of the fiat system and all it's rules and AML/KYC regulations. We should accept that part, if we want to convert back to fiat. The solution is to keep everything in Bitcoin and stay
pseudo-anonymous and border-less, without all these restrictions.
Topic: Open a bank account without many papers that will respect my privacy (Read 2451 times)
December 29, 2015, 07:45:25 AM
I think you just touched on the most controversial side of Bitcoin.... You have some pseudo-anonymity until you need to convert to fiat... then you have to deal with the limitations
of the fiat system and all it's rules and AML/KYC regulations. We should accept that part, if we want to convert back to fiat. The solution is to keep everything in Bitcoin and stay
pseudo-anonymous and border-less, without all these restrictions.
of the fiat system and all it's rules and AML/KYC regulations. We should accept that part, if we want to convert back to fiat. The solution is to keep everything in Bitcoin and stay
pseudo-anonymous and border-less, without all these restrictions.
December 28, 2015, 07:08:36 PM
You might find useful to take a look at Fidor Bank. They have some free current accounts. Registration can be done online and they not used to ask too many questions. They are also pretty much bitcoin friendly (e.g. bitcoin.de made have integration with Fidor accounts), so Fidor unlikely to freeze your account because of bitcoin related activities.
December 28, 2015, 05:47:44 PM
Yes i can buy from local people btc when the price is 410 euro they sell 465 euro lol 
No way !
The problem for example with Kraken is that i can deposit euro only from my my bank account and when i do a job on the net and a user want to pay me they can't sent them there
They sent euro to my main bank account that i have the capital control....
So a bank account on another place is perfect for me but when i say privacy i was talking if it is possible when someone do a deposit on the IBAN to may not see my name and surname.
the best way for you is https://www.cashila.com/ you can open as many acount you want and stay anonimus only for 1000 $ a year but you just need a difrent mail and that it No way !
The problem for example with Kraken is that i can deposit euro only from my my bank account and when i do a job on the net and a user want to pay me they can't sent them there
They sent euro to my main bank account that i have the capital control....
So a bank account on another place is perfect for me but when i say privacy i was talking if it is possible when someone do a deposit on the IBAN to may not see my name and surname.
if you gona play with big money there is no way of anonimus and is also way risky for you
find other person that have bitcoin and buy them in person is the best way
December 18, 2015, 07:17:14 PM
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I am looking to open a bank account outside of Greece to avoid capital control.
You know what, purchase Bitcoin with your money. And exchange it into perfect money. Perfect money does not have any limits on how much money an unverified account can hold.
December 17, 2015, 07:23:27 AM
crypto is here for this reason, there is no persoanl id require for when you open a client of bitcoin, this is why i like it, i hate when the taxman can control every fucking movemements you do, it's like your money are not your, but belong to them
if you want a bank account that do not require id, you need i think one of those creditc ard without an account, that allow you to spend bitcoin anonymously, but they have high fee
if you want a bank account that do not require id, you need i think one of those creditc ard without an account, that allow you to spend bitcoin anonymously, but they have high fee
December 17, 2015, 07:13:40 AM
Hi
I am looking to open a bank account outside of Greece to avoid capital control limits so i can get payments there and then to be able to sent them to online exchange sites so i can buy Bitcoins
Is such a service exist? It will be great if they don't ask a lot of papers and don't reveal a lot of my personal info.....
Thank you
I don't think there is a bank that will allow you to open an account without showing any form of identification. Banks needs identification to know who they are dealing with. I am looking to open a bank account outside of Greece to avoid capital control limits so i can get payments there and then to be able to sent them to online exchange sites so i can buy Bitcoins
Is such a service exist? It will be great if they don't ask a lot of papers and don't reveal a lot of my personal info.....
Thank you
December 17, 2015, 07:12:50 AM
The amazing thing is that i can use up to 1000 euro transactions without any verification
Is there any other related service?
Is there any other related service?
Sounds good but i wouldnt use the service without some positive feedback first.
