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Topic: OKpays.com offers Exchange Service for PayPal, Payoneer, Visa/Mastercard, Wise (Read 143 times)

newbie
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Mы paды cooбщить вaм, чтo PayPal cнoвa дocтyпeн пo cнижeнным тapифaм c бoнycoм 4%.
Дeлaйтe зaявки нa oбмeн и пoлyчaйтe бoнyc 4%.
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We are glad to let you know that PayPal available again at discounted rates with 4% bonus.
Make your exchange orders and enjoy the 4% bonus.

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newbie
Activity: 13
Merit: 0

For example: A wire transfer may require receiver ID proof to show to Bank or processor banking partner, aren't your data protected with the bank or banking partner processor? If you think so then I think you didn't provided your identification information to the bank.

The policy made to simplify the service not to complicated discussion. Thanks for your opinions.
No, it is not protected!! I believe that my data in the bank is not protected. It is true that, as you say, no one can view it, but when necessary, this data is given to any government employee, so it cannot be said that it is protected.
The concept of protection differs between centralized and decentralized services. Do not forget that you are in the Bitcoin forum, which believes in decentralization and privacy in the first place and gives it the utmost importance, so you see that most of the questions revolve around these points.

The policy made to simplify the service not to complicated discussion. Thanks for your opinions.
Yes, the policy made to simplify the understanding of the service, but you should not be disturbed by the discussion. Agreeing to the terms of service without reading and discussing them is what leads to the emergence of problems and disputes later.

However, if you are bothered by the discussion, you can simply lock the thread.
@yhiaali3 , Thanks for your feedback. All centralized exchange service required to follow regulation. If you want anonymity and use scansions or high risk funds then unfortunately our service is not suitable for you.
legendary
Activity: 1666
Merit: 1836
#SWGT CERTIK Audited

For example: A wire transfer may require receiver ID proof to show to Bank or processor banking partner, aren't your data protected with the bank or banking partner processor? If you think so then I think you didn't provided your identification information to the bank.

The policy made to simplify the service not to complicated discussion. Thanks for your opinions.
No, it is not protected!! I believe that my data in the bank is not protected. It is true that, as you say, no one can view it, but when necessary, this data is given to any government employee, so it cannot be said that it is protected.
The concept of protection differs between centralized and decentralized services. Do not forget that you are in the Bitcoin forum, which believes in decentralization and privacy in the first place and gives it the utmost importance, so you see that most of the questions revolve around these points.

The policy made to simplify the service not to complicated discussion. Thanks for your opinions.
Yes, the policy made to simplify the understanding of the service, but you should not be disturbed by the discussion. Agreeing to the terms of service without reading and discussing them is what leads to the emergence of problems and disputes later.

However, if you are bothered by the discussion, you can simply lock the thread.
newbie
Activity: 13
Merit: 0
According to the AML/KYC Policy for OKpays.com:
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5.3. OKpays.com reserves the right to verify a user’s identity on an ongoing basis, especially if their identification information has changed or their activity seems unusual or suspicious. The company may also request up-to-date documents from users, even if they have been authenticated in the past.
This item would not be recommended by many users because firstly the right to verify the identity of the user continuously and secondly that you can simply freeze the account if you consider the activity unusual or suspicious? What criteria do you use to determine if user activity is unusual or suspicious?

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5.4. User identification information will be collected, stored, shared, and protected strictly in accordance with OKpays.com’s Privacy Policy and related rules.
Well I don't see this as appropriate at all, "User identification information will be collected, stored, shared, and protected strictly"? How do you share and protect it at the same time???!!! Who will this information be shared with?

@yhiaali3, Thank you for your comment. unusual or suspicious depends on many security factor. Every company has their some kind of own internal system to prevent fraud orders, suspicious orders. if you have company then you already knew it. if you don't own or works in a finance related company you don't know it. It's simple.

Identity information information is always stored in secured system which can't be accessible by companies normal employees. It can be access by the employee who is well trained on this matter for verification purpose only. For example: A wire transfer may require receiver ID proof to show to Bank or processor banking partner, aren't your data protected with the bank or banking partner processor? If you think so then I think you didn't provided your identification information to the bank.

