Online Casinos lack slot clubs; comps, is it hard to achieve?

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Quote from: Emitdama on March 05, 2023, 01:49:31 PM

I already heard about those inexpensed paid trips but not the free shopping one. It was like they will give a free voucher? But, I think this one is kinda hassle. You know, they will still need to deliver it to the gamblers address and what if they are from far away places? It will be better if the casinos put the option to convert physical rewards into cash so that some people in those places will just opt for this.

No way. If it's bound to be a physical reward then let it stay at physical.

Besides, surely beforehand, it was already mentioned that the said reward will take place in a matter of days before being delivered.

It's a hassle if it will have it converted on cash as that wasn't part of the term. What's the point of that reward if it's convertible just because of concern about delivery time? Take it or leave it.

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Quote from: kenshi222 on March 03, 2023, 03:38:08 PM

Las Vegas casino is the best casino in the world and Atlantic city casino provide the hotel rooms,food for free.Even this people provide of good accommodation for the players,the players should create a unique technique for their game strategy.The unique game strategy alone help the players to win good amount of money from it.The important thing is the players need to update the unique techniques with time.The most of the people had more interest in the slot club offline as compared to the online slot games.Because the offline game was always interesting as compared to the online version.

The offline casinos have been around for decades and its very solid and most of them would be in charge of online casinos. Quite correct the players who join slot clubs sometimes have different methods of earning lots of profits and sleeping multiple nights in the hotel. Couples can register with different names and get different comps to spend free nights in the hotel. If the both of them are offered 3 nights each, they can decide to spend 6 nights in the same hotel. While they spend 6 days in the hotel they can play more games, change strategies and boost their card hits to rank up on the slot club. That's why its very interesting to play offline casinos and many people still stake there because of benefits slot clubs offers. It certain they spend more, but those comps make them feel remembered and worthy of spending more time on the casino.

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Quote from: goinmerry on March 04, 2023, 02:58:28 PM

Quote from: jrrsparkles on March 04, 2023, 12:46:08 PM

Physical casinos may be disappear but I don't think they will completely but surely its time to make changes too and surely we can see them creating their own online casinos sooner or later when they are forced to do.

I doubt. Physical casinos won't disappear believed me. They are even growing more.

The progress just halted because of the pandemic but soon, the gambling industry in physical casinos will become more blooming. We just feel that online casinos are now dominating the scene because we always do online gambling and are not aware of how big gambling activity is in physical casinos.

What I'm seeing is, in the future, online casinos might give some rewards that are usually seen in physical casinos. For what are those, it varies.

physical casinos will continue to thrive because the experience is quite different as compared to online casinos. some are using this also as family entertainment. online casinos are also growing but both types will survive as they have their own audience. thru time, both can evolve how they will give rewards to their players. they continue to evolve because the taste of gamblers also changes. so they need to adapt in order to be relevant in this industry.

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Well, just like the real casinos offer some free stuff to their customers, online casinos provide some things like: RakeBack, CashBack, VIP programs, free spins, chat rains, and Social Networks Giveaways...

Just a buttress-root, though not often but there are few cases where online casinos offers to provide unexpensed paid trips and free shoppings to high valued and VIP ustomers based on certain criteria sets just to boost and encourage more patronage. And they also have other little ways they carry the low spender gamblers along too.

I already heard about those inexpensed paid trips but not the free shopping one. It was like they will give a free voucher? But, I think this one is kinda hassle. You know, they will still need to deliver it to the gamblers address and what if they are from far away places? It will be better if the casinos put the option to convert physical rewards into cash so that some people in those places will just opt for this.

It's a must that they also give offers to the low spender gamblers because I believe every gambling site is mostly composed of them. If we total all their small bets, they must be bigger or at least will be in the level of the bets made by huge gamblers.

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Quote from: jrrsparkles on March 04, 2023, 12:46:08 PM

Physical casinos may be disappear but I don't think they will completely but surely its time to make changes too and surely we can see them creating their own online casinos sooner or later when they are forced to do.

I doubt. Physical casinos won't disappear believed me. They are even growing more.

The progress just halted because of the pandemic but soon, the gambling industry in physical casinos will become more blooming. We just feel that online casinos are now dominating the scene because we always do online gambling and are not aware of how big gambling activity is in physical casinos.

What I'm seeing is, in the future, online casinos might give some rewards that are usually seen in physical casinos. For what are those, it varies.

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Quote from: jrrsparkles on March 03, 2023, 10:50:54 AM

Every casino has their own way of marketing strategy to attract customers and keep them engaged so as you're saying offline casino may offers free perks whereas online casino offers lots of bonus, free spins, events and promotional campaigns, weekly, monthly rewards, etc so there is no lack of such events comparing with offline when it comes to online casinos.

Online casinos are slacking because they know they have a big new market opening. People who use these casinos will use them anyway. They aren't competing with physical casinos but with each other. If none of the online casinos offer big competitive bonuses, the others have no reason to do it.
The situation is different with physical casinos that are gradually losing a lot of their market to emerging online casinos. It's been happening for more than a decade now. IMO most physical casinos will disappear in the next 20 years.

Everything is turning into online so gambling is not the only evolution so its part of human technology evolution that created a market and now there are competitors. Surely without competition there won't be much benefits for the consumers that is why having healthy rivalry is a good thing is any sector especially it will be beneficial for the end customers.

Physical casinos may be disappear but I don't think they will completely but surely its time to make changes too and surely we can see them creating their own online casinos sooner or later when they are forced to do.

Despite physical casinos and online casinos offering the same kind of games their audiences are completely different, online gambling allows players with limited resources to experience gambling from their own home, physical casinos instead offer a more glamours and expensive experience, and while this will be prohibitive for the majority of the people, there will always be people which can afford to play at those casinos despite the high costs.

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Quote from: coolcoinz on March 03, 2023, 02:03:43 PM

Quote from: jrrsparkles on March 03, 2023, 10:50:54 AM

Every casino has their own way of marketing strategy to attract customers and keep them engaged so as you're saying offline casino may offers free perks whereas online casino offers lots of bonus, free spins, events and promotional campaigns, weekly, monthly rewards, etc so there is no lack of such events comparing with offline when it comes to online casinos.

Online casinos are slacking because they know they have a big new market opening. People who use these casinos will use them anyway. They aren't competing with physical casinos but with each other. If none of the online casinos offer big competitive bonuses, the others have no reason to do it.
The situation is different with physical casinos that are gradually losing a lot of their market to emerging online casinos. It's been happening for more than a decade now. IMO most physical casinos will disappear in the next 20 years.

Everything is turning into online so gambling is not the only evolution so its part of human technology evolution that created a market and now there are competitors. Surely without competition there won't be much benefits for the consumers that is why having healthy rivalry is a good thing is any sector especially it will be beneficial for the end customers.

Physical casinos may be disappear but I don't think they will completely but surely its time to make changes too and surely we can see them creating their own online casinos sooner or later when they are forced to do.

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There are actually several promotions and bonuses given out by online casinos to your customers and some of this bonuses are even categorized and just as the user above me said and I also agree that these bonuses also seems difficult to redeem and that's why most users to find it worth it to join and I also agree with OP that the bonuses are difficult to claim.
I haven't really thought of joining a slot online or any social gambling club because I never thought it exists but I'm going to make some research to find out more about this.
I really don't think it will be easy for online casinos to give out physical prices to customers as it is believed that the vost of shipment and other irrelevant costs with really retard this idea of promotions.

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Casinos have prepared more promotions for their customers but not all customers will be interested in joining them and will choose which one they prefer. Maybe every few days, the casino will send the promotion to all its members via email and there may be many people who didn't check the promotion so they are too late to join it. But the casino will give prizes to VIP members loyal to playing at their place using big money.

And reach the VIP level takes a lot of money and time, so not everyone can achieve it. And online casinos cannot provide promotions like offline casinos do because of the limitations that online casinos have. But online casinos will try to provide the best for all their members.

Promotions that casinos advertise through different platforms or even by email marketing are mostly for those who wager a specific amount of money, and those who wager very little cannot really get any benefits from such promotions which are really unfortunate, and I believe they should have promotions for smaller players as well.

