Topic: OregonMines Group Buy $399 Colocated SP20s CC's Accepted (Read 12779 times)

Customers of Minersource will need to send their legal papers to Mathew Carson at Oregon Mines I guess. They should also be aware that Minersource was owned by Mathew's Dad who is also an Owner of Oregon Mines. So there would be good reason to make sure that nothing owned by creditors is also now somehow owned by Oregon Mines. Considering Oregon Mines is not being forthright about that aspect it would be best for creditors to work together to force Oregon Mines to give up information or get legal representation and police or federal agencies like the FTC / FBI involved in this given what has transpired as that will be the only way to get some traction on this.

I will leave this thread let others who were injured by Minersource, Mathew and Mathew's Father and possibly by Tom and Terrence Thurber. There is nothing more to do here than hope that those who were ripped off by Mathew and his Father and possibly Tom and Terrence Thurber are made whole again.

Clearly Oregon Mines should not be trusted. Dealing with Oregon Mines is something that you would do at great risk irregardless of what platitudes Tom gives you the injuries should be resolved if he wants ANYONE to trust his sons business again.

There are several other places to buy / rent hosted miners that have EXCELLENT reputations. Hashnest and PCFLI's are the two best examples at this point. Although realistically no-cloud mining or hosted situation will give you a positive ROI. You are best to simply buy BTC from reputable places and hold if you are looking to invest.

MC - 

I fully understand that people who lose money are angry and sometimes seek revenge.  Totally agree with respect to not being transparent and I should have followed my own judgement and come on the forum to explain Matt Carson's association when I became aware of the issue.  For that, I apologize.  While Oregon Mines is unable to solve previous issues of participants in this forum, we will prove over time our ability to provide superior hosting services at competitive prices.

Regards,
Tom

Tom,

Thanks for clearly this up and trying to bring a good company to the community, but you do understand that people will be very cautious to the point you will probably have to use escrow services for your sales until you have built a good reputation with sales and customer services.

Not being transparent about employing a person that many people have lost money to, only compounded this problem.

Good luck,
MC

This is no longer an issue regarding service. You are supporting a company that is associated with theft and fraud to satisfy your own greed. Honestly I hope anyone that invests in this gets burned, you get what you deserve.

I personally think it's great that you are completely aware of the upside/downside of your mining operation because many people don't understand anything but you seem to be pretty well informed. That's great to hear. :-)  Godspeed. BTW, 0.12 is a bit pricey but I hope BTC bounces back soon as it has taken a hit lately.

Just an update two weeks later, I have not had any downtime or any issues with OM's service. 

Should have been upfront from the beginning, you have lost whatever little credibility you had. It sound like there may be collusion  between you and Matt, this is getting more interesting by the day. Wonder how long it will take the authorities to visit Oregon Mines and start asking some valid questions.

My advice to you mate.... cut and dump the prick ASAP.

Bicknellski is bang on with all his points and Carson is a liar, a thief and a conman. Anything he's brought to your company money or hardware wise would be off of the backs of others when he cut and run taking with him a boatload of cash and a fair bit of undelivered hardware to boot. I know I wouldn't want that trash in my company.

It's like the age old saying; lie with dogs and you get fleas

Here's the first short list of questions passed along to me from a number of concerned Minersource creditors:


Has Miner Hosting LLC (Minersource) filed for bankruptcy, if so can you post the court documents?

Did Matt Carson steal all his customers hosted miners and/or bring them to Oregon Mines (there are lots of reports of Minersource hosted miners going offline and not being returned to customers), how can former Minersource customers get back their hosted miners?

Have any Minersource assets been misappropriated for use in Oregon Mines. Can we have someone independently come and verify this with your company records?

Why are you liquidating former Minersource assets on your ebay page http://stores.ebay.com/OregonMinesTheDalles ?
(This would appear to be a fraudulent conveyance.)

Is Matt attempting to hide assets from creditors by transferring assets to Oregon Mines or selling them below their actual value to Oregon mines?

Where should former Minersource customers that were defrauded send court summons paperwork?


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Note: When you called me on the phone I clearly indicated to you that you had to tell people how to reach Matt and to come clean about your involvement with Matt and his association with your company. You did not do that until now when evidence surfaced and I would again strongly warn anyone off using your services until there is a resolution for minersource creditors (customers). Time to seek or prepare for a legal solution as well as call in local or federal agents to investigate this as soon as possible. That would include a long look at Oregon Mines books / assets for any cross over from Minersource. Unfortunately given what I know of your relationship with Matt and past dealings with Miner suppliers in China I would say there is a lot more to this situation and your word is not sufficient. It would be important to independently verify your statements made here.

Padrino,

Thanks for your understanding of our position. We may not be able to convince the posters in this forum with words but hope to do so by diligently fulfilling our obligations as a hosting company including going above and beyond to satisfy our customers.

Regards, Tom

Great, let me know when he's gone and then I can consider your facility for my hosting needs.

Syke,  Yes, unfortunately we agree but will work diligently to correct over time.  Thanks, Tom

You do get to inherit his bad reputation, which now spoils yours.

