There was a little buzz going to the fight because there were no trash talks both, fighters were civil to each other but it became controversial because of the supposed and debated punch by Dubois, The boxing community is divided on this issue.
Usyk's future opponents will target his body because he was exposed by Dubois and the opposing camp will have to check Usyk's protective belt because many thought in Dubois's fight that Usyk's protective belt was placed too high.
Overall it was a good fight We got what we expected both fighters came to fight, It's controversial but it invites a lot of discussion.
I'm locking this thread who knows maybe they meet again in the future if that happens there will be a lot of adjustments in both camps.
Topic: Oleksandr Usyk VS Daniel Dubois For The Undisputed heavyweight champion (Read 453 times)
August 28, 2023, 06:12:04 PM
August 28, 2023, 02:58:00 PM
I don’t think it was a low blow. The rules state anything at the navel or above is a legal shot & I believe it was. It was a legitimate body shot, Usyk was hurt and faked a low blow. It’s gamesmanship, borderline cheating but it is what it is. Winners will do whatever they can to win.
Dubois was effectively robbed of a win and a place as a world champion. The fight just further convinces me that Usyk is a cruiserweight fighting at heavyweight. Tyson Fury is going to destroy him when they meet.
Dubois was effectively robbed of a win and a place as a world champion. The fight just further convinces me that Usyk is a cruiserweight fighting at heavyweight. Tyson Fury is going to destroy him when they meet.
https://youtu.be/a85RLi8XMmE?si=Lgj6x0Luq4eiFSZc
Here is a video where Usyk shows where his navel is.
https://streamable.com/naf2mz
Here is the video of the blow. It seems obvious to me that the blow hits the area where the abdominal muscles already narrow into the groin area and this is exactly below the navel.
In general, it is rather strange to talk about a robbery when one of the boxers was completely declassed and lost by knockout, based on one dirty blow.
We’ll agree to disagree, not a low blow imo.
https://youtube.com/shorts/kVsPTjpEHqI?si=G9wZqUkK2wN6_YDb
August 28, 2023, 02:52:20 PM
Definitely one of the best fights in the recent months, despite that controversy. IMO a judge's mistake should be re-watched during the rest of the fight and used to change points before the end of the game. I can't believe in a fight of this level they were able to let it slip.
Congratulations to Usyk because he was fighting well, but could've at least lost points in that knockdown if not for the judge's mistake. Maybe they were trying to be more compassionate towards Ukraine's current situation and ready to let some mistakes slip? Who knows...
Congratulations to Usyk because he was fighting well, but could've at least lost points in that knockdown if not for the judge's mistake. Maybe they were trying to be more compassionate towards Ukraine's current situation and ready to let some mistakes slip? Who knows...
August 28, 2023, 02:42:36 PM
I don’t think it was a low blow. The rules state anything at the navel or above is a legal shot & I believe it was. It was a legitimate body shot, Usyk was hurt and faked a low blow. It’s gamesmanship, borderline cheating but it is what it is. Winners will do whatever they can to win.
Dubois was effectively robbed of a win and a place as a world champion. The fight just further convinces me that Usyk is a cruiserweight fighting at heavyweight. Tyson Fury is going to destroy him when they meet.
Dubois was effectively robbed of a win and a place as a world champion. The fight just further convinces me that Usyk is a cruiserweight fighting at heavyweight. Tyson Fury is going to destroy him when they meet.
https://youtu.be/a85RLi8XMmE?si=Lgj6x0Luq4eiFSZc
Here is a video where Usyk shows where his navel is.
https://streamable.com/naf2mz
Here is the video of the blow. It seems obvious to me that the blow hits the area where the abdominal muscles already narrow into the groin area and this is exactly below the navel.
In general, it is rather strange to talk about a robbery when one of the boxers was completely declassed and lost by knockout, based on one dirty blow.
With how things went on this match, we can expect that Dubois' camp may ask for a re-match with Usyk.
This controversy won't just die down without getting a solid confirmation that Usyk really wins over Dubois.
Some individuals like Frank Warren (English promoter) are even calling this match as a "no contest" and ask for a rematch.
But with such controversy, this will be a good marketing propaganda to gain high interest from the boxing fans.
They can even earn huge purse split if they will make their re-match happen and capitalize this major controversy.
Let us see how both camps will react on this matter and if they are up to this request from the community.
August 28, 2023, 12:11:55 PM
I don’t think it was a low blow. The rules state anything at the navel or above is a legal shot & I believe it was. It was a legitimate body shot, Usyk was hurt and faked a low blow. It’s gamesmanship, borderline cheating but it is what it is. Winners will do whatever they can to win.
Dubois was effectively robbed of a win and a place as a world champion. The fight just further convinces me that Usyk is a cruiserweight fighting at heavyweight. Tyson Fury is going to destroy him when they meet.
Dubois was effectively robbed of a win and a place as a world champion. The fight just further convinces me that Usyk is a cruiserweight fighting at heavyweight. Tyson Fury is going to destroy him when they meet.
https://youtu.be/a85RLi8XMmE?si=Lgj6x0Luq4eiFSZc
Here is a video where Usyk shows where his navel is.
https://streamable.com/naf2mz
Here is the video of the blow. It seems obvious to me that the blow hits the area where the abdominal muscles already narrow into the groin area and this is exactly below the navel.
In general, it is rather strange to talk about a robbery when one of the boxers was completely declassed and lost by knockout, based on one dirty blow.
August 28, 2023, 10:49:14 AM
I don’t think it was a low blow. The rules state anything at the navel or above is a legal shot & I believe it was. It was a legitimate body shot, Usyk was hurt and faked a low blow. It’s gamesmanship, borderline cheating but it is what it is. Winners will do whatever they can to win.
Dubois was effectively robbed of a win and a place as a world champion. The fight just further convinces me that Usyk is a cruiserweight fighting at heavyweight. Tyson Fury is going to destroy him when they meet.
Dubois was effectively robbed of a win and a place as a world champion. The fight just further convinces me that Usyk is a cruiserweight fighting at heavyweight. Tyson Fury is going to destroy him when they meet.
August 28, 2023, 10:11:07 AM
However, this wasnt an impressive win. Usyk should crack such nuts as Dubois easily. Insteas he let everyone to feel questionable about his supremacy after a knockdown from Dubois. Like Ive said, even that Dubois lost, he has made a good overall impression, showed everyone who he is. And he is still young for heavyweights. If Usyk felt lots of pain after that Dubois strike, how did he planned to survive against Fury? Fury would be faster, stronger and experienced.
We are all left speculating whether can Usyk get up from that body punch if the referee counted here is his answer if the referee happens to count
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Do you believe that Usyk can still get up after that body punch or he is just acting when he lies on the floor, judging from his face he is really hurt but he may he get up because of the chants of his fellow Ukrainian.
It's not a liver punch where you are rendered motionless and cannot breathe but since this is a stomach punch there is a chance that he can get up, Added to the debate is can he still get up with that punch.
August 28, 2023, 09:47:21 AM
However, this wasnt an impressive win. Usyk should crack such nuts as Dubois easily. Insteas he let everyone to feel questionable about his supremacy after a knockdown from Dubois. Like Ive said, even that Dubois lost, he has made a good overall impression, showed everyone who he is. And he is still young for heavyweights. If Usyk felt lots of pain after that Dubois strike, how did he planned to survive against Fury? Fury would be faster, stronger and experienced.
August 27, 2023, 03:18:52 PM
Dubois' team going to appeal that low blow but it is also unlikely that they would win there. It's quite controversial for sure as it kind of hit the cup and the belt from the best angle I've seen so far https://streamable.com/naf2mz It's in slowmo and zoomed so easier to pause at the point of contact.
