Such a shame you guys didn't get the info you require to move on with projects using this chip.
Its a rock solid alternative to a bitfury. I would even go as far as to say better Quality and stability
Topic: [OPEN] BM1380 Worldwide Chip Groupbuy (Read 7327 times)
I think this groupbuy is dead without some reverse engineering. After speaking with Bitmain, they made it apparent they they never intend to release the protocol. If we want to use the BM1380, we must buy their control board.
Our options at this point are to buy their proprietary equipment, sniff the BM1380 protocol... or just buy Bitfury's now that they're back in production. I know which direction I'm going to choose.
Our options at this point are to buy their proprietary equipment, sniff the BM1380 protocol... or just buy Bitfury's now that they're back in production. I know which direction I'm going to choose.
+1
I don't feel like using or even worse reselling someone's black box either.
If they want other people to develop miners using their chips - they must release the entire documentation.
If they just want to keep the monopoly on their chip's usage - they may as well just continue making their own stuff.
I'm perfectly happy with bitfury and A1 for now.
Has this gb ever moved? The order is still 1000/10000. (Not being harsh)
Why is your tag "Authorised Bitmain Reseller", did he confirm it? Saw it lol 
Thanks
Thanks
I think this groupbuy is dead without some reverse engineering. After speaking with Bitmain, they made it apparent they they never intend to release the protocol. If we want to use the BM1380, we must buy their control board.
Our options at this point are to buy their proprietary equipment, sniff the BM1380 protocol... or just buy Bitfury's now that they're back in production. I know which direction I'm going to choose.
Our options at this point are to buy their proprietary equipment, sniff the BM1380 protocol... or just buy Bitfury's now that they're back in production. I know which direction I'm going to choose.
Hi there,
I'd like to purcahse a few hundred ASICs to build a prototype. Has the group buy gotten any traction?
Beastlymac, do you sell prototype lots?
I'd like to purcahse a few hundred ASICs to build a prototype. Has the group buy gotten any traction?
Beastlymac, do you sell prototype lots?
Any update with these chips? Hands down great chip IF all tech info is made available
No the chip protocol has not been released so we can't replicate the device.
Any update with these chips? Hands down great chip IF all tech info is made available
Currently we can't design our own device as we don't have the chip protocol. I would recommend just buying a U1 for now.
I've ordered a U1 from another group buy. Will sniff out the protocol, if I can. Hi
May be interested in a finished device.
USB 1 chip or 2 chip
similar design to icefury or nanofury (ultra cheap version with usb as part of pcb, if it reduces the cost)
May be interested in a finished device.
USB 1 chip or 2 chip
similar design to icefury or nanofury (ultra cheap version with usb as part of pcb, if it reduces the cost)
Currently we can't design our own device as we don't have the chip protocol. I would recommend just buying a U1 for now.
Hi
May be interested in a finished device.
USB 1 chip or 2 chip
similar design to icefury or nanofury (ultra cheap version with usb as part of pcb, if it reduces the cost)
May be interested in a finished device.
USB 1 chip or 2 chip
similar design to icefury or nanofury (ultra cheap version with usb as part of pcb, if it reduces the cost)
Put my nickname in for
150 chips ( 1.8 BTC ) // 0.012BTC Per chip
As every chip can hash 2.8GH/s @ 1.1v,
total 420 Giga for 150 chips.
150 chips ( 1.8 BTC ) // 0.012BTC Per chip
As every chip can hash 2.8GH/s @ 1.1v,
total 420 Giga for 150 chips.
@Beastlymac - any updates for this GB?
ok, Merry Christmas guys.
Put me down for 128 for now please, I may add more to the order later depending on logistics.
Just to pin my interest in 100-300 chips, so many variables as of now but I'm definitely interested!
Cheers & Best Wishes!
-akw-
Put my nickname in for
150 chips ( 1.8 BTC ) // 0.012BTC Per chip
As every chip can hash 2.8GH/s @ 1.1v,
total 420 Giga for 150 chips.
150 chips ( 1.8 BTC ) // 0.012BTC Per chip
As every chip can hash 2.8GH/s @ 1.1v,
total 420 Giga for 150 chips.
@Beastlymac - any updates for this GB?
Put my nickname in for
150 chips ( 1.8 BTC ) // 0.012BTC Per chip
As every chip can hash 2.8GH/s @ 1.1v,
total 420 Giga for 150 chips.