Though small players might not be able to provide a lot of revenue to the casinos, at least they keep the casinos alive by always playing though with small amounts. I think they also deserve some appreciation in form of bonuses or promotions from time to time.

For certain events, some casinos also do promotions for smaller players. But unfortunately, this promotion can also be participated in by players with large capital so that still small players cannot have higher wins than big players. This keeps small players small unless they are willing to use big money to gamble and makes them big players.

And it is not feasible for small players because their goal in gambling is not to make money but to have a fun time and if they can earn money from gambling, it is just a bonus. Well, we can hope that casinos can appreciate little players who have used their money to gamble even though they don't gamble every day but it will be very valuable for little players.

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Quote from: Accardo on February 28, 2023, 11:47:36 AM

I've noticed the loyalty programs of online casinos ranging from withdrawal limits to bonuses, but they're not as enticing as the local casino's slot clubs in places like Las Vegas Casino and Caesar's casino in Atlantic city for instance, that offer comps to active players; free hotel rooms, food, shows and events etc. We play online and how can such a club be useful or achievable? shipping comps to players for time spent and money lost playing online isn't it a strong marketing technique for an online casino that wish to boost its customer base and attract more players? Was wondering and even researched to see online casino slot clubs, but didn't find any. Do you belong to a slot club offline or online? Maybe the free playing bonus represents that for online casino, yet players complain how difficult it is to win playing with bonus.

Do you think online casinos should step up and offer items to consistent low rollers in their platform?

We all know that the physical casinos will always be different from the online casinos where we make out bets. In a physical casinos, there are a lots of features that are present with girls that are available to attend to us. In a normal casinos we can order for food, drinks and anything we wants, there are some casinos that provided women for gamblers too with hotel and empty rooms people can come and book without any difficulties. There are many things that makes the physical casinos more superior to the normal online casinos we can use and deposit our funds and make bets.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on March 02, 2023, 10:48:33 PM

Casinos have prepared more promotions for their customers but not all customers will be interested in joining them and will choose which one they prefer. Maybe every few days, the casino will send the promotion to all its members via email and there may be many people who didn't check the promotion so they are too late to join it. But the casino will give prizes to VIP members loyal to playing at their place using big money.

And reach the VIP level takes a lot of money and time, so not everyone can achieve it. And online casinos cannot provide promotions like offline casinos do because of the limitations that online casinos have. But online casinos will try to provide the best for all their members.

Promotions that casinos advertise through different platforms or even by email marketing are mostly for those who wager a specific amount of money, and those who wager very little cannot really get any benefits from such promotions which are really unfortunate, and I believe they should have promotions for smaller players as well.

Though small players might not be able to provide a lot of revenue to the casinos, at least they keep the casinos alive by always playing though with small amounts. I think they also deserve some appreciation in form of bonuses or promotions from time to time.

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Quote from: Westinhome on March 03, 2023, 03:45:33 PM

Online version of all gambling games are my favourite.Because in online we don’t know what happened next,but if the nearer person is friend on offline game.The winning of the game will surely favour yourself.If the players work against one certain player in the offline card game,the winning is partial one in offline game.But the win of the game is based on the pure luck in online card games.Even you play with strategy in the offline game,it can be destroyed by the betrayal of the game.

uhm. What?

Quote from: jrrsparkles on March 03, 2023, 10:50:54 AM

Every casino has their own way of marketing strategy to attract customers and keep them engaged so as you're saying offline casino may offers free perks whereas online casino offers lots of bonus, free spins, events and promotional campaigns, weekly, monthly rewards, etc so there is no lack of such events comparing with offline when it comes to online casinos.

exactly. All online casinos out there offer some sort of spend milestones that in turn offer rewards per milestone achieved. This itself already acts as a pseudo-loyalty program for most online casinos but sure, let's humor the inclusion of loyalty programs for customers of online casinos, which will literally cause some small-scale casinos to go under due to the amount of lost profits they would accumulate, and most major online casinos half-assing their other reward programs because "they get certain rewards on our loyalty program anyway". I get it, it's nice to be thanked for your loyalty, but the casino didn't force you to choose them, you came to their site of your own volition, the least you could do is not fuck up the clockwork system most casinos have now.

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Online version of all gambling games are my favourite.Because in online we don’t know what happened next,but if the nearer person is friend on offline game.The winning of the game will surely favour yourself.If the players work against one certain player in the offline card game,the winning is partial one in offline game.But the win of the game is based on the pure luck in online card games.Even you play with strategy in the offline game,it can be destroyed by the betrayal of the game.

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Quote from: dothebeats on March 03, 2023, 02:32:48 PM

Quote from: Kakmakr on March 03, 2023, 01:15:51 AM

I have tried to discuss this in the past, but it was shot down...

My suggestion was that casinos offer people discount vouchers for fast food or even vouchers for drinks at certain bars. There are definitely food and bar franchises out there that would partner with online casino's to offer vouchers to their customers. Huh

My local "Brick n Mortar" casinos offer free drinks for certain VIP customers and a all you can eat buffet at a very low price... and that is definitely one of the things that draw many gamblers. They even have free babysitting services for the kids in a very secure entertainment area. Roll Eyes

Won't be easy to implement but doable. As a low roller myself, these things are very much welcome though not necessary to make my betting experience a lot better. What I look for in an online casino is not the perks that they could give, but the overall experience when I'm playing in them. But yeah, sometimes I envy the high rollers because they have access to a lot of things that low rollers don't, so these gift cards, some other vouchers on select stores, and other similarly-natured items that we can get after meeting a certain threshold in our betting amount can do.

It is really interesting to have promising perks from casinos especially if you are a high roller because you can access everything easily. With the bonuses provided, you could surely play and bet excitingly but that will be their edge and casinos has to treat them better to make them stay because they could earn a lot from them.
Same with offline casinos that provide gifts and treat their VIPs the best way. They always provide special perks to make them stay and treat them as special as they could so they will feel valued and always choose to play in casinos. That's the casino's common strategy to attract high rollers and keep them to make their business run better.

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Las Vegas casino is the best casino in the world and Atlantic city casino provide the hotel rooms,food for free.Even this people provide of good accommodation for the players,the players should create a unique technique for their game strategy.The unique game strategy alone help the players to win good amount of money from it.The important thing is the players need to update the unique techniques with time.The most of the people had more interest in the slot club offline as compared to the online slot games.Because the offline game was always interesting as compared to the online version.

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Quote from: dothebeats on March 03, 2023, 02:32:48 PM

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In my opinion, as much as we all would like to, but the casino can not show the same attitude to all customers, because someone has to pay for it. Everyone pays for himself, so if you're not willing to leave as much money in the casino as a high roller, then count on extra loyalty from the casino makes no sense. I personally think so, so do not expect from the casino that is outside the terms and conditions of the gambling services.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on March 03, 2023, 01:15:51 AM

I have tried to discuss this in the past, but it was shot down...

My suggestion was that casinos offer people discount vouchers for fast food or even vouchers for drinks at certain bars. There are definitely food and bar franchises out there that would partner with online casino's to offer vouchers to their customers. Huh

My local "Brick n Mortar" casinos offer free drinks for certain VIP customers and a all you can eat buffet at a very low price... and that is definitely one of the things that draw many gamblers. They even have free babysitting services for the kids in a very secure entertainment area. Roll Eyes

Won't be easy to implement but doable. As a low roller myself, these things are very much welcome though not necessary to make my betting experience a lot better. What I look for in an online casino is not the perks that they could give, but the overall experience when I'm playing in them. But yeah, sometimes I envy the high rollers because they have access to a lot of things that low rollers don't, so these gift cards, some other vouchers on select stores and other similarly-natured items that we can get after meeting a certain threshold in our betting amount can do.

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Quote from: coolcoinz on March 03, 2023, 02:03:43 PM

Quote from: jrrsparkles on March 03, 2023, 10:50:54 AM

Every casino has their own way of marketing strategy to attract customers and keep them engaged so as you're saying offline casino may offers free perks whereas online casino offers lots of bonus, free spins, events and promotional campaigns, weekly, monthly rewards, etc so there is no lack of such events comparing with offline when it comes to online casinos.