Many people write that the punch was according to the rules, because if the belt from the underpants covers the belly button of the athlete, then you can hit on the belt on which Dubois hit. On the video you can see that the blow was on the waist, and not below (although from Usyk's reaction you can't say so), so the blow was made according to the rules and it was possible to open the report. Although Usyk probably would have gotten up faster and there would have been no victory, but still Dubois had a bad feeling after this match. Nevertheless, Usyk would have won on points and probably he would have deserved the final victory.
All punches below the navel are illegal. Given the fact that the area of the boxing glove is quite large, I do not see what can be argued about. For some reason, I remember blows to the liver that led to a knockdown (for example, Gasiev knocked down Povetkin with such a blow), but I don’t remember a single blow to the press that would lead to such consequences - if something like that happened, it was below the belt . It's good that Usyk completely declassed Dubois and naturally knocked him out. This is an undeniable victory, and all the talk about referee error in my opinion is just the opinion of the haters.
August 27, 2023, 12:25:37 PM
Dubois' team going to appeal that low blow but it is also unlikely that they would win there. It's quite controversial for sure as it kind of hit the cup and the belt from the best angle I've seen so far https://streamable.com/naf2mz It's in slowmo and zoomed so easier to pause at the point of contact.
Many people write that the punch was according to the rules, because if the belt from the underpants covers the belly button of the athlete, then you can hit on the belt on which Dubois hit. On the video you can see that the blow was on the waist, and not below (although from Usyk's reaction you can't say so), so the blow was made according to the rules and it was possible to open the report. Although Usyk probably would have gotten up faster and there would have been no victory, but still Dubois had a bad feeling after this match. Nevertheless, Usyk would have won on points and probably he would have deserved the final victory.
August 27, 2023, 11:17:17 AM
Dubois' team going to appeal that low blow but it is also unlikely that they would win there. It's quite controversial for sure as it kind of hit the cup and the belt from the best angle I've seen so far https://streamable.com/naf2mz It's in slowmo and zoomed so easier to pause at the point of contact.
It has the best angle so far with over 65000 views, This has become a very popular topic in the boxing community and it divides the community, They may not win the appeal but they have to make a stand that the referee made a grave error ruling it a low blow when it's not, the referee cannot argue about the angle because it happens in front of him.
I would like to read the referee's opinion on his decision I'm sure he will defend it but let's see how he will defend it if he talks about this issue
August 27, 2023, 10:06:23 AM
Dubois' team going to appeal that low blow but it is also unlikely that they would win there. It's quite controversial for sure as it kind of hit the cup and the belt from the best angle I've seen so far https://streamable.com/naf2mz It's in slowmo and zoomed so easier to pause at the point of contact.
August 27, 2023, 08:27:21 AM
On the other hard, IBF already mandated a fight with Filip Hrgovic as Usyk's mandatory. So let's see what will be the next move of Usyk as it is been speculated that he will fight Tyson Fury next for unification at HW.
And the blame here should be with referee Luis Pabon. Because as per Usyk, there is no controversy whatsoever, he won by knockout in his mind.
The fight is indeed controversial but since Usyk is holding multiple titles I doubt that all the boxing organizations will agree to a rematch, especially now that Usyk has a mandatory challenger in Hrgovic, Even if Usyk wants Fury next he should have to dispose of Hrgovic first.
I never expected the fight to end like this I know that Dubois is a hard puncher and can pull out an upset but not something like this, I feel the referee was pressured because the fight is on Usyk's territory his decision could have been different if it held in a neutral ground.
I think though if the fight is going to be Fury, then unforunately for Filip Hrgovic he could be bypass by the organizations. We all know how corrupt this bodies is, so for sure they can do that as they have been doing this for years. Like Spence who had a mandatory fight, but they skip it so that they can set up a unification fight with Crawford.
But if by any chance the Fury fight didn't materialized, then he can still go back and fight his mandatory in Filip Hrgovic. So we will see how everything holds right now, I'm thinking though that if Fury won his bout as well, we will see them clash December or early next year for their own version of unification.
August 27, 2023, 08:05:00 AM
On the other hard, IBF already mandated a fight with Filip Hrgovic as Usyk's mandatory. So let's see what will be the next move of Usyk as it is been speculated that he will fight Tyson Fury next for unification at HW.
And the blame here should be with referee Luis Pabon. Because as per Usyk, there is no controversy whatsoever, he won by knockout in his mind.
The fight is indeed controversial but since Usyk is holding multiple titles I doubt that all the boxing organizations will agree to a rematch, especially now that Usyk has a mandatory challenger in Hrgovic, Even if Usyk wants Fury next he should have to dispose of Hrgovic first.
I never expected the fight to end like this I know that Dubois is a hard puncher and can pull out an upset but not something like this, I feel the referee was pressured because the fight is on Usyk's territory his decision could have been different if it held in a neutral ground.
August 27, 2023, 07:01:08 AM
Dubois's punch in the 5th round has become very controversial some say that it is an illegal punch or a low blow but the majority of boxers, and expert trainers think it's a legal punch and there was a robbery.
CHAMPIONS React to Oleksandr Usyk LOW BLOW or Clean BodyShot K.O. & Referee ROBBING Daniel Dubois
The referee of this match is Luis Pabon https://boxrec.com/en/referee/401173 who happens to be a referee of 548 bouts if there is a rematch ordered by the boxing organizations then we can conclude that it's a legal punch that needs to be corrected but if there is an order from the boxing organizations then everybody can move forward.
For the record, it was not Usyk's fault it was the referee's judgment if the punch was deemed legal by the experts.
I just wonder if there will be a protest if the referee rules it as a legal punch and because of this Usyk lost all his titles There could be pandemonium in the venue.
CHAMPIONS React to Oleksandr Usyk LOW BLOW or Clean BodyShot K.O. & Referee ROBBING Daniel Dubois
The referee of this match is Luis Pabon https://boxrec.com/en/referee/401173 who happens to be a referee of 548 bouts if there is a rematch ordered by the boxing organizations then we can conclude that it's a legal punch that needs to be corrected but if there is an order from the boxing organizations then everybody can move forward.
For the record, it was not Usyk's fault it was the referee's judgment if the punch was deemed legal by the experts.
I just wonder if there will be a protest if the referee rules it as a legal punch and because of this Usyk lost all his titles There could be pandemonium in the venue.
In the post fight interview, Dubois is calling for a rematch. I think that is the best thing he can do right now, but not sure if there is such one in their contract. But in any case if he doesn't and Usyk says no to a rematch, then he can't do anything.
On the other hard, IBF already mandated a fight with Filip Hrgovic as Usyk's mandatory. So let's see what will be the next move of Usyk as it is been speculated that he will fight Tyson Fury next for unification at HW.
And the blame here should be with referee Luis Pabon. Because as per Usyk, there is no controversy whatsoever, he won by knockout in his mind.
August 27, 2023, 06:46:03 AM
Dubois's punch in the 5th round has become very controversial some say that it is an illegal punch or a low blow but the majority of boxers, and expert trainers think it's a legal punch and there was a robbery.
CHAMPIONS React to Oleksandr Usyk LOW BLOW or Clean BodyShot K.O. & Referee ROBBING Daniel Dubois
The referee of this match is Luis Pabon https://boxrec.com/en/referee/401173 who happens to be a referee of 548 bouts if there is a rematch ordered by the boxing organizations then we can conclude that it's a legal punch that needs to be corrected but if there is an order from the boxing organizations then everybody can move forward.