You can check our official thread here at Bitcointalk: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-cashila-transfer-hold-and-receive-funds-using-btc-eur-fully-licensed-1268399 where you can find some positive reviews.
But in short, Cashila is legit. We are a small startup and probably the only service that has a license to do bitcoin to SEPA transactions. Also we are regulated by the Czech National Bank, so all your fund are safe.
We did more than 1.000.000 EUR transactions for our customers in this year, which is by itself impressive.
Feel free to try us at https://www.cashila.com/
If you register, PM me your email, so I'll credit you 500 EUR of 0% fee transfers - as we have a special offer for all new Bitcointalk users
December 17, 2015, 07:09:29 AM
Why don't you just invest in Bitcoin? Wouldn't that be an easier way to send online transactions? That's what I would do if I was in your shoes.
That's a great option as well. You don't need to fill out anything like you do when opening up a bank account. It's best to invest into bitcoin, make profits rather than going through all the hassle of opening up a bank account in a different country.
December 17, 2015, 12:34:59 AM
Why don't you just invest in Bitcoin? Wouldn't that be an easier way to send online transactions? That's what I would do if I was in your shoes.
December 16, 2015, 10:53:00 PM
Most banks if they have some name behind them will ask for proof of income and other personal details, it's just the way it is and it's actually required by the government so I don't see how you can avoid that unless you want to trust some shady ones with your money.
December 16, 2015, 10:48:00 PM
Hi
I am looking to open a bank account outside of Greece to avoid capital control limits so i can get payments there and then to be able to sent them to online exchange sites so i can buy Bitcoins
Is such a service exist? It will be great if they don't ask a lot of papers and don't reveal a lot of my personal info.....
Thank you
I am looking to open a bank account outside of Greece to avoid capital control limits so i can get payments there and then to be able to sent them to online exchange sites so i can buy Bitcoins
Is such a service exist? It will be great if they don't ask a lot of papers and don't reveal a lot of my personal info.....
Thank you
UK is the best.Even his online services like Neteller,Skrill,Entropay are cool.Better to verify account,but driving licence
is enough
Like EU member i canopen bank account where i want.Only USAb citzens are living in prison camp
December 16, 2015, 08:07:18 PM
I am looking to open a bank account outside of Greece to avoid capital control.
Aliens (non-resident people) can not open bank account in many countries now because of the terrorist law (word choosen).
So, use local bitcoin seller instead and deal with your restricted cash per week.
Or you can trust somes quoted sellers with local bank wire ...
December 16, 2015, 08:01:50 PM
Yes i can buy from local people btc when the price is 410 euro they sell 465 euro lol
No way !
The problem for example with Kraken is that i can deposit euro only from my my bank account and when i do a job on the net and a user want to pay me they can't sent them there
They sent euro to my main bank account that i have the capital control....
So a bank account on another place is perfect for me but when i say privacy i was talking if it is possible when someone do a deposit on the IBAN to may not see my name and surname.
No way !
The problem for example with Kraken is that i can deposit euro only from my my bank account and when i do a job on the net and a user want to pay me they can't sent them there
They sent euro to my main bank account that i have the capital control....
So a bank account on another place is perfect for me but when i say privacy i was talking if it is possible when someone do a deposit on the IBAN to may not see my name and surname.
I don't think the ~10% premium for local purchase is unreasonable. Unless you were talking about a whole bunch of coins, of course.
December 16, 2015, 07:24:18 PM
You can open a bank account in Switzerland or in London, without much hassle, you'll just need to show your passport, and give them an address where they will send you your card and access codes to your account. Most likely, they will ask you to keep a minimum balance of at least 10,000 €.
Forget everything you read about opening a bank account as a non-resident without physically visiting the bank. There are lawyers who can open a bank account for you in Singapore without you leaving Europe, but they charge 1,500 € for the service, so it's cheaper to travel there.
In the good old days, in Switzerland or Austria, it was possible to open a bank account without even showing your passport, but those days are long gone...