The policy made to simplify the service not to complicated discussion. Thanks for your opinions.
legendary
Activity: 1666
Merit: 1836
#SWGT CERTIK Audited
According to the AML/KYC Policy for OKpays.com:
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5.3. OKpays.com reserves the right to verify a user’s identity on an ongoing basis, especially if their identification information has changed or their activity seems unusual or suspicious. The company may also request up-to-date documents from users, even if they have been authenticated in the past.
This item would not be recommended by many users because firstly the right to verify the identity of the user continuously and secondly that you can simply freeze the account if you consider the activity unusual or suspicious? What criteria do you use to determine if user activity is unusual or suspicious?

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5.4. User identification information will be collected, stored, shared, and protected strictly in accordance with OKpays.com’s Privacy Policy and related rules.
Well I don't see this as appropriate at all, "User identification information will be collected, stored, shared, and protected strictly"? How do you share and protect it at the same time???!!! Who will this information be shared with?
newbie
Activity: 13
Merit: 0
You can enter any word as Bitcoin wallet address. Because Bitcoin wallet address now depends on many types. Such as Starting with 3, 1, bc (SegWit new (bech32), SegWit old (P2SH)). We tried some checker system, but some wallet types address shows invalid even it was a valid wallet address. that's why we removed the checker system.
there is no SegWit old  and all bitcoin address type is

  • p2tr (last one)
  • p2pkh
  • p2sh
  • p2wsh
  • p2wpkh

You can use this code https://github.com/ruigomeseu/bitcoin-address-validation/blob/master/src/index.ts
It gives you the basis to validator bitcoin addresses and if you need Node.js this code will work https://github.com/aditioan/crypto-address-validator

removing the checker system will increase the pressure on the support team and may mean a delay or loss of money if the transactions are done automatically.
@Yamane_Keto, You are wrong. SegWit old still exist. It's still available https://prnt.sc/auujBaP0DXGq .

We haven't received any cases like this before. yes sometimes user enter their email as bitcoin by mistake (not intentionally). so whenever they contacted with us then it always resolved in short time.

For your better understanding look at this screenshot. one of the top exchanger https://prnt.sc/M-xrORuzfb8R . Entering a random wallet is always works on almost major exchangers website.
sr. member
Activity: 406
Merit: 443
You can enter any word as Bitcoin wallet address. Because Bitcoin wallet address now depends on many types. Such as Starting with 3, 1, bc (SegWit new (bech32), SegWit old (P2SH)). We tried some checker system, but some wallet types address shows invalid even it was a valid wallet address. that's why we removed the checker system.
there is no SegWit old  and all bitcoin address type is

  • p2tr (last one)
  • p2pkh
  • p2sh
  • p2wsh
  • p2wpkh

You can use this code https://github.com/ruigomeseu/bitcoin-address-validation/blob/master/src/index.ts
It gives you the basis to validator bitcoin addresses and if you need Node.js this code will work https://github.com/aditioan/crypto-address-validator

removing the checker system will increase the pressure on the support team and may mean a delay or loss of money if the transactions are done automatically.
newbie
Activity: 13
Merit: 0
I want to exchange BTC to LTC but I got this error.
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Error! The direction do not exist

then tried another exchange, but when I want to convert between two cryptocurrencies, the word Into account appears instead of crypto address.
I entered a random text as bitcoin address, and my bitcoin address has been accepted.

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/08/16/MXGP5.png

I have stopped trying the service, if your service accepts any random text as a bitcoin address then it is difficult to trust it.
@Yamane_Keto, BTC to LTC direction is not added yet.

You can enter any word as Bitcoin wallet address. Because Bitcoin wallet address now depends on many types. Such as Starting with 3, 1, bc (SegWit new (bech32), SegWit old (P2SH)). We tried some checker system, but some wallet types address shows invalid even it was a valid wallet address. that's why we removed the checker system.
On the other hand, if you enter a wrong crypto wallet address, it won't complete the order, it will result failed. So you can contact with our support to fix the wallet address. You are fully responsible to enter the valid account details during create order request.
sr. member
Activity: 406
Merit: 443
I want to exchange BTC to LTC but I got this error.
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Error! The direction do not exist

then tried another exchange, but when I want to convert between two cryptocurrencies, the word Into account appears instead of crypto address.
I entered a random text as bitcoin address, and my bitcoin address has been accepted.



