it was one of my favourites 
Topic: [✔] [OPEN - LIMITED] Group Buy - Prospero X-1 by Black Arrow [$3.96/GH/s] [✔] (Read 2112 times)
May 29, 2014, 12:29:11 AM
what ever happened to this clusterfuck of a thread? it was one of my favourites
it was one of my favourites February 06, 2014, 11:33:15 AM
Nine orders already! Be quick! Limited space!
February 06, 2014, 12:10:41 AM
2,500$ profit with 60GH. i feel like on eBay
February 05, 2014, 07:23:02 PM
for the love of god dude, you're buying a sha256 miner, you can't mine scrypt coins, do some research and please don't try to help us
The term "altcoins" doesn't mean scrypt encrypted coins.
You better do some research because there are many other altcoins which are SHA256 encrypted, for example: Peercoin (PPC).
February 05, 2014, 07:21:48 PM
for the love of god dude, you're buying a sha256 miner, you can't mine scrypt coins, do some research and please don't try to help us
February 05, 2014, 07:16:59 PM
for the love of god dude, you're buying a sha256 miner, you can't mine scrypt coins, do some research and please don't try to help us
February 05, 2014, 07:10:50 PM
I lol'd at this thread
February 05, 2014, 07:00:14 PM
I hope everyone joining this group buy knows that they'll NEVER break even. Assuming the difficulty slows down to its lowest increase in a few months, the most recent of 20%, with an April 30 start date, you'll only recover 73% of your investment by year end. I would never use coinwarz for an estimate as it doesn't calculate based on the difficulty increasing every 2 weeks like it does. At this rate, the difficulty at start, assuming 20% difficulty increases, will be 7827M. These calculations for this post are based on http://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/calculator with 2.99% pool fee to account for slush's 2% and the OPs 0.99% management fee and using the 15 GH/s rate. you'll pay $69 today and still have $18.49 left to recover 1/2/2015.
You don't know what you are talking about. Read the full thread and you will see that we will mine the most profitable coin via another pool called CoinEx. And I will guarantee that if at the end of your license you didn't get to the break-even that I will pay the investments back.
I guarantee it because I am sure of the case that everybody who buys a license will get a good amount of profit. And if not, then I have the money for them to refund because I mined already a lot of BTC.
I am not a scammer at all.
February 05, 2014, 06:47:49 PM
I hope everyone joining this group buy knows that they'll NEVER break even. Assuming the difficulty slows down to its lowest increase in a few months, the most recent of 20%, with an April 30 start date, you'll only recover 73% of your investment by year end. I would never use coinwarz for an estimate as it doesn't calculate based on the difficulty increasing every 2 weeks like it does. At this rate, the difficulty at start, assuming 20% difficulty increases, will be 7827M. These calculations for this post are based on http://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/calculator with 2.99% pool fee to account for slush's 2% and the OPs 0.99% management fee and using the 15 GH/s rate. you'll pay $69 today and still have $18.49 left to recover 1/2/2015.
You don't know what you are talking about. Read the full thread and you will see that we will mine the most profitable coin via another pool called CoinEx. And I will guarantee that if at the end of your license you didn't get to the break-even that I will pay the investments back.
February 05, 2014, 06:40:29 PM
I hope everyone joining this group buy knows that they'll NEVER break even. Assuming the difficulty slows down to its lowest increase in a few months, the most recent of 20%, with an April 30 start date, you'll only recover 73% of your investment by year end. I would never use coinwarz for an estimate as it doesn't calculate based on the difficulty increasing every 2 weeks like it does. At this rate, the difficulty at start, assuming 20% difficulty increases, will be 7827M. These calculations for this post are based on http://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/calculator with 2.99% pool fee to account for slush's 2% and the OPs 0.99% management fee and using the 15 GH/s rate. you'll pay $69 today and still have $18.49 left to recover 1/2/2015.
You don't know what you are talking about. Read the full thread and you will see that we will mine the most profitable coin via another pool called CoinEx. And I will guarantee that if at the end of your license you didn't get to the break-even that I will pay the investments back.