Online casinos are slacking because they know they have a big new market opening. People who use these casinos will use them anyway. They aren't competing with physical casinos but with each other. If none of the online casinos offer big competitive bonuses, the others have no reason to do it.
The situation is different with physical casinos that are gradually losing a lot of their market to emerging online casinos. It's been happening for more than a decade now. IMO most physical casinos will disappear in the next 20 years.

Yes, its a different market since its a different place on which they should really need to market out and trying to have that exposure as much as possible considering on how tough the competition is,
they would really be needing to have that aggressive approach on how they would really be showing that they are much better compared into other competitor.It is really just that it is really that
hard though since in every industry on which having competition would be normal.This is why for us gamblers then the more we do see then its an advantage since we could really be having
that option on which one we would really be taking on.

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Quote from: jrrsparkles on March 03, 2023, 10:50:54 AM

Every casino has their own way of marketing strategy to attract customers and keep them engaged so as you're saying offline casino may offers free perks whereas online casino offers lots of bonus, free spins, events and promotional campaigns, weekly, monthly rewards, etc so there is no lack of such events comparing with offline when it comes to online casinos.

Online casinos are slacking because they know they have a big new market opening. People who use these casinos will use them anyway. They aren't competing with physical casinos but with each other. If none of the online casinos offer big competitive bonuses, the others have no reason to do it.
The situation is different with physical casinos that are gradually losing a lot of their market to emerging online casinos. It's been happening for more than a decade now. IMO most physical casinos will disappear in the next 20 years.

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on March 01, 2023, 06:10:29 PM

for small rollers, online casinos can offer contest like what i've seen in betfury, the $150 free-to-play funfury battle. you can get certain amount of funfury token and use it to bet, and you don't need to spend real money to join. you can test how good you are in betting to get high profits also. so casinos can think of similar concept to small rollers just to engage them in being active on the site. this idea is not hard to implement, if they have dedicated individuals to take care of this feature. they don't need high amount to launch. and look at how many players will join the event.

Yeah, that's probably one of the best ways to keep gamblers engaged. Casinos really need to find ways to retain their smaller players because they make up the largest part of their user bases and they should see the overall revenue they can generate with the number of small players combined instead of looking at individual stats.

Small bonuses and events where small betters can participate can be good entertainers and can prove to be somewhat good customer retention techniques. Big rollers always dominate the events with their high bets and wagered amounts whereas smaller users just sit and watch.

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Every casino has their own way of marketing strategy to attract customers and keep them engaged so as you're saying offline casino may offers free perks whereas online casino offers lots of bonus, free spins, events and promotional campaigns, weekly, monthly rewards, etc so there is no lack of such events comparing with offline when it comes to online casinos.

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Quote from: Wexnident on March 03, 2023, 06:39:09 AM

Even with online casinos they don't give you cash directly, they instead offer you opportunities to earn cash instead by offering bonus spins and whatnot.

Online casino offer direct cash reward on their promotion in the form of rakeback and cashback. Casino like Duelbits gives a cash reward whenever you will reach a certain level on the loyalty program aside from the rakeback which is the percentage of the house edge of the game you are playing. This rewards direct cash to your wallet that you can withdraw instantly without any wagering requirements.

Actually cashback and rakeback are the most popular benefits of all the casino since they offer up to 20% RTP for this benefits which is huge if you are a whale player betting consistently.

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Quote from: Accardo on February 28, 2023, 11:47:36 AM

Do you think online casinos should step up and offer items to consistent low rollers in their platform?

They should if there are demands from players to give them valuable items, but unlike offline casinos, they can hand it over but online casinos will need to ship them and that's already an additional cost especially if the custom in that area is very strict because their coverage is worldwide it will be unfair if they offer valuable stuff but you can only send it to players from specific countries, so the best that they can give are kinds of stuff that are online based.

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Quote from: Accardo on February 28, 2023, 11:47:36 AM

Do you think online casinos should step up and offer items to consistent low rollers in their platform?

Yes of course there's nothing wrong with the online casinos giving it a higher tip to encourage it users, we also should in other way consider that live casinos makes implementation without having to go through the process an online casino goes through, they mean to effect any changes within minutes and this is base on the level of outcome they have realized in recent times, online casinos need to follow protocols before the implementation of something nee for gamblers and they wouldn't want to risk their site been over crowded woth abuse on bonus whereas the gamblers are not staying, they can work on it by choosing the commited ones over years and appreciating them.

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Quote from: Lanatsa on March 02, 2023, 05:50:29 PM

Its business and not a charity which it would really be just a wrong mindset and believe that these companies or owners would really be lowering out something just to give out some advantage into its players?

Its just a suicide thing and no business would definitely be doing such thing because they do know that it could really make a huge effect on them on longer runs.They might really be altering some percentage
but not that much because house would be always at advantage and they wont really be letting themselves being on the negative side.

About offerings and bonuses then it would be understandable that there are things which arent applicable on a certain key area.

I agree, different casinos has their own way to attract gamblers attention that will make them to stay, play or create account for them. It is really entertaining to play in physical casinos aside from you can meet your friends in real life and play with them you can actually play comfortably because of those things they are offering in online casinos they can attract people by giving some rewards, affiliate bonuses , free spins and it is more convenient to play online. Set for an example here in our country , an online casino hire many influencers so that people will gamble in their website.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on March 03, 2023, 01:15:51 AM

I have tried to discuss this in the past, but it was shot down...

My suggestion was that casinos offer people discount vouchers for fast food or even vouchers for drinks at certain bars. There are definitely food and bar franchises out there that would partner with online casino's to offer vouchers to their customers. Huh

My local "Brick n Mortar" casinos offer free drinks for certain VIP customers and a all you can eat buffet at a very low price... and that is definitely one of the things that draw many gamblers. They even have free babysitting services for the kids in a very secure entertainment area. Roll Eyes

My take on this is that physical casinos are more inclined to offer those kinds of perks and advantages, because the consumption of drinks and meals is done very close to the casino or the gamble section. So people can feel more "in the mood" to gamble.

The challenge for online casinos is that they cannot be as sure as "brick n mortar" ones, that people are having the full experience of drinking or eating while gambling, to enhance the experience. Ideally, they want us to have a nice beer while rolling dices or playing slots.

A solution I see (that big online casinos could do), would be to partner with local restaurants/delivery services to send drinks and food to selected gamblers, while they are having a long session. It would be about some logistics and letting the casino know what one's preferred food or alcoholic beverage is.

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In my opinion, the best incentive for gamblers at online casinos is a higher percentage of payout, honesty of the owner and a low threshold of withdrawal because it increases the probability of winning, but most of them come to the casino because of the winnings. And it doesn't matter what it will be, as even a small win makes our body produce dopamine, which is what attracts us to gambling.

The house will never gave up their percentage especially if they are already making profit out of it, they’d rather give more promotions that to lower the threshold which might affect their business later on. The site should value their players regardless of its money, because everyone is contributing to their business though most of the site gives more value to their VIPs and I think its fine as long as they also have other promotions.

What difference does it make to the casino owner how he will increase customer loyalty? Do you think that drawing a car will attract more players than increasing the return to the player conditionally from 91% to 96%? The car will win just one gambler, but the increase in return to the player will be felt by every gambler in this casino. If you still make a mechanism that will be open to all to confirm the rate of return to the player, it is sure to be a sensation.

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Quote from: Oasisman on March 03, 2023, 02:05:04 AM

I don't think casinos would do that, because in the first place, they operate to earn cash against their players. Most of the time, the bonuses they offer is something that they already have or part of their assets, like hotel accomodations for a land base casino with hotel, or free rollers or some percentage cash in rewards for online casinos.
They don't literally give you cash directly.

Even with online casinos they don't give you cash directly, they instead offer you opportunities to earn cash instead by offering bonus spins and whatnot. It's a non-existent thing at the time they give it out, and even if you use it, it only has a small chance of becoming something that actually exists. That's just how marketing works imo. As for brick-and-mortar bonuses, I've said it before in my previous post, it's simply partnerships and the like I think, they work together in a way that brings more profit than expenditures.

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This is an interesting thing to point at- house edge does indeed give casinos the "edge" in terms of their overall strategy and winning on their matches.

Though online gambling casinos are designed and created under the mechanics of provably fair inputs, how does this apply in physical casinos? I am quite curious if there is a difference between gambling online vs gambling in a physical casino in terms of winning/losing.