I have stopped trying the service, if your service accepts any random text as a bitcoin address then it is difficult to trust it.
newbie
Activity: 13
Merit: 0
Well, in conclusion you leave the handling of verification to a third party which is independent from your company, right?

It can't be refund or process as It's not credited to our account.
I don't really understand the fund that isn't credited to your account, how does that happen? Does the deposit address or account mean that it isn't yours/not controlled by you? Who freezed user funds in this case?
You claim exchange will go automatically.
@rat03gopoh, No, We conduct verification ourselves. At first our team will verify the documents. in case if require it may be share with the financial institute or crypto exchange or gateway to get release the funds with maintain confidentiality.

Suppose if you receive to a licensed crypto gateway (Managed wallet) and if it's frozen for AML checking. then you will need to verify your source of fund. But when user exchanging on our website , primarily they do not require any documents. That's why if any transaction frozen due to AML check then it will require ID proof doc and proof of funds. This mechanism require to comply with regulatory requirement, Money laundering law,  sanctioned requirement.

Deposited balance are in our control. Not the wallet addresses. Managed Crypto gateway are always works like this. In that case you may be suggest to use own unmanaged wallet, so it will require us to AML check for every transaction even for $10 or $10K. The AML checking cost is much higher, you may check AMLbot or similar service price.

while transaction are AML blockage procedure, it will be like this in the crypto acceptance wallet system: https://prnt.sc/n1IF4ylQ29TO . Also it won't move the fund from the crypto wallet until verify done: https://prnt.sc/CBHYwRWlvLBN . this is a proof that money is not credited to our crypto acceptance wallet and didn't used.

All exchange orders will be process as usually normally automatically or semi-automatically unless sender funds frozen for AML check.
hero member
Activity: 2002
Merit: 633
Your keys, your responsibility
Well, in conclusion you leave the handling of verification to a third party which is independent from your company, right?

It can't be refund or process as It's not credited to our account.
I don't really understand the fund that isn't credited to your account, how does that happen? Does the deposit address or account mean that it isn't yours/not controlled by you? Who freezed user funds in this case?
You claim exchange will go automatically.
newbie
Activity: 13
Merit: 0
@PX-Z, Please note that, ours is okpays.com not okpay.com . Thank you
There is so much similarities in the domains. This is not good for business as just omitting letter 's' will take you to another domain. It seems that Okpay is older than okpays, why didn't you choose another domain or another extension like, .io, .org etc
It's nice to know that exchange business is still lucrative. New people are joining the competition, I thought the trend shifted to mixing services.
@KingsDen, Glad to hear your opinion. So far we did researched okpay was a gateway and they closed/merged their business. In the other hand  .io, .org domains are not good for SEO as same word matching .com domain name run same business. We tried to choose a simple and easy rememberable domain name to make an exchanger brand.
Thank you.
legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1022
Hello Leo! You can still win.
@PX-Z, Please note that, ours is okpays.com not okpay.com . Thank you
There is so much similarities in the domains. This is not good for business as just omitting letter 's' will take you to another domain. It seems that Okpay is older than okpays, why didn't you choose another domain or another extension like, .io, .org etc
It's nice to know that exchange business is still lucrative. New people are joining the competition, I thought the trend shifted to mixing services.
newbie
Activity: 13
Merit: 0
Right, there's no info about them on bestchange site except for OKpay.com not Okpays.com (OP), which probably listed way back before but now the site is not working anymore
This triggered me to dig further, and I am amazed by the number of sites that look like Okpays.com, some with domain names older than Okpays and legitimate partnerships with Best Change. I am not sure how these guys do it. Perhaps there's some common customizable script they are using. In my opinion, I would not be comfortable using such an exchanger