February 05, 2014, 06:21:32 PM
I hope everyone joining this group buy knows that they'll NEVER break even. Assuming the difficulty slows down to its lowest increase in a few months, the most recent of 20%, with an April 30 start date, you'll only recover 73% of your investment by year end. I would never use coinwarz for an estimate as it doesn't calculate based on the difficulty increasing every 2 weeks like it does. At this rate, the difficulty at start, assuming 20% difficulty increases, will be 7827M. These calculations for this post are based on http://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/calculator with 2.99% pool fee to account for slush's 2% and the OPs 0.99% management fee and using the 15 GH/s rate. you'll pay $69 today and still have $18.49 left to recover 1/2/2015.
February 05, 2014, 06:04:55 PM
@Smeers blackarrow do not allow group buys. Read their website.
You also do not understand bitcoin difficulty.
Please do much more research before helping us.
You also do not understand bitcoin difficulty.
Please do much more research before helping us.
This is called a group buy, but it is not really one. It isn't since we aren't shipping the miners to different places. The only thing is that more people are paying for one order.
Also I DO understand what the difficulty means, why do you think else I started mining altcoins? Yes indeed, because the difficulty increased today and mining bitcoins are now less profitable than mining altcoins.
So don't try to say ever again that I don't know what difficulty means.
Have a nice day.
February 05, 2014, 03:28:05 PM
@Smeers blackarrow do not allow group buys. Read their website.
You also do not understand bitcoin difficulty.
Please do much more research before helping us.
You also do not understand bitcoin difficulty.
Please do much more research before helping us.
February 05, 2014, 03:07:30 PM
Payment receipt?
I don't see them...
Do you?
I don't see them...
Do you?
I have not bought those miners yet. I want to do this 'project' for the community, but if not enough people wants to participate then the project will not continue.
February 05, 2014, 01:49:48 PM
Payment receipt?
I don't see them...
Do you?
I don't see them...
Do you?
February 05, 2014, 11:10:11 AM
i like the fact that you get a refund if bit coin crashes! What a deal! Is it cheaper if i just western union my money to Nigeria?
What do you exaclty mean, Kuttingcorners?
He means scam. I wouldn't go calling you a scammer yet but your calculations are very deceiving since by the time these ship the diff will have quadrupled because THE NEPTUNES ARE COMING!!! THE NEPTUNES ARE COMING!!! Among other very high end hardware. BA is dead since they announced the delay.
Not to mention the recent downfall of DZ's R17 left a bad taste in a lot of people's mouths about BA here.
Do you honestly have the funds lying around to issue refunds to everyone if the BTC price crashes? If BTC price crashes do you issue refunds in USD value of btc? For instance if I were to buy your $99 package and I paid with btc do I get back the btc I gave you or do I get back $99 worth of btc at the crashed value?
What if BA delays shipping further and people start requesting refunds?
Yes, I have that amount of money here (from my other miner). And I will pay you out in USD.
And if BA delays shipping and anyone is asking for a refund, then they get it back.
Also, I am not doing this for me, I am doing this for the bitcoin community. For people who are not able to spend these great amounts of money.
February 05, 2014, 09:50:22 AM
i like the fact that you get a refund if bit coin crashes! What a deal! Is it cheaper if i just western union my money to Nigeria?
What do you exaclty mean, Kuttingcorners?
He means scam. I wouldn't go calling you a scammer yet but your calculations are very deceiving since by the time these ship the diff will have quadrupled because THE NEPTUNES ARE COMING!!! THE NEPTUNES ARE COMING!!! Among other very high end hardware. BA is dead since they announced the delay.
Not to mention the recent downfall of DZ's R17 left a bad taste in a lot of people's mouths about BA here.
Do you honestly have the funds lying around to issue refunds to everyone if the BTC price crashes? If BTC price crashes do you issue refunds in USD value of btc? For instance if I were to buy your $99 package and I paid with btc do I get back the btc I gave you or do I get back $99 worth of btc at the crashed value?
What if BA delays shipping further and people start requesting refunds?
February 05, 2014, 09:00:22 AM
i like the fact that you get a refund if bit coin crashes! What a deal! Is it cheaper if i just western union my money to Nigeria?
What do you exaclty mean, Kuttingcorners?
February 05, 2014, 08:58:29 AM
Can you share with us your calculations on the ROI time?