For the record, it was not Usyk's fault it was the referee's judgment if the punch was deemed legal by the experts.
I just wonder if there will be a protest if the referee rules it as a legal punch and because of this Usyk lost all his titles There could be pandemonium in the venue.
CHAMPIONS React to Oleksandr Usyk LOW BLOW or Clean BodyShot K.O. & Referee ROBBING Daniel Dubois
The referee of this match is Luis Pabon https://boxrec.com/en/referee/401173 who happens to be a referee of 548 bouts if there is a rematch ordered by the boxing organizations then we can conclude that it's a legal punch that needs to be corrected but if there is an order from the boxing organizations then everybody can move forward.
For the record, it was not Usyk's fault it was the referee's judgment if the punch was deemed legal by the experts.
I just wonder if there will be a protest if the referee rules it as a legal punch and because of this Usyk lost all his titles There could be pandemonium in the venue.
August 27, 2023, 05:56:22 AM
I voted for Daniel Dubois after the fight by knockout as a protest against this crime in this very corrupt sport of boxing hehehe. In my own mind, Usyk is presently not the champion anymore. Similar to what I have been telling everyone before, much of these boxing events have become something similar to scamcoin ICOs where the issuer hypes and then dumps his tokens on his own community. This is a scam. Boxing promoters are taking your money by promoting these low quality fights and they have already paid the judges and the referee to make sure they know the winner.
It was manipulated.
Before this fight, there is a hype on the Internet. There are cool videos made by professional editors, which resemble the plot of a Hollywood movie about how fighters prepare for battle. It looks like it's the last fight of their lives. I watched such a video about the battle between Oleksandr Usyk and Daniel Dubois for 40 minutes. And they made such a buzz that even I wanted to watch this fight.It was manipulated.
I had similar thoughts that the fights could be rigged. But I estimate the probability of this as low, but this idea can't be discarded. In fact, in boxing, making a fake fight is much easier than in the UFC. In the modern world of deceit and big money, this is not so difficult to do. But let's remember what the odds were before the fight. There was a very small coefficient for Usyk's victory and they wouldn't have been able to earn much on such a fight. A lot of money is made on sensations and if Dubois won, then the probability of a rigged match would be high.
August 27, 2023, 05:12:35 AM
The body punch happens right in front of the referee and yet he rules it as a low blow, The referee has a problem with his eyes it's clearly landed in the belt which is still considered a legal blow, if it landed below the belt which is the rule then it's an illegal blow.
I don't think Usyk can get up with that kind of punch its clear that he is gasping for air because it's a solid punch in the midsection its a clear robbery perpetrated by the referee Larry Fabon.
https://youtu.be/KObdZ8UUCM8?si=4T6Zkn3XYnDPA7Qs&t=523
I don't think Usyk can get up with that kind of punch its clear that he is gasping for air because it's a solid punch in the midsection its a clear robbery perpetrated by the referee Larry Fabon.
https://youtu.be/KObdZ8UUCM8?si=4T6Zkn3XYnDPA7Qs&t=523
Yes, it seems to be in the line, and should not be treated as below the belt. And with that, it's very clear that Usyk will have to win this fight even if the referee needs to do something in his favour and that's what exactly happened in this fight.
He should at least let the fight go and count Usyk in the floor for 8 counts. And if he can get up then Dubois could have been the winner. Nevertheless, Usyk recovered because he was given a full 5 minutes to recover and then Dubois wasn't able to do anything about that as Usyk takes over with his jab and right hand and score a knockout win.
August 27, 2023, 01:43:53 AM
The body punch happens right in front of the referee and yet he rules it as a low blow, The referee has a problem with his eyes it's clearly landed in the belt which is still considered a legal blow, if it landed below the belt which is the rule then it's an illegal blow.
I don't think Usyk can get up with that kind of punch its clear that he is gasping for air because it's a solid punch in the midsection its a clear robbery perpetrated by the referee Larry Fabon.
https://youtu.be/KObdZ8UUCM8?si=4T6Zkn3XYnDPA7Qs&t=523
I don't think Usyk can get up with that kind of punch its clear that he is gasping for air because it's a solid punch in the midsection its a clear robbery perpetrated by the referee Larry Fabon.
https://youtu.be/KObdZ8UUCM8?si=4T6Zkn3XYnDPA7Qs&t=523
With the whole match being fought in Poland it was already quite favoured for Usyk and now this controversy with the low blow really made it feel not right. Dubois was the weaker boxer on the day, but still this shouldn't have been counted as a low blow. Everybody could see it touched the belt, but not went below it. It might be hard to see it in detail right at the moment, but there are so many cameras watching the fight that it shouldn't be a dispute. And now it’s just back to smack talking between the two boxers. A rematch seems unlikely at the moment and they question is also what would change with that. It's one thing to land a fight ending blow during the first match, and something completely different to go down in the 9th round. To me it seems questionable after yesterday that Dubois would win the rematch.
August 27, 2023, 12:39:07 AM
The body punch happens right in front of the referee and yet he rules it as a low blow, The referee has a problem with his eyes it's clearly landed in the belt which is still considered a legal blow, if it landed below the belt which is the rule then it's an illegal blow.
I don't think Usyk can get up with that kind of punch its clear that he is gasping for air because it's a solid punch in the midsection its a clear robbery perpetrated by the referee Larry Fabon.
https://youtu.be/KObdZ8UUCM8?si=4T6Zkn3XYnDPA7Qs&t=523
I don't think Usyk can get up with that kind of punch its clear that he is gasping for air because it's a solid punch in the midsection its a clear robbery perpetrated by the referee Larry Fabon.
https://youtu.be/KObdZ8UUCM8?si=4T6Zkn3XYnDPA7Qs&t=523
August 26, 2023, 11:08:22 PM
It's a bit controversial though, whether it was a low ball or not, that is the big question. And then he gave Usyk all the time in the world to recover from that. And it seems that Dubois exposed Usyk weaknesses, that is the body shot and clearly whenever Dubois clips his in the side he will always look at the referee as if to tell that it's another low ball which clearly it's not.
So I guess Tyson Fury will have to do his side and beat Francis N. next fight so that they can all set up a mega fight in Saudi Arabia as what Eddie Hearn has been telling us. Wilder vs AJ, and then Usyk vs Fury.
So I guess Tyson Fury will have to do his side and beat Francis N. next fight so that they can all set up a mega fight in Saudi Arabia as what Eddie Hearn has been telling us. Wilder vs AJ, and then Usyk vs Fury.
It's not a controversial blow it's a borderline punch based on this angle it's not a low blow and when you say below the belt it should be below the belt based on all the screenshots of this tweet it really is a legal punch, I remember one referee saying before the fight if it's on the belt it's legal and anything below it it's illegal,
Dubois has a claim for the title I don't think Usyk can get up on time if it is ruled a legal blow, obviously, the referee is partial to Usyk based on his action in the ring
https://twitter.com/DanCanobbio/status/1695558685546729545
But that is the point of contention here right? so if you says that it is not a low blow but the referee calls it like that then it's a controversial isn't it? And that's what probably the Dubois camp is claiming, it's not a low blow and so it could be considered a knockout and then Dubois can pounce Usyk that time. But the referee considered it a low blow and then allowed Usyk to recover from that. So yeah, it could be that Usyk is really set up to win here and maybe the referee is part of it and as what others have said, it's very corrupt practice by governing bodies in boxing.