150 chips ( 1.8 BTC ) // 0.012BTC Per chip
As every chip can hash 2.8GH/s @ 1.1v,
total 420 Giga for 150 chips.
@Beastlymac - any updates for this GB?
if this GB will success i reserve 1000 chips .
maybe more , depending on shipping dates
maybe more , depending on shipping dates
Just found it,
cheers,
kev
cheers,
kev
go go kevin!! im couting on your team to bring us USB units!
I am interested in the S1 Design.
Can order 128 - 256 chips depending on total miner cost.
Can order 128 - 256 chips depending on total miner cost.
Buzz me if you still need this info - >> "would need the control information or the chip protocol to do so"
The chip protocol is needed if you want to create your own design. *Buzz* :-)
I'm not certain the protocol information is readily available, or has been provided by Bitmain yet. To sniff it out, we'd need someone willing to attach some electronics to their working product, or at least comfortable with a digital scope.
Buzz me if you still need this info - >> "would need the control information or the chip protocol to do so"
The chip protocol is needed if you want to create your own design. *Buzz* :-)
Those are the files we already had. The fab has informed us that the files are missing manufacturer part numbers and information relating to the pin out of the control board. I can get a quote on the hashing board itself along with the assembly cost but we can't get the information for the control board. Also we are missing the compiled pic binary so without all the information we might be forced to either re write it ourself or more likely just switch over and use a raspberry pi.
Or if the released the chip protocol we could design a control board or make a usb adapter that would plug into a host pc.
We also have the option of potentially buying control boards from them but we don't know the price of them yet.
I'm a bit confused I guess. I loaded up the control board project, and I didn't see any parts that couldn't be derived from footprint and part number, except the generic popcorn parts which you would be replacing with your preferred equivalents in your design anyway... unless you were just planning to reprint their design?Or if the released the chip protocol we could design a control board or make a usb adapter that would plug into a host pc.
We also have the option of potentially buying control boards from them but we don't know the price of them yet.
The PIC binary and hashing chip protocol are an issue though, yeah... I guess could you could sniff out the protocol pretty easily, but it sounds like you're trying to do something a little more turnkey from their original files. Keep us posted, and let us know when you plan to respond to pms. Thanks.
Yes we are aiming to replicate the S1 design and would need the control information or the chip protocol to do so. The hope was that we would be able to replicate the design instead of have to redesign parts as that would bring down the lead time and simplify production.
Sorry i missed the pm. Just responded then.
thanks
I've sold some S1 miners to buyers. (5 units)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/antminer-s1-180ghs-360w-out-of-stock-356341
Buzz me if you still need this info - >> "would need the control information or the chip protocol to do so"
Thanks for the reply. It sounds like all the sample chips are locked up in your S1 replication project, so I guess the rest of us should plan on waiting until production chips are available to test out our designs. Given how bogged down Bitmain is in meeting demand, maybe someone who already had an S1 can sniff out the protocol for you? That way you can start working on a replacement firmware in case they can't deliver the pic hex.
Talk to you again in a couple months. Let us know when payments open up. Thanks.
Talk to you again in a couple months. Let us know when payments open up. Thanks.
Those are the files we already had. The fab has informed us that the files are missing manufacturer part numbers and information relating to the pin out of the control board. I can get a quote on the hashing board itself along with the assembly cost but we can't get the information for the control board. Also we are missing the compiled pic binary so without all the information we might be forced to either re write it ourself or more likely just switch over and use a raspberry pi.
Or if the released the chip protocol we could design a control board or make a usb adapter that would plug into a host pc.
We also have the option of potentially buying control boards from them but we don't know the price of them yet.
I'm a bit confused I guess. I loaded up the control board project, and I didn't see any parts that couldn't be derived from footprint and part number, except the generic popcorn parts which you would be replacing with your preferred equivalents in your design anyway... unless you were just planning to reprint their design?Or if the released the chip protocol we could design a control board or make a usb adapter that would plug into a host pc.
We also have the option of potentially buying control boards from them but we don't know the price of them yet.
The PIC binary and hashing chip protocol are an issue though, yeah... I guess could you could sniff out the protocol pretty easily, but it sounds like you're trying to do something a little more turnkey from their original files. Keep us posted, and let us know when you plan to respond to pms. Thanks.
Yes we are aiming to replicate the S1 design and would need the control information or the chip protocol to do so. The hope was that we would be able to replicate the design instead of have to redesign parts as that would bring down the lead time and simplify production.
