One side donations for two country crisis's

Cryptmuster

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Glory To Ukraine! Glory to the heroes!

Quote from: dataispower on March 04, 2022, 11:21:42 AM

The war between Ukraine and Russia is well known to all countries and many countries and exchanges is donating funds to Ukraine for invasion of Ukraine and Russia, i want to know why support of fundraising donation is going to Ukraine alone and nobody mention Russian for donations, i being going through the post no thread of Russian donation, i want to know if Russian dont need support, is not that i have side or I'm so passionate to.

Why did you come up with such a brilliant idea to help the aggressor country, whose troops kill civilians, drop bombs on the cities of Ukraine, loot? Russia invaded a foreign country and the whole world, seeing this, takes the side of peaceful Ukraine. Do you want to collect aid to the aggressor? Why, so that they could continue to buy bombs and drop them on Ukraine?

TheCoinGrabber

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The Ukrainians are the ones being sent donations because they are the ones at the receiving end of aggression. They are the ones having to flee towns, if not the country itself. They are the ones in a humanitarian crisis for now.

Russians would probably be sent donations once it becomes apparent that the public is suffering (say, there's a food shortage) but for now, the effect on them isn't visible yet. Sanctions are also targeting them with the rather implied purpose of making the country suffer enough that the public put pressure on the government (isn't always effective).

evilgreed

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Quote from: JeromeTash on March 06, 2022, 09:01:16 AM

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Don't get me wrong brother, I ain't taking any sides here. What I am trying to say is that the ones suffering aren't the Ukrainian people alone there are also Russians that suffer from this war. This is not a matter of who's suffering is worse. This is clearly more than that. If the goal is to help, there shouldn't be any sort of discrimination. If we condemn all of the Russians just because pf the wrong ways of the minority, how are we different from the ones instigating this war then? Just saying.

KingScorpio

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online donations are so pointless they are easily scamable.

i don't say it happily but it looks like there wont be an alternative to a jewish centristic world.

the jewish with their religious laws create trust and accelerate capitalism.

JeromeTash

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Quote from: evilgreed on March 05, 2022, 09:34:25 AM

While I agree with most of the responses that Ukraine should be the only one between fhe two that recieves donations, I also feel a bit bad for the normal Russian people that does not even want to have anything to do with the war or are even against it but are still forced to suffer along with the ones that are instigating this invasion. I mean, the sanctions against Russia surely doesn't affect just the instigators or the pro-invasion people right? Well, I don't know what should be done though or in what way should we go about it. Just trying to expand the thought of the op while stating my own thoughts about this.

The normal Russian people may suffer due to the sanctions, but you can't compare that to what the Ukrainians are going through right now. Imagine waking up one day and your house has been shelled, 5 of your family members have been killed, you have been forced to become a refugee with no certainty whether you will ever go back to a country you called home all your life.

KingScorpio

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Quote from: DooMAD on March 04, 2022, 11:47:58 AM

Quote from: dataispower on March 04, 2022, 11:21:42 AM

I need suggestion why Russian is not having fundraising

1) Because Russia isn't being invaded. The humanitarian crisis is happening in Ukraine.
2) This isn't a Bitcoin issue. Consider moving your topic to another forum.

Sometimes I wonder in which planet those spammers live in.

Russia has expansionist goals, while Ukraine is just trying to defend itself.. Ofc it is not the same. They are bombarding Ukraine and expanding their territory into Ukraine.

thats not true, ukrainian corrupt regime is the issue.

and even if, how is nato allowed to expand but not others?

Asiska02

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Quote from: DooMAD on March 04, 2022, 11:47:58 AM

Quote from: dataispower on March 04, 2022, 11:21:42 AM

I need suggestion why Russian is not having fundraising

1) Because Russia isn't being invaded. The humanitarian crisis is happening in Ukraine.
2) This isn't a Bitcoin issue. Consider moving your topic to another forum.

About the Russia and Ukraine crisis, how does it has effect on the bitcoin market?? Or it has nothing to do with the market and people trading the bitcoin living in that vicinity are safe with their coins??