1. https://leoexchanger.top
2. https://exwm.cc/en
3. https://paytiz.com
4. https://autopay.exchange
This triggered me to dig further, and I am amazed by the number of sites that look like Okpays.com, some with domain names older than Okpays and legitimate partnerships with Best Change. I am not sure how these guys do it. Perhaps there's some common customizable script they are using. In my opinion, I would not be comfortable using such an exchanger.
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Now with those the same templates, this really looks suspicious. Especially those legit bestchange partnered sites. I know buying exchange script will be cheaper than building it from scratch. But building a legit business with a ready-to-go exchange script? it's a no-no for me.
@Bitcoin_Arena , @PX-Z , Actually more than 50% website created using one or another ready made script. It's also because of having lots of feature at reasonable price. You may know mine.exchange one of popular and big exchange. They also using ready made script, It's just made some changes in the homepage.
Thank you for your positive opinions. We will also work on it to make some changes in the homepage design that may looks some uniqueness and differ that other ready made script using exchangers.
newbie
Activity: 13
Merit: 0
I see a Bestchange banner on your website where you claim they are one of your partners, but I don't see any official news about your partnership nor your exchanger appearing on the Best Change exchange monitor.
Why are you doing this?
Right, there's no info about them on bestchange site except for OKpay.com not Okpays.com (OP), which probably listed way back before but now the site is not working anymore
@PX-Z, Please note that, ours is okpays.com not okpay.com . Thank you
newbie
Activity: 13
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I see a Bestchange banner on your website where you claim they are one of your partners, but I don't see any official news about your partnership nor your exchanger appearing on the Best Change exchange monitor.
Why are you doing this?
@Bitcoin_Arena, I'm not sure if you are employee of Bestchange or not (I could see Bestchange logo in your profile). If you are then you may know that we recently submitted to list our website. If you not from Bestchange, As per their requirements we must have to place their logo in our website main page. They are reviewing our application and they sent us some guidelines to follow, then they will re-check again after few days. That's why bestchange logo is placed on our website main page footer.

https://www.bestchange.ru/wiki/add.html#:~:text=On%20the%20main%20page%20of%20the%20site%2C%20a%20button%20or%20monitoring%20logo
newbie
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I see you got a negative review, curious how that happened and was resolved. https://glazok.org/exchange/?details=1141

I am also interested in asking for further clarification regarding the rules for additional verification of sources of funds.
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5.7. OKpays.com is required to verify the source of funds or cryptocurrencies to ensure that the sources of funds used by users for trading are legal.
https://okpays.com/amlkyc-policy/
What kind of document could you potentially request if it were in crypto? Some of the cases where customers are unable to provide this verification are because they have to include transactions made many years ago, which is impossible to provide details for various plausible reasons.
@rat03gopoh, We also saw this false claim negative review. We couldn't able to identify the users details as it doesn't show us to view user email. We already sent an email to the glazok.org admin regarding this and waiting for their reply.

Regarding AML/KYC, All of our crypto transaction checked by the Exchange Service AML. Sanctioned, High risk gambling more than 69% risk level are automatically block. As per exchange service rules it's require to provide identify docs and provide source of fund document. So far I seen they even accept a chat dialogue between clients or sender about this transfer.
and without documents the transaction remain block/frozen status in the exchange service, It can't be refund or process as It's not credited to our account.
hero member
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This triggered me to dig further, and I am amazed by the number of sites that look like Okpays.com, some with domain names older than Okpays and legitimate partnerships with Best Change. I am not sure how these guys do it. Perhaps there's some common customizable script they are using. In my opinion, I would not be comfortable using such an exchanger.
...
Now with those the same templates, this really looks suspicious. Especially those legit bestchange partnered sites. I know buying exchange script will be cheaper than building it from scratch. But building a legit business with a ready-to-go exchange script? it's a no-no for me.
copper member
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Merit: 1783
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Right, there's no info about them on bestchange site except for OKpay.com not Okpays.com (OP), which probably listed way back before but now the site is not working anymore
This triggered me to dig further, and I am amazed by the number of sites that look like Okpays.com, some with domain names older than Okpays and legitimate partnerships with Best Change. I am not sure how these guys do it. Perhaps there's some common customizable script they are using. In my opinion, I would not be comfortable using such an exchanger