Sorry i missed the pm. Just responded then.
thanks
Those are the files we already had. The fab has informed us that the files are missing manufacturer part numbers and information relating to the pin out of the control board. I can get a quote on the hashing board itself along with the assembly cost but we can't get the information for the control board. Also we are missing the compiled pic binary so without all the information we might be forced to either re write it ourself or more likely just switch over and use a raspberry pi.
Or if the released the chip protocol we could design a control board or make a usb adapter that would plug into a host pc.
We also have the option of potentially buying control boards from them but we don't know the price of them yet.
I'm a bit confused I guess. I loaded up the control board project, and I didn't see any parts that couldn't be derived from footprint and part number, except the generic popcorn parts which you would be replacing with your preferred equivalents in your design anyway... unless you were just planning to reprint their design?Or if the released the chip protocol we could design a control board or make a usb adapter that would plug into a host pc.
We also have the option of potentially buying control boards from them but we don't know the price of them yet.
The PIC binary and hashing chip protocol are an issue though, yeah... I guess could you could sniff out the protocol pretty easily, but it sounds like you're trying to do something a little more turnkey from their original files. Keep us posted, and let us know when you plan to respond to pms. Thanks.
Those are the files we already had. The fab has informed us that the files are missing manufacturer part numbers and information relating to the pin out of the control board. I can get a quote on the hashing board itself along with the assembly cost but we can't get the information for the control board. Also we are missing the compiled pic binary so without all the information we might be forced to either re write it ourself or more likely just switch over and use a raspberry pi.
Or if the released the chip protocol we could design a control board or make a usb adapter that would plug into a host pc.
We also have the option of potentially buying control boards from them but we don't know the price of them yet.
Or if the released the chip protocol we could design a control board or make a usb adapter that would plug into a host pc.
We also have the option of potentially buying control boards from them but we don't know the price of them yet.
Just found it,
cheers,
kev
cheers,
kev
BitMine update git.
Now we have schematics, PCBs etc. All files need for reference design miner and controller.
Beastlymac, time for collect orders and post estimated time for delivery.
Now we have schematics, PCBs etc. All files need for reference design miner and controller.
Beastlymac, time for collect orders and post estimated time for delivery.
Gandalf,
Any link to the github repository containing all the goodies?
cheers,
kev
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitmains-bm1380-chip-is-open-for-ordering-10000-chips-for-999btc-36btcth-364236
https://github.com/AntMiner
BitMine update git.
Now we have schematics, PCBs etc. All files need for reference design miner and controller.
Beastlymac, time for collect orders and post estimated time for delivery.
Now we have schematics, PCBs etc. All files need for reference design miner and controller.
Beastlymac, time for collect orders and post estimated time for delivery.
Gandalf,
Any link to the github repository containing all the goodies?
cheers,
kev
I am happy to order as soon as I can get some rough estimates for cost
+1 .. cost and expected timeline
I am happy to order as soon as I can get some rough estimates for cost
BitMine update git.
Now we have schematics, PCBs etc. All files need for reference design miner and controller.
Beastlymac, time for collect orders and post estimated time for delivery.
Now we have schematics, PCBs etc. All files need for reference design miner and controller.
Beastlymac, time for collect orders and post estimated time for delivery.
I assume replies to PMs will go out after the PO is sorted out with bitmain?
Beastlymac,
Depending on costs for USB sticks to be manufactured and timing, I'm down for 1000 to 2000 chips.
Depending on costs for USB sticks to be manufactured and timing, I'm down for 1000 to 2000 chips.
We won't have usb cost until we have got a design and prototype tested. For that we are waiting on a response from bit main on sample chips that we can use to test the design.
Can I count for sample chip to ?
Waiting on fab price of rack size miner.
Beastlymac,
Depending on costs for USB sticks to be manufactured and timing, I'm down for 1000 to 2000 chips.
Depending on costs for USB sticks to be manufactured and timing, I'm down for 1000 to 2000 chips.
We won't have usb cost until we have got a design and prototype tested. For that we are waiting on a response from bit main on sample chips that we can use to test the design.
Can I count for sample chip to ?
Beastlymac,
Depending on costs for USB sticks to be manufactured and timing, I'm down for 1000 to 2000 chips.
Depending on costs for USB sticks to be manufactured and timing, I'm down for 1000 to 2000 chips.
