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Topic: Overstock’s Radical Plan to Reinvent the Stock Market With Bitcoin (Read 1533 times)

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Indeed it is rare that you get a bigwig like this, in charge of a big company, who thinks a little outside the box.  Usually people have to sacrifice a lot of independence on their way to the top, it seems.
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I had the sheer pleasure of talking to PB for 30 minutes at Bitcoin2014 in Amsterdam.....he's a very smart cookie with a serious hatred of the sheer greed, stupidity and incompetence that riddles our current financial system.

Check out his keynote speech, its long but it's worth the time:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkf04kQw1YU

I gotta point out that PB is not purely a BTC advocate, but is for crypto in general, even NXT  Grin
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He sounds pretty angry when you hear him talk about Wall Street and traditional FIAT monetary systems that way.
Which is obviously a good thing. Overstock all the way!
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This could be interesting.
legendary
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lose: unfind ... loose: untight
Byrne is a Rockstar.

Have you ever watched his tutorial series on Naked Short Selling? Highly recommended.

This made me laugh:

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Angel agrees that a cryptosecurity could close certain market loopholes. But he also questions whether it would suit the high-speed world of Wall Street trading. “There’s some latency in settling a bitcoin trade. It can take anywhere from several seconds to hours to get a transactions completed,” he says. “In a world where people want to trade quickly, putting that kind of a delay into the system could make it a non-starter.”

The aberration that _allows_ for naked short selling is the fact that stocks are supposed to settle within a couple of days after the transaction is made. And sometimes they don't. A Naked Short Sale of several days is indistinguishable from a several day Failure To Settle. This is the very mechanism by which the pinstriped bandits steal the wealth of the populace.

This Angel guy is harping about an hour? What a shill.
legendary
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Still no Bitcoin option for UK customers Sad
legendary
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A Great Time to Start Something!
He sounds pretty angry when you hear him talk about Wall Street and traditional FIAT monetary systems that way. Didn't Overstock have some problems with sales, as well? I mean Amazon is pretty much the market leader anyways!

He is angry. He is a very interesting character who is one of the few CEOs that is an outspoken critic of Wall Street. There was a cool article about him a while ago, let me find a link. http://www.wired.com/2014/02/rise-fall-rise-patrick-byrne/

Yes, Amazon is obviously bigger than Overstock, but I've started to use overstock more because not only do they support bitcoin, but they also treat their customers and workers very well. Not to suggest that Amazon doesn't, but Overstock has been very highly rated for employee and customer satisfaction. Here is an example http://investors.overstock.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=131091&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=1503943&highlight=


Knowledge is Power.  Smiley
I have not been shopping much lately, but will certainly remember to give Overstock.com a try soon, thank for the positive review.
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Knowledge is Power
He sounds pretty angry when you hear him talk about Wall Street and traditional FIAT monetary systems that way. Didn't Overstock have some problems with sales, as well? I mean Amazon is pretty much the market leader anyways!

He is angry. He is a very interesting character who is one of the few CEOs that is an outspoken critic of Wall Street. There was a cool article about him a while ago, let me find a link. http://www.wired.com/2014/02/rise-fall-rise-patrick-byrne/

Yes, Amazon is obviously bigger than Overstock, but I've started to use overstock more because not only do they support bitcoin, but they also treat their customers and workers very well. Not to suggest that Amazon doesn't, but Overstock has been very highly rated for employee and customer satisfaction. Here is an example http://investors.overstock.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=131091&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=1503943&highlight=

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There's some extremely creative folks out there
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"unveiled a webpage that explores how a public company could issue a “cryptosecurity” to potential investors"

Anyone have access  or screenshots of this?
the word 'webpage' from the very quote you quoted is a link.. or simply

https://o.info/index.php/How_to_issue_a_cryptosecurity

Oh haha. Thanks. Their links are hard for me to see.
legendary
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easy to achieve. i call it Double chains

imagine Alice had um... Wheatcoin(coin representing stock of a farm) and wanted to trade with john for USDCoin(coin backed by US Dollar)

in a usual transaction you would see

Quote from: Alice
Vout 14MadeUpAddressBlaBlaBlah
Vin 14notherMadeUpAddressBlaBlaBlah
Value 100000000

(imagine the quotebox is alice signing the transaction)
now imagine the wheat for dollar blockchain and the security-qt.exe program will give them Uaddresses for USD and W addresses for wheat... but there is nothing stopping them also having other addresses and the blockchain able to keep a ledger of more then two values per transaction/block. but anyways this is a simple example of how a signed transaction would look on a decentralized peer-to-peer exchange

Quote from: Alice
Quote from: john
Quote from: Alice
Vout W4MadeUpAddressBlaBlaBlah
Vin Wnother4MadeUpAddressBlaBlaBlah
Value 100000000
Quote from: John
Vout Unother4MadeUpAddressBlaBlaBlah
Vin U4MadeUpAddressBlaBlaBlah
Value 100000000

so alice made her pledge and signed it. john receives it. makes his pledge then signs it. and then signs the two together. sends this to alice who signs them together also. so they both agree.

then it gets sent to be mined.

the new block will show the swap..

all that needs to be figured out is how to get the security-qt.exe to receive enough node connections (people) to build up a big enough list of 'offers', rather than just having a couple dozen connections that some people normally only get in bitcoin-core.exe at any one time.

i proposed this ages back as a method of decentralizing exchanges, yet it fell on deaf ears
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A Great Time to Start Something!
"...all stock trades would be governed by tools in the hands of the general public rather than by a traditional stock exchange, such as the NASDAQ or the New York Stock Exchange, and these trades would be mathematically verified and recorded in an online ledger that anyone can view at anytime—something that, Byrne believes, could eliminate some serious flaws in the world of high-stakes trading."

BTC is changing the world!  Smiley
legendary
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"unveiled a webpage that explores how a public company could issue a “cryptosecurity” to potential investors"

Anyone have access  or screenshots of this?
the word 'webpage' from the very quote you quoted is a link.. or simply

https://o.info/index.php/How_to_issue_a_cryptosecurity
legendary
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Well it's rumored that bitcoin was started to counter a service {Banks} that cheated him. Revenge is a good motivator, when people feel they are being bullied by corporate structures.

Always good to see a bully getting ass whipped.  Grin
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"unveiled a webpage that explores how a public company could issue a “cryptosecurity” to potential investors"

Anyone have access  or screenshots of this?
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Trust me!
He sounds pretty angry when you hear him talk about Wall Street and traditional FIAT monetary systems that way. Didn't Overstock have some problems with sales, as well? I mean Amazon is pretty much the market leader anyways!
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“I wish to provide the world a way to give Wall Street some payback,” he says, “in the form of a massive hot fudge high colonic that would be a cryptosecurity.”

 Grin
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The more I read about this guy the more I like him. The idea isn't new but a company the size of Overstock backing the idea is.
“We want a money that some government mandarin can’t just whisk into existence with a pen stroke,”
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Overstock’s Radical Plan to Reinvent the Stock Market With Bitcoin

http://www.wired.com/2014/07/overstock-and-cryptocurrency/
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