1. https://leoexchanger.top
2. https://exwm.cc/en
3. https://paytiz.com
4. https://autopay.exchange
hero member
Activity: 1414
Merit: 802
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I see a Bestchange banner on your website where you claim they are one of your partners, but I don't see any official news about your partnership nor your exchanger appearing on the Best Change exchange monitor.
Why are you doing this?
Right, there's no info about them on bestchange site except for OKpay.com not Okpays.com (OP), which probably listed way back before but now the site is not working anymore
copper member
Activity: 2016
Merit: 1783
฿itcoin for all, All for ฿itcoin.
I see a Bestchange banner on your website where you claim they are one of your partners, but I don't see any official news about your partnership nor your exchanger appearing on the Best Change exchange monitor.
Why are you doing this?
hero member
Activity: 2002
Merit: 633
Your keys, your responsibility
I see you got a negative review, curious how that happened and was resolved. https://glazok.org/exchange/?details=1141

I am also interested in asking for further clarification regarding the rules for additional verification of sources of funds.
Quote
5.7. OKpays.com is required to verify the source of funds or cryptocurrencies to ensure that the sources of funds used by users for trading are legal.
https://okpays.com/amlkyc-policy/
What kind of document could you potentially request if it were in crypto? Some of the cases where customers are unable to provide this verification are because they have to include transactions made many years ago, which is impossible to provide details for various plausible reasons.
newbie
Activity: 13
Merit: 0
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Mы пpeдлaгaeм cлeдyющиe пpeимyщecтвa и гapaнтии:

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Mы пpeдлaгaeм cлeдyющиe oнлaйн-ycлyги:

Bывoд вaлют нa бaнкoвcкиe кapты, тaкиe кaк:

  • VISA
  • Mastercard


Bывoд вaлют из элeктpoнныx плaтeжныx cиcтeм, тaкиx кaк:

  • PayPal
  • Payoneer
  • Perfect Money
  • Payeer
  • WebMoney
  • Wise

Oбмeнник OKpays.com paбoтaeт c cлeдyющими бaнкaми:

  • Eвpoпeйcкиe бaнки для SEPA-пepeвoдoв
  • USD-бaнк для SWIFT-пepeвoдoв


Haш aвтoмaтичecкий и пoлyaвтoмaтичecкий oбмeн paбoтaeт кpyглocyтoчнo, a вывoды oбычнo выпoлняютcя в тeчeниe 15-60 минyт. Oднaкo нeкoтopыe нaпpaвлeния oбмeнa мoгyт зaнять oт 15 минyт дo 24 paбoчиx чacoв в зaвиcимocти oт cиcтeмы oплaты.

 

Кoнтaкты:

OKpays.com

Элeктpoннaя пoчтa: [email protected]
Telegram: https://t.me/OKpays_support
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newbie
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OKpays.com is an online crypto and currency exchanger. We have been operating privately for more than a year and have completed over 10,000 orders. We are now open to all users.

 

We offer the following benefits and guarantees:

  • Exchange facility available for as low as $5.
  • All gateway reserves available.
  • More than 100 exchange directions.
  • Best exchange rate compared to other exchangers.
  • Exchange service and servers are protected with SSL.
  • 99% of orders are processed within 24 hours.
  • Affiliate program available.
  • We work 7 days a week, including weekends.
  • Live chat support available.
  • Advanced support ticket system available.
  • Well-trained support managers and finance team.
  • Live chat support available in multiple languages, including English, Russian, French, Spanish, and Turkish.




We offer the following online services:
Withdrawal of currencies to bank cards such as:
  • VISA
  • Mastercard


Withdrawal of currencies from electronic payment systems such as:

  • PayPal
  • Payoneer
  • Perfect Money
  • Payeer
  • WebMoney
  • Wise
  • Skrill

OKpays.com exchanger works with the following banks:

  • European banks for SEPA transfer
  • USD bank for Swift transfer


Cryptocurrency and stablecoin:

  • BTC Bitcoin
  • Ethereum
  • Litecoin
  • Tether USDT

Our automatic and semi-automatic exchange works around the clock, and withdrawals are usually carried out within 15-60 minutes. However, some exchange directions may take between 15 minutes to 24 working hours depending on the payment system.

 

Contacts:

Website: OKpays.com

Email: [email protected]
Telegram: https://t.me/OKpays_support
Online Live Chat
Support Ticket


Please note that we do not accept any orders through social channel. Please do not add contacts by search. But visit our website and then click from the website.

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