We won't have usb cost until we have got a design and prototype tested. For that we are waiting on a response from bit main on sample chips that we can use to test the design.
I would be in for at least 50 depending on final cost of miner USB would be great. I would also have to pay in USD
Sorry payment is in BTC as that is what we have to pay Bitmain with.
NP understood
Beastlymac,
Depending on costs for USB sticks to be manufactured and timing, I'm down for 1000 to 2000 chips.
Depending on costs for USB sticks to be manufactured and timing, I'm down for 1000 to 2000 chips.
I can take 256 chips or more if I know the price of a miner.
I would be in for at least 50 depending on final cost of miner USB would be great. I would also have to pay in USD
Sorry payment is in BTC as that is what we have to pay Bitmain with.
I would be in for at least 50 depending on final cost of miner USB would be great. I would also have to pay in USD
Groupbuy is now open
3-500 chips depending on total cost 
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150 chips ( 1.8 BTC ) // 0.012BTC Per chip
As every chip can hash 2.8GH/s @ 1.1v,
total 420 Giga for 150 chips.
150 chips ( 1.8 BTC ) // 0.012BTC Per chip
As every chip can hash 2.8GH/s @ 1.1v,
total 420 Giga for 150 chips.
Have you filed GB for first 10k chip ?
How many clients want pay premium for short lead time?
The orders haven't been openedHow many clients want pay premium for short lead time?
Yet but we do have a large around 7-8k already reserved. In regards to the lead time fee I feel it makes sense to take that option.
Yes.
500 chips but depends on the price price after miner assembly. If you could give a rough estimate in terms of + % - % that would help me alot.
Currently we are waiting on more information from Bitmain before we can get a quote.
500 chips but depends on the price price after miner assembly. If you could give a rough estimate in terms of + % - % that would help me alot.
Have you filed GB for first 10k chip ?
How many clients want pay premium for short lead time?
The orders haven't been openedHow many clients want pay premium for short lead time?
Yet but we do have a large around 7-8k already reserved. In regards to the lead time fee I feel it makes sense to take that option.
Have you filed GB for first 10k chip ?
How many clients want pay premium for short lead time?
The orders haven't been openedHow many clients want pay premium for short lead time?
Yet but we do have a large around 7-8k already reserved. In regards to the lead time fee I feel it makes sense to take that option.
Have you filed GB for first 10k chip ?
How many clients want pay premium for short lead time?
How many clients want pay premium for short lead time?
192 chips either S1 or rack size design
We have around 7k interest in chips so far.
That's encouraging. Keep us updated on the status. :-)
Put me down for 64 chips.
I would also like to get the engineering data ASAP as I might want to try to do some design work.
I would also like to get the engineering data ASAP as I might want to try to do some design work.
I probably would but I still need to know about the actual miner designs/costs.
Yes we are working on getting that figured out now.
I probably would but I still need to know about the actual miner designs/costs.
Would everyone be interested in this?
Thanks and PM answered.
Updated with a newly added policy, Paying extra 10% can accelerate the lead time to 4 weeks.
We have already made the documents we think is completed for building a miner with our chip. We will send to some community member to review for two or three days, and we can know whether there is something that will make other EE confused or hard to understand. Then we release all the documents to the public.
My initial response is yes, but if the extra money prevents us from getting enough interest to make the buy in the first place... 10k chip is a lot of interest to gather, and I've only seen about 2k initial interest in this thread. :-(Bitmain, i send you a PM about the chips, can you please take 2 minute and answer?
Thanks and PM answered.
Updated with a newly added policy, Paying extra 10% can accelerate the lead time to 4 weeks.
We have already made the documents we think is completed for building a miner with our chip. We will send to some community member to review for two or three days, and we can know whether there is something that will make other EE confused or hard to understand. Then we release all the documents to the public.
Would everyone be interested in this?
Thanks and PM answered.
Updated with a newly added policy, Paying extra 10% can accelerate the lead time to 4 weeks.
We have already made the documents we think is completed for building a miner with our chip. We will send to some community member to review for two or three days, and we can know whether there is something that will make other EE confused or hard to understand. Then we release all the documents to the public.
My initial response is yes, but if the extra money prevents us from getting enough interest to make the buy in the first place... 10k chip is a lot of interest to gather, and I've only seen about 2k initial interest in this thread. :-( Bitmain, i send you a PM about the chips, can you please take 2 minute and answer?
Thanks and PM answered.