Forget everything you read about opening a bank account as a non-resident without physically visiting the bank. There are lawyers who can open a bank account for you in Singapore without you leaving Europe, but they charge 1,500 € for the service, so it's cheaper to travel there.
In the good old days, in Switzerland or Austria, it was possible to open a bank account without even showing your passport, but those days are long gone...
December 16, 2015, 04:44:10 PM
Hi
I am looking to open a bank account outside of Greece to avoid capital control limits so i can get payments there and then to be able to sent them to online exchange sites so i can buy Bitcoins
Is such a service exist? It will be great if they don't ask a lot of papers and don't reveal a lot of my personal info.....
Thank you
I am looking to open a bank account outside of Greece to avoid capital control limits so i can get payments there and then to be able to sent them to online exchange sites so i can buy Bitcoins
Is such a service exist? It will be great if they don't ask a lot of papers and don't reveal a lot of my personal info.....
Thank you
There are many countries where you can open an account, however every country will require personal information. Some to look at would be Singapore, Hong Kong, BVI, Cayman Islands and Seychelles.
I don't know of any anonymous bank accounts.
Some options:
Bitcoin ATMs that take cash.
Sell goods for BTC
December 16, 2015, 03:41:54 PM
Hi
I am looking to open a bank account outside of Greece to avoid capital control limits so i can get payments there and then to be able to sent them to online exchange sites so i can buy Bitcoins
Is such a service exist? It will be great if they don't ask a lot of papers and don't reveal a lot of my personal info.....
Thank you
I am looking to open a bank account outside of Greece to avoid capital control limits so i can get payments there and then to be able to sent them to online exchange sites so i can buy Bitcoins
Is such a service exist? It will be great if they don't ask a lot of papers and don't reveal a lot of my personal info.....
Thank you
There are many countries where you can open an account, however every country will require personal information. Some to look at would be Singapore, Hong Kong, BVI, Cayman Islands and Seychelles.
December 16, 2015, 03:25:18 PM
@pamamolf, you should check also Number26 & LeuPay for getting an IBAN account. Not actually banks (warning for large amount 
), but electronic payment services with partnership with banks. Check these Greek links for more info:
http://www.insomnia.gr/topic/591637-number26-%CF%84%CF%81%CE%B1%CF%80%CE%B5%CE%B6%CE%B9%CE%BA%CE%AE-startup-%CE%B3%CE%B5%CF%81%CE%BC%CE%B1%CE%BD%CE%B9%CE%BA%CF%8C%CF%82-%CE%BB%CE%BF%CE%B3%CE%B1%CF%81%CE%B9%CE%B1%CF%83%CE%BC%CF%8C%CF%82-%CE%BA%CE%B1%CE%B9-mastercard/
http://www.insomnia.gr/topic/590606-leupay-mastercard-%CE%BA%CE%B1%CE%B9-leupost/
), but electronic payment services with partnership with banks. Check these Greek links for more info:http://www.insomnia.gr/topic/591637-number26-%CF%84%CF%81%CE%B1%CF%80%CE%B5%CE%B6%CE%B9%CE%BA%CE%AE-startup-%CE%B3%CE%B5%CF%81%CE%BC%CE%B1%CE%BD%CE%B9%CE%BA%CF%8C%CF%82-%CE%BB%CE%BF%CE%B3%CE%B1%CF%81%CE%B9%CE%B1%CF%83%CE%BC%CF%8C%CF%82-%CE%BA%CE%B1%CE%B9-mastercard/
http://www.insomnia.gr/topic/590606-leupay-mastercard-%CE%BA%CE%B1%CE%B9-leupost/
December 16, 2015, 03:22:36 PM
Ok let's hope that a user here is using it and give us some more info
December 16, 2015, 03:08:35 PM
The amazing thing is that i can use up to 1000 euro transactions without any verification
Is there any other related service?
Is there any other related service?
Sounds good but i wouldnt use the service without some positive feedback first.
