Topic: Osama bin Laden, George W Bush and Hitler: The biggest villains in history (Read 1687 times)

Hero is in the eye of the beholder.

Only two fictional characters on that list. I´d have added a few more, say Hannibal Lecter, Emperor Palatine and Bill Sikes. Good luck, g

LOL, more than a couple of million were democided in the 20th century. But yes, billions of people have suffered under Microsoft code, and the buck stops with Bill Gates. Wonder how many he's driven to suicide? I switched from Masochistsoft (daily hell even after regular backup/reformat/reinstall) to Apple as soon as I could afford a Mac Mini. Heaven.

Bill Gates is just an ordinary businessman, whose only conern is to create profit for himself and his family. He can't be compared to great people like Albert Einstein, Thomas Edison or Isaac Newton. And he can't be compared to mosters such as Adolph Hitler and Mao either. In my opinion, he shouldn't be on this list.

I agree completely, he shouldn't either be there at all or somewhere lower down the order.
Other than that though the list is pretty spot on for me.
Cheers

I think Nelson Mandela or Mahatma Gandhi should deserve best position
Racism is one of the best issue in the earth, and Mandela got suffering and effort to struggle the freedom of black people
Mahatma Gandhi taught us that we can oppose government within peaceful way
They have tried to made world became better place for us

Why George Bush jr won't be on that list? He invaded Iraq without any reason, directly causing millions of deaths, and indirectly creating a monster called ISIS. And Nelson Mandela is no saint either. He played his part in the ANC bombings which targeted the white civilians, in which killed hundreds of innocent people were killed.

It looks like they gave 40 choices and asked people to order them.
That's why you end up with people like Churchill being in the bottom half!

They should ask people to name the biggest villain in history, I guess Hitler would be number 1 and George Bush jr wouldn't be on the list!

Biggest hero in world history is difficult. I would have Nelson Mandela on the list. He was quite selfless. 

Proof or it didn't happen, fundie.

You should read Christopher Hitchen's book or essay on Mother Teressa humorously called The Missionary Position about how much of a cunt she was:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Missionary_Position

The worst is not on the list. The worst is the devil, who brought death into the world for all people.

The best is Jesus, Who through tons of pain and humiliation, brought eternal life to all who believe in Him.

LOL, sure, why not, let's compare her to other monsters created by the Catholic Church, that way she will actually appear to be less of the monster she actually was.

Check-and-mate-evil-atheists!!!11!!!elebenty!!1!!!!


Yeah, see that's the problem. When people declare they don't want to know the actual truth of a situation then lies thrive and a truly evil bitch becomes lionised as a 'Saint'.

I don't want to dig in the details. The media can make anyone a saint, and at the same time, it can make anyone a devil. There is no doubt that Theresa took care of the lepers when no one cared for them. But her primary motive was to convert more and more people to Christianity. And she, perhaps inadvertently, caused pain to these lepers when she gave priority to prayer over medicine.

At least when compared to the other Catholic saints such as Francis Xavier (who conducted the Goan inquisition in which tens of thousands of Hindus were tortured to death) and Junípero Serra (who conducted genocide against the Tongva people), she looks more humane. 

This kind of list remembers me competitions where the winner is defined by the verdict of a judge: any fighting one, dancing, runway, some gimnastics; there will always be disagreement with the results. Maybe this list was just made by one guy based on press and history facts that came to light, what about the stuff nobody knows, every human has defects, Therefore, some characters in that list does not deserve to be in the place where they are..

Did she fuck. 'Mother' Theresa was a delusional psychopath who believed that suffering was a way to get closer to her God, so she made sure everybody she was supposed to be caring for suffered. She refused medicines and spunked millions of dollars of the money she was routinely sent from people who had been lied to about her, on more fucking Nunneries because, you know, the world needs more delusional women who think they are married to a fictional omnipotent deity.

Einstein deserves to be no.1, above Teressa and Gandhi. Einstein improved the lives of billions of people, through his inventions.

