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December 26, 2019, 10:45:07 PM
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1.- 100 years ago Nicola Tesla discover a technology called 'WiTricity', and yes, that's electricity without wires, and if we are not using it now is because the copper wire industry can't die, there is too much money involved.

Yes. The copperwire industry is stopping us from having wireless electricity lol
The losses in this kind of transfer are too high, that's the reason why it's not widespread today.

My highschool classmate built a Tesla coil himself, and we used it.
The transfer losses are enormous and not at all viable to use.
Besides from that, people complain about 4G and 5G killing birds and radiation, how do you think they'd react to a 100x pricier wireless transmitted electrical current?

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2.- Ask yourself why people keep going to church in 2019... for simple mortals is about faith, but for the religion is about to make from god their hooker and have him working 24/7-365. And if you think the religion make it for us and not for business, just look all that gold...

Yes. Those priest live such good lives with so many women and alcohol (oh wait, they don't have wives and don't drink o.o)

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3.- We already can make electric cars, the fuel cars make damage to our ambient and contribute to global warming, but the fuel cars production will not stop because #FuckEvolution #MoneyTalks

CO2 is plant food.

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-Why cure diseases and illnesses when profit can be made off them?

You will profit out of making a cure and you don't care that someone is making money off of it somehow else.

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-Why have efficient energy for free when profit is to be from oil?

We can't have efficient energy because countries heavily subsidize inefficent electric energy with taxpayer money while heavily critising the most efficient forms (nuclear).

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We are losing many great minds as well to people stuck in the capitalistic system.  They have to struggle just for basic needs like shelter and food as their talents and abilities go to waste.

If that's true how come Tesla didn't invent anything in his native Triune Kingdom of Croatia under the Austrian monarchy and moved to the capitalist USA? Where are all the Soviet scientists?

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Exactly, an incident happened few years back in my country, The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation picked up interested in sponsoring a vaccine that'll reduce/stop the spread of malaria as it's the N01 cause of death in my country but the medical/pharmaceutical association in my country rejected the offer with the claim, malaria treatment is their main source of income and spraying the vaccine will stop their source of income.

You can't stop the free market.
You can stop the goverment with lobbyng.
Goverment run healthcare = inefficient lobbyng group

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and speaking of religion (church) that one have been turned into a full time business in my country. We now have more numbers and very well built churches than schools.

I don't see the priests driving around in Ferraris.
And even if they did, why would it be a bad thing?

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I was trying to explain with different examples why our capitalism minds don't let us evolve... but if those were nonsense for you i would like to give another example... Just think about RAM memory card, the production cost of the 2GB card and the 8GB card is almost the same. So, why keep creating 2GB cards?

You should start a RAM business and make yourself a wealthy man.

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We have been conditioned to think and prioritise in a capitalist way. This pushes us towards valuing accumulation of money and consumer goods above concerns such as the welfare of individuals, establishment of a 'fair' society where everyone has equal opportunities, establishment of a guaranteed minimum standard of living with universal rights such as free speech, healthcare, fair trial etc.
Pursuit of money or pursuit of individual interest makes everyones life better.

“It is not from the benevolence (kindness) of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker that we expect our dinner, but from their regard to their own interest.”

By pursuing individual interest, people make society better as a whole because in order to obtain currency you have to produce something of value that will make other peoples lives better.
100s of millions of people operating this way gave the average man a car, a phone and a laptop.