December 16, 2015, 03:04:04 PM
I don't think this is possible. You're going to have to show your ID and give out your personal information if you want to open up a bank account outside of Greece. It is possible to open up a bank account anywhere in Europe though.
This is true. Banks are always going to need a record of your personal info, they need an address, phone number, name etc. in order for them to open up a bank account.
December 16, 2015, 03:03:19 PM
Yes i can buy from local people btc when the price is 410 euro they sell 465 euro lol
No way !
The problem for example with Kraken is that i can deposit euro only from my my bank account and when i do a job on the net and a user want to pay me they can't sent them there
They sent euro to my main bank account that i have the capital control....
So a bank account on another place is perfect for me but when i say privacy i was talking if it is possible when someone do a deposit on the IBAN to may not see my name and surname.
No way !
The problem for example with Kraken is that i can deposit euro only from my my bank account and when i do a job on the net and a user want to pay me they can't sent them there
They sent euro to my main bank account that i have the capital control....
So a bank account on another place is perfect for me but when i say privacy i was talking if it is possible when someone do a deposit on the IBAN to may not see my name and surname.
December 16, 2015, 03:01:18 PM
You would need something like Switzerland I guess. I have never used that kind of banking where they supossedly have a privacy policy with their clients. I don't really believe it and as we say data can leak. The ideal situation would be to get your Bitcoins locally, but I guess it's pretty hard in Greece to find sellers that you can meet in real life with.
Theres also no swiss bank account without the need of providing ID and other papers. The next thing is that these days all swiss BA have to be opened at the bank branch in person and are quite expensive. Not the best choise i think.
December 16, 2015, 02:49:48 PM
You would need something like Switzerland I guess. I have never used that kind of banking where they supossedly have a privacy policy with their clients. I don't really believe it and as we say data can leak. The ideal situation would be to get your Bitcoins locally, but I guess it's pretty hard in Greece to find sellers that you can meet in real life with.
December 16, 2015, 02:43:08 PM
I don't think this is possible. You're going to have to show your ID and give out your personal information if you want to open up a bank account outside of Greece. It is possible to open up a bank account anywhere in Europe though.
December 16, 2015, 02:41:26 PM
Why don't you buy Bitcoins with cash? I heard that there are some tourists in Greece which use the free limit for cash in order to sell some Bitcoins there. It is the easiest way in my opinion. There is no honest way to create a (legal) bank account without many papers.
December 16, 2015, 02:30:01 PM
This is not an easy solution at least for me but yes is an option...
December 16, 2015, 02:11:42 PM
I think that if you have a good sum of money, you can open a Swiss bank account. If you have a friend that live in another country, you can give him physical euros to credit his account and then buy you the Bitcoins. This solution is a bit risky because you have to really trust him but of course if you don't have any other way this may maybe help you for little sums or big ones if it is a relative or your best friend.
December 16, 2015, 01:57:36 PM
The amazing thing is that i can use up to 1000 euro transactions without any verification
Is there any other related service?
Is there any other related service?
December 16, 2015, 01:10:36 PM
The service https://www.cashila.com/ sounds great . Would be even better if there would be a possibility to order a debit card that is connected to the account.
Are there some reviews of people who used the service for some time?
. Would be even better if there would be a possibility to order a debit card that is connected to the account.Are there some reviews of people who used the service for some time?
December 16, 2015, 11:51:10 AM
I don't have problem to get verified by senting my ID and a house bill as i do for most online exchange sites
But i don't want to sent 20 papers for a bank account and the most important to no require from me to go to the bank
I don't want to do any fraud actions !
cashila looks good
But i don't want to sent 20 papers for a bank account and the most important to no require from me to go to the bank
I don't want to do any fraud actions !
cashila looks good
December 16, 2015, 10:19:00 AM
I am just looking for a way to deposit money with IBAN or maybe credit/prepaid cards to my account and then sent to online exchange sites a simple IBAN bank transfer to get some Bitcoins
There's an easier way.. check https://www.cashila.com/ which works as an online bank account.You can fund your account with bitcoin or an IBAN transfer, and withdraw your EUR funds to another IBAN account or convert straight to bitcoin and withdraw to your bitcoin wallet.