Wouldn't it simply take into account randomness via human medium? I mean provably fair was only used in online since we couldn't exactly see the process behind finding the result, say the shuffling and checking of the table in poker.

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House edge is biggest factor why casinos make so much money, some casinos offer highest reward to high level Vips. Bc.game offers exclusive Vip benefits on 5 star hotel suits with reimbursing travel fees. Svip accounts have this opportunity but I think concrete cash rewards are better than offline offers.

I don't think casinos would do that, because in the first place, they operate to earn cash against their players. Most of the time, the bonuses they offer is something that they already have or part of their assets, like hotel accomodations for a land base casino with hotel, or free rollers or some percentage cash in rewards for online casinos.
They don't literally give you cash directly.

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As a devout player myself, I must confess that I've never been drawn to the idea of joining a slot club - whether on the internet or in the physical world. That said, while loyalty programs in land-based casinos are more alluring, I believe that online casinos are working diligently to ensure that their players are content. There are many bonuses and promotions to be had that can prove to be quite profitable.

I support the notion of offering rewards to those who consistently place low bets. It's an excellent way to encourage players to devote more of their time and resources to the platform. Imagine winning gadgets, vouchers, or even trips to far-off locales! Naturally, the rewards should be reasonable and achievable; otherwise, players may become disheartened.

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I have tried to discuss this in the past, but it was shot down...

My suggestion was that casinos offer people discount vouchers for fast food or even vouchers for drinks at certain bars. There are definitely food and bar franchises out there that would partner with online casino's to offer vouchers to their customers. Huh

My local "Brick n Mortar" casinos offer free drinks for certain VIP customers and a all you can eat buffet at a very low price... and that is definitely one of the things that draw many gamblers. They even have free babysitting services for the kids in a very secure entertainment area. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: seoincorporation on February 28, 2023, 12:12:05 PM

Well, just like the real casinos offer some free stuff to their customers, online casinos provide some things like: RakeBack, CashBack, VIP programs, free spins, chat rains, and Social Networks Giveaways...

Just a buttress-root, though not often but there are few cases where online casinos offers to provide unexpensed paid trips and free shoppings to high valued and VIP ustomers based on certain criteria sets just to boost and encourage more patronage. And they also have other little ways they carry the low spender gamblers along too.

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The house will never gave up their percentage especially if they are already making profit out of it, they’d rather give more promotions that to lower the threshold which might affect their business later on. The site should value their players regardless of its money, because everyone is contributing to their business though most of the site gives more value to their VIPs and I think its fine as long as they also have other promotions.

I remember this was one of the strategies that dice sites used to offer, they'd have a level system that focuses on lowering the house edge. I agree with what you've said and that's what casinos are doing nowadays through their VIP rewards, back then VIPs are only for high rollers and you need to hit a certain requirement to be eligible but now they're including every type of gambler and they can earn rewards as long as they're playing regularly.

Casinos have prepared more promotions for their customers but not all customers will be interested in joining them and will choose which one they prefer. Maybe every few days, the casino will send the promotion to all its members via email and there may be many people who didn't check the promotion so they are too late to join it. But the casino will give prizes to VIP members loyal to playing at their place using big money.

And reach the VIP level takes a lot of money and time, so not everyone can achieve it. And online casinos cannot provide promotions like offline casinos do because of the limitations that online casinos have. But online casinos will try to provide the best for all their members.

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House edge is biggest factor why casinos make so much money, some casinos offer highest reward to high level Vips. Bc.game offers exclusive Vip benefits on 5 star hotel suits with reimbursing travel fees. Svip accounts have this opportunity but I think concrete cash rewards are better than offline offers.

what is 5 star hotel accommodation when they are earning millions of dollars from those VIP members Grin

I think that is just a peanut of how much they are earning from each players .
I may not attain that VIP in every site I played but of course the bonuses they are giving to me is enough for me to stay playing.
and about the House edges ? that is the money machine of each gambling sites Grin

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Quote from: goaldigger on March 02, 2023, 04:55:01 PM

The house will never gave up their percentage especially if they are already making profit out of it, they’d rather give more promotions that to lower the threshold which might affect their business later on. The site should value their players regardless of its money, because everyone is contributing to their business though most of the site gives more value to their VIPs and I think its fine as long as they also have other promotions.

I remember this was one of the strategies that dice sites used to offer, they'd have a level system that focuses on lowering the house edge. I agree with what you've said and that's what casinos are doing nowadays through their VIP rewards, back then VIPs are only for high rollers and you need to hit a certain requirement to be eligible but now they're including every type of gambler and they can earn rewards as long as they're playing regularly.

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Quote from: Accardo on February 28, 2023, 11:47:36 AM

Do you think online casinos should step up and offer items to consistent low rollers in their platform?

I think the adjustment should be on the low rollers. The current bonuses given on what you see at some sites should be enough, at least.

It's unfair if low rollers will also have a good offer that is not that closed against high rollers. In order to achieve something big in rewards at any platform, then the users themselves should make their way up to build and establish their respective accounts.

Online casinos are giving good perks to high rollers because they are just returning the effort that these gamblers did and staying loyal.

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Quote from: Accardo on February 28, 2023, 11:47:36 AM

I've noticed the loyalty programs of online casinos ranging from withdrawal limits to bonuses, but they're not as enticing as the local casino's slot clubs in places like Las Vegas Casino and Caesar's casino in Atlantic city for instance, that offer comps to active players; free hotel rooms, food, shows and events etc. We play online and how can such a club be useful or achievable? shipping comps to players for time spent and money lost playing online isn't it a strong marketing technique for an online casino that wish to boost its customer base and attract more players? Was wondering and even researched to see online casino slot clubs, but didn't find any. Do you belong to a slot club offline or online? Maybe the free playing bonus represents that for online casino, yet players complain how difficult it is to win playing with bonus.

Do you think online casinos should step up and offer items to consistent low rollers in their platform?

Yeah, I have been a member of several online casinos in my area, few benefits here and there but sometimes I will be chosen as random winners, but just for small winnings, but in terms of like raffles for cars, I have never won it.

Although one time as a member I was given a free hotel stay for a night or two.

I'm not a high roller or something though. As for those so called "free" bonus, the chances are very slim to win on it, but I know people who got money from just free spins being offered by some casinos.

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Quote from: Accardo on February 28, 2023, 11:47:36 AM

I've noticed the loyalty programs of online casinos ranging from withdrawal limits to bonuses, but they're not as enticing as the local casino's slot clubs in places like Las Vegas Casino and Caesar's casino in Atlantic city for instance, that offer comps to active players; free hotel rooms, food, shows and events etc. We play online and how can such a club be useful or achievable?

Do you think online casinos should step up and offer items to consistent low rollers in their platform?

That's interesting but how can you offer that to online players who live on the other side of the globe, will you send money to hotels or travel tours to do that on behalf of the casino, that's quite complicated and not all casinos will go to the extent of doing that.
Offline casinos are very much different from online casinos, offline casinos can offer free dining and free room in one of the rooms where the casino is located, many casinos are located in first-class hotels and it's easy for them to do because they have the players physically present, online casinos will need to hire the service of agency to do that.

My same point in my first reply.
Online gambling sites may have other things to offer but it will be way different than physical casinos giveaway. Bonuses are the first that will pop into our minds since it's the easier method and can instantly be given. But, if gamblers are willing to wait, gift checks or things can also be a good choice.
If they are cryptocurrency-based casinos and sports bookies, something like jerseys, memorabilia, or collectibles can also be offered. Package deliveries are not that expensive at this time anymore, or if they really want to go cheap, NFTs can also be a choice.
There are so many ways now to make an online gambling site more exciting, it's just that it became limited because of the pandemic that happened.
It will take some time for adjustments.

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House edge is biggest factor why casinos make so much money, some casinos offer highest reward to high level Vips. Bc.game offers exclusive Vip benefits on 5 star hotel suits with reimbursing travel fees. Svip accounts have this opportunity but I think concrete cash rewards are better than offline offers.

^Definitely right that the house edge is a significant factor that contributes to the profits of casinos.
It is good for the casinos that are constantly looking for ways to enhance their players' experiences and incentivize their high rollers to keep coming back. Whether it is through a lower house edge or exclusive VIP benefits, casinos understand the importance of providing value to their customers. Because if I am a gambler, luxurious accommodations, and travel reimbursements can provide a level of convenience and comfort that may be more valuable to some players than a simple cash reward.