Updated with a newly added policy, Paying extra 10% can accelerate the lead time to 4 weeks.
We have already made the documents we think is completed for building a miner with our chip. We will send to some community member to review for two or three days, and we can know whether there is something that will make other EE confused or hard to understand. Then we release all the documents to the public.
Would everyone be interested in this?
Thanks and PM answered.
Updated with a newly added policy, Paying extra 10% can accelerate the lead time to 4 weeks.
We have already made the documents we think is completed for building a miner with our chip. We will send to some community member to review for two or three days, and we can know whether there is something that will make other EE confused or hard to understand. Then we release all the documents to the public.
Bitmain, i send you a PM about the chips, can you please take 2 minute and answer?
Thanks and PM answered.
Updated with a newly added policy, Paying extra 10% can accelerate the lead time to 4 weeks.
We have already made the documents we think is completed for building a miner with our chip. We will send to some community member to review for two or three days, and we can know whether there is something that will make other EE confused or hard to understand. Then we release all the documents to the public.
At this stage a dual chip USB hashing 3.2gh under 2.5w would be the niche. Double the hashing with just adding another low cost $10 chip.
That should be possible. On the other hand - my NanoFury devices were rated for around 2GH at 2.5W and with just a minor (software) adjustment can easily do 2.4-2.6GH even though they'll use more than 2.5W in that case ... So, guess how many people are running them at the stock 2GH
But either way - a dual-chip hasher "starting" at 3GH/s @ 2.5W should be a nice add-on. And of course we will have to design the whole thing to easily go over 4GH - just because it can (and because it's almost a given that people will try to push it there anyways)
I think I already see another incarnation of the NanoFury coming ...
That sounds like a great idea
I think I already see another incarnation of the NanoFury coming ...
Interested in finish made racks... :-)
Must be asembled since i cant!
Must be asembled since i cant!
Yes they will all be completely assembled.
How will price end up compared to the antminer? 180ghs @ 4ish btc
Regards
Interested in finish made racks... :-)
Must be asembled since i cant!
Must be asembled since i cant!
Yes they will all be completely assembled.
How will price end up compared to the antminer? 180ghs @ 4ish btc
Regards
Interested in finish made racks... :-)
Must be asembled since i cant!
Must be asembled since i cant!
Yes they will all be completely assembled.
Interested in finish made racks... :-)
Must be asembled since i cant!
Must be asembled since i cant!
i dont get this really.. they should sell in stock even for this.. 6 weeks lead time, 1 month production and delivery of miner. will it be profitable?
you would get a successfull groupbuy done very fast if it was done with in stock chips..
its really a bit wierd, since they started selling their miners a long time ago, one would think they have stock of 10k chips already to start selling.. i mean they didnt have a 6-7 week leadtime for their miners.
you would get a successfull groupbuy done very fast if it was done with in stock chips..
its really a bit wierd, since they started selling their miners a long time ago, one would think they have stock of 10k chips already to start selling.. i mean they didnt have a 6-7 week leadtime for their miners.
Unless you're the one paying the actual bill; then your risk is greater, and your investment is greater. Best case scenario, he only has to cover shipping, tax, and spends hours managing the group buy. Worst case can get downright ugly.
Either way, it sounds like you're not interested in this group buy, and you're not going to set up your own group buy, so... good luck finding chips I guess.
Either way, it sounds like you're not interested in this group buy, and you're not going to set up your own group buy, so... good luck finding chips I guess.
We're interested and have the money - but not with that chip markup. It is absurd. Waiting to see if OP revises that, otherwise we'll just invest directly in Bitmain hardware and not pay middleman greed.
Isn't the point of a group buy to pool our funds to get X price and we all enjoy the savings? Why is there such a markup on chips?
We would want to contribute purchased chips to a final implementation in usb/blade form, but why the heck would there be a (as of prices right now) $2.70 surcharge per chip over the published price for folks getting 1-9 ($2.25 next level, $1.80 next level)? Shouldn't the added charge be when we have talk of actually manufacturing it into something?