August 26, 2023, 11:02:47 PM
It's a bit controversial though, whether it was a low ball or not, that is the big question. And then he gave Usyk all the time in the world to recover from that. And it seems that Dubois exposed Usyk weaknesses, that is the body shot and clearly whenever Dubois clips his in the side he will always look at the referee as if to tell that it's another low ball which clearly it's not.
So I guess Tyson Fury will have to do his side and beat Francis N. next fight so that they can all set up a mega fight in Saudi Arabia as what Eddie Hearn has been telling us. Wilder vs AJ, and then Usyk vs Fury.
So I guess Tyson Fury will have to do his side and beat Francis N. next fight so that they can all set up a mega fight in Saudi Arabia as what Eddie Hearn has been telling us. Wilder vs AJ, and then Usyk vs Fury.
It's not a controversial blow it's a borderline punch based on this angle it's not a low blow and when you say below the belt it should be below the belt based on all the screenshots of this tweet it really is a legal punch, I remember one referee saying before the fight if it's on the belt it's legal and anything below it it's illegal,
Dubois has a claim for the title I don't think Usyk can get up on time if it is ruled a legal blow, obviously, the referee is partial to Usyk based on his action in the ring
https://twitter.com/DanCanobbio/status/1695558685546729545
August 26, 2023, 10:14:57 PM
It's a bit controversial though, whether it was a low ball or not, that is the big question. And then he gave Usyk all the time in the world to recover from that. And it seems that Dubois exposed Usyk weaknesses, that is the body shot and clearly whenever Dubois clips his in the side he will always look at the referee as if to tell that it's another low ball which clearly it's not.
So I guess Tyson Fury will have to do his side and beat Francis N. next fight so that they can all set up a mega fight in Saudi Arabia as what Eddie Hearn has been telling us. Wilder vs AJ, and then Usyk vs Fury.
So I guess Tyson Fury will have to do his side and beat Francis N. next fight so that they can all set up a mega fight in Saudi Arabia as what Eddie Hearn has been telling us. Wilder vs AJ, and then Usyk vs Fury.
August 26, 2023, 09:34:04 PM
I won't go as far as saying everything's planned and that Usyk will have to be the winner whatever it takes, but it was certainly a robbery. This does not necessarily represent the entire sport of boxing or of the promoters involved, but I am a little bit shocked at the referee's incompetence despite him being on the job for a long time. He's been a referee for around 30 years and yet he couldn't tell whether that was a low blow or not. It was clearly not a low blow. Usyk mentioned about not hitting balls in boxing. That was very far from the balls; that was right on the belly.
It is unfair to just call for a rematch. This should rather be declared a no contest.
It is unfair to just call for a rematch. This should rather be declared a no contest.
August 26, 2023, 08:40:26 PM
I voted for Daniel Dubois after the fight by knockout as a protest against this crime in this very corrupt sport of boxing hehehe. In my own mind, Usyk is presently not the champion anymore. Similar to what I have been telling everyone before, much of these boxing events have become something similar to scamcoin ICOs where the issuer hypes and then dumps his tokens on his own community. This is a scam. Boxing promoters are taking your money by promoting these low quality fights and they have already paid the judges and the referee to make sure they know the winner.
It was manipulated.
It was manipulated.
August 26, 2023, 06:41:21 PM
I don't think it was corrupt but it didn't look like a low blow to me. Looks like boxing might need VAR now. They should probably just rematch it. There will be enough time to fit it in before the end of the year as Fury is fighting Ngannou so makes sense to do that whilst they wait for Fury to be free which wont be until next year most likely.
There is really no excuses that can be made for this behavior from the referee. It wasn't just this knockdown that he got wrong. The entire fight he was very clearly on Usyk's side. For what reason do you need to break the action after almost every hard body shot Usyk takes and give him time to recover? The referee's actions were deliberate, it wasn't just a bad night or human error. A rematch can't really undo the damage done. Dubois took some unnecessary punishment and his already diminished confidence will decrease further.
August 26, 2023, 06:20:29 PM
Usyk won the fight but I honestly can't give him much credit. That was one of the most blatantly corrupt performances by a referee I have ever seen. Any good body shot that Dubois landed was called low and this scumbag ref would break the fight so Usyk could recover. The shot that dropped Usyk was a legal blow on the belt line and should have ended the fight, instead Usyk gets 5 minutes to recover. This disgusting referee should be banned for life but will instead likely be given more high profile opportunities as it's obvious that protecting the media darling from Ukraine at all costs was his intended job and he did it perfectly.
I replayed it several times and it was indeed in the beltline so it's a legal blow but we cannot see it because of the camera angle, should have been a TKO it's a controversial fight for me, if this fight happened in other ground it should have been ended right there, its indeed bias referee we have there, but Dubois shows heart it's just the accumulation of those sharp jabs that broke Dubois determination.
I like to see Usyk winning but not this way, maybe if Dubois's team complaint there could be a rematch but we are all waiting for the belt unification between Usyk and Fury and hopefully that will happen after Fury's fight if he wins against Ngannou.
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August 26, 2023, 05:58:06 PM
Usyk won the fight but I honestly can't give him much credit. That was one of the most blatantly corrupt performances by a referee I have ever seen. Any good body shot that Dubois landed was called low and this scumbag ref would break the fight so Usyk could recover. The shot that dropped Usyk was a legal blow on the belt line and should have ended the fight, instead Usyk gets 5 minutes to recover. This disgusting referee should be banned for life but will instead likely be given more high profile opportunities as it's obvious that protecting the media darling from Ukraine at all costs was his intended job and he did it perfectly.
I don't think it was corrupt but it didn't look like a low blow to me. Looks like boxing might need VAR now. They should probably just rematch it. There will be enough time to fit it in before the end of the year as Fury is fighting Ngannou so makes sense to do that whilst they wait for Fury to be free which wont be until next year most likely.
August 26, 2023, 05:37:35 PM
Everyone is waiting for the Fury vs Usyk match,
This will be one of the greatest fights ever, two top fighters in the ring will make the decision of who will win the fight tougher to decide. I am with Fury in this fight knowing that he is a great fighter who can rise up to any occasion. This is fight that has been talked about for very long time and is expected to be very entertaining to every lover of boxing. If I will bet in this game, I will bet on Fury to win, because of the level of believe I have for him. Usyk is a great fighter, but like I said, I am with Usyk in this fight. August 26, 2023, 05:27:23 PM
Usyk won the fight but I honestly can't give him much credit. That was one of the most blatantly corrupt performances by a referee I have ever seen. Any good body shot that Dubois landed was called low and this scumbag ref would break the fight so Usyk could recover. The shot that dropped Usyk was a legal blow on the belt line and should have ended the fight, instead Usyk gets 5 minutes to recover. This disgusting referee should be banned for life but will instead likely be given more high profile opportunities as it's obvious that protecting the media darling from Ukraine at all costs was his intended job and he did it perfectly.
August 26, 2023, 05:15:47 PM
Everyone is waiting for the Fury vs Usyk match, so normally there hasn't been much interest in this match. Wasn't this match arranged or they just met face to face. They said they would arrange it after Tyson Fury, Dereck Chisora match The Fury-Usyk match, which will be a show scheduled for 2024, are both the best in heavyweight. They both have different abilities as heavyweights, it is very curious what kind of duel it will be. Both are much faster for their weight especially Usyk is not like a typical heavyweight but heavyweight in strength and speed.
usyk has the advantage over dubois, so more then likely he will emerge victorious on this one. and fury would be next. so a lot are hoping that usyk will come out as a winner on this fight. he is heavily favourite on this match over dubois. if nothing else, dubois can get a good exposure on this fight.