This is an interesting thing to point at- house edge does indeed give casinos the "edge" in terms of their overall strategy and winning on their matches.

Though online gambling casinos are designed and created under the mechanics of provably fair inputs, how does this apply in physical casinos? I am quite curious if there is a difference between gambling online vs gambling in a physical casino in terms of winning/losing.

I remember I visited this physical casino in our country and there was this old guy who was famous for notoriously betting huge amounts of money in a single night. Quickly, all the servers went and served him the best whiskey that they could find. He also seemed like he was a God there with all the complementaries being offered at him.

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In my opinion, the best incentive for gamblers at online casinos is a higher percentage of payout, honesty of the owner and a low threshold of withdrawal because it increases the probability of winning, but most of them come to the casino because of the winnings. And it doesn't matter what it will be, as even a small win makes our body produce dopamine, which is what attracts us to gambling.

The house will never gave up their percentage especially if they are already making profit out of it, they’d rather give more promotions that to lower the threshold which might affect their business later on. The site should value their players regardless of its money, because everyone is contributing to their business though most of the site gives more value to their VIPs and I think its fine as long as they also have other promotions.

Its business and not a charity which it would really be just a wrong mindset and believe that these companies or owners would really be lowering out something just to give out some advantage into its players?

Its just a suicide thing and no business would definitely be doing such thing because they do know that it could really make a huge effect on them on longer runs.They might really be altering some percentage
but not that much because house would be always at advantage and they wont really be letting themselves being on the negative side.

About offerings and bonuses then it would be understandable that there are things which arent applicable on a certain key area.

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Quote from: Accardo on February 28, 2023, 11:47:36 AM

I've noticed the loyalty programs of online casinos ranging from withdrawal limits to bonuses, but they're not as enticing as the local casino's slot clubs in places like Las Vegas Casino and Caesar's casino in Atlantic city for instance, that offer comps to active players; free hotel rooms, food, shows and events etc. We play online and how can such a club be useful or achievable?

Do you think online casinos should step up and offer items to consistent low rollers in their platform?

That's interesting but how can you offer that to online players who live on the other side of the globe, will you send money to hotels or travel tours to do that on behalf of the casino, that's quite complicated and not all casinos will go to the extent of doing that.
Offline casinos are very much different from online casinos, offline casinos can offer free dining and free room in one of the rooms where the casino is located, many casinos are located in first-class hotels and it's easy for them to do because they have the players physically present, online casinos will need to hire the service of agency to do that.

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House edge is biggest factor why casinos make so much money, some casinos offer highest reward to high level Vips. Bc.game offers exclusive Vip benefits on 5 star hotel suits with reimbursing travel fees. Svip accounts have this opportunity but I think concrete cash rewards are better than offline offers.

^Definitely right that the house edge is a significant factor that contributes to the profits of casinos.
It is good for the casinos that are constantly looking for ways to enhance their players' experiences and incentivize their high rollers to keep coming back. Whether it is through a lower house edge or exclusive VIP benefits, casinos understand the importance of providing value to their customers. Because if I am a gambler, luxurious accommodations, and travel reimbursements can provide a level of convenience and comfort that may be more valuable to some players than a simple cash reward.

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Quote from: FatFork on March 02, 2023, 12:21:41 PM

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In my opinion, the best incentive for gamblers at online casinos is a higher percentage of payout, honesty of the owner and a low threshold of withdrawal because it increases the probability of winning, but most of them come to the casino because of the winnings. And it doesn't matter what it will be, as even a small win makes our body produce dopamine, which is what attracts us to gambling.

The house will never gave up their percentage especially if they are already making profit out of it, they’d rather give more promotions that to lower the threshold which might affect their business later on. The site should value their players regardless of its money, because everyone is contributing to their business though most of the site gives more value to their VIPs and I think its fine as long as they also have other promotions.

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Quote from: Accardo on February 28, 2023, 11:47:36 AM

Do you think online casinos should step up and offer items to consistent low rollers in their platform?

I don't think so, because being realistic, it's not going to be profitable for casinos doing this. Imagine if they offered expressive rewards to every low rollers of the platforms. The amount lost by those gamblers while betting wouldn't be enough to pay back the expenses casinos would have rewarding them.

Physical casinos do wealthy promotions, because they are directed to wealthy rollers, that is the target audience. They would never give access to free hotels' rooms, food, and drinks if their expenses were higher than the income being generated by gamblers for casinos.

If casinos will always allow their players to win, they could have losses and won't be able to have enough funds to sustain their business. Gambling is a huge business and casinos won't focus on the winning result of their VIPs because their focus is to earn as well. They earn a lot from their VIPs so they will value them the way they can but will not spend everything on them with expensive and luxurous rewards.

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Quote from: Accardo on February 28, 2023, 11:47:36 AM

Do you think online casinos should step up and offer items to consistent low rollers in their platform?

I don't think so, because being realistic, it's not going to be profitable for casinos doing this. Imagine if they offered expressive rewards to every low rollers of the platforms. The amount lost by those gamblers while betting wouldn't be enough to pay back the expenses casinos would have rewarding them.

Physical casinos do wealthy promotions, because they are directed to wealthy rollers, that is the target audience. They would never give access to free hotels' rooms, food and drinks if their expenses were higher than the income being generated by gamblers for casinos.

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Quote from: FatFork on March 02, 2023, 12:21:41 PM

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In my opinion, the best incentive for gamblers at online casinos is a higher percentage of payout, honesty of the owner and a low threshold of withdrawal because it increases the probability of winning, but most of them come to the casino because of the winnings. And it doesn't matter what it will be, as even a small win makes our body produce dopamine, which is what attracts us to gambling.

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It's true that online casinos can't offer the same physical rewards as brick-and-mortar casinos, but they compensate for it by offering site-wide bonuses and promotions. As others have pointed out, these bonuses usually come with tiered structures and some online casinos even give out physical rewards like gift cards, watches, trips and even cars.

Overall, it's up to each individual casino to come up with their own unique retention strategies that work for their customers. While high rollers may bring in a significant amount of revenue, there are many more small-time players or low rollers who also contribute to the casino's profits. Therefore, it makes sense for online casinos to offer some kind of compensation or incentive to these players as well, to keep them engaged and coming back to play. As long as the site offers good bonuses and promotions that exceed expectations, it will likely keep its customers happy and coming back for more.

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Quote from: Accardo on February 28, 2023, 11:47:36 AM

Do you think online casinos should step up and offer items to consistent low rollers in their platform?

As far as I know, casinos are detected with gambling activities by means of a system that rarely discloses their financial activities publicly, organizations and clubs, most people who visit online or offline casinos see the greatness of the gambling products they offer to customers/visitors with different motives.

In fact, every online or offline casino business has basic principles, not to form groups, clubs and so on, the basic principles that are currently being implemented in the casino business are: users who bet on losing are made even more curious and conversely winning users are made even more addicted to betting again.

Forming a club is more towards the nature of socialism and humanity, the gambling business does not have that nature, gambling is more towards the nature of being used such as bonuses, drugs, sex and so on, it is on the basis of that principle that no gambling business implements a club, gambling prefers to make visitors curious and addicted.

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Offline casinos' customers are associated with travel, hotels, and other material luxuries, this is not the case in online casinos, especially in Cryptocurrency based online, offline Casino knows their customers or patrons are those who love to travel and go to fine dining they have their identity and their status, compared to online casinos where their customers are hiding behind a username and you need to do KYC to know their status.
But things are changing Stake and other top casinos are now giving luxury items to their high rollers but I don't think other casinos can keep up with that.

This is an accurate answer. Players of physical casino has different preferences on players of offline casino. And sending the benefits of offline casino to online casino players might be useless since they choose online game because they want to go outside and play. Also Rakeback and Cashback is already enough to compensate with the rewards of the offline casino since high roller often gets huge amount of money on this kind of bonuses which is already sufficient to purchased travel tickets, hotel booking and luxury restaurants.

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Quote from: Accardo on February 28, 2023, 11:47:36 AM

Do you think online casinos should step up and offer items to consistent low rollers in their platform?