Hello Forum Readers,

I'm Tom Thurber, the COO of Oregon Mines/DG Rollins and the father of the owner, Terrence Thurber.  This post has not been reviewed by anyone and may offend some.

I advocated for disclosure of Matt's position with Oregon Mines when the issue first came to my attention.  Matt asked that I defer the disclosure and, against my better judgment, I did so.

Oregon Mines and DG Rollins have absolutely nothing to hide.  Terrence was a client of Minersource and later, after starting a data center in Oregon, Matt Carson provided third party miners for hosting in the center.  Prior to employing Matt, Oregon Mines/DG Rollins was simply a client of Minersource.

Why did we hire Matt?  Matt's father agreed to acquire a minority interest in our business, infusing funds that will be used to double the data center's capacity.  As part of the deal, we agreed to hire Matt as Oregon Mines' VP of Sales.  Since Matt has delivered hosting clients to DG Rollins, it seemed like a smart move. 

It appears that a few people have serious unresolved issues with Matt.  This has no bearing on DG Rollins' operations.  My understanding is that Minersource is no longer in business.  I further understand that Matt relied on an unreliable manufacturer and passed along promises of that manufacturer that were not fulfilled.  In my opinion, this is a result of Matt's inexperience in the business world.  Don't make promises on behalf of others you do not control.

Oregon Mines and DG Rollins are split into two divisions, hosting and sales.  While with DG Rollins, Matt will be governed by our "customer first" approach that we actively use and promote in our existing hosting business.

Feel free to contact me by email ([email protected]) or Skype (DynoNY).  Oregon Mines/DG Rollins did not acquire any part of the operations of Minersource and cannot assume responsibility for issues arising between Minersource and its clients.

However, I am fully able to address all issues relating to Oregon Mines/DG Rollins.  We are serious about under-promising and over-delivering and invite you to challenge us by hosting at our center.  It is located at 3600 Crates Way, The Dalles, OR 97058.  We would welcome a visit if you are in the area.

Regards,
Tom Thurber

Lying fuck. Hope this company goes under too (hopefully not taking poor innocent peoples money with it) like Carson did with MinerSource

Guess who was at the Oregon Mines booth at the Texas Bitcoin Conference.

(http://texasbitcoinconference.com/conferences/austin2015#sponsors).



Interesting.

So you can all ask Matthew to give you your refunds if you are looking for him. He is working for Oregon Mines.

Be careful dealing with this company. Minersource was just one more iteration of the same thing obviously Matt Carson is totally involved in this company as a VP.

So far it has been hashing away at 1620 at least that is the poolside number.  I order another today and had it clocked to 180/180/180/180. And is hashing in the 1300 range, I will see how it acts.  I am planning on driving down there mid April and viewing the mine before purchase more miners.

I still am not recommending them.

I would not buy a forum ID but they are for sale here.   

Barbara

Since the purchasers now have well over a week of mining, what has your SP20 averaged in terms of hashrate? I don't try and run my single SP20 anywhere near top speed, so I am curious as to where in the range of 1400-1700 GH you folks have landed?

I am also truly surprised at the concept of purchasing an Id. I guess if you are trying to sell something, be it a scam or legit, it makes sense. I just can't quite fathom why someone would want to sell their "identity" though. Seems like a high price for a few bucks.

Don't listen to these haters Barbara.  I appreciate you contributing to the BTC community, and hope you will continue to do so in the future! 

-David

I really do not know what to say at this point.  When I first purchased a U3 miner in November I came here for help and information.  Since this is the only place that the manufactures use.  People here have helped me getting my U3's running, almost burnt my home down.  I had trouble with the S4 and the C1, I asked questions and people helped me. 

Now it seems that since I only have 62 posts it is okay to call me names, and insult me.  What I tried here was to take what everyone said was a scam and test them.

I have never recommend them to anyone. I did spend my money and get what I paid for that is all'

I have miners hosted with ASICSPACE, when people here were claiming it was a scam, I have had good luck with them

I have miners hosted with Lee in China I have had good luck with him.  I even purchased one from Philipma1957.

I have miners hosted with Oregonmines and I have gotten what I paid for.

I also keep miners at home, I spread my risks and since I am new to mining I am/was trying to contribute the greater good of Bitcoin.  The people on here seem more intent on tearing each other down and calling names than they do advancing the Bitcoin message.

If I would have known what I know now I would have purchased a user name, for sale on this board, with a large number of posts, I would not have given my real name or disclosed any personal information about myself.

I am positive no one with a high post count has EVER scammed anyone or acted as a shrill for a company.  You do not see paid  signature on my posts.


All of that being said, I am not recommending to anyone to buy any miners or hosting from anyone.  I would appreciate if you all refrained from calling me names.

Barbara

For a second I thought I was reading "shemale"  and it quickly made my own mind go like "Wow! The percentage of world's shemale population at 67+ age into bitcoin mining but with only 62 posts definitely makes her/him quite special." :-)

Note to myself: read a bit more slowly...

I am going to call BULLSHIT on nightshiftgirl.
Every god damn time a female username pops up on these forums its part of a scam.