August 26, 2023, 04:11:34 PM
Everyone is waiting for the Fury vs Usyk match, so normally there hasn't been much interest in this match. Wasn't this match arranged or they just met face to face. They said they would arrange it after Tyson Fury, Dereck Chisora match The Fury-Usyk match, which will be a show scheduled for 2024, are both the best in heavyweight. They both have different abilities as heavyweights, it is very curious what kind of duel it will be. Both are much faster for their weight especially Usyk is not like a typical heavyweight but heavyweight in strength and speed.
August 26, 2023, 03:53:32 PM
Getting close to the main event now, Usyk is going to dominate. I think Usyk to knock Dubois out in the first 5 rounds. I just don’t see Usyk losing this fight, he’s not a typical heavyweight but he’s just too good.
What we really want to see though is Fury vs Usyk. Hopefully Usyk does his part of what’s required and finishes the job here tonight so we are one step closer to Fury vs Usyk.
What we really want to see though is Fury vs Usyk. Hopefully Usyk does his part of what’s required and finishes the job here tonight so we are one step closer to Fury vs Usyk.
August 26, 2023, 02:49:20 PM
While many think that this fight has no sense and Usyk victory is not a matter of question, for Dubois, even if he looses, that is a huge step in heavyweight boxing division. He hasnt faced opponent of such level before. For him it is a huge risk and a huge challenge. Even in case of a lose, he gains experience and sing his name in a boxing history. For many boxing fans, he was a no-name. Even if he looses, people will start to recognize him.
That's one of the perks Dubois can get from this fight even if he loses this one.
Usyk is a heavy favorite and if you happen to bet on Dubois for possible upset, you can get about 7.4x of your money.
That is, if Dubois will have a surprise move that can knock out Usyk. Otherwise, Usyk has upper-hand on this match.
But few hours and we will see the action on this one. We may even see what's happening on its early rounds.
This will be a good one to watch out though. There are so many belts on the line.
August 26, 2023, 02:06:23 PM
Here are the official weigh-in and final face-off of Usyk and Dubois both fighters did not give more information about their strategy for the fight both are confident that they are going to win the match, Dubois should be motivated more he is in a lion's den come fight now, the crowd will be cheering for Usyk, we are all expecting a great and action-packed fight.
Usyk is the heavy favorite to win the fight, Dubois's only chance is the early rounds As the fight progresses Usyk's skill and experience will play a big factor. he has a long experience in championship fights.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ku0kNOV34E
Usyk is the heavy favorite to win the fight, Dubois's only chance is the early rounds As the fight progresses Usyk's skill and experience will play a big factor. he has a long experience in championship fights.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ku0kNOV34E
Or he got lucky and knockout Usyk in the early to middle rounds. But if this goes to distance, the experience of Usyk will come into play and maybe we will see Dubois getting tired from running around.
Although the fight might be in neutral grounds for Usyk, but I do agree that he has the crowd behind him. He mostly fought in Poland so he has a fan based on that country. And besides there are a lot of Ukrainians in that country if I'm not mistaken after the war has broke out, for asylum and obviously they don't want to get out and be safe.
August 26, 2023, 08:37:43 AM
Here are the official weigh-in and final face-off of Usyk and Dubois both fighters did not give more information about their strategy for the fight both are confident that they are going to win the match, Dubois should be motivated more he is in a lion's den come fight now, the crowd will be cheering for Usyk, we are all expecting a great and action-packed fight.
Usyk is the heavy favorite to win the fight, Dubois's only chance is the early rounds As the fight progresses Usyk's skill and experience will play a big factor. he has a long experience in championship fights.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ku0kNOV34E
Usyk is the heavy favorite to win the fight, Dubois's only chance is the early rounds As the fight progresses Usyk's skill and experience will play a big factor. he has a long experience in championship fights.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ku0kNOV34E
August 25, 2023, 03:58:30 PM
It's more on logic if Usyk beats Joshua who is also a hard puncher with a good also a good knockout percentage then they figure that Usyk can withstand Dubois' power, and of course, it helps that the fight will be held in Poland where there are many Ukrainian migrated, so it Usyk is fighting in his hometown and Dubois has no prior experience where he fought on enemy territories.
Dubois is facing a big challenge, I hope Dubois's leg is okay now he suffered three knockdowns because of his leg cramps in round one but managed to comeback to knock out Lerena
Here's a video of that fight :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZ7MCCgf8NA
Usyk was the hard puncher as compared to the Joshua.The punching speed of Usyk was more compared to the Joshua in a recent days,this game mostly favor the Usyk will be the opinion of most of the boxing community fans here.Since Usyk was hard puncher,the possibility was more to the win by the KO.Dubois had lost his three match with the KO made him very week now and mostly with less leg power.The leg also plays huge role in the boxing,the leg work itself defined the winner of that match.This is not the equal match to the Dubois now.
August 25, 2023, 02:53:21 PM
Ok, I see some feed on my Twitter account, so everything is set between the two, both makes the HW but obviously Dubois is the heavier of the two.
Hoping for a Usyk win here, so that he can settle and fight Tyson Fury next for the undisputed belt. But let's see if the younger Daniel Dubois can upset Usyk and derail all that plan for a Saudi fight for Usyk vs Fury.
Much younger and has the power too, I haven't settled my bet yet between, but let's see.
Hoping for a Usyk win here, so that he can settle and fight Tyson Fury next for the undisputed belt. But let's see if the younger Daniel Dubois can upset Usyk and derail all that plan for a Saudi fight for Usyk vs Fury.
Much younger and has the power too, I haven't settled my bet yet between, but let's see.
August 25, 2023, 07:00:12 AM
While many think that this fight has no sense and Usyk victory is not a matter of question, for Dubois, even if he looses, that is a huge step in heavyweight boxing division. He hasnt faced opponent of such level before. For him it is a huge risk and a huge challenge. Even in case of a lose, he gains experience and sing his name in a boxing history. For many boxing fans, he was a no-name. Even if he looses, people will start to recognize him.
August 24, 2023, 08:37:09 AM
I'm still confused about the odds. I know that Usyk is a great boxer, but seeing that Dubois is still very young and strong, has solid punching power, I don't understand why his odds is at 6.60. This odds is loudly and clearly saying he almost doesn't have a chance against Usyk.
I'm a little bit attracted to risk a little amount to Dubois if only because of the very high odds. But he's been inactive for almost a year. This could be a big factor knowing that he'll be facing no less than Usyk right away for his comeback fight.
I'm a little bit attracted to risk a little amount to Dubois if only because of the very high odds. But he's been inactive for almost a year. This could be a big factor knowing that he'll be facing no less than Usyk right away for his comeback fight.
August 24, 2023, 07:29:36 AM
I agree, he needs to start strong and hurt Usyk if he wants to win the fight. Undoubtedly, he has the power, as 18 of his 19 wins came from KO. If we convert that to a ratio, it's a 95% KO rate. However, bookies will not offer very attractive odds if they believe Usyk will lose. This creates a puzzle for us bettors because bookies are smarter than us; they set odds based on the likelihood of winning.
It's more on logic if Usyk beats Joshua who is also a hard puncher with a good also a good knockout percentage then they figure that Usyk can withstand Dubois' power, and of course, it helps that the fight will be held in Poland where there are many Ukrainian migrated, so it Usyk is fighting in his hometown and Dubois has no prior experience where he fought on enemy territories.
