave him a negative feedback like to all the other promoters and thereafter he threatened me to remove the negative feedback or otherwise he will give me a negative feedback!

I initially posted here to support OGNasty, however he literally gave me negative trust for doing so.  So i thought i would post my reference here also:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ognasty-abuse-of-rank-to-ruin-accounts-in-good-standing-2337754

For a Donator to be conducting himself in this manner is ridiculous.  I would not trust him with jack shit now.

Talk about off-topic responses...

Nowhere as much as the funds you've self-escrowed I'm sure Quickscammer.   

How large of an extortion payment are you needing OgNasty to pay?

I have had no private interaction with mr. OgNasty for quite some time, until his PM to me. I am also not involved in any private messages that may have been exchanged during this fiasco. The only thing that I can say for sure is that you're a filthy little criminal. Think of those persistent pests that one just can't fully get rid of. That pretty much sums up your whole life. I wonder which alt will pop up next to attack someone. Gorgonzola, rottenpie, or shall we have a fresh name?

So you are saying OgNasty paid his extortion payment to you? Or are you implying that OgNasty did in fact leak TMAN's dox, as you are saying almost exactly the same thing OgNasty said in response to your allegation? Knowing that you are an extortionist the later probably fits better.

Be careful.  You're making some strong allegations which I believe are not true.  

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I'd also quote the part about damaging your rep from OgNasty's post, but you don't have one to begin with. Classic filthy scammer you are mr. QS.

It appears that you have failed to make the extortion payment to both Lauda and TMAN on a timely basis. They are trying to collect.

Lie? That's ridiculous. I stated the following:
a) You had/have his DOX.
b) Rmc had/has his DOX.
c) One of you (or someone else; see underline) has given said DOX to QS.

None of these 3 statements are a lie.

I don't have the DOX, thus I can't say anything about that, *cough*, allegation.

I wonder how many more months this powerwall installation will take. P.S. If it wasn't that obvious, I was testing whether you're going to tell the truth or not.

Given how your coin sales are going, you're the one sabotaging yourself. Constantly fighting with TMAN, and now attacking me is not exactly helping you.

More lies and boring shit from the worst businessman in bitcoin..

You really are a pretentious arse hole.. why not answer how many personal miners you have and the conflict of interest that this causes??? Is it because you own more mining equipment than the scam club??

1200w is the PSU for the D3. Get a meeter and see what it pulls retard, no machine would have a PSU with matching power draw or are you really that uneducated in power consumption??

I'm going to respond to this nonsense thread 1 last time, so I'll try and make it a good one.



You are making false allegations, as I can prove TMAN sent this information to others, who he then proceeded to have trading problems with, and your above post is a flat out lie.  Also interesting is if these dox are correct, which it sounds like they are, there is another well known account on these forums claiming that name and shipping address as their own.  Concerning is how frequently the accounts bid on each others auctions to dupe other bidders out of their BTC.  



I provide a lovely timeline of events, as well as updating a thread with any changes.  If I'm going to take the time to provide the information, you can take the time to research it instead of making claims about things you are completely ignorant.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17786689



I'm sure you did do everything you could to sabotage my advertisement and sponsorship agreements.  How's that working out so far?



QS took it upon himself to buy NastyFans seats on a public exchange, so that means everyone is connected to QS and thus you hate all of us who are part of this 500+ member strong organization?



They're actually under-estimations, but everything you say is wrong, so this should come as no surprise to anyone.  You'd think you'd know the power requirements of D3 units, considering you claim to own a few.






Here's a screenshot of solar energy production from a day this week.  It's fairly typical.  As you can see, you are once again WAY OFF with your assumptions.  This may be because you are completely ignorant when it comes to green energy, which you have no reason to be educated on the subject, so we'll say you are just misguided with your thoughts here.