Calculations of 3 february like in the thread:
15GH/s - $69: http://www.coinwarz.com/calculators/bitcoin-mining-calculator/?h=15000.00&p=0.00&pc=0.10&pf=0.99&d=2193847870.17428000&r=25.00000000&er=956.23156535&hc=69.00
25GH/s - $99: http://www.coinwarz.com/calculators/bitcoin-mining-calculator/?h=25000.00&p=0.00&pc=0.10&pf=0.99&d=2193847870.17428000&r=25.00000000&er=956.23156535&hc=99.00
60GH/s - $249: http://www.coinwarz.com/calculators/bitcoin-mining-calculator/?h=60000.00&p=0.00&pc=0.10&pf=0.99&d=2193847870.17428000&r=25.00000000&er=956.23156535&hc=249.00
Though the difficulty has increased once again. I have another miner myself of 200GH/s, and I am going to mine altcoins now, it's much more profitable. And because of the pool's system it will only mine the most profitable coin. And all the altcoins will be converted to bitcoins again.
What about the 2% pool fee of slush and the difficult increments over the next 3 month..
Your calculations are misleading please change them..
I can just hide those calculations if you don't like them. Anyways, I am offering the cheapest and most profitable service on this forum for you guys. There is just the 0.99% fee to pay the power usage, no other hidden fees or anything.
February 05, 2014, 08:56:02 AM
Hi I'm interested
Just a few questions first
How many x1's do you have on order?
Can u provide the forum with proof/confirmation of your order?
Are there any hosting fees?
Also you are newish member.. can anyone verify your details and that your not a scammer etc...
Just a few questions first
How many x1's do you have on order?
Can u provide the forum with proof/confirmation of your order?
Are there any hosting fees?
Also you are newish member.. can anyone verify your details and that your not a scammer etc...
The hosting fee is just 0.99%, that is just enough to pay for the power usage.
And yes I know, I am new to this forum. But I have knowledge about bitcoins, I also have a 200GH/s miner myself. And as proof that I am not a scammer, you can add me on skype and we will talk for a while (even on cam if you prefer).
February 05, 2014, 08:52:00 AM
Can you share with us your calculations on the ROI time?
Calculations of 3 february like in the thread:
15GH/s - $69: http://www.coinwarz.com/calculators/bitcoin-mining-calculator/?h=15000.00&p=0.00&pc=0.10&pf=0.99&d=2193847870.17428000&r=25.00000000&er=956.23156535&hc=69.00
25GH/s - $99: http://www.coinwarz.com/calculators/bitcoin-mining-calculator/?h=25000.00&p=0.00&pc=0.10&pf=0.99&d=2193847870.17428000&r=25.00000000&er=956.23156535&hc=99.00
60GH/s - $249: http://www.coinwarz.com/calculators/bitcoin-mining-calculator/?h=60000.00&p=0.00&pc=0.10&pf=0.99&d=2193847870.17428000&r=25.00000000&er=956.23156535&hc=249.00
Though the difficulty has increased once again. I have another miner myself of 200GH/s, and I am going to mine altcoins now, it's much more profitable. And because of the pool's system it will only mine the most profitable coin. And all the altcoins will be converted to bitcoins again.
What about the 2% pool fee of slush and the difficult increments over the next 3 month..
Your calculations are misleading please change them..
February 05, 2014, 08:46:03 AM
Can you share with us your calculations on the ROI time?
Calculations of 3 february like in the thread:
15GH/s - $69: http://www.coinwarz.com/calculators/bitcoin-mining-calculator/?h=15000.00&p=0.00&pc=0.10&pf=0.99&d=2193847870.17428000&r=25.00000000&er=956.23156535&hc=69.00
25GH/s - $99: http://www.coinwarz.com/calculators/bitcoin-mining-calculator/?h=25000.00&p=0.00&pc=0.10&pf=0.99&d=2193847870.17428000&r=25.00000000&er=956.23156535&hc=99.00
60GH/s - $249: http://www.coinwarz.com/calculators/bitcoin-mining-calculator/?h=60000.00&p=0.00&pc=0.10&pf=0.99&d=2193847870.17428000&r=25.00000000&er=956.23156535&hc=249.00
Though the difficulty has increased once again. I have another miner myself of 200GH/s, and I am going to mine altcoins now, it's much more profitable. And because of the pool's system it will only mine the most profitable coin. And all the altcoins will be converted to bitcoins again.
February 05, 2014, 08:24:28 AM
i like the fact that you get a refund if bit coin crashes! What a deal! Is it cheaper if i just western union my money to Nigeria?