Dubois is facing a big challenge, I hope Dubois's leg is okay now he suffered three knockdowns because of his leg cramps in round one but managed to comeback to knock out Lerena
Here's a video of that fight :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZ7MCCgf8NA
August 24, 2023, 06:05:26 AM
If Usyk wins here he should face Tyson next so the heavyweight belts should be consolidated so we'll have one undisputed champion.
If only Fury wont retire after a big juicy check after Ngannou fight
Fury mentioned here and there that he is about to put gloves on the wall.It could be a trick, there's a lot of unfinished business, he still hasn't united all the belts, and his countryman is asking for an all-British showdown if Ngannou beats him or the match is a draw I'm sure he will opt for a rematch, id he finish all of these with success then he will go down in history as the greatest heavyweight champion and the great British heavyweight champion and even if he retires after the Ngannou fight, a lot of people will call him out to get out of retirement.
Fury as an undefeated heavyweight champion will always get a challenge, he will not enjoy his retirement because there are so many tasks that need to be done, he is not getting any younger if he finishes all these tasks, then he can retire without thinking that he has not done what he needs to do when he was still active.
Indeed Fury has unfinished businesses, but wont Usyk earlier this year offered him a fight? Right after Fury TKOed Chisora, Usyk stepped in the ring. I remember there were announced two possible reasons - they did not find agreement in payment, and Usyk wanted a rematch clause in contract, while Fury didnt.
I am not sure Fury is 100% focused in boxing right now. All that drinking issues, a fight against Ngannou, now on Netflix tv show about Fury is aired. It looks he is only about money, but not gaining all the belts.
If I'm not mistaken, Usyk camp says that Fury and his team are offering a not so good paycheck for them and that's why the fight didn't progress at all. Yes, he step up in the ring and Fury was shouting but Usyk just stand their stoic and with no emotions as well, and yet he looks very scary when he confronted Tyson Fury.
So let's see here, both seems to have a tune up fight, here Usyk against Dubois and then we will have Fury against Francis N. next.
And if both of them wins then we will see as Eddie Hearn says, might be in Saudi Arabia for their fight.
August 24, 2023, 05:53:17 AM
If Usyk wins here he should face Tyson next so the heavyweight belts should be consolidated so we'll have one undisputed champion.
If only Fury wont retire after a big juicy check after Ngannou fight
Fury mentioned here and there that he is about to put gloves on the wall.It could be a trick, there's a lot of unfinished business, he still hasn't united all the belts, and his countryman is asking for an all-British showdown if Ngannou beats him or the match is a draw I'm sure he will opt for a rematch, id he finish all of these with success then he will go down in history as the greatest heavyweight champion and the great British heavyweight champion and even if he retires after the Ngannou fight, a lot of people will call him out to get out of retirement.
Fury as an undefeated heavyweight champion will always get a challenge, he will not enjoy his retirement because there are so many tasks that need to be done, he is not getting any younger if he finishes all these tasks, then he can retire without thinking that he has not done what he needs to do when he was still active.
Indeed Fury has unfinished businesses, but wont Usyk earlier this year offered him a fight? Right after Fury TKOed Chisora, Usyk stepped in the ring. I remember there were announced two possible reasons - they did not find agreement in payment, and Usyk wanted a rematch clause in contract, while Fury didnt.
I am not sure Fury is 100% focused in boxing right now. All that drinking issues, a fight against Ngannou, now on Netflix tv show about Fury is aired. It looks he is only about money, but not gaining all the belts.
August 23, 2023, 10:10:05 AM
Judging by the betting odds, this appears to be a total mismatch. I won't be expecting much from Dubois, as I see it as another easy fight for Usyk. Just think about it: if those odds are accurate, betting $100 on Dubois could win you $700. It's insane and likely attractive to those who believe Dubois will pull off an upset.
Very attractive indeed I'm sure many will take the risk to bet on Dubois, Dubois only chance to beat Usyk is to impose his power in the early rounds, Usyk is just too good in the latter rounds he is a very technical fighter, but even the best technical boxers will thrown out in his game if he gets hurt by Dubois power
Check out Dubois' power here, if he caught Usyk, Dubois would pour in on him
The Heavyweight Monster | Daniel Dubois | All Knockouts
I agree, he needs to start strong and hurt Usyk if he wants to win the fight. Undoubtedly, he has the power, as 18 of his 19 wins came from KO. If we convert that to a ratio, it's a 95% KO rate. However, bookies will not offer very attractive odds if they believe Usyk will lose. This creates a puzzle for us bettors because bookies are smarter than us; they set odds based on the likelihood of winning.
August 23, 2023, 09:35:34 AM
Judging by the betting odds, this appears to be a total mismatch. I won't be expecting much from Dubois, as I see it as another easy fight for Usyk. Just think about it: if those odds are accurate, betting $100 on Dubois could win you $700. It's insane and likely attractive to those who believe Dubois will pull off an upset.
Very attractive indeed I'm sure many will take the risk to bet on Dubois, Dubois only chance to beat Usyk is to impose his power in the early rounds, Usyk is just too good in the latter rounds he is a very technical fighter, but even the best technical boxers will thrown out in his game if he gets hurt by Dubois power
Check out Dubois' power here, if he caught Usyk, Dubois would pour in on him
The Heavyweight Monster | Daniel Dubois | All Knockouts
August 23, 2023, 08:32:53 AM
Usyk needs to win this fight, as there's a rumor that he's up for a big match against Fury in Saudi Arabia. Based on the records, there's only a small disparity, but in terms of the quality of the fight, I see Usyk having the advantage here, as he has beaten AJ twice, who is one of the best in the heavyweight division.
Daniel Dubois, on the other hand, is not undefeated; he suffered a loss against Joe Joyce through KO. So, I wouldn't be surprised if Usyk manages to KO him.
As the betting odds suggest, this is a sure win for Usyk.
Daniel Dubois, on the other hand, is not undefeated; he suffered a loss against Joe Joyce through KO. So, I wouldn't be surprised if Usyk manages to KO him.
As the betting odds suggest, this is a sure win for Usyk.
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Fighter Odds
Daniel Dubois +700
Oleksandr Usyk -1250
https://www.oddsshark.com/boxing/usyk-vs-dubois-odds-betting-picksDaniel Dubois +700
Oleksandr Usyk -1250
Judging by the betting odds, this appears to be a total mismatch. I won't be expecting much from Dubois, as I see it as another easy fight for Usyk. Just think about it: if those odds are accurate, betting $100 on Dubois could win you $700. It's insane and likely attractive to those who believe Dubois will pull off an upset.
August 23, 2023, 07:51:30 AM
Usyk needs to win this fight, as there's a rumor that he's up for a big match against Fury in Saudi Arabia. Based on the records, there's only a small disparity, but in terms of the quality of the fight, I see Usyk having the advantage here, as he has beaten AJ twice, who is one of the best in the heavyweight division.
Daniel Dubois, on the other hand, is not undefeated; he suffered a loss against Joe Joyce through KO. So, I wouldn't be surprised if Usyk manages to KO him.
As the betting odds suggest, this is a sure win for Usyk.
Daniel Dubois, on the other hand, is not undefeated; he suffered a loss against Joe Joyce through KO. So, I wouldn't be surprised if Usyk manages to KO him.
As the betting odds suggest, this is a sure win for Usyk.
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Fighter Odds
Daniel Dubois +700
Oleksandr Usyk -1250
https://www.oddsshark.com/boxing/usyk-vs-dubois-odds-betting-picks Daniel Dubois +700
Oleksandr Usyk -1250
August 23, 2023, 07:34:16 AM
If Usyk wins here he should face Tyson next so the heavyweight belts should be consolidated so we'll have one undisputed champion.
