at 0.03443 per Kwh i think it's not a good idea to be going with S9s, a whole new Gen of miners is just about out, the new gears will surelly have a good impact on difficulty pretty soon, long before you ROI on those old gears, it would be too late to do just about anything.
your power rate is great, but it's not free ! so you are always at risk of being taken out but other players, my advice get current Gen miners, like T15/S15 , this will keep you longer in the game, just enough to ROI at least.
Topic: Opinion on starting new farm (Read 453 times)
Yea its in CAD... It's very cheap BUT the setting up part is the pain in the ass LOL.... SO I have been exploring other options.
That would be in Canadian (CAD). Man that's a big bill, and that's just the usage. That's sort of why I was wondering if they had considered footing a bit more towards hardware for the efficiency at higher hashrates. Sure you may be starting smaller than desired but the operation will have legs to keep going at least.
1500 s9's are 800 x 1500 low speed = 1200Kwatts an hour x 720 = 864000 watts x 3.5 cents = 30,240 a month
not sure if that is canadian or usd
med speed about 46,000 a month
high speed about 52,000 a months plus the demand charges.
plus the 5 or 6 pods the pdus etc.
not sure if that is canadian or usd
med speed about 46,000 a month
high speed about 52,000 a months plus the demand charges.
plus the 5 or 6 pods the pdus etc.
Yeah I looked up the rates for commercial to see. Looks like general service large exceeding 100kv. I've never had the demand charge to deal with but I guess that comes down to what he actually loads into the mine. That's also CAD.
https://www.hydro.mb.ca/accounts_and_services/rates/commercial_rates/#e-lgs
https://www.hydro.mb.ca/accounts_and_services/rates/commercial_rates/#e-lgs
did he say he is 3.5 cents a k-watt?
s9's at 150 with a psu can be had.
but he needs a lot of service power and infrastructure .
10 s9's for 1500 at 3.5 cents turn the corner by august 31st
not counting the pdu's the building the power service
but for 1500 units the pdu's (4 hundred) and say 6 pods
the transformers and service from power company. will add a lot more time.
s9's at 150 with a psu can be had.
but he needs a lot of service power and infrastructure .
10 s9's for 1500 at 3.5 cents turn the corner by august 31st
not counting the pdu's the building the power service
but for 1500 units the pdu's (4 hundred) and say 6 pods
the transformers and service from power company. will add a lot more time.
Definitely keep us up to date, but I've been wondering what's your endgame on this? Are you planning on long term, or just want to get setup with cheap hash and run until it's no longer profitable?
I ask because at the moment there are significantly more efficient machines available, and you still need to assemble and tie in your site. This gives you plenty of time to wait on gear that is a month or so away on pre-order. Most of this equipment is a very fair price at the moment, and will carry value for the foreseeable future, unlike the s9's. You could even look at doing some older s9's and some of the current generation of miners.
I ask because at the moment there are significantly more efficient machines available, and you still need to assemble and tie in your site. This gives you plenty of time to wait on gear that is a month or so away on pre-order. Most of this equipment is a very fair price at the moment, and will carry value for the foreseeable future, unlike the s9's. You could even look at doing some older s9's and some of the current generation of miners.
thanks!!! Like I said I dont plan on overclocking at all, just want lower power consumption!!!
Thanks for getting back to me guys/gals... It would be a 53ft container that will be on a property with security and I will be getting insurance. Has there been alot of issues with asicboost with just lowering power. ANDDDD forgot to ask, any recommended PDU?
okay asicboost works most s9's s9i's s9j's will let you use it.
Just point to a solid pool and most often use middle speed setting which is say 1200 watts 13th
vs high speed setting which is say 1350 watts and 13.5th
you do have low speed which is around 750 watts and 9th
that is bitmain firmware
braiins firmware also works pretty well
lets say you get 1000 s9's, s9i's , s9j's at least 50-100 will say fuck you and only do full speed no asicboost settings will work continuously but 900 to 950 of you 1000 units will allow lowest or middle speeds.
Do not knock being able to do the lowest speed as it will help in the summer.
pdu's if you go for cheap used ones like I do this link will give you some
https://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-228481-002-417580-D71-200-240-VAC-24A-Series-EO4501-Modular-PDU-Control-Unit/143158585561?
these will run 4 s9's on middle speed and are fused
but they are not internet controlled so a remote power off power on is not possible.
Thanks for getting back to me guys/gals... It would be a 53ft container that will be on a property with security and I will be getting insurance. Has there been alot of issues with asicboost with just lowering power. ANDDDD forgot to ask, any recommended PDU?
What's wrong with a good old fashioned container? Ok a group of old fashioned containers, some are even tailored for Bitmain products...
You'd only need 5 of those to accommodate 1500+ miners.
You'd only need 5 of those to accommodate 1500+ miners.
