Topic: OMG! Putin ready to negotiate?! (Read 396 times)

If he is serious about the decision of negotiation, then what is stopping him from materializing it? Everyone knows the status of Russia and its powers. Putin isn't under the pressure of anyone who can prevent him from negotiating with anyone. Also, Putin's political situation is strong enough among Russia's citizens. So I don't understand why he doesn't agree to talk to anyone.

I guess it's safe to say Christmas has a way of doing things and it has certainly done something to Putin.
 News has it that the Russian president and instigator of the invasion to Ukraine has come out to declare his intentions of opening talks with Zelenksy and his Western backers, but they seem to be saying "not yet".
 
The Russian invasion to Ukraine is in its tenth month and this war is the biggest confrontation between Moscow and the West since the Missile Crisis of Cuba in 1962. [1]

Are his actions actually genuine or is he really running from something entirely? More on this news here

[1] https://www.google.com/search?q=missile+crisis+cuba+1962&oq=Missile+Crisis+of+Cuba+in+19&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0l4.16329j0j7&client=ms-android-transsion-infinix-rev1&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

Never will they run out of bullets, how possible will that be when both countries have allies that supply them with drones and other crazy weapons. The only way is to stop and negotiate that all.

Looks like they're going to be fighting until they run out of bullets.

I believe that both sides want to stop the war, but they are both great powers, so making concessions first to end the war is almost impossible.  I dare to affirm that, Russia or NATO will not make concessions to end the war, their ego is too big and if any country makes concessions first, that country will not have a voice in the international arena. I am very interested in war because it affects the whole world and also us, but to be honest, I cannot think of any reason for war to end. Hopefully, there will be a country big enough to mediate and end the war.

Achieving it's goal is not just going to be easy or rather it will extend the war to a length that when it's time to even think of negotiating it would be hard to those who are to listen.
With or without he's achievement the time is now to stop this madness called war.

Putin will only negotiate when Russia achieves its stated goal, I don't believe they will just want to negotiate without any conditions.

The question is, how much more of his people and infrastructure is Zelensky willing to sacrifice for the sake of weakening Russia and ending the war with more on his side of the table. Russia won't just move out of Ukraine, that's for sure.

The negotiations are over.
Zelensky won't accept further negotiation until Russia moves out of Ukraine, and gives the land back.
That isn't Russia's goal, however.
So, negotiations are over.

In the past, Russia also had difficulty in stopping the HIMARS system, but they finally found a solution to disable it, and now the Patriot system. They may have some difficulty initially, but once again the Russians will be able to neutralize US weapons.

The war has lasted for the 11th month, so economic or military damage is inevitable, but the problem is which side suffers more, whoever stands longer will win.

Europe has no say in this war, they are the most affected party, but the one who has the right to decide this war is the terrorists of the US imperialists.

The exclusion from the world cup was because of the war, if you noticed, every league was talking against the war. So FIFA disqualified them automatically, and I don't think the negotiation has anything to do with the fact that they didn't make it to the WORLD CUP.

I really don't know why but PUTIN has his reasons for coming out to talk about ending the war or negotiating.
I just wish the war will come to an end soon.

I also believe their exclusion from the world cup must have also been one of the reasons for the Christmas decision to negotiate.

In the speech declaring his willingness to negotiate, Putin made two important points. The first point about the Patriot system that will be supplied to Ukraine, where Putin confirmed that Russia is capable of destroying it and that it will actually destroy it as soon as it arrives. The second point is his declaration of his country's readiness to negotiate with those he called the parties to the conflict in Ukraine, and I think he meant the NATO countries and the countries that declared their military and economic support for Ukraine.

It seems that Putin is really suffering losses in his military operation, and the Patriot system will be very harsh because it will be able to target sites inside Russia. I doubt, frankly, that Western countries will accept sitting at the negotiating table without preconditions, as Putin called for

"The only thing that stops our enemies today is the understanding that Russia will be guided by [the doctrine] on nuclear deterrence. And if there is a real threat, we will act," Medvedev wrote in his article published on Sunday night – noting that in such a grim scenario there will be nobody left to argue about whether that was "a retaliatory strike or a preventive one."

"Therefore, the Western world is balancing between a burning desire to maximally humiliate, dismember and destroy Russia, on the one hand, and the desire to avoid a nuclear apocalypse, on the other," he explained.

Until Russia receives the security guarantees it has demanded, the world "will continue to teeter on the brink of World War III and nuclear catastrophe," Medvedev wrote, noting that Moscow is doing and will continue to do "everything we can to prevent it."

Last December, Russia presented a list of security proposals to the US and NATO, among other things urging the West to impose a ban on Ukraine entering the military bloc, while insisting that NATO should retreat to its borders of 1997, before it began to expand.