On the other hand Gandhi took credit for something in which he played a very small part. He was a British collaborator, who ratted out patriotic Indians such as Bhagat Singh and Subhash Chandra Bose. Also, during partition, he indirectly caused hundreds of thousands of deaths.

Teressa did a lot for the lepers, but she was motivated by her desire to seek new converts to Christianity.

In November 1954, five months before his death, Einstein summarized his feelings about his role in the creation of the atomic bomb: "I made one great mistake in my life", even if he was a pacifist how he couldn't see what other humans would do with such energy discovery. It seems unfair that he is the number 1, above Gandhi.

To be fair, every US president since WW2 has committed war crimes so we can't put all the blame on Republicans like Dubya (Bush), Clinton and Obama also have their share of blood on their hands.

Oh, if he has done this then he too falls in the terrorist category. Shocking that he was a President of US with such a criminal record. http://www.forwardprogressives.com/germany-filing-war-crimes-charges-george-bush-dick-cheney/

Even "Dawood Ibrahim Kaskar" should have been listed here. He and Laden fall in the same category.

well i think this is complete list and Laden really was the biggest villain.

Dont forget Mao Zhe Dong & Kim jong un

He's a war criminal who illegally invaded Iraq (with falsified intelligence) and is responsible the deaths of over 1.2 million Iraqi civilians. In my books that pretty much makes him a bad guy. You're either with us or against us

GEORGE W. BUSH'S JOURNEY A Boy From Midland

A Philosophy With Roots in Conservative Texas Soil


By NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF

MIDLAND, Tex. -- The fourth-grade classroom erupted in titters as George W. Bush, one of the class clowns, faced his friends. He had quietly used an ink pen to draw a beard and long sideburns on his cheeks.

The teacher, Frances Childress, grabbed George by the arm, yanked him out of class and marched him down the long outside corridor to the principal's office near the main entrance to Sam Houston Elementary School.

"Just look at him," the principal, John Bizilo, recalls Mrs. Childress telling him. "He's been making a disturbance in class."

The next step was pretty obvious for anyone in the 1950's version of the West Texas oil town of Midland: Mr. Bizilo told George to bend over and then reached for his paddle, the thickness of a Ping-Pong paddle but narrower and twice as long. Mr. Bizilo gave George three "licks," and the boy's shrieks filled the office.

"When I hit him, he cried," Mr. Bizilo remembered the other day. "Oh, did he cry! He yelled as if he'd been shot. But he learned his lesson."

So he did. ... much more

http://partners.nytimes.com/library/politics/camp/052100wh-gop-bush-bio.html


Neal, Marvin, George and Jeb in 1958.

Having Fox News bring this list up w/ their usual panels of fake journalist/propagandists spouting their usual praise of the Bush and co would make for great television. Just watching them freak out in disbelief that Bush would be anywhere near Bin Laden would be amazing.

Brain washing.

Come on Willy, thought you'd have known that Reagan armed and diplomatically supported Pol Pot



http://www.nytimes.com/1981/12/10/world/reagan-is-urged-to-end-un-support-of-pol-pot.html

Muhammed is their God and hence they wouldn't believe that he is a villain. I wonder why George Bush is considered a criminal/terrorist. Haven't heard anything as such in the news.

No love for Pol Pot? Nah... I forgot how bad the liberal education system is... They don't even know that name...

 

The top end of the list are the most Heroic with the villains at the bottom. However, Mohammed seems to be in the middle but some people would count him as a terrorist whereas Most Muslims wont.

What is Jesus Christ, Muhammed and a Pope doing in such a list? Where the above have been known for their good work, they are being listed with criminals and terrorists? It doesn't make sense for their names to be added as well.

This is a list compiled of answers from the general public so of course they'll go with the defacto worlds biggest baddy Adolf Hitler regardless of the facts of how many people were executed. Didn't Mao kill more than both Stalin and Hitler any way?