I thought the point was to get enough money together to allow us to have access to the chips; otherwise we're SOL. 25% markups for small quantities is minimal, especially given the risk inherent to group buys. Look up your average $9 MCU on Digikey, and you'll see them marked up 60% for the privilege of small quantity orders.We would want to contribute purchased chips to a final implementation in usb/blade form, but why the heck would there be a (as of prices right now) $2.70 surcharge per chip over the published price for folks getting 1-9 ($2.25 next level, $1.80 next level)? Shouldn't the added charge be when we have talk of actually manufacturing it into something?
http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/MSP430F169IPMR/296-17009-1-ND/656846
Say everyone who buys does so at the 250 chip level, exactly 250 chips. OP says he is getting 1k, so that makes 9k chips in 250 chip bundles. At the "group buy" prices, that means each chip buyer is spending an extra $339 to OP, in other words OP makes over $10k for running a "group buy". That's bullshit.
Group buy = pool funds to make purchase, you risk amount equal to what you put in. He wants 1000 chips, so his investment is 1000 chips at Bitmain's price (9.99BTC). Extra for shipping/handling per order makes sense, extra per chip is greedy and in this case on a giant magnitude.
Either way, it sounds like you're not interested in this group buy, and you're not going to set up your own group buy, so... good luck finding chips I guess.
Isn't the point of a group buy to pool our funds to get X price and we all enjoy the savings? Why is there such a markup on chips?
We would want to contribute purchased chips to a final implementation in usb/blade form, but why the heck would there be a (as of prices right now) $2.70 surcharge per chip over the published price for folks getting 1-9 ($2.25 next level, $1.80 next level)? Shouldn't the added charge be when we have talk of actually manufacturing it into something?
I thought the point was to get enough money together to allow us to have access to the chips; otherwise we're SOL. 25% markups for small quantities is minimal, especially given the risk inherent to group buys. Look up your average $9 MCU on Digikey, and you'll see them marked up 60% for the privilege of small quantity orders.We would want to contribute purchased chips to a final implementation in usb/blade form, but why the heck would there be a (as of prices right now) $2.70 surcharge per chip over the published price for folks getting 1-9 ($2.25 next level, $1.80 next level)? Shouldn't the added charge be when we have talk of actually manufacturing it into something?
http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/MSP430F169IPMR/296-17009-1-ND/656846
Say everyone who buys does so at the 250 chip level, exactly 250 chips. OP says he is getting 1k, so that makes 9k chips in 250 chip bundles. At the "group buy" prices, that means each chip buyer is spending an extra $339 to OP, in other words OP makes over $10k for running a "group buy". That's bullshit.
Group buy = pool funds to make purchase, you risk amount equal to what you put in. He wants 1000 chips, so his investment is 1000 chips at Bitmain's price (9.99BTC). Extra for shipping/handling per order makes sense, extra per chip is greedy and in this case on a giant magnitude.
You can count me in for at least 10 chips, and I'm considering between 50 and 100. I'll be designing my own system.
Thank you. We will try to support you as much as we can.
Isn't the point of a group buy to pool our funds to get X price and we all enjoy the savings? Why is there such a markup on chips?
We would want to contribute purchased chips to a final implementation in usb/blade form, but why the heck would there be a (as of prices right now) $2.70 surcharge per chip over the published price for folks getting 1-9 ($2.25 next level, $1.80 next level)? Shouldn't the added charge be when we have talk of actually manufacturing it into something?
I thought the point was to get enough money together to allow us to have access to the chips; otherwise we're SOL. 25% markups for small quantities is minimal, especially given the risk inherent to group buys. Look up your average $9 MCU on Digikey, and you'll see them marked up 60% for the privilege of small quantity orders.We would want to contribute purchased chips to a final implementation in usb/blade form, but why the heck would there be a (as of prices right now) $2.70 surcharge per chip over the published price for folks getting 1-9 ($2.25 next level, $1.80 next level)? Shouldn't the added charge be when we have talk of actually manufacturing it into something?
http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/MSP430F169IPMR/296-17009-1-ND/656846
Say everyone who buys does so at the 250 chip level, exactly 250 chips. OP says he is getting 1k, so that makes 9k chips in 250 chip bundles. At the "group buy" prices, that means each chip buyer is spending an extra $339 to OP, in other words OP makes over $10k for running a "group buy". That's bullshit.
Isn't the point of a group buy to pool our funds to get X price and we all enjoy the savings? Why is there such a markup on chips?
We would want to contribute purchased chips to a final implementation in usb/blade form, but why the heck would there be a (as of prices right now) $2.70 surcharge per chip over the published price for folks getting 1-9 ($2.25 next level, $1.80 next level)? Shouldn't the added charge be when we have talk of actually manufacturing it into something?