February 05, 2014, 08:06:54 AM
Hi I'm interested
Just a few questions first
How many x1's do you have on order?
Can u provide the forum with proof/confirmation of your order?
Are there any hosting fees?
Also you are newish member.. can anyone verify your details and that your not a scammer etc...
Just a few questions first
How many x1's do you have on order?
Can u provide the forum with proof/confirmation of your order?
Are there any hosting fees?
Also you are newish member.. can anyone verify your details and that your not a scammer etc...
February 05, 2014, 06:57:38 AM
Can you share with us your calculations on the ROI time?
February 05, 2014, 06:48:28 AM
in the BTC world 1 month is a lifetime 
I let this one pass..
I let this one pass..
me too...
There is a money back guarantee, if the price drops under $700/BTC, then you'll get your money back.
February 05, 2014, 06:46:55 AM
in the BTC world 1 month is a lifetime
I let this one pass..
I let this one pass..
me too...
February 05, 2014, 06:46:05 AM
in the BTC world 1 month is a lifetime
I let this one pass..
I let this one pass..
February 05, 2014, 06:44:00 AM
What is the delivery date of the X-1 miners?
The delivery date is within 2 months.
31st of april is not within 2 months
Well, less then 3 months then.
February 05, 2014, 06:40:38 AM
What is the delivery date of the X-1 miners?
The delivery date is within 2 months.
31st of april is not within 2 months
February 05, 2014, 06:39:30 AM
based on what info? the X-3 is already delayed until the 1st of may
This info is based on the actual sales page of the miner: http://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/prospero-x-1.html
February 05, 2014, 06:38:06 AM
Qs:
1. How long will you host for?
2. What are your fees?
3. What is the payment schedule?
4. What happens to the hardware after the mining is no longer profitable?
5. I assume that you don't have the hardware, and that it's coming 30 Apr 2014?
1. How long will you host for?
2. What are your fees?
3. What is the payment schedule?
4. What happens to the hardware after the mining is no longer profitable?
5. I assume that you don't have the hardware, and that it's coming 30 Apr 2014?
1) Mentioned in the first post
2) Mentioned in the first post
3) I've put the answer in the FAQ (second post on this thread)
4) I've put the answer in the FAQ (second post on this thread)
5) Yes
February 05, 2014, 06:28:55 AM
Qs:
1. How long will you host for?
2. What are your fees?
3. What is the payment schedule?
4. What happens to the hardware after the mining is no longer profitable?
5. I assume that you don't have the hardware, and that it's coming 30 Apr 2014?
1. How long will you host for?
2. What are your fees?
3. What is the payment schedule?
4. What happens to the hardware after the mining is no longer profitable?
5. I assume that you don't have the hardware, and that it's coming 30 Apr 2014?
February 05, 2014, 06:28:46 AM
based on what info? the X-3 is already delayed until the 1st of may
February 05, 2014, 06:27:33 AM
What is the delivery date of the X-1 miners?
The delivery date is within 2 months.
February 05, 2014, 06:25:56 AM
What is the delivery date of the X-1 miners?
February 05, 2014, 06:17:50 AM
3 Licenses of $99,- has already been ordered! Be quick, licenses are limited!
February 05, 2014, 04:08:03 AM
February 05, 2014, 03:10:06 AM
Gosh!
February 05, 2014, 03:05:00 AM
Makes me smile... 
February 05, 2014, 02:15:32 AM
Questions and Answers:
1) Where will the miners be hosted at?
At my home, they get checked every day.
2) What pool will you be using?
We will use Slush's pool (http://www.bitcoin.cz/)
But if bitcoin isn't the most profitable coin to mine anymore then we will use CoinEx.pw (http://www.CoinEx.pw/)
3) How many licenses are available?
Just a small amount, it's a matter of being quick! They will be sold out in just a few days from now on!
4) Where can I find more details about the miner?
Right here: http://www.blackarrowsoftware.com/store/prospero-x-1.html)
5) What is the payment schedule?
I will payout every week, most likely on sunday.
6) What happens when mining bitcoins is no longer profitable?
Then we will move to another pool where it is possible to mine altcoins, this is a pool that automatically mines the most profitable coin.
7) Why would I get refunded?
When the bitcoin market crashes or drops under $700/BTC.
February 05, 2014, 02:09:19 AM
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