If only Fury wont retire after a big juicy check after Ngannou fight
Fury mentioned here and there that he is about to put gloves on the wall.It could be a trick, there's a lot of unfinished business, he still hasn't united all the belts, and his countryman is asking for an all-British showdown if Ngannou beats him or the match is a draw I'm sure he will opt for a rematch, id he finish all of these with success then he will go down in history as the greatest heavyweight champion and the great British heavyweight champion and even if he retires after the Ngannou fight, a lot of people will call him out to get out of retirement.
Fury as an undefeated heavyweight champion will always get a challenge, he will not enjoy his retirement because there are so many tasks that need to be done, he is not getting any younger if he finishes all these tasks, then he can retire without thinking that he has not done what he needs to do when he was still active.
August 23, 2023, 07:05:10 AM
Although Dubois has a very good record, but it seems this will be an easy fight for Usyk because Dubois name isn't included in the top 10 The Ring and in the top 9 BoxRec. Dubois was lose against Joy Joyce, Joyce has a name in heavyweight boxing division, it's obvious Usyk is tougher than Joyce. Even though Usyk's last four fights aren't won via KO, I think this time he might win via KO.
I think this is just a warm-up fight for Usyk since it seems they cannot find a good fighter to fight him this time and in order not to rust, he needs some tune-up fight until they can find someone who will take him to another big stage once again. I have not heard of him for a while now I thought he wasn't going to a fight until I saw this post, that is just one indication that this kind of fight is not that important and they didn't hype this because obviously, the profit is not much.
And this might frustrate Dubois, as we is more of a flat footed boxer and might have a difficult time staying with the movement of Usyk and then that sneaky left hand. So it's more of a problem for Dubois on how to upset Usyk in this fight.
In any case, a very interesting fighting evening awaits us.
August 23, 2023, 05:33:31 AM
Although Dubois has a very good record, but it seems this will be an easy fight for Usyk because Dubois name isn't included in the top 10 The Ring and in the top 9 BoxRec. Dubois was lose against Joy Joyce, Joyce has a name in heavyweight boxing division, it's obvious Usyk is tougher than Joyce. Even though Usyk's last four fights aren't won via KO, I think this time he might win via KO.
I think this is just a warm-up fight for Usyk since it seems they cannot find a good fighter to fight him this time and in order not to rust, he needs some tune-up fight until they can find someone who will take him to another big stage once again. I have not heard of him for a while now I thought he wasn't going to a fight until I saw this post, that is just one indication that this kind of fight is not that important and they didn't hype this because obviously, the profit is not much.
And this might frustrate Dubois, as we is more of a flat footed boxer and might have a difficult time staying with the movement of Usyk and then that sneaky left hand. So it's more of a problem for Dubois on how to upset Usyk in this fight.
August 23, 2023, 04:56:45 AM
If Usyk wins here he should face Tyson next so the heavyweight belts should be consolidated so we'll have one undisputed champion.
If only Fury wont retire after a big juicy check after Ngannou fight
Fury mentioned here and there that he is about to put gloves on the wall.And for Dubois, knockout it is not best, but only single chance to win. Heavyweight division is famous for lucky punches more than any other division. Don Charles trains Dubois, he is a coach of Dereck Chisora. Usyk fought Chisora and I would not say that that fight was easy for him. So they know what expect from Usyk. Which means there is bit more chances for Dubois to get victory.
August 23, 2023, 04:45:47 AM
Although Dubois has a very good record, but it seems this will be an easy fight for Usyk because Dubois name isn't included in the top 10 The Ring and in the top 9 BoxRec. Dubois was lose against Joy Joyce, Joyce has a name in heavyweight boxing division, it's obvious Usyk is tougher than Joyce. Even though Usyk's last four fights aren't won via KO, I think this time he might win via KO.
I think this is just a warm-up fight for Usyk since it seems they cannot find a good fighter to fight him this time and in order not to rust, he needs some tune-up fight until they can find someone who will take him to another big stage once again. I have not heard of him for a while now I thought he wasn't going to a fight until I saw this post, that is just one indication that this kind of fight is not that important and they didn't hype this because obviously, the profit is not much.
August 23, 2023, 04:42:50 AM
It is still hard for me to understand why this fight is about to happen in few days. Dubois is young, I would say to young for heavyweight. Even though is a professional with 75 fights in amateur career, Usyk is better in everything. More fights, more experience. Just plain facts, Usyk likes long fights, Dubois only few times had fights that last longer than 5 rounds. Why I am stressing so much attention on that - because Dubois got two injuries-surgeries that came one after another.
First a nasty eye injury in 2020, then a torn cruciate ligament in 2021. Last time he fought, when he was knocked down 3 times in first round, that was due to his knee injury popped out again. After that he has spend 6months on crutches. Now he is about to face a champ whos main skills are speed and combos...
First a nasty eye injury in 2020, then a torn cruciate ligament in 2021. Last time he fought, when he was knocked down 3 times in first round, that was due to his knee injury popped out again. After that he has spend 6months on crutches. Now he is about to face a champ whos main skills are speed and combos...
Dubois best chance is to go for a knockout in the earlier rounds or go for the upper hand in the earlier rounds because as the fight drags on it will be Usyk turn to impose his skill, Dubois cannot equal Usyk, Usyk is getting better in the latter rounds of the fight especially in the championship rounds.
Its power and skill in this fight I have seen Dubois in his training and he really does pack power on both hands but the power will only matter if he can hit Usyk who has an impeccable defense, Dubois is considered as the next Tyson his built is very similar to Tyson but he lacks the confidence to go like Mike Tyson did.
If Usyk wins here he should face Tyson next so the heavyweight belts should be consolidated so we'll have one undisputed champion.
August 23, 2023, 04:00:11 AM
It is still hard for me to understand why this fight is about to happen in few days. Dubois is young, I would say to young for heavyweight. Even though is a professional with 75 fights in amateur career, Usyk is better in everything. More fights, more experience. Just plain facts, Usyk likes long fights, Dubois only few times had fights that last longer than 5 rounds. Why I am stressing so much attention on that - because Dubois got two injuries-surgeries that came one after another.
First a nasty eye injury in 2020, then a torn cruciate ligament in 2021. Last time he fought, when he was knocked down 3 times in first round, that was due to his knee injury popped out again. After that he has spend 6months on crutches. Now he is about to face a champ whos main skills are speed and combos...
First a nasty eye injury in 2020, then a torn cruciate ligament in 2021. Last time he fought, when he was knocked down 3 times in first round, that was due to his knee injury popped out again. After that he has spend 6months on crutches. Now he is about to face a champ whos main skills are speed and combos...
July 27, 2023, 12:38:33 AM
By wins, both fighters are very close, By number of knockouts Dubois is scary yes, but I think he has had those wins and knockouts because he has not met a fighter like Usyk, and this will be his first time fighting him. Dubois has a new trainer so that can force some more improvement from Dubois more than what we have seen him and make this fight go in his favour. Usyk is not used to defeat, Dubois has learned a lesson from it having lost once. Usyk will not like to loose the fight, Dubois will not like this to be another fight that he will loose. The winner of this fight is not too obvious.
Both fighters can't afford to lose this fight, Usyk is still eyeing Fury for a huge paycheck, and Dubois will do everything to redeem himself and can't afford to lose this once-in-a-lifetime opportunity.No, both fighters will stake everything to win, Usyk may have the upper hand because he is the more technical of the two but we all know Dubois is considered the new Mike Tyson, so one big punch that gets in it will be over.