As you can see, at no point does the 9.5KW rated system reach 9.5kWh of production, let alone sustain it for 12 hours...  Send SunPower your complaints.  As for the wind turbine, if you are familiar with AC/DC conversions and long distance electrical transfers, there is significant loss between what something is rated, and what it actually produces.  The wind turbine couldn't produce the rated 1.5kWh in a tornado, let alone regular conditions.  Most people aren't familiar with wind turbine production, and it's clear you didn't take the time to look at the chart of energy production I posted on my thread, but the truth is that the wind turbine produces on average about 0.5-2kWh per day, not 1.5kWh per hour for 24 straight hours.  This is due to me not living inside a tornado.  Below is an image showing some of our wind production.  This screenshot was taken before I installed a low voltage converter, so the numbers are higher now, but certainly nowhere near what you are claiming.





No, math doesn't lie.  People do.  NastyFans members trust me, and many of them know me personally, so I assume they know I care more about NastyFans than I do about whatever few dollars I would make from lying about sending units in for warranty repairs...  







Yes, A/C costs are a lot where I live.  Luckily my "shanty" as you put it has upgraded insulation, low-e windows, and a secondary air circulation system that helps significantly cut cooling costs.  Since I live in a 2-story home with multiple air conditioning zones, I allow the upstairs to get very hot during the day for typical living conditions, which saves on electricity at the cost of my own convenience.  I also have a very low energy television, and CFL lighting throughout my home.



I agree.  That is why NastyFans seat owners have never paid 1 penny in electrical costs or for green energy equipment.  Not a single cent, ever.  



Now you're attacking Americans?  Let me know how that works out for you...



Ironically, you have been claiming to post personal information and now you're lying.  Is stealing next for you?  I can prove you're lying, but while outing your alt and proving Lauda is wrong about his allegations, it would also expose another person who could have potentially doxxed you, and I don't want to start dragging other people into your endless trolling.  

Bob I like the cut of your jib... what do you think of OG??

Coming from: "Gayest Black Cowboy on BitcoinTalk / Power-Top".

The people being chosen there each election are run by the same men in suits. The american people just like kool-aid too much (see iTrash fans as an example) to wake up. However, this is not the place to discuss that.

Trump 

Thats cos QS is stupido! same as OG.. like I wouldn't remember, oh.. and the fact that QS didn't believe I was no longer in the UK?? how else could he of known...

so OG handing over Dox... lying.. next will be stealing...

Good point. I wonder what that tells us about the people still choosing to get involved with him.

Stereotypes put aside, nothing. Was just wondering how QS, Rmc and Og all seems to be american.

Hey Cody... you know thinking about this if you want my dox Ill give them to you.. all it will take is for you to book a ticket to Bulgaria from North Carolina- ill pick you up at the airport, show you about and introduce you to some great people..

Even better all you will need is a one way ticket.. its cheap as fuck man and you may love it here.

Edit:  This thread has already taken up too much time. 

Self-explanatory answer. Don't act innocent given what you say behind closed doors. Remember, they're not as closed as you think. Hypocrite.

Yet you answer, yet you care. Pathetic.

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Is everyone mentioned here American? Interesting.

I guess the issue is me not being trustworthy anymore, i guess I had no idea that the great Lauda had deemed me as being not worthy of being trusted.   Oh, that's right, I don't care what Lauda thinks.

OK peeps... to the math again..

1x Bitmain R4   pulls  800/900w
1x Bitmain L3+ pulls  800/900w
1x Bitmain D3   pulls  - 1000w

above are over estimations, not that I want to but as OG is a Legendary member, Forum treasurer and a top 3 escrow I need to give him benefit of the doubt...

so the solar gives him 9.5kWh for 14 hours a day at the moment.. lets take that down to 12.. so to halve that for an 24 hour average he gets 4.75kWh of free electricity from just the solar.. plus an additional 1.5kWh 24*7 for the turbine.. bringing in a total of 6.25kWh... and the above miners are pulling 2.8kWh from the wall....

so once again OG, as the math doesn't lie - how many personal miners are you running? how do seat owners like myself know that you are batting straight and the damaged S9 isn't one of your own personal machines??

and if you just post a screen shot of your electric bill this month you will prove how retarded you truly are..

you have a house in the desert - this requires A/C.... this costs money
you have a house that needs light, power for the TV, Power to recharge your flesh light or whatever else you use now she is gone..
You have multiple personal miners going
the PC you type to us on needs power...

all of the above are your own responsibility and not the fanclubs....