That should be done, but the casino when carrying out promotions does not only aim for whales but for all players, only taking part in promotions with attractive prizes is often a fear for small players because they have thought how much funds must be spent to be able to pursue these prizes, and so far Online casinos often offer attractive prizes and some time ago there was an online casino that also offered holidays to Dubai but because they don't have an announcement thread here, only their sister site, so it doesn't get much publicity here.
I have always been a fan of playing at online casinos and the land based casinos never considered going there and playing.

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Offline casinos' customers are associated with travel, hotels, and other material luxuries, this is not the case in online casinos, especially in Cryptocurrency based online, offline Casino knows their customers or patrons are those who love to travel and go to fine dining they have their identity and their status, compared to online casinos where their customers are hiding behind a username and you need to do KYC to know their status.
But things are changing Stake and other top casinos are now giving luxury items to their high rollers but I don't think other casinos can keep up with that.

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Quote from: Accardo on February 28, 2023, 02:03:34 PM

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But, it seems such VIP programs would take a high roller to get to such level on the club. However it's impressive.

it's the same with offline casinos. when offline casinos get free drinks, meals and hotels they surely also need big moves to get all of that.
I mean when an offline casino provides facilities like you said, of course what is given is the rich people who gamble there. so offline casinos have marketing giving all of that for free to make these rich people feel at home there and continue to gamble in that location.
just like online casinos, when you want to get VIP facilities, at least gamblers must have big steps or big capital to reach the VIP level.

so for me online casinos and offline casinos have their own way of doing promotions with all the proper facilities for their customers.

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Slot clubs and comps did already exist in online casinos. You just need to pick the most rewarding ones. Usually, they are the big one or casinos which are currently at the top because they won't achieved that level if they are overall poor. If you still can't be satisfied and thinks that what you saw on the two local places that you mention are still much better than them then why can't you just stick on them?

I think I also saw an online casinos which has a physical items on them as one of their rewards. Items like iPhone, car, and watch. There are also online casinos who offer a trip to some countries but I think these all are only accessible to those who wager hard.

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I think the topic shouldn't be subject to comparison because of an obvious difference between physical casinos and online casinos in terms of anything related to bonuses, perks, rewards, etc. Just because we see physical rewards being offered in land-based casinos, online casinos should also consider it. Not unless those land-based casinos do have their own online casino version, maybe the same perks being offered on their physical casinos can also be the same as their online casino version.

Just be fortunate and glad that there are online gambling sites that offer physical rewards, especially if that's a crypto-gambling platform. For example, freebitco.in is giving a chance to its users to win a Rolex and Lambo although honestly, I don't know the authenticity of it as never I saw a winner lurking here in the forum but no big deal for me as they are really legit and paying as an online casino.

But in general, don't expect that kind of reward in online casinos. As long as the site is offering good bonuses and promotions that are above anyone's expectation, I think that's enough and physical rewards will just be a big bonus.

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I'm not part of any slot club or any gambling club. The only community that I'm currently part and does discussions is through here and in my real life, I don't discuss much related to gambling because I know what people might think of me, those that surrounds me and even I think of them are real friends, there could be some new impression that I may not like if it's from them. With regards to the gamblers in a casino that don't gamble much, they wouldn't think of them IMHO. But they'll do offers that are attractive whether you're small or big time gambler and from there, they'll reconsider what might be a popular promo for everybody.

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I don't think you will be needing that much perks in online casinos like you do in land-based casinos anyway, and clubs that you speak of are already translated into site-wide bonuses that online casinos are giving (rakeback, cashback, free spins, etc.). There are also tiered structures for these bonuses, so in a way it acts like a 'club' that only certain people can be a part of when they hit a certain threshold for money wagered on their account. Not really the best there is, but online casinos also reward their loyal patrons with something albeit not as lucrative or crazy as the casinos you mentioned (which, most of the time is only reserved for the high rollers anyway).

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Quote from: Accardo on February 28, 2023, 11:47:36 AM

I've noticed the loyalty programs of online casinos ranging from withdrawal limits to bonuses, but they're not as enticing as the local casino's slot clubs in places like Las Vegas Casino and Caesar's casino in Atlantic city for instance, that offer comps to active players; free hotel rooms, food, shows and events etc. We play online and how can such a club be useful or achievable? shipping comps to players for time spent and money lost playing online isn't it a strong marketing technique for an online casino that wish to boost its customer base and attract more players? Was wondering and even researched to see online casino slot clubs, but didn't find any. Do you belong to a slot club offline or online? Maybe the free playing bonus represents that for online casino, yet players complain how difficult it is to win playing with bonus.

Do you think online casinos should step up and offer items to consistent low rollers in their platform?

I belong to online as what you described,free food,drinks and hotel rooms are not enticing to me in the sense that my privacy is traded when I go there a lot of other people see me and recognize me as a gambler which is the last thing on earth that I want for myself.

When online no ones knows you except when you KYC when you want to withdraw a big amount and only the verification team at the casino knows your identity no one else,sure the bonuses may be less than offline ones but as long as they also give you bonuses every week and month I think I should be happy with that.The fact that every bet is taken into consideration in online casinos and that they give you different tiers of bonuses make it appealing even for new players.

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Casinos could offer those things on their platforms but I don't know. I just don't know how.

E-commerce shipping is a simple means of sending gifts or items to people around the globe, they can reach out to companies that has gift cards like Amazon and colloborate with them to enable a giftcard package or better offer gift cards to members of their slot clubs to enable them buy whatever they need on such platforms. No need for free hotel nights as someone pointed out, if not I would have also recommended some hotel like Marriot that enable worldwide bookings.

Well, they're no comparisons, its just like comparing the bank to bitcoin in terms of existence and money made from people. Yet the online casino is not as strong as the offline casino regarding age and government connections. Though nobody knows if the market would change in future, nothing beats giving back, no matter how little, to players these are practices that can boost the online casino's audience.

But I guess those who play gambling in online casinos may not need such things.
Alternatively, online casinos can provide something different from offline casinos, such as giving bonuses or free spins to loyal customers.
And I think so far, online casinos have really tried to satisfy their customers with various attractive offers, which of course, have attracted many gamblers to follow them and try to get them.
Each casino, whether online or offline, has its own way of satisfying its customers and will apply it in many events.
And I'm sure online casinos can also develop well even though they don't implement things like offline casinos.

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Quote from: Accardo on February 28, 2023, 11:47:36 AM

Do you think online casinos should step up and offer items to consistent low rollers in their platform?

It will depend on their demand, if they've got more low rollers then they'll do something to increase those bettors to have more bets. Yeah, like a wagering contest and whatnot.

But AFAIK, they don't care that much with low rollers and they only care and give more VIP option to their big players but that doesn't mean that they don't give importance to them. It is that there's more incentive to the bigger ones than the lowers.

They might conduct a survey and study about that if there's really a demand that pushes them in doing so.

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Both, land-based casinos and online casinos, use different marketing and customer retention techniques. While land-based casinos offer free food, event tickets, or rooms to stay for a night, online casinos offer VIP privileges like extra bonuses, higher deposit bonuses, more chances to hit a jackpot, etc.

It's difficult for an online casino to offer more than this to its customers. And about small rollers, I agree that they should also get at least a little bit of compensation for their time and consistency towards the casino. If an online casino starts to offer something like that to its regular small rollers, it will probably get more traffic, as we all know that there are more small rollers out there than high rollers. So retention of small rollers should be a part of their marketing strategies.

for small rollers, online casinos can offer contest like what i've seen in betfury, the $150 free-to-play funfury battle. you can get certain amount of funfury token and use it to bet, and you don't need to spend real money to join. you can test how good you are in betting to get high profits also. so casinos can think of similar concept to small rollers just to engage them in being active on the site. this idea is not hard to implement, if they have dedicated individuals to take care of this feature. they don't need high amount to launch. and look at how many players will join the event.

Similar to this bitsler have provided access for its users to claim bitsler tokens regularly. These tokens can be used to play on the platform. There is regular wagering race separately for bitsler tokens and for the other cryptocurrencies. Winner of the bitsler tokens wager winner also paid in bitcoin.