She is 100% fake and the reason I say that is for the following facts:

1 - she is a female
2 - 67 years old
3 - her name is Barbara
4 - she is into bitcoin mining
5 - only 62 posts


Oregonmines are you ever trying???

I am running at full speed for now. i will watch it and see.   I kind of average my hosting costs and currently have miners in 4 places some cost more but I have some for .06 and some for .12.  I think this works out to
To about .10

Barbara

Thanks for the update. Are you going to run your SP20 at "full speed" or are you planning a "downclock" reduced hosting cost arrangement?

We have worked out our differences and I have sent my money
Barbara

My mom has better things to do Barbara than coach a 45+ year old man. Insulting me and how my Mom raised me is not the point and has nothing to do with the potential harm this company could do others. Your passive aggressive taunts are misplaced. Use it on Oregon Miners they are the ones here who are circumspect not me.

Again I don't know you and that is the POINT. Who would trust you? I do not see a long reputation of purchases so I will as I said before not trust you and your 'purchase' with these people as any indication that they are LEGIT. Obviously you are getting the run around by them that is a typical thing that Minersource and Technobit were both famous for. You have been warned.

I am going to ignore you from this point forward problem solved for you and me.

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Does Matt Carson still work with you in any capacity Terrence Thurber (Owner of DG Rollins Mining)? When you called me on the phone the same day I posted the first time here you didn't answer that question and you still are not answering here.

Your travels to Black Arrow and Spondoolies together is a clear indication that you have had a long and close business relationship and it would be best if you were to help out those who lost money from Minersource to have a contact number of Matt given you have it Terrence.

We've gotten kinda callous from all the scams,I don't think Bick intended to be malicious or rude,he just had doubts.I have been around here since June 2011 & have seen almost every type of scam & seeing newer ones all the time,we are very leery of "too good to be true" or "Just trust me".

You seem to have a very good grasp on things,I applaud your "to the point" reply there  

Best of Luck to you NSG !!

Bicknellski, I really do not know what to say to you, but your mom should have a talk with you about judging others without knowing anything about them

This is the PM I just sent to Oregon Mines.

Okay here is the deal, I am beginning to feel you are gaming people.  You did send the contract finally two days after the bill.

It has several areas that I had questions on.  You have not replied to my questions. 
Nor was the contract signed by you or did it indicate who would sign it.
 Earlier today I asked for the service agreement to go with the contract.  There has been no reply. 

I have asked why you sign messages as OM and not a real name. You have not replied.

As I have stated I will not make payment until every thing is signed and sealed

You are welcome to turn off my miner and cancel my order if you can not issue a valid contract that we can both enforce in court if needed.



Barbara

Well, earlier in the thread I explained that I purchased from them, you can read about my experience, fwiw.

Regardless.

The fact remains Oregon Mines is suspect and not very forthcoming with regards to Matt Carson's involvement.

1 purchase is not really something to build a reputation on for Oregon Miners especially given their very close relations with Matt Carson. You don't take trips with Matt Carson to Hong Kong to see Black Arrow with the owner of Oregon Mines in tow or Spondoolies in Israel as a lark. There is a lot more going on here than a few private units for sale and rent.

Again let me apologize for being blunt with Barbara. If she is a legitimate customers then fine but we have seen the long con before with faux / shill accounts that promote company XYZ for payment etc and then basically attempt to boost sales when there is obviously problems.

Now I am still not giving Barbara the benefit of the doubt yet but I will extend my hand and say that if you are not a shill or sockpuppet then please understand that others who might want to deal with this company in larger orders etc could be getting set up for a loss even if your 1 miner deal is all roses and petunias.

We have yet to see any REPLY about Matt Carson's involvement and again I am certain that the owner of Oregon Miners is in contact or can contact Matt Carson at any point. So those seeking restitution from Matt Carson should contact the owner.

yeah it did really happen she purchased 1 from me was polite >  I won't show any pm's but she is real enough to send me  the coin.

for 1 s-5 hosted by lee in  china.  She also made purchases from lee before buying mine .

As for OregonMines I have chosen to not buy any.  I also am in the process of using the funds sent to me by Nightshiftgirl and 3 others buyer to repair or replace my Furnace's chimney.

Bick I know you try to point out bad sellers and have picked some bad ones correctly. I think NightshiftGirl is a legit customer.  I think OregonMines is spotty  without a good track record.

I think she is fine with 1 item but not 10 items with them at this point. After Oregonmines shows they are good or bad she can add more machines or chose to not add anymore.

Hi,
My first post on this forum was in November of last year.  I had just purchased a pair of U3 miners and I was clueless in how to get them to work, and nearly burnt my house down with the overheated power packs.

In December I purchased an s3+, S4, and a C1, I wanted to test and compare them.  I had a lot of trouble getting the S4, and C1 hashing, and got a lot of help from this forum.
But since being a member, I have become a little worried about the amount of negativity in the posts, I am not sure if it helps bitcoin if we all are so negative about everything.

There is no way I can prove I am not a sock puppet nor shrill for anyone.