I am not making any allegations. I am listing the only possible options as to how QS might have acquired such a piece of information.

No? How many months have passed?

Which is bullshit. If you fail to clarify what you're using, any "research" will lead to false conclusions.

You should reevaluate your surroundings; it is statements like these that are dragging both of you down.

The person positioned higher than myself in the G-ecosystem is very well aware of what I think of the dispute between you two including the NastyXY projects/products. Your post is pretty much "Everything is wrong; insert ad hominem x 3".

You had access to the information, and you aren't exactly trustworthy anymore. Those two would be my guess. Getting to this conclusion should have been pretty trivial; I have no idea why you're having trouble with it.

The connection between seat members are the seats, some of which QS owns.

Ok, so I will re work the math when I am back at my desk.. it will still prove you are having a personal net gain.. those miners use 3.6kWh max.. you have 11kWh for 14hrs a day and 1.5kWh 24/7.. based on that you are still lying and you won't answer how many personal miners you have running.. your integrity is in question here due to a simple lie..

Obviously you are missing something. 

Why would I even be suspected of such a thing to begin with.   I have never done or said anything that would even remotely suggest that I would give up someone's personal information.  Not to mention I have been nothing but respectful and have repeatedly said that I want everyone to just stop the bickering.   

Also, how do I get grouped in with QS, I've literally talked to him a handful of times.

I would request by all parties to be left out of this.   Instead of finding out from someone else that my name was mentioned in a thread for potentially giving up someone's personal information, I would prefer people with problems would just PM me.

I don't have time for this shit.  I don't have a full year to spend arguing. 

Be careful.  You're making some strong allegations which I believe are not true. 



No, I do not have a powerwall yet.  It is still awaiting permits, so ~12 hours a day we're operating almost 100% off the grid's energy.  I also don't have the bike yet, nor are we only running the equipment stated by TMAN.  Not to mention I can't "steal power from seat members" when seats in no way pay for any electricity.  Electricity has always been 100% paid for by me, including the purchase of my solar panels.  The whole allegation makes no sense.  The only thing TMAN does know, is that I'm still paying $400+ per month on electricity out of my pocket.  Nearly everything he says is incorrect which you backup without hesitation or doing any research or even bothering to ask me, then hide behind statements like, "unless I have read something incorrectly."  That's how you ruin your reputation.

Not to mention how you're constantly badmouthing an organization sponsored by your signature advertiser and how irresponsible that makes you look as a campaign manager/advertising partner.

It's either you, OgNasty or you have a traitor in your group. Pick the least evil option. QS made a dumb move there.

Until people behave as they're supposed to, nothing is going to stop. This is complete bullshit coming from you given your statements in the past in your "small group" or whatever you guys call that clusterfuck. Hypocrites left and right from the collectibles section (&& QS and co.).

Which part exactly is a lie in this thread? Do you have the Tesla powerwall and other mentioned devices for generating power or not?

So you used Cyrus reaching out and me being the bigger person as a reason to attack me with another neg... sounds like trust abuse to me.  Add that to the lies you tell about paying for the miners electric bills... you aren't very trustworthy any more are you??

My statement about the free electricity is true. Backed by simple math, everything that comes out of your mouth is horse shit.. I tried to resolve this and you used it as a method to attack my trust rating.. totally pathetic for a veteran member and the lies are not something any of us would expect from a DT member who also holds forum funds....

You can say what you want but you wanted this to continue on.. so here we are and here we will continue to be. I tried to be the bigger man once..

FTFY

Yet here you are, still trolling my threads and making scam and rep threads about me filled with lies.  That's not how you restore your trust.

