Topic: Only way might be economic slow down to save our envoirement (Read 139 times)

yep, recessions are not a solution. just a band aid that hurts once you peel it away. the real solution is financial planning at all levels to actually manage economic destinies of the future rather than the instant gratification of greed

An economic slowdown rescuing the environment is nonsense. Stifling the economy won't work. When you destroy the economy, you cut funding for the innovation that will rescue our asses. Who will fund the next solar power breakthrough if the system collapses? Don't think a recession is a panacea. Wall Street types can talk about "market adjustments", but what about everyone else? Job losses and lower earnings are disastrous. People that are struggling aren't focused on long-term sustainability, right? They worry about feeding and housing their families. Instead of asking for a recession, why not teach financial responsibility and savvy investing? Let's empower people to manage their own economic destinies instead than relying on others' misfortune to preserve the earth

It is certainly true that we are doing serious damage to the environment to improve our economic condition but before doing the damage we don't think that we are living in this environment and by damaging the environment we are not doing well at all. Climate change is caused by heavy rains, droughts or untimely floods but these harmful effects on the environment. Along with improving our economic condition we must try so that we can improve our economic condition while maintaining environmental balance. Arrangements should be made to dispose of garbage in a modern way and also the polluted water used in the factories should be cleaned first and then discharged into the river. Maybe our money costs will be a little higher and the profit will be a little less then we must look at the environment.

You don't need to try hard to have your daily needs.
The big banks and financial instutions or goverment will make sure you have daily needs either by AID or loans.
You might get mortgage with lower rate.
You either become financially very well or you fall into support scheme you either choose who you gona be but one thing is for sure goverment and big instutions want you to be busy to be productive instead of chasing wealth and money and you need to consume less so more shops will be closed that's for sure.

There are many things we can gain by slowing down the economy to save the environment, but this is less effective because we really need the current economy, in this case we have many scientific experts, there must be a solution that is more effective and provides a better solution Good.

And if this happens, then people will try as hard as they can to fulfill their daily needs, and the fatal consequence is that people will try their best, either violating the norms or laws that apply in that country, and by saving the environment it will have a very big impact. If it is big for the economy, it will be fatal for us as a society. We must be sure that world scientists will also provide the best solutions so that our needs and the environment can coexist.

the environment is not at threat as some presume
carbon is the key to life its not the weapon of life

the issues you hear on the news is because 100's of years ago no one was stupid to create homes and businesses in deserts.
the issues you hear on the news is because 100's of years ago no one was stupid to create homes and businesses in floodlands.
the issues you hear on the news is because 100's of years ago no one was stupid to create homes and businesses on faultlines.

however the economy of modern times has become stupid to build in badlands.. so when the news reports that people lose their homes, get harmed by weather, they blame the weather, however the truth is those homes and peoples lives are affected because they chose to buy/live in area's that are not naturally human sustainable

the weather has never been stable its always in change. however modern times media present weather as being fixed where there is a false belief that area's should have predictive weather and then present the change as being a fault
(EG false media presentation that it also snows at christmas/doesnt rain in summer)

yes we as humans have affected weather, for instance consuming a lakes water to a higher capacity than the natural water cycles replenishment of that lake. we concrete/asphalt over land so instead of rain soaking into land to refill underground aquifers, it hits man made structures, gets filtered into sewers which pipe it into the sea with all our waste. we dam up rivers thus decrease access to clean freshwater to area's downriver

as for the economy:
1000 years ago, many pioneers would create villages at river crossings lowest point where many neighbouring villages would use when nomadic, which became hubs of connecting people together as a common point different people came into contact with each other. inspiring commerce/shelter at these points

but lately(last 400 years) silly places of no-mans-lands no one wanted, thus cheap. got claimed and built on. where they had no regional migration routes, and instead had to create them unnaturally and then risk the consequences of the land, as well as the risks of the created false economies of these silly locations

lets take california nevada, arizona
just looking at the land, the rocky mountains, the grand canyon the deserts.
the land is not naturally supportive of human existence. even 400 year ago this was seen
however in the last 400 years silly people claim those lands and built on them where its not a natural supportive area, but had to create false economics of demand to create the support economics to survive

if you counted the inches of snow that falls on the mountains in gallons 400 years ago and then count the gallons that human consumption needs today. the amount of water flow back then vs the population levels today of the 3 states that rely on that water show that the consumption is higher than the water cycles replenishment so even back then we could have predicted that those 3 states are not suitable for todays utility

it even gets worse when the water is used for farming production to then export to other further area's meaning you then have to include the population numbers of greater america and EU's consumption rate into the maths of the 3 states, again even 400 years ago you could predict those 3 states cannot support the consumption of exports today

so its not the weather to blame. its the foolishness of humans not understanding the environment

the best solution is to stop residential/retail/farming developers from buying the cheap badlands, stop them building on those badlands and instead inspire development on safe/sustainable/replenishing lands.

in short
there is no point having the news report about how in the 3 states the temperatures reach 50^o in summer and how people living there are suffering "due to weather".. and instead politicians/developers and even people in general need to realise people should not be living there anyways because the last 1000 years show that its not a area sustainable for millions of people. yes those millions of people are then consuming more than the replenishment rate of water of that area, thus affecting it more...  ..but again the underlying problem is they should not be there in such numbers in the first place

I can totally agree with that, the industrialization should've ended a long time ago and it's probably in our best interest that we would see some changes to that, there's probably enough land stripped of it's natural resources to create something that the environment won't have to suffer, but we all know that when this kind of things happen, the profit of the companies benefiting from the destruction of the environment is going to do everything in their power to try and make sure that the things that would hurt them won't happen. It's a good thing to increase economic activity too if we take care of the environment, imagine the increase in tourism when you do that, it's going to be more than a country typically earns in their tourism campaign.