I am currently up to 12T in hashing and looking to add more in the future. 

Bicknellski, I have three miners with PCFLI = Lee and will get more when the price comes back down
I do not use Hashnest or any other cloud service, because with physical equipment it can be amortized and used as a tax write-off. And have a real residual value to sell at a later time.
I never said I was vouching for Oregon Miners.

 I am simply reporting on my experience with them.  If I get ripped of you will know if I don’t you will also know.  Proceed at you own risk.  I don’t actually ever recommend where anyone should invest, you need to figure your own odds of winning and what the risk is.

I am not Matt Carson’s mom, I have a daughter, son in-law and three wonderful granddaughters’ in another state. One of my Granddaughters is in College.

Alh  I agree 100% with you
“It's funny to me that one of the largest risks today with Bitcoin isn't technical, it's the entire lack of trust that permeates mining. All the technology embedded within crypto currencies, and it still boils down to trust”

Wpgdezz, I don’t mind the warning at all, it being judged as a sock puppet or shrill that got my attention. Its hard to accept advice from someone who thinks you are a fake.

HerbPean  Thank you for  your response, I trusted people on Lees thread vouching for him, especially Phillipma1957 who seems to be very level headed and was a pleasure to deal with.

I apologize for long post, but I feel at this moment I need to respond.  This forum is important to me and I have learned an immeasurable amount of information here.  Unfortunately when I first started reading the posts, I almost did not venture a toe into Bitcoin.  But I have never been one to follow the herd.  So happy mining, trading or holding,

Barbara 

Guys, all your warnings from your past experience is highly appreciated. That is why I choose Lee's service to try and experience with hosting outside my home.

Glad you guys want to share your fears of been scam with this hosting. This is one of the reason which I would not try their service.

Barbara, it's really cool that you decided to keep you occupied yourself with Bitcoin ! You should write down all your story from the start and share it with the community. ;-)

Best of luck !

Barbara, I hope you understand that some of us have been around for quiet a while and have seen many people get scammed over the last couple of years. These thieves like to feed on new members and many of us have become fed up with this behavior and do what we can to try and educate others who may fall prey to these villains.

I hope you understand that we are not trying to tell you what to do, just give some solid advice. Best of luck, if you are not a sock puppet you sound like a very interesting lady. Best of luck to you.

While it's possible that the whole OM things is a fake, I don't think Barbara is. Just over in Lee's thread, she purchased one of the S5's from phillipma1957 for $380. Phillip made some money over his original $340 cost, and she did better than the current $419 from Lee. I am 100% certain that transaction took place based on Phillip's public comments.

I don't know how to respond to the whole Minersource connection. It just seems to me that Barbara is legit, and if it's a fraud, she'll lose her money. I think her reporting is accurate and we won't really know anything for at least a month. She'll be able to tell if her pool is delivering as expected, and even if they are a Ponzi scheme, they won't fold up shop for at least a month I would guess.

It's funny to me that one of the largest risks today with Bitcoin isn't technical, it's the entire lack of trust that permeates mining. All the technology embedded within crypto currencies, and it still boils down to trust.

Barbara we have seen this story before particularly with Technobit shills and sockpuppets saying how great the service and miners are then POOF! Many people get scammed.

Not sure why you would not expect someone to call out anyone just parachuting into this thread of all threads and plopping down money on a risky venture. Further ignoring the hundreds of thousands of dollars stolen from customers as a result of a close friend of the owner of Oregon Mines. It just begs the question can I really trust that you are who you say you are Barbara. I don't have to believe you no matter how angry you get at me. What I find funny is you do not even mention the possibility that Matt Carson is involved in this. I guess you have not been following the hardware section very long. Also you seem to ignore the fact his "friend" who runs Oregon Mines is basically ignoring the question being asked 'Is Matt Carson involved in this venture or anything to do with Oregon Mines?'

Again my apologies for being BLUNT but unless you are showing us sales receipts etc with some sort of ID to back it all up or someone unrelated to either Minersource or Oregon Mines can verify all this impartially, no one is going to take your word for any of it. Nor should they. Caveat Emptor extends beyond you it extends to anyone reading this thread with a good dose of skepticism. Your reputation is ZERO in this medium and unless you have done a lot of business prior to this with known members of this community who can be trusted why should we even believe what you post? It is a fair question to ask. Getting all angry at me won't shake that resolve to ask the right questions like who the hell are you and why should we trust you?

Hell Barb you could be Matt Carson's mom for all we know. Maybe you are just Matt Carson who knows. No one here knows you or Oregon Miners from a hole in the ground and given there is a relationship ongoing with Matt Carson you should be very worried about putting any funds at all in this investment. Again anyone reading this should do more to find out who is really behind this company get particulars and find out who they are in case they do run. That is just smart investing whether you Barbara take that advice I don't really care however I do care about anyone who might invest in basically a losing proposition that will never ROI. Do the math you'd be better off with Hashnest or other like services from PCfli who have a reputation for not RUNNING away with people's cash and who respond directly to questions. Do your homework people there is no deal here.