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Quote from: redsun114 on March 01, 2023, 04:22:29 PM

Both, land-based casinos and online casinos, use different marketing and customer retention techniques. While land-based casinos offer free food, event tickets, or rooms to stay for a night, online casinos offer VIP privileges like extra bonuses, higher deposit bonuses, more chances to hit a jackpot, etc.

It's difficult for an online casino to offer more than this to its customers. And about small rollers, I agree that they should also get at least a little bit of compensation for their time and consistency towards the casino. If an online casino starts to offer something like that to its regular small rollers, it will probably get more traffic, as we all know that there are more small rollers out there than high rollers. So retention of small rollers should be a part of their marketing strategies.

for small rollers, online casinos can offer contest like what i've seen in betfury, the $150 free-to-play funfury battle. you can get certain amount of funfury token and use it to bet, and you don't need to spend real money to join. you can test how good you are in betting to get high profits also. so casinos can think of similar concept to small rollers just to engage them in being active on the site. this idea is not hard to implement, if they have dedicated individuals to take care of this feature. they don't need high amount to launch. and look at how many players will join the event.

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Quote from: redsun114 on March 01, 2023, 04:22:29 PM

Both, land-based casinos and online casinos, use different marketing and customer retention techniques. While land-based casinos offer free food, event tickets, or rooms to stay for a night, online casinos offer VIP privileges like extra bonuses, higher deposit bonuses, more chances to hit a jackpot, etc.

It's difficult for an online casino to offer more than this to its customers. And about small rollers, I agree that they should also get at least a little bit of compensation for their time and consistency towards the casino. If an online casino starts to offer something like that to its regular small rollers, it will probably get more traffic, as we all know that there are more small rollers out there than high rollers. So retention of small rollers should be a part of their marketing strategies.

Not all casinos would really be that mindful about those shrimp players on which they would really be focusing into those bigger ones considering on how these fellas do contribute big when it comes to revenue but its

true that there's should be at least some balance if we do speak about benefits and perks which those VIP's arent the ones who would be able to experience but also those small time gamblers which it would really be
giving that kind of boost.In speaking about application of bonuses and perks then it would be understandable that there are things which cant really be applied on online like free food or drinks
which is understandable and thats why they do really have those differences.

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Both, land-based casinos and online casinos, use different marketing and customer retention techniques. While land-based casinos offer free food, event tickets, or rooms to stay for a night, online casinos offer VIP privileges like extra bonuses, higher deposit bonuses, more chances to hit a jackpot, etc.

It's difficult for an online casino to offer more than this to its customers. And about small rollers, I agree that they should also get at least a little bit of compensation for their time and consistency towards the casino. If an online casino starts to offer something like that to its regular small rollers, it will probably get more traffic, as we all know that there are more small rollers out there than high rollers. So retention of small rollers should be a part of their marketing strategies.

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Quote from: Accardo on February 28, 2023, 11:47:36 AM

I've noticed the loyalty programs of online casinos ranging from withdrawal limits to bonuses, but they're not as enticing as the local casino's slot clubs in places like Las Vegas Casino and Caesar's casino in Atlantic city for instance, that offer comps to active players; free hotel rooms, food, shows and events etc. We play online and how can such a club be useful or achievable? shipping comps to players for time spent and money lost playing online isn't it a strong marketing technique for an online casino that wish to boost its customer base and attract more players? Was wondering and even researched to see online casino slot clubs, but didn't find any. Do you belong to a slot club offline or online? Maybe the free playing bonus represents that for online casino, yet players complain how difficult it is to win playing with bonus.

Do you think online casinos should step up and offer items to consistent low rollers in their platform?

Online casinos got their own thing going on with VIP programs, free bonuses, and a lot more. I see a lot of online casinos offer stuff that aren't really loyalty programs per se, but almost always acts like one if you'll ask me. For instance, VIP programs on some online casinos offer the same benefits as one would receive had they been added to a live casino's loyalty program. So as of now I do think there's no need for casinos to include some loyalty programs, although soon as the market calls for it, because as we all know, seasons change especially in the gambling industry, I'm pretty sure they'd keep up with it and would include said feature wholeheartedly, but as it stands today, they don't see the need to do so, and would not do it as a result.

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Quote from: Accardo on February 28, 2023, 11:47:36 AM

I've noticed the loyalty programs of online casinos ranging from withdrawal limits to bonuses, but they're not as enticing as the local casino's slot clubs in places like Las Vegas Casino and Caesar's casino in Atlantic city for instance, that offer comps to active players; free hotel rooms, food, shows and events etc. We play online and how can such a club be useful or achievable? shipping comps to players for time spent and money lost playing online isn't it a strong marketing technique for an online casino that wish to boost its customer base and attract more players? Was wondering and even researched to see online casino slot clubs, but didn't find any. Do you belong to a slot club offline or online? Maybe the free playing bonus represents that for online casino, yet players complain how difficult it is to win playing with bonus.

Do you think online casinos should step up and offer items to consistent low rollers in their platform?

How are online casinos meant to offer comps, like free hotel rooms or food? They could be run from a single small office on the opposite side of the world. Somebody is paying for all those freebies and it's almost always the player that has lost a substantial amount of money, enough to cover all these supposedly complimentary things. If you lose $200 and they can throw a $100 hotel room your way to let you lose another $500, that makes good business sense. Online casinos and sportbooks offer all sorts of better value promotions, plus you are more in control of your spending, if you choose to be. You have the odds presented to you in a much clearer way as well, allowing you to gauge how badly you're being screwed on certain games.

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There is no guarantee they can squeeze money from low rollers after they become a member. But it should be worth a try as long as the low rollers are spending BTC on the platform. So ye step up and be as inclusive as possible even just becoming Rank 2 in the casino is worth trying.

They can make separate giveaways or be more personal about giving bonuses. Anything that makes a user stay longer is worth trying for a casino that wants to thrive.

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Quote from: madnessteat on February 28, 2023, 02:09:44 PM

Quote from: Accardo on February 28, 2023, 11:47:36 AM

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I think it's about time the casino realized that it offers various incentives like free hotel rooms, food, drinks, etc. only to those players who are willing to spend their money in this casino.

If you're not willing to lose enough money at the casino to cover hotel room rentals, food and drinks, then there's no point in the casino holding you back. It's a marketing ploy to retain a wealthy customer and nothing more.

And I must add that the casinos which offer those comps experience almost no cost to themselves by doing so, food and drinks can be very expensive at a casino but they can offer them for free to high rollers as those costs are easily recovered from the sales they make to other customers, and when it comes to hotel rooms there is almost no cost for themselves either as the room is there already without anyone occupying it, so while those comps look good on the surface they are nothing for a physical casino, while it will be way more expensive for an online casino to try to give the same kind of bonuses due to the differences between the two.

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In my opinion, it makes sense that online casinos mostly reward wager level over consistency. In the end, casinos keep themselves in business thanks to the high wager people can accumulate, and thus it is good to reward high rollers.

Besides, one cannot ignore that there are differences, between an online casino and a resort casino, some resort could easily afford to offer some low wager gamblers a free meal or a room for a night (specially out of holidays seasons, when vacancy is high), since the price of the reward to the resort is very small.

On the other hand, for an online casino, those physical resources are not so accessible and it would require them to actually invest some money in logistics, deliveries and related expenses.

I am not against the idea of some small rewards, though, but the profitability of the business cannot be ignored, after all, who would not like an online casino to send you an burger to your home as reward for your activity? Wink

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Quote from: traderethereum on March 01, 2023, 06:13:36 AM

Casinos could offer those things on their platforms but I don't know. I just don't know how.

E-commerce shipping is a simple means of sending gifts or items to people around the globe, they can reach out to companies that has gift cards like Amazon and colloborate with them to enable a giftcard package or better offer gift cards to members of their slot clubs to enable them buy whatever they need on such platforms. No need for free hotel nights as someone pointed out, if not I would have also recommended some hotel like Marriot that enable worldwide bookings.

Well, they're no comparisons, its just like comparing the bank to bitcoin in terms of existence and money made from people. Yet the online casino is not as strong as the offline casino regarding age and government connections. Though nobody knows if the market would change in future, nothing beats giving back, no matter how little, to players these are practices that can boost the online casino's audience.