I think Stalin should be number 1 on the list, Stalin ordered purges within the Soviet Union of any person deemed to be an enemy of the state. In total, estimates of the total number murdered under Stalins reign, range from 10 million to 60 million.

Ha what a joke. Osama Bin Laden can't even get close to Hitler and George Bush on the terrorist level. Some of the other's are funny too. Columbus was a maniac and didn't discover America but that's whitewashing for you http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/dominicselwood/100283798/columbus-greed-slavery-and-genocide-what-really-happened-to-the-american-indians/

Let me see...Here´s the rest of that news story


The students were asked to rate on a scale from one to seven how positive or negative the events and historical figures were. Findings showed a clear consensus about what the negative events were, but results were not as clear when it came to the villains themselves.

"There is greater disparity of opinion about the villains," the authors said. "The same figure may be very negatively rated in one country, or not very negatively or even very positively in another part of the world. That would be the case of Osama bin Laden, for example".

The study also showed that people tend to evaluate heroes positively, but do not completely vilify the villains. Páez explained: "They are those people defined as political, Machiavellian or pragmatic realists and when one considers that Hitler, Stalin or Saddam Hussein wielded power at some moment, these individuals don't have to be rated negatively because they were successful in their struggle for power. This 'Confucian' view emerges strongly in Asian countries.

"Above all, this variability is shown in the 'villains' because there is a certain cultural consensus on the 'heroes' suggested in this study; most of them agree that Einstein and Mandela are heroes. For example, the view of Osama bin Laden is more positive in Arab culture, and that of George W. Bush is much more negative and, conversely, if one takes American culture into consideration."

Concluding, the authors say the study suggests there is a clear consensus on the world's heroes, but the same is not so true for history's villains. There was greater variability between cultures, with the finding especially poignant for more recent baddies.

"The heroes are clearly scientists, discoverers and people who fought for liberties and progress. By contrast, the differentiation among the villains is much greater," Páez said. "Even if in almost all cultures the top villain, the worst rated, is Hitler, there is variability in some cultures in which he is evaluated less negatively."

What the hell Bill Gates doing in the middle zone? He's worse than Hitler, Stalin, Mao and Bush together... These dictators killed a couple of millions of ppl, but his bloody Windows and his f**kin Excel macros caused misery, suffering, (BSO)death and destruction for billions of ppl across the world.

I would put Stalin and Mao a bit closer to Hitler but other then that the list is what you can expect. Also Einstein is at top which is a bit of surprise, he was no villain but he helped construct nuclear bomb and was a genus but he was no leader like Martin Luther King or Nelson Mandela.

Well, I´m kinda disappointed to not find Billy Bob Clinton on that list somewhere. Guess all those terriers were busy hatching their evil plots in Langley, VA and elsewhere during his tenure.

LOL, Praise be to historical revisionism.

First, radical leftists and international power moguls spend boatloads of money to demonize Bush Jr., part of their scheme to put pussy Obama in office.

Second, poll people and find that Bush. Jr. was a demon.

Brilliant!

May 20, 2015 17:10 BST

Hitler, Osama bin Laden, and George W Bush have been found to be among the top 10 biggest villains of history, a global study polling almost 7,000 students has found.

While Hitler was the biggest villain, Albert Einstein was rated as most heroic. The full list can be seen at the end of this article.

The students, from 37 countries including Argentina, Pakistan, South Korea, Italy, and the US, were asked to evaluate 40 figures and significant events throughout world history.

Published in the journal PLOS One, findings show these historical figures help to create a base for building moral lessons.

Darío Páez, UPV/EHU-University of the Basque Country, said: "This study is linked to a previous piece of work carried out in 30 countries and in which young adults were asked to name the most important figures and events in world history.

"After that, we got together a group of figures and events gathered by all cultures, although with a reduced presence of facts and personalities from Arab and African cultures, as there were fewer surveys from these cultural areas." .... more

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/osama-bin-laden-george-w-bush-hitler-biggest-villains-history-1502228