PCFLI https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/lee-group1980-the-sales-of-first-batch-hosted-antminer-s7psu-included-934581
HASHNEST https://www.hashnest.com/

* Full disclosure I do not rent from either PCFLI or HASHNEST.

I might be new but I resent you calling me names without knowing me. I am a 67 year old retired woman, trying to stay busy.  I was a senior VP and was quite busy and made a lot of decisions involving several millions at a time.  I also made good money and retired and was bored out of my mind. 

I have miners at home, but I can only have a few,

I have been staying busy studying Bitcoin, I have also purchased coin for a long position.

I have some money to play with and if I loose it all I do not care..  I have several miners with Lee in China,  I have  some hosted miners with asicspace here in Washington, and now I have a miner with Oregon Mines.  If it works out I will get more.  Risk is part of life. If I could not afford to loose the money I wouldn't play.    I have spent more than 500.00 for a hotel room in the past and will again in the future.

If I find other operations to host or purchase from it will be my decision

My risk is lower because I do not put all of my eggs in one basket.

I would suggest you get over yourself and your need to control the world.

Besides I need the tax write offs if the whole thing crashes.  If not my grand kids can have fun with the coin after I am gone
 
So this sock puppet says good night

This is small money I am playing with, but I have fun, and it keeps my mind busy learning new things

If this turns bad I will write about it but I have no need to tell others how handle their money,

Barbara

Please don't forget.

Giving money to people who remain anonymous is more than risky. It is downright foolish.

And I am not going to BELIEVE a 56 post newbie who might actually be just another sock-puppet pushing sales for Oregon Mines. Sorry if I am being blunt but the question gets asked and never gets answered. Then low and behold someone buys in. That isn't suspect is it? We have seen this sort of pattern before.

If you do not know who the parties are involved then you are taking a big risk.

The owner of DG Rollins Mining LLC is very close to Matt Carson and is likely in contact with him without question or can contact him directly without issue. They have traveled to Israel and Hong Kong working deals for miners and have many dealings that are more than just buddy buddy up to an including the Minersource debacle.

Now if people are really keen on getting involved that is fine and apologize if my accusation is too blunt but let us be honest here NO NAMES of these people or ID's have been presented in order to verify them and heaven forbid you get scammed be able to report them to the right authorities. Also as mentioned before they could like Minersource just take a flyer.

You have been given fair warning.

About two hours after my first post I received this response

You are not expected to pay the invoice before the contract, sorry if you thought that's what was meant, I could have been clearer with that.

We are trying to get our system to automatically send the contract and invoice together. I'll have them wait to send them together, there are a few people working on it so it shouldn't take much longer.

For the underclocking, you would be billed for actual power used, the $1.92 per day is based on the 180/180/180/180 .67v settings. If you use less power the billing would be less if the underclock is at higher settings that use more power it would be higher. But this won't be a problem if you want it underclocked to the 180 + .67v


You should see the units appear on your primary or secondary pool if there's a problem with the primary shortly.


My Miner was on line and hashing at 1675 . I have not even paid him yet

Barbara

It ranges from 1.38 Ths to 1.42 Ths at the pool, just about what I expected.

Thanks for taking the risk

What's the underclocked performance?

I purchased an SP20 from OregonMines over the weekend. I have to say that everything has gone smoothly so far, except for the outage that Oregonmines announced in this thread. Even that one hiccup was handled professionally, as they quickly got back to me once I noticed that it was down, gave me an estimate as to when it would be back up, and got it back up within that estimate. They also agreed to credit me for a full day, even though I lost less than a full day.

After expressing interest in purchasing the SP20, I received an invoice generated by Quickbooks from DG Rollins Mining, LLC. The invoice was for the cost of the unit, plus a month's hosting costs. OM agreed to run the unit underclocked, and charged me accordingly. I paid the invoice using bitcoin. I checked my pool about 10 minutes later, and the miner was already running. Other than the downtime mentioned above, the miner has run consistently and at the expected speed.

The one service I wish they offered is the ability to change pools myself through a web interface or something similar. Hopefully this is something that can be added in the future. That said, I haven't had a need to change pools yet, and OM has said that they will change pools upon request. However, especially with hosted services, I like to test out how the miner responds at different pools, so this would be a helpful added feature. I should add that Lee, who I suppose is their competitor, also does not offer this service.

Overall, I'm happy with my experience with OM. It appears to be a professionally run operation.

Just received the following response from them

This will not be a problem, could you provide an email to be invoiced to, also so we can send you your contract when it is ready.

The invoice usually comes first with the contract a day or so behind.

OM
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  My answer

My email address is XXXXXXXXXXXXXX.

I will not pay the invoice until I see the contract.

also it would help to see it mining on my pools soon, consider it proof of life.

How come no name in signature? just OM

Barbara

If this works out, not having to buy power supplies, and the ability to sell the miner in the future helps
Time will tell

Barbara

Thanks for trying this out and reporting your results. I do wish you the best of luck on this. My biggest concern here isn't the operating margin, which isn't great, it's the risk of fraud/collapse.

I be warned

At-least paying with credit card you will hopefully have some recourse if things go bad. Good luck and don't say you weren't warned if you get burned.