Instead of halting every economic activity, let us instead look for ways to make both economic growth and environmental protection overlap one another. Many scientists are looking for different methods to apply in different fields to reduce the environmental impacts that harm the planet.

We need to learn how to live in a balanced and sustainable world. The removal of one factor will also lead to depression of a lot of people and might result to even worse consequences.

The big funds openly working towards this goal.
But why scared? You Will be more protected by goverment food aid housing aid and working plans.
Nobody dont force over you nothing If you are Independent person and can be successful then for you will be btc and USDT and other regular crypto to use and If you are smart enough to use and you can be wealthy and well good person financially then you make your own life and own rules but If you are not then goverment will provide for you together with wall steeet bankers housing Job and food it's just you have to play their rules If you get support from them.
But now it's your time to become Independent don't be scared but all of that it's actual plan.
Like the Jamie dimon the ceo of j.p Chase said higher rates for longer.
And yes ESG enforcement rules will be all over and yes Blackrock Will be one of main enforcement guys.
But yes we want to reduce consuming most of countries and they will do that.
The dream wealthy living when middle class can dine and wine like some wall st boss will be dream only soon all the Luxury time spending will make people consuming too much and the goal will be stop that consuming and this goal will be taken very seriously.
Some people can consume and spend money for Luxury but not everyone because the goal is to save envoirement think about If they can make consume usa less just 30% in one year then it's a big win focus is usa canada china and even russia because of big population there and heavy consuming comes from those places also India have problem with that.

Did you get these ideas from listening to Whitney Webb's podcasts?
I heard these before from her when she was warning her listeners about what WEF plans are and digital IDs and all stuff like ESG to gather all information of individuals. If the economy is this bad that it will drag us back to the 1920 great depression, something has to be done. Real or imagined, it scares the shit out of us.

We cannot slow down the economic activities all because we wanted to save the environment, as to be precise, we need to have an increase in the economical activities before we can be able to safe the environment, all we could do is to make use of the advanced technology in making conversion of the waste and harmful materials, substance released into the environment into a useful renewable end products for man use, we are in the era of using one problem in bringing a solution to the other.

By looking at wef and even the blackrock plans.
It seems like If this year will be last rate cuts of fed.
the letter to the bl holders said: " we will have 10 years no grouwth.
Off course If we continue with this path the heavy consuming even brand clothes used ones will end somewhere in our nature as rubbish.
The economic slow down will decrease the consuming.
Off course wall street always will make sure markets are full of funds but they make sure that money does not come into real life economy so the wages can't go up they come down even more.
To be honest we really consume more than our nature and envoirement can handle.
The only pathway will be economic slow down and stop of money printing end of the bond Market and instead of bonds Banks and instutions have crypto and rRWA tokens on their balance sheet. ( So you Will be asset rich If you hold any assets )
All the loans will be only by collateral If they want to take down all the economy.
It's not deflation right to way but slowly getting there.
But Even when economy going down those who operate with markets will be well funded just they make sure real economy don't get funds and companies don't pay high wages so the workers can consume.
So the pathway for most of the people will be you have food housing but nothing too much and goverment will aid with food and housing but it will be allmost impossible for you to have extra wealth only If you can Travel to other countries where Will be easy to cash out your crypto for example EL Salvadore.
And due the strict money laundering rules and other rules of Banks it will be harder at least in USA Canada UK and some part of Europe or Even you want to cash out you need to pay very high taxes.
The pathway of economy are when most people Are equal no matter you police doctor or teacher you all equal you don't things like "wealth "and If you do have in order to cash out this you go through by the a lot paper work and questions so If you have crypto you better Travel to countries where process to cash and enjoy your wealth will be easy and no paying taxes.
And small business owners can't exist because it will create rich communties and wealth that will create too much consumers and air pollution.
The car insurance and car fuel price should going up also so you better think If you want to own and use car at all.
Solution for people who want to be wealthy learn finances and investing game that's the only way in future and only people who are allowed to be rich according this new economic pathway but off course you can fully enjoy that money in Dubai Monaco or EL salvadore kind of places Because you should not do anything that will make real life economy booming cash limits of ATM will be reduced and Even that the card transaction limits will be reduced so that you not going to consume too much.
And eaqual wages no matter who you are you will earn equal wage ( gender equality and Also ESG enforcement)