legendary
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October 10, 2019, 06:43:53 AM
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I think there is a distinction here between evolution and prioritisation.
We have been conditioned to think and prioritise in a capitalist way. This pushes us towards valuing accumulation of money and consumer goods above concerns such as the welfare of individuals, establishment of a 'fair' society where everyone has equal opportunities, establishment of a guaranteed minimum standard of living with universal rights such as free speech, healthcare, fair trial etc. Pursuit of money actively works against many of these things.
I think there are two areas where it impinges on evolution. One is welfare of the natural environment. In pursuit of money we have created this climate crisis, which has a direct impact on our future survival. Second is the increasing effects of advancing technology. Natural evolution works on a long timescale. Artifical evolution is coming, with designer babies, DNA engineering etc. Our evolution as a species will be increasingly determined by how we apply technology rather than on blind chance and survival-of-the-fittest. And how we apply technology will be based on our values and ethics, which is where capitalism can have a large effect.
legendary
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September 07, 2019, 06:19:42 PM
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1 - Nonsense.
2 - Religion is just another Limited Company, and a highly successful one, selling the same service (hope for the poor, stability and social order for the governments) for centuries.
3 - Electric cars do not pollute less, the pollution is simply placed somewhere else. Don´t get me wrong, I think all cars should be electric in 5 years for the health of the people that live in cities mostly.


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What I mean is, we are close to 2020, and some places like abu dhabi dubai or japan proof how a society can grow when they spend in technology,  in a couple of years while we drive our cars them will be playing in drones.

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Japan proves how an economy can be in permanent crisis for 2 decades while having and awful standard of living and plenty of work hours.
UAE and Dubai show how petrodollars can be spent by "the 5%"
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August 23, 2019, 06:19:55 PM
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I wouldn't call it capitalist, it's pure human nature.

People don't want to swallow the bitter pill for long term benefit. They want the sweetness now.

It happens everywhere. A prime candidate is democratic politics. A friend of my father's was in the UK government and he was telling us a story about the 2008 meltdown. A government minister was throwing ideas at him about what to do. He threw out every useful idea proposed to him and simply said 'what will get us elected again?' That's all he cared about.

Imagine how differently our countries would be run if the people we voted for were looking 20-30 years ahead rather than the next election.

No one's going to throw away their own benefits for the greater good.

For some reason Bitcoin Twitter has started using the term 'low time preference'. Fuck knows why because it's delayed gratification by a stupider name. That's what most humans can't handle and that's what cripples most of the progress surrounding us.
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August 11, 2019, 11:00:13 AM
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1 - Nonsense.
2 - Religion is just another Limited Company, and a highly successful one, selling the same service (hope for the poor, stability and social order for the governments) for centuries.
3 - Electric cars do not pollute less, the pollution is simply placed somewhere else. Don´t get me wrong, I think all cars should be electric in 5 years for the health of the people that live in cities mostly.



I was trying to explain with different examples why our capitalism minds don't let us evolve... but if those were nonsense for you i would like to give another example... Just think about RAM memory card, the production cost of the 2GB card and the 8GB card is almost the same. So, why keep creating 2GB cards?

What I mean is, we are close to 2020, and some places like abu dhabi dubai or japan proof how a society can grow when they spend in technology,  in a couple of years while we drive our cars them will be playing in drones.

legendary
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August 11, 2019, 09:05:55 AM
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Let's ask ourselves what's more important, Money or Evolution?

In the first instance, you will think evolution is our priority, but with 3 examples I can prove how money is a priority over evolution.

1.- 100 years ago Nicola Tesla discover a technology called 'WiTricity', and yes, that's electricity without wires, and if we are not using it now is because the copper wire industry can't die, there is too much money involved.

2.- Ask yourself why people keep going to church in 2019... for simple mortals is about faith, but for the religion is about to make from god their hooker and have him working 24/7-365. And if you think the religion make it for us and not for business, just look all that gold...

3.- We already can make electric cars, the fuel cars make damage to our ambient and contribute to global warming, but the fuel cars production will not stop because #FuckEvolution #MoneyTalks

1 - Nonsense.
2 - Religion is just another Limited Company, and a highly successful one, selling the same service (hope for the poor, stability and social order for the governments) for centuries.
3 - Electric cars do not pollute less, the pollution is simply placed somewhere else. Don´t get me wrong, I think all cars should be electric in 5 years for the health of the people that live in cities mostly.

legendary
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what is this "brake pedal" you speak of?
evolution has been stopped, or greatly reduced, by technology. once we fingered out how to control the environment and stopped the environment controling us, we no longer need to evolve.

in fact we may be devolving. modern medicine keeps alive those who would of died from bad genes even a hundred years ago. thus less desirable genes that would of been removed from the gene pool now contribute to it.



