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newbie
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November 05, 2017, 06:51:15 AM
#14
Hi, guys!
This is an old thread, all questions will be answered here. See you there Wink
newbie
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November 04, 2017, 11:35:23 AM
#13
Nice to know you are working on whitepaper, and hopefully expecting good job.
sr. member
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Hail Eris!
November 04, 2017, 11:24:29 AM
#12
Hi! Thank you for interesting in our platform. We are preparing a whitepaper and other promo-materials it will be available in a week.
To be short. We'll use different types of machine learning: artificial neural networks, deep learning, data mining, etc. We will analyse not only history of price movement, but also a hole bunch of other parameters for fundamental analysis.

If you like you can check our site: www.data-trading.com
It's in development now, in a week it will be updated with whitepaper and other materials.

Deep learning is really hot right now and has a lot of potential though has its downfalls such as model interpretability given the complexity of the resulting models and takes a lot of training data before you get decent classification and prediction accuracy.

We agree that you will definitely need to analyze more than the history of price movement. Algorithmic traders moved beyond price history analysis decades ago and to keep up you will have to as well. The efficient market hypothesis is somewhat relevant.  Feature generation is one of the most critical parts of the data mining process as it leads to more information (you can have an awesome machine learning algorithm which fails to produce good results if given the wrong features).  Lately I have seen people on the crypto scene using GitHub indicators (for example if a project posts an update), detecting trends in sentiment on Twitter and in forum threads, and so on. To get an advantage you want to be a first mover and use features others aren't or use them in a new way.  One critical feature involves 'shilling detection' as the detection of shilling would make some features irrelevant. 

For classification (such as classifying a price increase as a pump or natural growth or classifying coins into 'winners' and 'losers') I would really like to see 'gradient boosted decision tree induction' as one of the available classification algorithms.  It is really neat and has replaced random forests as my favorite.  It deals with things like overfitting rather well though has a number of benefits which will help when classifying new unknowns.  As for numeric time series prediction make sure you give due diligence to recurrent networks.  They 'remember' thus can find patterns within long sequences of temporal data.

blahblahblah.  Just really like data mining.  Good luck and I hope you are not scammers.  While most projects like this are sure to fail we gain a lot from the attempts.  I will be checking in on you guys to make sure there is nothing shady going on.

I see you address some of these things in the whitepaper.  LSTM cells would be great!   I do have a few concerns about the scope and feasibility of the project.  As it is machine learning and AI is used extensively in algorithmic trading and adapts rather fast.  You need to construct a platform which allows for quick adaptation.

On a side note - it would be really neat to incentivize hand labeling and tagging of data points.  One problems with machine learning is a lack of labeled training data.  I like unsupervised and semi supervised learning but supervised learning is just so powerful.   Tokens could be provided to people though you would want to establish some sort of expert ranking based on how accurate they are.
sr. member
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Hail Eris!
November 04, 2017, 10:40:36 AM
#11
Hi! Thank you for interesting in our platform. We are preparing a whitepaper and other promo-materials it will be available in a week.
To be short. We'll use different types of machine learning: artificial neural networks, deep learning, data mining, etc. We will analyse not only history of price movement, but also a hole bunch of other parameters for fundamental analysis.

If you like you can check our site: www.data-trading.com
It's in development now, in a week it will be updated with whitepaper and other materials.

Deep learning is really hot right now and has a lot of potential though has its downfalls such as model interpretability given the complexity of the resulting models and takes a lot of training data before you get decent classification and prediction accuracy.

We agree that you will definitely need to analyze more than the history of price movement. Algorithmic traders moved beyond price history analysis decades ago and to keep up you will have to as well. The efficient market hypothesis is somewhat relevant.  Feature generation is one of the most critical parts of the data mining process as it leads to more information (you can have an awesome machine learning algorithm which fails to produce good results if given the wrong features).  Lately I have seen people on the crypto scene using GitHub indicators (for example if a project posts an update), detecting trends in sentiment on Twitter and in forum threads, and so on. To get an advantage you want to be a first mover and use features others aren't or use them in a new way.  One critical feature involves 'shilling detection' as the detection of shilling would make some features irrelevant. 

For classification (such as classifying a price increase as a pump or natural growth or classifying coins into 'winners' and 'losers') I would really like to see 'gradient boosted decision tree induction' as one of the available classification algorithms.  It is really neat and has replaced random forests as my favorite.  It deals with things like overfitting rather well though has a number of benefits which will help when classifying new unknowns.  As for numeric time series prediction make sure you give due diligence to recurrent networks.  They 'remember' thus can find patterns within long sequences of temporal data.

blahblahblah.  Just really like data mining.  Good luck and I hope you are not scammers.  While most projects like this are sure to fail we gain a lot from the attempts.  I will be checking in on you guys to make sure there is nothing shady going on.
full member
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November 04, 2017, 10:02:32 AM
#10
pre ico and ico price is same 0.1 usd
newbie
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November 04, 2017, 04:59:40 AM
#9
Hello!

This is an old topic about DataTrading, an innovative project in the world of trade forecasting.

Visit our new bitcointalk discussion on https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.23405463

newbie
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October 15, 2017, 06:52:19 AM
#8
verb
Yes, I agree, there are other good project that try to forecast stock markets, but as l know none of them use artificial intelligence. If I am wrong, please name such project.

And yes, I'm agree with rijaljun, competition is good for market: it makes products better and cheaper.
newbie
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October 15, 2017, 06:33:48 AM
#7
rijaljun
Yes, our team is working on this project for two years. We have developed a module for analysis of the market of CO2 quotas and has integrated it as a plug-in for Bloomberg Terminal.
Now we are building a universal platform that can forecast any market (for example, stock exchange or cryptocurrencies exchange). And moreover, we don't want just to develop that platform, we want that everyone can develop it's own models of machine learning on this platform (we call it 'open constructor of machine learning' that will be an essential part of our platform), so not just our expertise will make value of a platform forecasting, but anyone who is expert in machine learning an AI.
sr. member
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October 14, 2017, 03:40:25 PM
#6
a lot of similar projects have launched or are launching. none of witch seems to finds the success they propagate. what makes this one a winner?

The higher competiton, the higher quality of its platform. Of course, the winner will be the most inovative which is the most profitable for the most users.


I love the most  Grin Grin Grin Grin
sr. member
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Merit: 250
October 14, 2017, 02:59:15 PM
#5
a lot of similar projects have launched or are launching. none of witch seems to finds the success they propagate. what makes this one a winner?
sr. member
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October 14, 2017, 02:56:26 PM
#4
Seems this project is built by well-experienced team. Perhaps, I can help to make a post within graphics since you have to be at least Jr.Member to show any images. Cheers!
newbie
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October 14, 2017, 09:31:33 AM
#3
Hi! Thank you for interesting in our platform. We are preparing a whitepaper and other promo-materials it will be available in a week.
To be short. We'll use different types of machine learning: artificial neural networks, deep learning, data mining, etc. We will analyse not only history of price movement, but also a hole bunch of other parameters for fundamental analysis.

If you like you can check our site: www.data-trading.com
It's in development now, in a week it will be updated with whitepaper and other materials.
full member
Activity: 152
Merit: 100
October 12, 2017, 02:26:30 AM
#2
DataTrading is a platform based on artificial intelligence for analytics and forecasting of exchange markets with open development modules, accessible to each user of the community.

AI is good idea , since its everywhere now.. can you put some more details or on the AI side how it would be helpful data trading/
newbie
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October 11, 2017, 10:13:59 AM
#1
Pls follow the New ANN Thread to check our project.

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