I thought the point was to get enough money together to allow us to have access to the chips; otherwise we're SOL. 25% markups for small quantities is minimal, especially given the risk inherent to group buys. Look up your average $9 MCU on Digikey, and you'll see them marked up 60% for the privilege of small quantity orders.We would want to contribute purchased chips to a final implementation in usb/blade form, but why the heck would there be a (as of prices right now) $2.70 surcharge per chip over the published price for folks getting 1-9 ($2.25 next level, $1.80 next level)? Shouldn't the added charge be when we have talk of actually manufacturing it into something?
http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/MSP430F169IPMR/296-17009-1-ND/656846
Say everyone who buys does so at the 250 chip level, exactly 250 chips. OP says he is getting 1k, so that makes 9k chips in 250 chip bundles. At the "group buy" prices, that means each chip buyer is spending an extra $339 to OP, in other words OP makes over $10k for running a "group buy". That's bullshit.
Isn't the point of a group buy to pool our funds to get X price and we all enjoy the savings? Why is there such a markup on chips?
We would want to contribute purchased chips to a final implementation in usb/blade form, but why the heck would there be a (as of prices right now) $2.70 surcharge per chip over the published price for folks getting 1-9 ($2.25 next level, $1.80 next level)? Shouldn't the added charge be when we have talk of actually manufacturing it into something?
I thought the point was to get enough money together to allow us to have access to the chips; otherwise we're SOL. 25% markups for small quantities is minimal, especially given the risk inherent to group buys. Look up your average $9 MCU on Digikey, and you'll see them marked up 60% for the privilege of small quantity orders.We would want to contribute purchased chips to a final implementation in usb/blade form, but why the heck would there be a (as of prices right now) $2.70 surcharge per chip over the published price for folks getting 1-9 ($2.25 next level, $1.80 next level)? Shouldn't the added charge be when we have talk of actually manufacturing it into something?
http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/MSP430F169IPMR/296-17009-1-ND/656846
Isn't the point of a group buy to pool our funds to get X price and we all enjoy the savings? Why is there such a markup on chips?
We would want to contribute purchased chips to a final implementation in usb/blade form, but why the heck would there be a (as of prices right now) $2.70 surcharge per chip over the published price for folks getting 1-9 ($2.25 next level, $1.80 next level)? Shouldn't the added charge be when we have talk of actually manufacturing it into something?
We would want to contribute purchased chips to a final implementation in usb/blade form, but why the heck would there be a (as of prices right now) $2.70 surcharge per chip over the published price for folks getting 1-9 ($2.25 next level, $1.80 next level)? Shouldn't the added charge be when we have talk of actually manufacturing it into something?
You can count me in for at least 10 chips, and I'm considering between 50 and 100. I'll be designing my own system.
Thank you. We will try to support you as much as we can.
Escrow?
You can count me in for at least 10 chips, and I'm considering between 50 and 100. I'll be designing my own system.
Interested, S1 design so 64 chips for me
I would take ~128 chips or so assuming the design is similar to the S1. Kind of depends what the guys can manufacture.
I agree with you madpoet.I can take 128 chips as well.
50 chips here.
I am interested in 100-200 pieces to start. Like to build USB sticks like U1, maybe with 2 chips each.
Need around 10 pieces to develop.
Need around 10 pieces to develop.
i'm interested in a #Rack size design. Similar size as the KNC design.
Chips per PCB would be interesting and influence the number ordered
The S1 has two "blades" both 32 chips each.The usb would be 1 or 2 chips.
The Rack would probably incorporate 10 or more of the blades.
Chips per PCB would be interesting and influence the number ordered
In that case yes I will take 128
Depending on component availability (we will find out when info is released) we should be able to reproduce the S1
I would take ~128 chips or so assuming the design is similar to the S1. Kind of depends what the guys can manufacture.
I would like to get the a cube/blade type design would be amazing. 180ghs per cube if its similar to asicminer cube. if not USB is fine. ill pledge $1000.
I plan to organise a WORLDWIDE group buy for Bitmain BM1380 chip.
This post will be updated with pricing etc.
Who would be interested in this and what kind of chip amount would you be wanting to buy?
I am looking to pledge 1000 chips to get the buy started.
The sample chips will be sent to developers so they can work on a open source design.
The lead time from when we make the order would be 6-7 weeks.
I am just trying to figure out the interest right now.
Further plans after buying chiipsThis post will be updated with pricing etc.
Who would be interested in this and what kind of chip amount would you be wanting to buy?