D-law

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Its obvious the bad sides Russia, not even Russia in full but the selfish aims of Putin.
A man that doesn't laugh, gets to smile with reactions bfrom he's pet... This isn't human at all.
Nobody will give support to Russia in this, even if they do so, that won't be done openly, check out the death rate now over there.
Big spirit from the people of Ukraine fighting tirelessly for there freedom.

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Join hands and help me to grow everybody...

Quote from: Markinzo on March 05, 2022, 10:07:31 AM

For a world that is almost dominated by Western ideologies and Culture what do you expect?
I take no side in this war or Special Operation as some would refer it to as, but i believe there are Russian citizens that are also victims of this devastating situation this past few days too.

is not good to expect the same donations to Russia because the president of Russia is the problem by not allowing Ukraine to be part of NATO body, a destruction is more taking place in place in Ukraine and nothing has spoiled in Russian, that is why Russia don't have to have donations, every body pity Ukraine because of vandalization of their home's by Russia

Markinzo

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For a world that is almost dominated by Western ideologies and Culture what do you expect?
I take no side in this war or Special Operation as some would refer it to as, but i believe there are Russian citizens that are also victims of this devastating situation this past few days too.

paxmao

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Quote from: dataispower on March 04, 2022, 11:21:42 AM

I need suggestion why Russian is not having fundraising

Oh, but they do have their own fundraising my friend! There is just but one little difference: Is not optional. You have to volunteer even if you do not want to volunteer. This takes the shape of not being able to go out with USD, interest rates, inflation and other measures that equate to mandatory fundraising.

https://www.marketplace.org/2022/03/02/russia-is-trying-to-prop-up-the-ruble-but-its-not-working/

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/putin-signs-decree-to-prohibit-leaving-russia-with-more-than-10-000-in-foreign-currency-01646176225

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Putin signs decree to prohibit leaving Russia with more than $10,000 in foreign currency

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Putin ordered this week included obligating Russian exporters to sell 80% of their revenues in foreign currency, prohibiting Russian residents from providing nonresidents with foreign currency under loan agreements and from depositing foreign currency into foreign bank accounts.

evilgreed

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While I agree with most of the responses that Ukraine should be the only one between fhe two that recieves donations, I also feel a bit bad for the normal Russian people that does not even want to have anything to do with the war or are even against it but are still forced to suffer along with the ones that are instigating this invasion. I mean, the sanctions against Russia surely doesn't affect just the instigators or the pro-invasion people right? Well, I don't know what should be done though or in what way should we go about it. Just trying to expand the thought of the op while stating my own thoughts about this.

mk4

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I have notice from people response the reason while donations is going to Ukraine instead of Russian, from what i notice here Ukraine have enough damages both lost of life and properties than Russian country,

Read the responses again — it's mainly because Russian is the aggressor here, and it's Ukraine that's being bullied.

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and also i observe in Ukraine that they have not accepted Bitcoin as a legal tender before but people is donating Bitcoin for fundraising is Bitcoin being legalize in Ukraine now or after the war between them and Russia they will still rise against bitcoin

Bitcoin doesn't need to be legalized as legal tender to be useful. They can simply sell the bitcoin/cryptocurrencies they crowd funded for USD or their local currency, and use that money to fund their stuff.

Raymond Gary

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Why it does looks like a one-sided donation is base on the way with which Russia invaded Ukraine and it's obviously seen by everyone that this is an improper act , even though some Russian citizens do not side their country on this.
SecondlyThere is no Killing or damages done to Russian residents so far that could attract such support or donation, so I don't see any any reason here why they should get donation. In a nut shell and in my own view I don't think it's one-sided.

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Quote from: dataispower on March 04, 2022, 11:21:42 AM

The war between Ukraine and Russia is well known to all countries and many countries and exchanges is donating funds to Ukraine for invasion of Ukraine and Russia, i want to know why support of fundraising donation is going to Ukraine alone and nobody mention Russian for donations, i being going through the post no thread of Russian donation, i want to know if Russian dont need support, is not that i have side or I'm so passionate to.

This is rightful link https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.59378382 of Ukraine funds donation wallet and below is the wallet from DaveF thread.