Totally agree fella, Cyrus even reached out to ask us to stop. So I PM,d OG a week later to try to resolve, offered to remove all posts and remove all the negative trust if he would do the same.. guess what mr persecution complex did.. left another neg and posted the PM..

Not how a DT member should really act, now with the blatant lie and passing on dox....  well you can see that lots of people have had enough of OG and I am sure plenty of people have had enough of me posting about it all. 

Ok, for the record, this is all too tiring.  Can we all just stop?   I understand you don't like og, but if everyone could ignore each other I think it would be a great benefit instead of constant bickering back and forth.  We all used to do business back and forth on a regular basis, and we had lots of conversations about our personal life and became relatively friendly.   

I really am trying my best to not be involved.  I honestly wish this would go away. I find myself on the forum quite A bit less than I used to, partially because of all the fighting.  There has to be a more constructive way to handle issues than all of this. 

Nope I apologise RMC.. OG has that name himself, so he is passing on names as well as lying..

Sincerely I am sorry for bringing your name into this

Uh...yep.  Yes, you did.  I read the whole thread, which was filled up with your denials
and excuses.

OGNasty, to answer the original question, holds funds for this forum (apparently) because it's a
 private forum and theymos trusts him.  Unless you're a large donator, I don't see why that's an
issue.  It's not my drama here so I'm not taking any sides on this one and haven't looked any
deeper than TMAN's claims.  Sounds like there's some validity to his claim tho.

I wouldn't give out someones information.  So I'm not sure why my name is even being mentioned.  

he doesn't have my full dox.. He got that Via OG nasty and RMC.... to an address in a country I no longer live in..

no drama for me bud, and even if he did - what could he do? leave his basement to ask his mums permission to leave the house?

So, i have a feeling that you are implying something here-> Do you have dox or are onto doxxing Mr TMAN?
@TMAN i fear someone is quicker than you, earlier you told that you are onto doxxing QS but it is taking sometime as QS use multiple layers of OPSEC.
Watching how this trio will end up...

ha ha ha.... nice one Cody Black...

Ignore the facts and just swap dox with the old nasty ponzi crew...

Alright Mr Mansoor, whatever you say.

you scammed, you are a scammer - no need to go over old ground... this is the new scammer.. He lies, so therefore he scamms....

its amazing that he wont answer a simple question about how many personal miners he has running at that location...  the same location that he initially said he pays for all the power at.. then changed the story to

3) Our green energy production still requires me to subsidize our electrical usage out of my own pocket. I’m happy to do it, because I enjoy the friends I’ve made and I believe in our future.


that's where his lie was caught.. I did the simple math to prove he is a liar.. if he lies about that - how do we know he is not lying about the miners going pop?? are they his personal ones or are they the clubs?

don't you see - tangled webs get unwoven!!!

Did he get them for free?

Did I scam anyone? How much was stolen?

Doesn't matter. He sold seats that he got for free to pay for the solar.. and has stated numerous times that he still pays out of pocket.

Hence OG is a proven liar.. so he is a scammer just like you..

You got kicked off DT for scamming so should OG.. liars like you two cannot be trusted with other people's funds

How much exactly are seat members paying for electricity?

nope - he is a liar... he lied today... so lets think about this, how many other lies have not been caught? how many other sneeky actions have gone unnoticed?

like the dead miner... how do we know it was a club miner and not one of his own? he has a conflict of interest with personal and club miners running in the same location..

now his integrity is in question, how do we know that he isn't pushing for as much personal gain as possible?

Watching. The math does not add up to his prior statements (of paying electricity out of own pocket?), unless I have read something incorrectly.

http://archive.is/0uuRB

as the link above shows, Matthew proclaims to be paying out of pocket for the scamclub still... but... the math proves him wrong..

Post #3738 is the one that is relevant for the math #3733 for the LIE...

he then deletes his own posts to make it look like I am attacking him, when in fact I am only trying to highlight his scammy ways...

why is this man still allowed to hold forum funds? why do people still trust him as an escrow?  at least the public are fighting back with the BTC they still hold.... Silver coin sales down.... seat prices down... and even his Mrs left him...