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I'll share my opinion about this. Definitely, the priority of most of the people here are the benefits for oneself, and how do they achieve that? It's through profit/money. That's the main goal of everyone and we cannot blame them entirely because that's how people were brought up, knowing that you NEED money to survive, you NEED money to eat, etc. Especially with the current technology now compared to 100 years ago, it's a fast-paced development of technology.

Maybe the power that the corporations have is not able to let go of it because of the money. They have experienced it enough that they don't want to let go and it's how the world goes round and round. Maybe they have the idea of being an environmentalist but they cannot just rapidly change their ways because of "environmental" stuff. It's just like you said, they choose to ignore the fact that they could evolve. That's just pure selfishness. For me, it's definitely Evolution has to have the priority. The environment is the priority, it's OUR home.


1.- 100 years ago Nicola Tesla discover a technology called 'WiTricity', and yes, that's electricity without wires, and if we are not using it now is because the copper wire industry can't die, there is too much money involved.
I don't believe I encountered that term "WiTricity". What I found is that it's been established in 2007 by Marin Soljačić. http://witricity.com/

Any research articles with that? We are just on the verge of wireless charging, and I think it would be a crucial development for Technology.

2.- Ask yourself why people keep going to church in 2019... for simple mortals is about faith, but for the religion is about to make from god their hooker and have him working 24/7-365. And if you think the religion make it for us and not for business, just look all that gold...
People were led to thinking that they need to depend on someone or someone can take blame or something. Little did everyone know that it's us, the person, that makes the decisions, not God or anybody else. So we should be at fault.

3.- We already can make electric cars, the fuel cars make damage to our ambient and contribute to global warming, but the fuel cars production will not stop because #FuckEvolution #MoneyTalks
It's basically how the economy works. People need jobs, they work in a manufacturing company, if they stop, then there would be no work for them. In order for the company to continue having offers for jobs, they need to profit, and when you have profit, you keep manufacturing. That's just how the world works now.

Basically, new things are invented for the improvement of the world we have today, it's just the people who are affected by not being able to let it go completely. It's a hard decision. Might as well get snapped by Thanos. Lol.
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1.- 100 years ago Nicola Tesla discover a technology called 'WiTricity', and yes, that's electricity without wires, and if we are not using it now is because the copper wire industry can't die, there is too much money involved.
Actually 'WiTricity' Or Wireless Electicity Transmission Is Very Inefficient And Ineffective
We Use Cooper Wire Because It's More Efficient+Cheap, Not Because Some GREEDY CAPITALIST CONSPIRACY.

Wireless Electricity Transmission Is Very Inefficient, Even In The Short Range (Like The One In Wireless Charging) The Efficiency Is Only Around 70%, The Long Range Transmision(Like The One You Said) Will Be Worse.

Drowning In Inefficiency
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Exactly, an incident happened few years back in my country, The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation picked up interested in sponsoring a vaccine that'll reduce/stop the spread of malaria as it's the N01 cause of death in my country but the medical/pharmaceutical association in my country rejected the offer with the claim, malaria treatment is their main source of income and spraying the vaccine will stop their source of income.

Perhaps it is better that your country is refused "gift" from Bill Gates, becuse some reports say that in some countries where his vaccine is tested, many children died in quite suspicious circumstances. The countries most commonly mentioned are India and Bosnia and Herzegovina, but it is hard to find more information on the Internet, most of them are removed / deleted.

For example Gavi is carried out vaccination against hepatitis B in Bosnia and Herzegovina, and in 10 years of this project  there is over 2000 babies died which are related to this vaccine.