Waiting for the press conference and face-off, there will be no thrash talks but that doesn't mean these two do not mean business.
Usyk has a lot at stake in this fight because if he loses, it will destroy his plan to have an undisputed fight with Fury. Usyk vs Fury is going to be a big fight, but Dubois can't be underestimated, even though he lost to Joe Joyce, as we never know his adjustments in this fight. There's no hype from the fans on this fight so far, but as soon as Usyk wins the fight, the hype will be high, and fans will be asking for Fury vs Usyk. So hopefully our expectation will happen.
July 03, 2023, 08:31:39 AM
By wins, both fighters are very close, By number of knockouts Dubois is scary yes, but I think he has had those wins and knockouts because he has not met a fighter like Usyk, and this will be his first time fighting him. Dubois has a new trainer so that can force some more improvement from Dubois more than what we have seen him and make this fight go in his favour. Usyk is not used to defeat, Dubois has learned a lesson from it having lost once. Usyk will not like to loose the fight, Dubois will not like this to be another fight that he will loose. The winner of this fight is not too obvious.
Both fighters can't afford to lose this fight, Usyk is still eyeing Fury for a huge paycheck, and Dubois will do everything to redeem himself and can't afford to lose this once-in-a-lifetime opportunity.No, both fighters will stake everything to win, Usyk may have the upper hand because he is the more technical of the two but we all know Dubois is considered the new Mike Tyson, so one big punch that gets in it will be over.
Waiting for the press conference and face-off, there will be no thrash talks but that doesn't mean these two do not mean business.
June 19, 2023, 05:02:10 PM
While we can agree that Usyk indeed can defeat Dubios, the opposite can also happen. It's more possible to happen to me.
19 fights and 18 by KO is a scary record for a heavyweight. Usyk will not be surprised if he is gonna be knockout by Dubios, just look at how solid young man he is compared to the old Usyk.
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Strange choice of place, they could just agree on Wembley Stadium? There must be a story behind this decision.
As a champion, he has the option to fight in his hometown but because it's not possible Poland is the best choice, Usyk will just give his challenger a favor if the fight is held in Wembley Stadium. June 17, 2023, 06:47:39 PM
While we can agree that Usyk indeed can defeat Dubios, the opposite can also happen. It's more possible to happen to me.
19 fights and 18 by KO is a scary record for a heavyweight. Usyk will not be surprised if he is gonna be knockout by Dubios, just look at how solid young man he is compared to the old Usyk.
Strange choice of place, they could just agree on Wembley Stadium? There must be a story behind this decision.
Usyk is well aware of that power but he knows how to counter these strong boxers, and that is to make them awkward just like he did against Joshua, Dubois's only loss was against Joe Joyce who capitalized Dubois's lack of movement and jabs and this is what Usyk will do.
About the place of the fight It's a 43,000-seat stadium and the promoter expects it to be full, Usyk wants to fight in front of his fellow Ukrainian but since it's not possible, the nearest is fighting in Poland where one of his biggest fan base is located.
June 17, 2023, 03:01:30 PM
As I look at their record, Dubois having more percentage of knock outing his opponent is very attractive to choose him for a bet but his ko lost record is a turn off. So I think Usyk will be the better choice between the two since Usyk proves that he is a tough guy. Aside from that, I do not think that Dubois can beat Usyk.
Btw, if you remember Dubois fight against Kevin Lerena where Dubois was in trouble in the first round, the bell rang 10 sec. earlier. While Lerena wasn't given a chance on the second round when he was down the second time after he was hit after bell rang which signals the end of the round.
Here is the very controversial fight between Daniel Dubois and Kevin Lerena
Btw, if you remember Dubois fight against Kevin Lerena where Dubois was in trouble in the first round, the bell rang 10 sec. earlier. While Lerena wasn't given a chance on the second round when he was down the second time after he was hit after bell rang which signals the end of the round.
Here is the very controversial fight between Daniel Dubois and Kevin Lerena
June 17, 2023, 02:56:49 PM
By wins, both fighters are very close, By number of knockouts Dubois is scary yes, but I think he has had those wins and knockouts because he has not met a fighter like Usyk, and this will be his first time fighting him. Dubois has a new trainer so that can force some more improvement from Dubois more than what we have seen him and make this fight go in his favour. Usyk is not used to defeat, Dubois has learned a lesson from it having lost once. Usyk will not like to loose the fight, Dubois will not like this to be another fight that he will loose. The winner of this fight is not too obvious.
June 17, 2023, 11:21:25 AM
I have Usyk winning by a decision here, of all the heavyweight champions Usyk is an established technician in the ring he has a very good ring generalship, he never thinks of knocking out his opponent he breaks down his opponent to frustrate him and always looks for his opponent's weakness.
He is a thinking fighter, and it's hard to beat a thinking and a wise fighter in his game, Dubois is a good fighter but Usyk will overwhelm him like he did against Joshua.
He is a thinking fighter, and it's hard to beat a thinking and a wise fighter in his game, Dubois is a good fighter but Usyk will overwhelm him like he did against Joshua.
While we can agree that Usyk indeed can defeat Dubios, the opposite can also happen. It's more possible to happen to me.
19 fights and 18 by KO is a scary record for a heavyweight. Usyk will not be surprised if he is gonna be knockout by Dubios, just look at how solid young man he is compared to the old Usyk.
Strange choice of place, they could just agree on Wembley Stadium? There must be a story behind this decision.
June 17, 2023, 10:10:20 AM
I have Usyk winning by a decision here, of all the heavyweight champions Usyk is an established technician in the ring he has a very good ring generalship, he never thinks of knocking out his opponent he breaks down his opponent to frustrate him and always looks for his opponent's weakness.
He is a thinking fighter, and it's hard to beat a thinking and a wise fighter in his game, Dubois is a good fighter but Usyk will overwhelm him like he did against Joshua.
He is a thinking fighter, and it's hard to beat a thinking and a wise fighter in his game, Dubois is a good fighter but Usyk will overwhelm him like he did against Joshua.
June 17, 2023, 10:00:19 AM
Although Dubois has a very good record, but it seems this will be an easy fight for Usyk because Dubois name isn't included in the top 10 The Ring and in the top 9 BoxRec. Dubois was lose against Joy Joyce, Joyce has a name in heavyweight boxing division, it's obvious Usyk is tougher than Joyce. Even though Usyk's last four fights aren't won via KO, I think this time he might win via KO.
June 17, 2023, 09:41:22 AM
This promises to be a great fight in the making as both fighters have gone through a lot and both are champions, this is a battle of tacticians, and expect a lot of jabs and movements in the ring but this is not going to be a boring fight as both fighters are capable of hurting his opponent.
I have Usyk as the favorite here being an undisputed champion but I don't rule out Dubois coming up with a massive upset because he can do it.
Pictures from: Box.live
Usyk - Dubois
I have Usyk as the favorite here being an undisputed champion but I don't rule out Dubois coming up with a massive upset because he can do it.
So who you got in this fight
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Oleksandr Usyk will square off against Daniel Dubois on Saturday 26th August 2023 at Stadion Wroclaw in Wroclaw.
The fight will take place over 12 rounds in the Heavyweight division, which means there is no weight limit.
This contest is for the undisputed heavyweight championship of the world, with the WBO, WBA, IBF & The Ring belts on the line.
The fight will take place over 12 rounds in the Heavyweight division, which means there is no weight limit.
This contest is for the undisputed heavyweight championship of the world, with the WBO, WBA, IBF & The Ring belts on the line.
Pictures from: Box.live
Usyk - Dubois
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