Okay, I will bite.  

I would like one sp 20 for 399.00  I will pay the 50 later to have it shipped to me.

I will pay the 2.90 hosting per day.

I want a month to month contract, with options to keep the miner there for at least 6 months.
 
you agree to under clock at my request to 1.92 day.

I can remove my miner before the 6 months are up if I give you notice

I will post on the forum all of my interactions, how long things take, and what kind of ongoing service I get.  Including downtime.

I want a phone number as well as an email address for support.

I wish to pay with credit card.

Barbara

Here's an idea. Answer his question without beating around the bush and hiding under a company name. Who are YOU?

Minersource and Matt Carson have been brought up in this thread. You have a whopping 13 posts and an obscure company name.

Where is the data center? This datacenter is located 2 states away from where the company is registered, how convenient.

If i was to use my mining hardware to generate some income and then skip town, this is the exact business model i would use to do it, as you seem to have all the areas covered.

On Sunday night we had a small networking issue that took down one of our tunnels. This was corrected yesterday afternoon those effected will receive an additional day of hosting for the trouble.

Update: Free escrow with Credit Card processing, prices listed are the prices paid (wire transfer fees still apply).

A side note, but is there some detailed writeup as to what happened with/at Minersource?
EDIT: nevermind, found it here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10783545

Be careful who you trust people. Your miners and BTC could vanish just as easily as Minersource's clients did. Warning to any newbs out there.

Normally changes to miners need to be made by emailing info (at) oregonmines.com . Response time is normally well under 24 hours.

If you are purchasing a rack of units between 12-15, you can also purchase VPN access and make the changes yourself.

Would I have access to my miners?  How long can someone keep a miner hosted there?
Barbara

Credit Cards now accepted, include your payment method in your PM.

We can certainly lower the costs for bulk purchases 12+ units.

I think it's about the same at 0.10/kwh. But Lee said that once he sells a few more units, he will drop 10%. If you guys are able to get the rate down to $0.09/kwh this will be a much more attractive deal, I'd certainly be interested.

The shipping / termination fee includes, removing the unit, shipping the unit in the US as well as full shipping insurance.

The price per KW/month is actually under Lee's, the SP20 uses more power and has a higher hashrate / downclocking can lower the hosting fee.

I'll arrange the downclock testing for tomorrow and report back what it is averaging at the end of the day.

Anyone here tried this out yet?

Apparently, Spoondolies are the most power dense and stable miners out there. However, I'm not sure if they'll develop new more energy efficient products so I'll probably wait to see that before I do any hosting.

Assuming this is legit, it seems like a possible alternative to Lee's S5 hosting deal in China, particularly for US based miners. The $399 price for an SP20 seems quite reasonable, and a termination/shipping fee of $50 is a little high, but probably no worse than what it would cost to finish up at Lee' facility. Lee has a significantly better daily rate though.

Could Oregon Mines set up one or two SP20's with the "downclock rate" (i.e. 180W on the 4 loops), and report what the hash rate is after several hours?

Sent a PM to answer and I will edit the OP to make it a bit more clear.

Unprofitable...

Sell / Rent it and make a profit as you probably just broke even on the 150 SP20s you purchase in bulk.

Risk.

I dont understand this why dont you just mine yourself since you already paid for the hardware ?

I'm confused, so maybe you can help me understand.

You stated:


Yet, just a few posts later you state:


So, which is it?  You can or you cannot negotiate on co-lo costs?

Is Matt Carson working for Oregon Mines or part of the DG Rollins LLC?

You seem to have avoided that question.

The only person pushing this thread down a rabbit hole is Loshia. Typically off topic and has nothing to do the with the thread.

Simple questions being asked and answered. The only person that is being impolite is Loshia here, which doesn't surprise anyone given his defense of Martin and Technobit and their scams right up to present times. His personal and sustained attacks on me is well documented. Even though he was warned not to do this by forum moderators he continues to harass me in countless threads.

It is fair to ask what Matt Carson's involvement in this is, given the mess he has left behind with a number of deals here in these forums. Any potential customers of DG Rollins LLC should rightly know if he is involved. If he is why isn't Matt coming clean and resolving the countless problems he has with former Minersource customers? Does DG Rollins LLC have contact with Matt Carson? If they do can they not persuade Matt Carson to resolve issues he has with his customers?

Given those trips to Black Arrow and Spondoolies involved DG Rollins LLC and Matt Carson together there is certainly a reason to question the current standing and relationship of DG Rollins LLC and Matt Carson. The fact the "Loshia" is involved should also give any customer pause on anything related to a company, he seems only to post in an attempt to defame others and away from the specific question being asked. Smoke screens seem to be unnecessary here given that the principals are willing and able to respond to polite questions about who is involved in their business without resorting to name calling like Martin and Loshia did when questioned about their less than reputable business practices.

Clearly there is a "relationship" with Minersource and that might give at least former customers worry if not the whole community. That is why I asked the question so that consumers at least know a relationship did / does exist with these companies. The consumers who might be interested in what is being offered can now measure that information and weigh the risks involved. Without asking that question it was clearly never going to be brought up voluntarily by Oregon Mines.