December 16, 2015, 08:33:42 AM
There is no that i know of that wont ask for much id as then you could use it for fraud etc.
December 16, 2015, 07:26:48 AM
Thanks all of you
I am just looking for a way to deposit money with IBAN or maybe credit/prepaid cards to my account and then sent to online exchange sites a simple IBAN bank transfer to get some Bitcoins
I am just looking for a way to deposit money with IBAN or maybe credit/prepaid cards to my account and then sent to online exchange sites a simple IBAN bank transfer to get some Bitcoins
Go look for several banks in stable European countries such as Germany, Netherlands, Belgium, Switzerland, Austria. There are plenty enough options to choose from. Try to read their requirements for opening a bank account and find the one with the least hassle and the lowest fees. It will be a hard job though.
December 16, 2015, 06:44:26 AM
Normally they ask a lot of paper, ID is one of the minimum requirement when we conduct business of course so drivers license would do. Some banks in my country only ask photo copy of 2 valid IDs and a 2x2 photo.
December 16, 2015, 06:31:40 AM
Thanks all of you
I am just looking for a way to deposit money with IBAN or maybe credit/prepaid cards to my account and then sent to online exchange sites a simple IBAN bank transfer to get some Bitcoins
I am just looking for a way to deposit money with IBAN or maybe credit/prepaid cards to my account and then sent to online exchange sites a simple IBAN bank transfer to get some Bitcoins
December 16, 2015, 06:28:19 AM
Op, I found good article for you. It clears some question you had about offshore banking: http://nomadcapitalist.com/offshore-banking/
And it Banking offshore 100% legal, but not many people knows about that and use it, because it is the secret your government is hiding from you to keep your money close.
And it Banking offshore 100% legal, but not many people knows about that and use it, because it is the secret your government is hiding from you to keep your money close.
December 16, 2015, 06:23:56 AM
Hi
I am looking to open a bank account outside of Greece to avoid capital control limits so i can get payments there and then to be able to sent them to online exchange sites so i can buy Bitcoins
Is such a service exist? It will be great if they don't ask a lot of papers and don't reveal a lot of my personal info.....
Thank you
I am looking to open a bank account outside of Greece to avoid capital control limits so i can get payments there and then to be able to sent them to online exchange sites so i can buy Bitcoins
Is such a service exist? It will be great if they don't ask a lot of papers and don't reveal a lot of my personal info.....
Thank you
There are several European banks that will allow you to create an account even if you don't live in that country.
I can tell you right away that there isn't a bank that won't require to fill in papers, email them ultra high res scans of your id or passport, proof of where you live, an electricity bill where it is clearly showing your address or any other bill. There will be a lot paper work involved. It might take several weeks at most to get a working account after all the hassle you have to go through.
And what do you mean with: don't reveal a lot of my personal info.....
Each transaction that you do with your bank account has your name sticked to it. If Greece authorities want the details from the people that are having a bank/savings account outside the country, they will simply contact the bank in question.
December 16, 2015, 05:51:58 AM
Need also not insane fees for deposits/transactions
I will wait for members recommendations if anyone here is using or know any good service.....
I will wait for members recommendations if anyone here is using or know any good service.....
December 16, 2015, 05:02:34 AM
I don't know much but try searching some offshore banks..
December 16, 2015, 04:56:12 AM
Hi
I am looking to open a bank account outside of Greece to avoid capital control limits so i can get payments there and then to be able to sent them to online exchange sites so i can buy Bitcoins
Is such a service exist? It will be great if they don't ask a lot of papers and don't reveal a lot of my personal info.....
Thank you
I am looking to open a bank account outside of Greece to avoid capital control limits so i can get payments there and then to be able to sent them to online exchange sites so i can buy Bitcoins
Is such a service exist? It will be great if they don't ask a lot of papers and don't reveal a lot of my personal info.....
Thank you
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