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It's simply the difference between online and brick-and-mortar casinos. Besides, said bonuses are actually planned out, with the casino themselves receiving partnerships of sorts with said hotels, restaurants, shows, you name it. So they profit in both ways, online, I doubt people would be willing to redeem said bonuses even if they were made available simply because that's just how "online" casinos work. And even if said bonuses were described as "hard to win", well, that's just how slots go. I doubt they'd add a modifier that lets people win more with bonuses.

As for adding more, I fully agree with how they need more variety of sorts. But unless one casino steps up to do so, I doubt anyone would actually follow suit.

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Quote from: Accardo on February 28, 2023, 11:47:36 AM

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Do you think online casinos should step up and offer items to consistent low rollers in their platform?

Of course not... I think that free rooms and food, tickets for various events are given to those who are members of the club and wager a lot of money. In the end, it's all about the wagering.

And in some crypto casinos, top VIP levels get tickets for cruises, hotels, various trips, and events. But we need to wager millions to get there... maybe that's why it's good to stick to one casino, over time we can get high even with some smaller bankrolls and some decent bankroll management skills.

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I am a gambling player who plays gambling at online casinos and I never compare services between online casinos and offline casinos.
I feel that online and offline casinos are different and will provide services based on the situation in each casino.
And so far, online casinos have tried to provide the best service for their customers by giving bonuses or rewards to loyal players who play at their place.
And as a gambler who doesn't gamble at online casinos too often, I never complain if I haven't gotten a bonus or something like the players who often gamble at the casino.
Casinos could offer those things on their platforms but I don't know. I just don't know how.

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Quote from: madnessteat on February 28, 2023, 02:09:44 PM

Quote from: Accardo on February 28, 2023, 11:47:36 AM

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I think it's about time the casino realized that it offers various incentives like free hotel rooms, food, drinks, etc. only to those players who are willing to spend their money in this casino.

If you're not willing to lose enough money at the casino to cover hotel room rentals, food and drinks, then there's no point in the casino holding you back. It's a marketing ploy to retain a wealthy customer and nothing more.

Its certain slot clubs are for marketing purposes, but it wasn't made for only high rollers. Low rollers also make it to the point where they're allowed to sleep 2 nights free and eat good foods. It depends on consistency and how many hits the player makes in 24hours. Even some casinos offer lots of coupons to people that rarely visit the casino, but belong to their slot club. The slot club card work in different ways to keep players in the casino and to attract them to visit again in future. In a nutshell, a low roller can get comps too, the problem casinos owners face sometimes with low rollers is that they may not play games after being given free nights, free show tickets, and food, which is a bad practice. Though some players claim that they won't play if the casino replaced their machines with low payback machines.

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Quote from: Accardo on February 28, 2023, 11:47:36 AM

Do you think online casinos should step up and offer items to consistent low rollers in their platform?

Yes, they have to step up if they want to keep their players because eventually there would be other online casinos that are willing to take that risk first if it means gaining more players.

It might just be my preference but I honestly think the bonus money that some online casinos are offering is the way to go for the low rollers because it gives flexibility on what they could get than receiving a specific item or prize. I don't mind if they provide a different prize because you might as well take it when other casinos barely give out any rewards regardless if you play regularly or not.

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Quote from: Accardo on February 28, 2023, 11:47:36 AM

Do you think online casinos should step up and offer items to consistent low rollers in their platform?

I think this is a marketing and return strategy.
Why would they invest money in a game player eventually? Most likely it will not give the return that the casino deserves.

I support the fact that they need to recognize the players who really invest their money and time in the casino, in order to keep the already loyal players always interested in staying on the site, because if there are no such rewards, then it is very likely that it will to another website.

As for occasional players, I believe that even if he receives some reward, he will still be an occasional player, who has low activity and will hardly generate a return to the casino.

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It's online, it's difficult to give physical bonuses to gamblers especially if they are playing from faraway lands.
The big perk that we have is easy access to gambling. When it comes to offers and events, I think they are trying so hard that it's difficult to find a new offer for their players.
Stake.com have a nonstop event for their players in either casino games or sports gambling. Events like "first to hit a multiplied amount" for slots, and double winnings for sports gambling as long it's under the terms and conditions.

Let's give them more time, perhaps they are also thinking about what else they can offer their loyal players. For now, I am satisfied with whatever bonuses I can receive.

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Quote from: Accardo on February 28, 2023, 11:47:36 AM

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Do you think online casinos should step up and offer items to consistent low rollers in their platform?

I think online gambling casinos should somehow incentivize its users in consistently playing on their platform. But remember that this is one of the features that online players suffer when playing on this kind of platform. They suffer the consequences of NOT experiencing the complementaries being offered if you visit a physical casino, but the drawback is the convenience of playing anytime online.

I think I remembered someone posting on a Reddit Watch board where the gambling company sent him one (1) credit where he would be able choose a watch for free (e.g. Rolex, IWC, Omega, and other luxury brands) as a way of saying gratitude. Though he did disclose that he spent like $100,000 on a monthly basis.

Personally, I do think that online casinos should at least give more on this kinds of offers, not just withdrawal bonuses and deposits.

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Its one of the main differences when you do deal whether on an online or offline casinos on which even if these online casino owners do like to offer something that we could see the same into those
physical places but how they would be doing it? Sending out some comps? It is really truly opposing anonymity and privacy considering that people here on crypto space doesnt
really want for their identity to be exposed which means that it would really be just that be on this way on where people do just simply accept it out.
If ever there would be new promotions and bonuses then it is good but applying out with those offline-like compensations then it isnt something that
could be easily integrated.

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Accommodation? well that's more likely for big land based casinos to provide and is seeming to be impossible for online platforms to also do so. Being on online platform is their way to promote convenience for the players. Also, they are already paying for the overall maintenance of their gambling platform alrwady as well as offering discounts and bonuses in order to retain and attract new players in this industry. They cannot give that much such as hotel room accommodation as an additional, because it would be loss on their end to happen. There are many gambling sites which do exist at the present and their edge over one another are bonuses unlike with landbased which are battling over compensating their big players thru services. So maybe, since online and landbased casinos are two different platform, there is a different market competition as well.

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Quote from: Accardo on February 28, 2023, 11:47:36 AM

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I think it's about time the casino realized that it offers various incentives like free hotel rooms, food, drinks, etc. only to those players who are willing to spend their money in this casino.

If you're not willing to lose enough money at the casino to cover hotel room rentals, food and drinks, then there's no point in the casino holding you back. It's a marketing ploy to retain a wealthy customer and nothing more.

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Quote from: seoincorporation on February 28, 2023, 12:12:05 PM

Well, just like the real casinos offer some free stuff to their customers, online casinos provide some things like: RakeBack, CashBack, VIP programs, free spins, chat rains, and Social Networks Giveaways...

And that's the way to attract customers and to give them a reason to stay, I mean, it is better to get free drinks and a free hotel room, but that's impossible to offer in online casinos. But I have seen some VIP programs online that offer things like a Rolex or a Tesla.

It's a good method to reach out to players, I mean the Rolex and Tesla is the kind of gift that can substitute the pleasure offline casino comps provide to players and would make online casino fun especially the casino you are referring to. But, it seems such VIP programs would take a high roller to get to such level on the club. However it's impressive.

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Well, just like the real casinos offer some free stuff to their customers, online casinos provide some things like: RakeBack, CashBack, VIP programs, free spins, chat rains, and Social Networks Giveaways...

And that's the way to attract customers and to give them a reason to stay, I mean, it is better to get free drinks and a free hotel room, but that's impossible to offer in online casinos. But I have seen some VIP programs online that offer things like a Rolex or a Tesla.

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I've noticed the loyalty programs of online casinos ranging from withdrawal limits to bonuses, but they're not as enticing as the local casino's slot clubs in places like Las Vegas Casino and Caesar's casino in Atlantic city for instance, that offer comps to active players; free hotel rooms, food, shows and events etc. We play online and how can such a club be useful or achievable? shipping comps to players for time spent and money lost playing online isn't it a strong marketing technique for an online casino that wish to boost its customer base and attract more players? Was wondering and even researched to see online casino slot clubs, but didn't find any. Do you belong to a slot club offline or online? Maybe the free playing bonus represents that for online casino, yet players complain how difficult it is to win playing with bonus.

Do you think online casinos should step up and offer items to consistent low rollers in their platform?

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