Sample complaints from Loshia favorite company Technobit:

Figured I'd go ahead and step into the thread, and say Hello.

@Bicknellski and for those wondering , I am the owner of the DataCenter which is operating as "OregonMines", the WY company listed and the OR operating company that maintains, operates, and manages DataCenter itself.

The miners in question, they're mine too. I bought those Miners late last year to test out the design on a new Tunnel, vs the same areas where other machines were hosted. There are 150 SP20s all alone in that room, and they all were purchased directly by my mining company, that is an active client of the DataCenter operation. ( I'll be sure to get Spond in here to verify that purchase, and that it went to the very same DC listed, much like several other clients of theirs with similar Machine counts )

As to the assertion that I am or ever was "partners" with MinerSource, or any shareholder of MS, that's false. I have never owned any % or had any control of MS, or their operations. I've used MS on several purchases and I'll list off a few ( Old -> New).

• MS acting as a reseller of BitMain S1s ( 500+ when it was all said and done, some direct, some resold ), with him hosting a % of those machines at his DC while I expanded the OR facility, and eventually re-selling the USED machines that I did not sell directly to other investors I knew.
• MS hosting half of the 400+ BitFury boards that I had built from Reels of Chips and purchasing from other Miners
• DI Mining ( The Miners themselves ) allowing MS to include our projected Spend on ANY potential , Machines Shipping Today Deals, along with their other clients, as a potential POOL or CO-OP buy to leverage more purchasing power
• OregonMines, as DataCenter for clients, accepting Hosting Referrals from MS, and paying a referral fee for that service. All clients contract directly with us for services rendered, Hosting

That is the extent of our relationship, OregonMines.com is first and foremost a DataCenter. The fact that I want to sell some of my own Miners, and try to do so in a manner that keeps them as clients potentially should be a NON-ISSUE for anyone. These are not someone elses machines, they didn't come from anywhere other than Israel to my DC.

If at any time I've tried to give other providers advice, or guidance, this is all simply a means to an end. If I can get more from my providers, and therefore command higher returns, I'll do so. Plenty of people have grouped together around potential ideas that don't come to bare.

Despite buying half of my BF Boards from BlackArrow manufacturing, I did so long before Prospero, and despite several opportunities presented to buy BULK, I was lucky enough to not get burnt, because I act on some principles like, Don't buy what you can't see in front of you and have today. I've had employees fly to buy Reels of Chips, I've been to China, Israel. ( You don't buy many properties without seeing them, you don't invest offshore without a local presence, etc )

Since we are Miners first, we built the DC around that. A very nice chunk of change was invested already, for just Phase 1 + 1.1 of this DC. We're currently adding an additional 2000 KVA transformer ( vault / permit / conduits done ) , and will be stringing out more capacity along with more upgrades, as well as potentially releasing some of the same tools we use to manage My Boxes en masse to clients. Several of our clients have done On Site visits, others remote walk throughs, etc. ( Normally the response is "Impressive, clean", but you have to walk the whole facility for that ). I have more expansion space available, I have the PUD onboard for whatever is needed , the Contractors on hand etc.

@Loshia - I'm aware that this will most likely continue to devolve into more Q&A , but I have nothing to hide. If customers don't want the boxes like this, I'd just sell them externally, like every other iteration or large purchase I've made in the past. Though you're right, it would be nice to have a chance to reply before people go down the rabbit hole.  

We've mined hard, and steady for a while, had a few down cycles where we moved out of machines, we're not a Chinese Mega Farm, but we're here to host.

Included some Pics of the Machines for sale. ( Our sharpie skills at work )




This should help clear things up, expect further communication on these matters from OregonMines.

Enjoy the party Gents

You were warned in advance.

That are BickLEDsky conclusions about you without A SINGLE FACT IN HAND


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quoted in his post
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MinerSource is gone bud, taken everyone's money and run
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And his original post
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His partner ain't gone. I see nearly 144 SP20's mining away.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10676569
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The original post:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10677533

And of course in BickLEDsky style i expect that he will remove or edit it very soon like always.

As i see things you are directly called partner of the one of the biggest scams recently. A scammer partner for me is a scammer himself.

I am relay sorry for you that you have played his game in the begging....

And this is just a BickLEDsky warmup...
 
Have a nice day
PS: feel free to remove that post also. I am not gonna edit it.
I think it is on topic 100%

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For BickLEDsky
Before posting bulshit about people in general, the good manners require to wait for an answer right?
BickLEDsky, let us imagine that you are correct and OregonMines were MinerSource partner.

Will that mean that Spondo is a scam company also? A? Or that just means that they did honest business, took customer OregonMines -  MinerSource STOLEN money and delivered excellent equipment as agreed.

Just for the record i admire Spondo way of doing business and i am their fan.  BickLEDsky also "pretends" that he is Spondo fan also. But how long will that last?

And finally there are just a couple of companies left who are kicking their ass and tiring to make some business.
But BickLEDsky obligation is to stick his nose everywhere in any time and to spread vast amount of bulshit of course. I am enough someone has to stop this ASAP.