Quote from: DaveF on February 27, 2022, 03:33:47 PM

DarkStar_, would you please be so kind and change my payment address to the Ukrainian donation address.
And tell them it would be nice if they did matching donations :-)

Code:

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
I am DaveF until I say otherwise please send my weekly payments to 357a3So9CbsNfBBgFYACGvxxS6tMaDoa1P Please note that is the Ukrainian donation address so when I change it again I will sign a message from address I am using now bc1qquutf3venv8rufrqua7dv3t6rd2tl28ake4ag5
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
bc1qquutf3venv8rufrqua7dv3t6rd2tl28ake4ag5
IPDohrBelDjADkMrm2QAw8CgrSZb9lAPRir4dstGjKsiPVo0V/o80/7iZvZTrmvabTrA17Ta07No/9wnSNtGGOU=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

-Dave

I need suggestion why Russian is not having fundraising

Russia is not under war, Ukraine is.

Stop Putin!!!

https://twitter.com/i/status/1499806284081737730

dbc23

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We won't call the conflict between Russia and Ukraine a war. This is a clear invasion because Ukrainians aren't retaliating all the do is secure their territory from distraction of both lives and properties. Russia hasn't had any sort of invasion from Ukraine so there fire if there be any nation amongst the two that deserves donations it should be Ukraine following the losses that have had as a result of Putin's invasion

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Quote from: dataispower on March 04, 2022, 11:21:42 AM

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-Dave

I need suggestion why Russian is not having fundraising

in war there are aggressors/perpetrators and those who are attacked/victims, in this case Russia attacks ukraine, it means that the victims are ukraine. the fundraising is aimed at Ukraine it is very appropriate ^{(because ukraine is a victim)} but why do you ask Russia did not get fundraising? can't you see which side Russia is on.

Marykeller

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The whole war is happening in Ukraine territory not in Russia. Russia took the war to Ukrainian soil, by shooting and throwing missiles at them, all because the Ukrainian wants to join the Nato community.
No invasion done on Russian soil yet, if there's Russian would have sort for fundraising from her aligned countries like China, Iraq, India and Afghanistan

MCVXYZ

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Hundreds of Ukraine civilians are killed, their houses are bombed, destroyed. Now, Survived people don't have enough food, water and other things to live because of Russian army... Do you wonder why the donations are only for the Ukraine?

cryptomaniac_xxx

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They are the obvious aggressor in this war, so that question is, are you going to support it?

Of course, there could be nationalistic Russians that are going to support Putin's cause, no matter what. But you have to think if it is righteous or not? And we all know that Ukraine is very tiny as compare to Russians, and there are speculations that the Russians will win this war even without any donations coming in.

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Quote from: dataispower on March 04, 2022, 11:21:42 AM

The war between Ukraine and Russia is well known to all countries and many countries and exchanges is donating funds to Ukraine for invasion of Ukraine and Russia, i want to know why support of fundraising donation is going to Ukraine alone and nobody mention Russian for donations, i being going through the post no thread of Russian donation, i want to know if Russian dont need support, is not that i have side or I'm so passionate to.

Taking a look at the ongoing war, one has to consider two factors one is the country mostly affected by the crisis and second is the country that has the fault to be blame for causing such uprising for conflict, and after considering the two sides, Russia has the power to put a stop to the war because they initiated it, secondly Ukraine is most affected because the so called powerful Russia think they can exercise authority over Ukraine in which it doesn't work unlike before, almost all countries all over the world are in support for Ukraine and have NATO, US, UK and EU enforcement for help. Therefore if we are to donate, then we give to the oppressed, the one in need, the side mostly affected and that will appreciate any form of help renderd which is Ukraine.

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Quote from: dataispower on March 04, 2022, 11:21:42 AM

The war between Ukraine and Russia is well known to all countries and many countries and exchanges is donating funds to Ukraine for invasion of Ukraine and Russia, i want to know why support of fundraising donation is going to Ukraine alone and nobody mention Russian for donations, i being going through the post no thread of Russian donation, i want to know if Russian dont need support, is not that i have side or I'm so passionate to.