I am looking to pledge 1000 chips to get the buy started.
The sample chips will be sent to developers so they can work on a open source design.
The lead time from when we make the order would be 6-7 weeks.
I am just trying to figure out the interest right now.
1. When they will get delivered
2. BOM Cost
3. PCB production
4. And so on?
That is enough for me good luck!
I plan to organise a WORLDWIDE group buy for Bitmain BM1380 chip.
This post will be updated with pricing etc.
Who would be interested in this and what kind of chip amount would you be wanting to buy?
I am looking to pledge 1000 chips to get the buy started.
The sample chips will be sent to developers so they can work on a open source design.
The lead time from when we make the order would be 6-7 weeks.
I am just trying to figure out the interest right now.
Further plans after buying chiipsThis post will be updated with pricing etc.
Who would be interested in this and what kind of chip amount would you be wanting to buy?
I am looking to pledge 1000 chips to get the buy started.
The sample chips will be sent to developers so they can work on a open source design.
The lead time from when we make the order would be 6-7 weeks.
I am just trying to figure out the interest right now.
1. When they will get delivered
2. BOM Cost
3. PCB production
4. And so on?
I plan to organise a WORLDWIDE group buy for Bitmain BM1380 chip.
This post will be updated with pricing etc.
Who would be interested in this and what kind of chip amount would you be wanting to buy?
I am looking to pledge 1000 chips to get the buy started.
The sample chips will be sent to developers so they can work on a open source design.
The lead time from when we make the order would be 6-7 weeks.
I am just trying to figure out the interest right now.
Further plans after buying chiipsThis post will be updated with pricing etc.
Who would be interested in this and what kind of chip amount would you be wanting to buy?
I am looking to pledge 1000 chips to get the buy started.
The sample chips will be sent to developers so they can work on a open source design.
The lead time from when we make the order would be 6-7 weeks.
I am just trying to figure out the interest right now.
1. When they will get delivered
2. BOM Cost
3. PCB production
4. And so on?
5. TIME TO MARKET?
I plan to organise a WORLDWIDE group buy for Bitmain BM1380 chip.
The group buy is now open
Please pm me to get a payment address.
Chips sold so far 1000/10000
The sample chips will be sent to developers so they can work on a open source design. If you are a developer please send me a message with how many chips you need and information on your design so i can consider it. Currently all sample chips for batch one are reserved.
The lead time from when we make the order would be 6-7 weeks. As i feel the delays of the holiday season and new year mean paying the extra 10% isn't worth it.
Pricing will be:
1-9 = 0.013BTC Per chip
10-49 = 0.0125BTC Per chip
50-150 = 0.012BTC Per chip
151-499 = 0.0115BTC Per chip
500+ = 0.011BTC Per chip
Chip information can be found here
Also can everyone who is interested in fabrication please tell me what kind of design you want.
Usb single or dual chip
Reproduction of the S1 Can be one or two blades.
Rack size design. Similar size as the KNC design. 3-4 Boards per rack.
Or maybe something else. If you have a idea please pm me.
The chips will ship immediately once i receive them.
Fabrication Quotes will be announced asap. We are just waiting on more information on the board from the Bitmain crew.
Chip pictures:
List of people who have paid
Name Amount
Beastlymac 1000
The group buy is now open
Please pm me to get a payment address.
Chips sold so far 1000/10000
The sample chips will be sent to developers so they can work on a open source design. If you are a developer please send me a message with how many chips you need and information on your design so i can consider it. Currently all sample chips for batch one are reserved.
The lead time from when we make the order would be 6-7 weeks. As i feel the delays of the holiday season and new year mean paying the extra 10% isn't worth it.
Pricing will be:
1-9 = 0.013BTC Per chip
10-49 = 0.0125BTC Per chip
50-150 = 0.012BTC Per chip
151-499 = 0.0115BTC Per chip
500+ = 0.011BTC Per chip
Chip information can be found here
Also can everyone who is interested in fabrication please tell me what kind of design you want.
Usb single or dual chip
Reproduction of the S1 Can be one or two blades.
Rack size design. Similar size as the KNC design. 3-4 Boards per rack.
Or maybe something else. If you have a idea please pm me.
The chips will ship immediately once i receive them.
Fabrication Quotes will be announced asap. We are just waiting on more information on the board from the Bitmain crew.
Chip pictures:
List of people who have paid
Name Amount
Beastlymac 1000
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