Thanks for the info Oregon Mines.

Is DG Rollins LLC or you 'OregonMines.com' related to Matt Carson aka bobsag3 or Minersource.net in anyway? And if so are you still in partnership with Matt as you were before?

Slower speeds are possible, If you would like an under clocked version the price per unit will remain the same but price for colocation would be adjusted to the power pulled if  a PSU with 90% efficiency is used.

Send a PM with what you would like as an under clock setting and I can give you that price as well as put it up in the OP.

Each blade pulling 288W = 1152 + PSU efficiency so averaged to 1200w, most of the units are averaging above 1600, but we've seen it slightly different depending on which pool they are on.

Well  here is my problem with your offering.

 the sp20   will do 1100 watts and 1600gh
or it will do 800 watts and 1350gh 

you offer it at 1600 gh and charge over 2.50 usd a day. this comes to

24 x 1.1 = 26.2 kwatts at 10 cents = 2.62 usd  which is what you want.

if you set the same unit to 1350 gh it will use 24 x .8 = 19.2 kwatts at 10 cents = 1.92 usd a day


I am pretty sure at the current price of btc I am better off with my sp20e at the 1350 gh rate and not the 1600 gh rate.

Not going to knock  your offering but I rather run it at the slower speeds as I do not think I earn anything extra at the higher speeds you are stating.

Please send a PM to start the conversation. Depending on length of time and number of units the colocation cost may be lowered.

Interested in some/all of the units but would just buy and host in a more economical location.. If interested in selling them all please PM with a price and total quantity of all the units..

Unfortunately we will not be able to lower our colocation costs at this time, currently you will have the PSU's covered the entirety of the contract, onsite personnel if needed. Our price is under $90 per unit per month which is one of the best prices that can be found for such a short contract, you can do only a 15 day contract.

The only way you would be able to get 90 day escrow would be to wait for credit card processing, I apologize however escrow will need to be released within 24-48 hours of delivery of goods, you will receive the unit serial numbers and the units will be mining within 24 hours of payment.

DG Rollins Mining LLC is a Wyoming based LLC which operates OregonMines.com, and is in the business of Bitcoin miner colocation and hosting services.

Some of our experience for the past 3 months:


@Loshia:
The questions he brought up in the post are on topic. Please edit your post to be on topic or remove it.

Who are you?

Business license?

Experience?

This seems interesting and probably posted in the wrong place.  But in the interest of it maybe being beneficial to both of us, I'll make this offer to you and post it to keep things on the up and up.

I currently pay $1.67 per day for my SP20s.  So I'd do $2.00 per day for each on a 90 day agreement for 5 units.  During which time I will review the operations and dealings with your company and support.  I would do the $399 option for the 5 units with OgNasty providing escrow during the 90 day period.  At the end of the 90 day period if the terms have been met, I'll submit the additional $250 and have the units shipped to me.  Upon receipt of the units, OgNasty would release the escrow.

Promotion: No additional fee's for credit card processing.

Intro:
OregonMines currently has over 100 Spondoolies-Tech SP20’s located in our Oregon location. We are offering 100 of them (SP20 ~1.6TH/s +-5% ) at $399/450 each with collocation.


Unit Pricing:
There must be interest in at least 25 units for this group buy to begin, The first 5 customers do not have to wait as we are new to the community and would like reviews.

$450 Each Shipping/insurance included – Shipping prepaid, after your colocation period is complete the unit(s) will be shipped to you (USA Destinations), or you may choose to renew.

$399 Each – After your colocation period is complete you can transfer the unit(s) to another person and they can continue colocation, renew your colocation or at any time you may stop your collocation pay a $50/unit fee and have the unit shipped anywhere in the USA without additional charges.

Bulk purchases can receive a discount


Colocation Details:
We require a SLA for all customers at our facility. Our facility draws power from the same substation as Google.

At all times DG Rollins LLC carries full business liability insurance.

Units will be mining within 24 hours of payment clearing.

Minimum 15 Days, anytime within the first 15 days you have the choice to keep the originally assigned unit or have it replaced with another, no questions asked.

$2.90 per Day - 288/288/288/288

Underclock settings / Pricing Available
$1.92 per Day - 180/180/180/180

Bulk and some length contracts can receive a discount.

At the end of your term you may choose to purchase additional time, or pay any applicable fees to remove the units.

Payment Details:
Bitcoin, wire transfer and credit card processor. If interested in credit card please send your information and you will be invoiced when it is available.
All prices above include a 5% Bitcoin/Cash/Wire payment discount; wire transfers have a $15 domestic / $16 international receiving fee.

Escrow Accepted (All fees paid by purchaser).

How to Order:
Post here with your interest AND send me a PM with your name, email, phone (if paying with credit card), method of payment, # of units wanted, # of days for colocation, pool/worker information and shipping address if prepaying the shipping.  After payment you will receive the purchased unit(s) serial number(s).







Please do not post anything Off Topic, please only post legitimate questions, comments and suggestions.