This is rightful link https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.59378382 of Ukraine funds donation wallet and below is the wallet from DaveF thread.

Quote from: DaveF on February 27, 2022, 03:33:47 PM

DarkStar_, would you please be so kind and change my payment address to the Ukrainian donation address.
And tell them it would be nice if they did matching donations :-)

Code:

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
I am DaveF until I say otherwise please send my weekly payments to 357a3So9CbsNfBBgFYACGvxxS6tMaDoa1P Please note that is the Ukrainian donation address so when I change it again I will sign a message from address I am using now bc1qquutf3venv8rufrqua7dv3t6rd2tl28ake4ag5
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
bc1qquutf3venv8rufrqua7dv3t6rd2tl28ake4ag5
IPDohrBelDjADkMrm2QAw8CgrSZb9lAPRir4dstGjKsiPVo0V/o80/7iZvZTrmvabTrA17Ta07No/9wnSNtGGOU=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

-Dave

I need suggestion why Russian is not having fundraising

Are you saying you don't know who started this war and who is invading who? is the country Russia losing life and properties like the Ukrain country is experiencing? If Russia believes they too deserve some crypto donation they too can ask for help Grin

but I am sure they will not get one, at least not from most of the world that is.

mk4

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Asking to fund Russia as well is like asking the community to hand the bully a pair of brass knuckles, instead of helping the victim to get out of the situation. Like, is it even that complicated?

P.S. DaveF is the GOAT.

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Quote from: DooMAD on March 04, 2022, 11:47:58 AM

Quote from: dataispower on March 04, 2022, 11:21:42 AM

I need suggestion why Russian is not having fundraising

1) Because Russia isn't being invaded. The humanitarian crisis is happening in Ukraine.
2) This isn't a Bitcoin issue. Consider moving your topic to another forum.

Sometimes I wonder in which planet those spammers live in.

Russia has expansionist goals, while Ukraine is just trying to defend itself.. Ofc it is not the same. They are bombarding Ukraine and expanding their territory into Ukraine.

dataispower

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Quote from: DooMAD on March 04, 2022, 11:47:58 AM

Quote from: dataispower on March 04, 2022, 11:21:42 AM

I need suggestion why Russian is not having fundraising

2) This isn't a Bitcoin issue. Consider moving your topic to another forum.

Why should i move the topic to another board, the discussion is not related to bitcoin, anything fundraising and Bitcoin discussion discussion should be in Bitcoin discussion board, i dont think is nice to move the topic to economic board

DooMAD

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Leave no FUD unchallenged

Quote from: dataispower on March 04, 2022, 11:21:42 AM

I need suggestion why Russian is not having fundraising

1) Because Russia isn't being invaded. The humanitarian crisis is happening in Ukraine.
2) This isn't a Bitcoin issue. Consider moving your topic to another forum.

dataispower

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The war between Ukraine and Russia is well known to all countries and many countries and exchanges is donating funds to Ukraine for invasion of Ukraine and Russia, i want to know why support of fundraising donation is going to Ukraine alone and nobody mention Russian for donations, i being going through the post no thread of Russian donation, i want to know if Russian dont need support, is not that i have side or I'm so passionate to.

This is rightful link https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.59378382 of Ukraine funds donation wallet and below is the wallet from DaveF thread.

Quote from: DaveF on February 27, 2022, 03:33:47 PM

DarkStar_, would you please be so kind and change my payment address to the Ukrainian donation address.
And tell them it would be nice if they did matching donations :-)

Code:

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
I am DaveF until I say otherwise please send my weekly payments to 357a3So9CbsNfBBgFYACGvxxS6tMaDoa1P Please note that is the Ukrainian donation address so when I change it again I will sign a message from address I am using now bc1qquutf3venv8rufrqua7dv3t6rd2tl28ake4ag5
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
bc1qquutf3venv8rufrqua7dv3t6rd2tl28ake4ag5
IPDohrBelDjADkMrm2QAw8CgrSZb9lAPRir4dstGjKsiPVo0V/o80/7iZvZTrmvabTrA17Ta07No/9wnSNtGGOU=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

-Dave

I need suggestion why Russian is not having fundraising

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