After the US and NATO flatly refused, saying they would only be interested in limited strategic arms control talks, it became obvious that Moscow has "no one to talk to and nothing to negotiate about" with the West, Medvedev argued. And when in February "Ukrainian junkies announced their desire to revive their nuclear arsenal," Moscow had no other choice but to act, he added.

"Our world has changed, forever. And the main question remains… what kind of future begins today?" Medvedev wrote.


"New disarmament agreements are currently unrealistic and unnecessary," the Russian official reiterated. "The sooner the guarantees of maximum security that suit our country are received, the sooner the situation will normalize."

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Days after the Russian president says he wanted an end to the war against Ukraine On Sunday, he repeatedly his claims that he was ready to negotiate with everyone involved in this process of accepting peace. All he said was rejected both by the Ukrainians and the US, but it doesn't mean Ukraine are against the peace talk. With the heat still up the Ukrainians are not letting there guards down to this whole peace talk. Dmytro Kuleba the foreign minister of Ukraine said (Monday) that Kyiv wants UN brokered discussion to start by February only for Russia to face war tribunal.
 
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/12/27/europe/ukraine-russia-negotiations-putin-unlikely-intl/index.html

Having this in mind with the peace talk, can all these come to a mutual understanding?  Because if all goes down well, Ukraine will likely win the war which I doubt PUTIN will just let to happen.

It's easier said than done. You can tell many things, but turning it into reality is completely different thing. For example, how many HIMARS systems Russia had destroyed in all these months? I'll answer - 0. So, I'm not sure why he is so confident about destroying Patriot.

I know it's pointless to ask you such questions, but could you give us links to these searches? But at one point you're probably right. Number of HIMARS that Russia is claiming to have destroyed probably exceeds number that was actually supplied to Ukraine. Reports about it from Russian Defense Ministry comes almost on daily basis, though, they never show any proffs.

How they can be excluded from World Cup when they didn't even got qualified to it? And in general, that would be one of the most ridiculous reasons from all possible to start to negotiate.

That's what he always SAYS, which is just ridiculous. If he really wanted to negotiate, he would start by withdrawing all the russian troops from Ukraine. There can be no negotiations as long as they get their way and keep invading sovereign countries. Again, if Putin gets to have his way, his genocide won't stop to Ukraine.

Putin has wanted to negotiate for a long time.
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Searches are contradictory about HIMARS being destroyed, and about the number of them in Ukraine. Sometimes the number claimed to having been destroyed, far exceeds the number claimed to exist in Ukraine.

I also believe their exclusion from the world cup must have also been one of the reasons for the Christmas decision to negotiate.

I also believe their exclusion from the world cup must have also been one of the reasons for the Christmas decision to negotiate.

I guess it's safe to say Christmas has a way of doing things and it has certainly done something to Putin.
 News has it that the Russian president and instigator of the invasion to Ukraine has come out to declare his intentions of opening talks with Zelenksy and his Western backers, but they seem to be saying "not yet".
 
The Russian invasion to Ukraine is in its tenth month and this war is the biggest confrontation between Moscow and the West since the Missile Crisis of Cuba in 1962. [1]

Are his actions actually genuine or is he really running from something entirely? More on this news here

[1] https://www.google.com/search?q=missile+crisis+cuba+1962&oq=Missile+Crisis+of+Cuba+in+19&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0l4.16329j0j7&client=ms-android-transsion-infinix-rev1&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

news about Putin being willing to negotiate again emerged after the US met with the Ukrainian president to discuss something.  apart from that, from the news i have read, the strong reason for the tough negotiations so far is that NATO continues to interfere and influence the decisions that will occur in both countries.  for humanitarian reasons, i support both countries ending their war.

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I guess it's safe to say Christmas has a way of doing things and it has certainly done something to Putin.

In the speech declaring his willingness to negotiate, Putin made two important points. The first point about the Patriot system that will be supplied to Ukraine, where Putin confirmed that Russia is capable of destroying it and that it will actually destroy it as soon as it arrives.

I guess it's safe to say Christmas has a way of doing things and it has certainly done something to Putin.
 News has it that the Russian president and instigator of the invasion to Ukraine has come out to declare his intentions of opening talks with Zelenksy and his Western backers, but they seem to be saying "not yet".
 
The Russian invasion to Ukraine is in its tenth month and this war is the biggest confrontation between Moscow and the West since the Missile Crisis of Cuba in 1962. [1]

Are his actions actually genuine or is he really running from something entirely? More on this news here

[1] https://www.google.com/search?q=missile+crisis+cuba+1962&oq=Missile+Crisis+of+Cuba+in+19&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0l4.16329j0j7&client=ms-android-transsion-infinix-rev1&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

Putin haws wanted to negotiate for a long time. But it's difficult to negotiate with anybody whose strings are being pulled by the conniving US, and the jokers who pull the strings of the US.