This is original link : http://www.4dportal.com/ljudi-iznad-vremena/3182-tisuce-beba-u-bih-umrlo-zbog-cjepiva-a-hrvatska-taji-da-ga-ispituje-na-vlastitoj-djeci

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-Why cure diseases and illnesses when profit can be made off them?

Exactly, an incident happened few years back in my country, The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation picked up interested in sponsoring a vaccine that'll reduce/stop the spread of malaria as it's the N01 cause of death in my country but the medical/pharmaceutical association in my country rejected the offer with the claim, malaria treatment is their main source of income and spraying the vaccine will stop their source of income.

It's quite shameful how humanity have placed valued on money over human life  and speaking of religion (church) that one have been turned into a full time business in my country. We now have more numbers and very well built churches than schools.
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February 28, 2019, 09:39:40 AM
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Capitalism won't solve the problems that help society the most, it will always look for the most profit.

-Why cure diseases and illnesses when profit can be made off them?

-Why have efficient energy for free when profit is to be from oil?

   -can keep listing ending examples like this


We are losing many great minds as well to people stuck in the capitalistic system.  They have to struggle just for basic needs like shelter and food as their talents and abilities go to waste.
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February 28, 2019, 08:28:31 AM
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I think capitalism allow and somehow encourage people to evolve in certain aspects of live. (Like material and educational). Spiritual evolution (or whatever you call it) is not related to how the government and the economy are organized imo.

Previous systems like feudalism were much less encouraging. Most of people couldn't change their status in life. The richest countries today are the ones who moved from feudalism to capitalist systems.

Socialism is also not encouraging any evolution, as people doesn't have incentives to do so. Just take a look at Russia, China, North Korea , Venezuela, and compare to capitalist countries like USA, England, Australia, Germany. Where does citizens have more freedom and will to evolve?

So, I believe capitalism is the least worse system.
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February 27, 2019, 03:15:51 PM
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From conspiracy theories to reality.. there's quite a step. But I'll share my views.

1. I don't know about Tesla, so I won't comment on that.

2. Church was a great tool to make commoners stay calm and accept the authority. Since they were on the authority side, they always had properties, slaves, money. It's now, at later years they "have to survive" and adapted to current century business. And they live because of tradition, because the school is still not efficient enough to help people think and understand outside world...
Also many don't go to church because of faith, no, they go because they want the current century's commoners see them.
It's ... complicated. It's unfortunately much more complicated than just money, than just a business.

3. This is more a conspiracy theory what you wrote.
Electric cars rely on batteries. And batteries are still weak and expensive.
A driver that doesn't leave the city (even a taxi driver) will prefer a cheap car that does the job. Many convert their cars to use GPL and they come cheaper or "fuel".
A driver that leaves the city may not be happy with the autonomy of the electric car. My parents live at 200 km from me, doable. My wife's parents are at some 400 km, so it may already be tricky with electric car. If I want to go skiing or to the seaside I have to go 600-1000 km. And most probably there's no electric car charging facility on those roads. Dang.
And yeah, keeping an electric car for in-city and one for going out is not a good business, it's too expensive.
So if it's about money, it's not about the industry's money, instead it's about the consumer's money and, more than money, it's about convenience. Electric cars are the ones that need to evolve.
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February 27, 2019, 10:22:41 AM
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Let's ask ourselves what's more important, Money or Evolution?

In the first instance, you will think evolution is our priority, but with 3 examples I can prove how money is a priority over evolution.

1.- 100 years ago Nicola Tesla discover a technology called 'WiTricity', and yes, that's electricity without wires, and if we are not using it now is because the copper wire industry can't die, there is too much money involved.

2.- Ask yourself why people keep going to church in 2019... for simple mortals is about faith, but for the religion is about to make from god their hooker and have him working 24/7-365. And if you think the religion make it for us and not for business, just look all that gold...


3.- We already can make electric cars, the fuel cars make damage to our ambient and contribute to global warming, but the fuel cars production will not stop because #FuckEvolution #MoneyTalks
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