Coming off mining ethereum, I am wanting to move up on scale and switch to Bitmain. I have been doing some research and found best way to deploy a medium size farm would be to POD it! Being from Manitoba hydro here will be .03443 per Kwh with 6.72 KVA demand charge, so I am looking into getting 1350-1500 s9 machines and build them my pod and get electrician to get it wired up! Couple questions I have for more experienced guys on here working with Bitmain s9
-Would it be better to use asic boost just to draw less power and still hash at around 13.5th/s
-What controllers/software you use to deploy or manage them all
-Other than getting transformer,PDU,wiring,switches and breakers, is there little nick-nacks or little tricks of the trade that anyone has encountered down the road to help them out?
Any thoughts,advice,suggestions or question would be appreciated... Thanks
-Would it be better to use asic boost just to draw less power and still hash at around 13.5th/s
-What controllers/software you use to deploy or manage them all
-Other than getting transformer,PDU,wiring,switches and breakers, is there little nick-nacks or little tricks of the trade that anyone has encountered down the road to help them out?
Any thoughts,advice,suggestions or question would be appreciated... Thanks
1500 s9's = 1500 x 1400 or 2,100,000 watts
you need a bigger space then a trailer they are 8 by 40 by 8
even with a well setup trailer with a middle rack 40 feet long and 5 shelves you are at about 200-250 s9's
I think you can max a trailer up to 300 units at most
no way you fit 1500 pieces with psu's pdus and cooling
a 8 by 8 by 40 is 1280 cubic feet. you need a lot of fans to cool it.
I dont know what kind of pod you have but you are not sticking 2+ megawatts in any pod commercially available
Manitoba you don't say. Well that's a nice commercial rate.
What do you mean by POD it? Is this a package you're ordering? If so I believe most of them come with everything pre wired you just have to do the miner install. If that's the case all you have to do is ensure you have arranged a large enough supply from Manitoba Hydro and connect the POD.
If you are doing all your own construction it kind of depends on where you are going to locate your farm, it could be better long term to build a mid size warehouse or a shop.
A few points to consider will be security, accessibility, and monitoring of the facility environment (temperature/visual). Also you will want to have spare parts/ units available as with something that size you will have some failed units or boards at some point.
The asicboost would be the first upgrade to make as it was designed to improve efficiency. Although at this point the miners probably already have it installed.
What do you mean by POD it? Is this a package you're ordering? If so I believe most of them come with everything pre wired you just have to do the miner install. If that's the case all you have to do is ensure you have arranged a large enough supply from Manitoba Hydro and connect the POD.
If you are doing all your own construction it kind of depends on where you are going to locate your farm, it could be better long term to build a mid size warehouse or a shop.
A few points to consider will be security, accessibility, and monitoring of the facility environment (temperature/visual). Also you will want to have spare parts/ units available as with something that size you will have some failed units or boards at some point.
The asicboost would be the first upgrade to make as it was designed to improve efficiency. Although at this point the miners probably already have it installed.
-Would it be better to use asic boost just to draw less power and still hash at around 13.5th/s
Yes it is better to switch to ASICboost firmware to get less power consumption but I heard some miner having some problem with ASICboost firmware like unstable hashrate or getting too much rejected shares. However, you can still try and then monitor your miner. If you get unstable hashrate or receive some miners issue you can revert it back to original firmware so make sure that you have backup first before you upgrade it to ASICboost firmware.
-What controllers/software you use to deploy or manage them all
Common software that they used is Awesomeminer but there are some alternative software that you can try like this one https://minerstat.com/
-Other than getting transformer,PDU,wiring,switches and breakers, is there little nick-nacks or little tricks of the trade that anyone has encountered down the road to help them out?
What do you mean by little nicknacks?
Coming off mining ethereum, I am wanting to move up on scale and switch to Bitmain. I have been doing some research and found best way to deploy a medium size farm would be to POD it! Being from Manitoba hydro here will be .03443 per Kwh with 6.72 KVA demand charge, so I am looking into getting 1350-1500 s9 machines and build them my pod and get electrician to get it wired up! Couple questions I have for more experienced guys on here working with Bitmain s9
-Would it be better to use asic boost just to draw less power and still hash at around 13.5th/s
-What controllers/software you use to deploy or manage them all
-Other than getting transformer,PDU,wiring,switches and breakers, is there little nick-nacks or little tricks of the trade that anyone has encountered down the road to help them out?
Any thoughts,advice,suggestions or question would be appreciated... Thanks
-Would it be better to use asic boost just to draw less power and still hash at around 13.5th/s
-What controllers/software you use to deploy or manage them all
-Other than getting transformer,PDU,wiring,switches and breakers, is there little nick-nacks or little tricks of the trade that anyone has encountered down the road to help them out?
Any thoughts,advice,suggestions or question would be appreciated... Thanks
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