I would like to see a Pacquaio Ugas rematch but in all honesty I would be happier if Manny just retired.
It’s quite heart breaking to see a great boxer who you followed for many years just not performing at a high level anymore.
Neil Young had a quote, “Its better to burn out than to fade away”.
On the other hand, I can see why Manny wants to fight and I suppose if people want to see him then I have no problem with it but I would rather remember him at his peak then remember him from his last performance against Ugas.
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The speed isnt the same when he's still on his prime.
The power isnt really that same calibre when he's still on his prime.
The footstep or lower body strength isnt the same.
and thats because of age and some mix of lacking of enough training due to other career that he's been taking.
I do agree that rematch isnt needed but if he wants too then lets just support it.
The power isnt really that same calibre when he's still on his prime.
The footstep or lower body strength isnt the same.
and thats because of age and some mix of lacking of enough training due to other career that he's been taking.
I do agree that rematch isnt needed but if he wants too then lets just support it.
His speed might lessen but he still has that speed but not the same as his prime, and like I said that strength is not really the same that is my issue about Pacquiao right now and that rematch is not really needed he can just settle down and at the end of the day his still be Manny Pacquiao, the greatest boxer there is, and yes age his surely be a big factor indeed, he should listen more on his fans and analysis about him, but yes if he wants a rematch he can surely have it.
If Manny did listen to us he would not become where he is now, he definitely knows what he is doing, I understand the concern, but that loss is still one loss and he as a champion by heart would want to prove that despite his age, it's not a hindrance for him being successful. His corner still believes in him and it's normal that the first reaction after the loss is that a fighter would think of quitting, but later he realizes that he is a warrior and he wants to have another chance.
Now, I'm also convinced that Manny still has something to give, his speed is his advantage and hopefully, he can have that in the rematch.
Well, maybe the lack of training and his age is a big factor for him losing to Yurdenis Ugas, but at the end of the day his decision still matters here, and like you have said he knows his body pretty well, but there are still points in analysis about him that he needs to listen to get some idea and certainly advice for himself,
If he would call for a rematch or just settle down for retirement the Filipino community is still supporting him, in my case not in politics, but with his decision on his boxing career.
It seems like Manny Pacquiao is still interested on the rematch.
This news came up and we might see a rematch early next year.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/boxing/boxing-manny-pacquiao-vs-yordenis-ugas-rematch-latest-news-reaction-dates/news-story/a375d046b5266f71734a83fc998ddd06
He wants to fight because he thinks he was not able to give his 100% in that fight, his legs were tight so he was not able to move well like he usually do in his previous fight, and we all witness that, so maybe let's give him a chance.
Please post some updates and speculation regarding the fight so this thread will be more informative.
I am not against it however Manny really needs to train as hard as possible because if he losses against Ugas again I think there will be many voices that are probably going to ask him to finally retire, as a fan of boxing in general this is not something that I want, however it seems that finally age is catching up to him and as we know father time is undefeated, but I hope Manny can set the clock back a few years and can show Ugas his real potential and can come up with a win during the rematch. This news came up and we might see a rematch early next year.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/boxing/boxing-manny-pacquiao-vs-yordenis-ugas-rematch-latest-news-reaction-dates/news-story/a375d046b5266f71734a83fc998ddd06
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Pacquiao, 42, told The Athletic website that he may consider fighting Ugas again in January following his unanimous decision loss to the 35-year-old in Las Vegas on Saturday.
“Yes, I can come back in January. I will see about it,” Pacquiao told the website. “I know I can rematch him if I want. I’ll just need to tell (promoter) Al Haymon. That would be no problem.” Ugas said in the aftermath of his win on Saturday, where he clinically picked off Pacquiao from long range to score a deserved victory, that he would be willing to offer the eight-division world champion a rematch.
“Yes, I can come back in January. I will see about it,” Pacquiao told the website. “I know I can rematch him if I want. I’ll just need to tell (promoter) Al Haymon. That would be no problem.” Ugas said in the aftermath of his win on Saturday, where he clinically picked off Pacquiao from long range to score a deserved victory, that he would be willing to offer the eight-division world champion a rematch.
He wants to fight because he thinks he was not able to give his 100% in that fight, his legs were tight so he was not able to move well like he usually do in his previous fight, and we all witness that, so maybe let's give him a chance.
Please post some updates and speculation regarding the fight so this thread will be more informative.
Pacquiao is 42 years old and lost in this fight he should conform and accept this and retire rather than wanting another fight and ending badly for him, as some members have said here in this thread that his speed is no longer the same, his physical condition it's not the same because of his age, you don't need to be an expert to know that he would lose again if he fought again and could even end up with some injury, there's no sense in fighting again
Pacquiao once said that boxing is his passion, so no one can stop him as long as people would still watch his fight. Let us ony not talk about passion here, but more on the money or the purse, he will get. In the Philippine peso, in just one fight, he can already make a fortune so there's a reason why he keeps fighting because he also wants to collect that money.
look at this figure, and tell me if one would not choose to get it in just one fight.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2947447-pacquiao-vs-ugas-purse-known-prize-money-payout-distribution
look at this figure, and tell me if one would not choose to get it in just one fight.
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Per BusinessMirror, Pacquiao is expected to earn a $5 million guaranteed purse and could earn up to $25 million depending on how well the pay-per-view sold. The Fox Sports PPV price is $74.99, per Michael Benson of TalkSport.
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2947447-pacquiao-vs-ugas-purse-known-prize-money-payout-distribution
As a Filipino and really wants to support every Filipino boxer and Manny Pacquiao is the all-time greatest, me a rematch is not really needed, I really think that he has now a frail body for a 42 of age, and I have seen in one of our mainstream media, he has been literally spooned feed by his wife Jinkee Pacquiao because he can not open his eyes because it was swollen after the fight with Yordenis Ugas, and that was for 3 days, I really think he doesn't really need that rematch and settle down with his family, but it is still his decision and right now his friend and Coach Buboy Fernandez said he wants a befitting end on Pacquiao boxing career, so a 1 more fight will surely not hurt him.
If Manny did listen to us he would not become where he is now, he definitely knows what he is doing, I understand the concern, but that loss is still one loss and he as a champion by heart would want to prove that despite his age, it's not a hindrance for him being successful. His corner still believes in him and it's normal that the first reaction after the loss is that a fighter would think of quitting, but later he realizes that he is a warrior and he wants to have another chance.
Now, I'm also convinced that Manny still has something to give, his speed is his advantage and hopefully, he can have that in the rematch.
As a Filipino and really wants to support every Filipino boxer and Manny Pacquiao is the all-time greatest, me a rematch is not really needed, I really think that he has now a frail body for a 42 of age, and I have seen in one of our mainstream media, he has been literally spooned feed by his wife Jinkee Pacquiao because he can not open his eyes because it was swollen after the fight with Yordenis Ugas, and that was for 3 days, I really think he doesn't really need that rematch and settle down with his family, but it is still his decision and right now his friend and Coach Buboy Fernandez said he wants a befitting end on Pacquiao boxing career, so a 1 more fight will surely not hurt him.
The speed isnt the same when he's still on his prime.The power isnt really that same calibre when he's still on his prime.
The footstep or lower body strength isnt the same.
and thats because of age and some mix of lacking of enough training due to other career that he's been taking.
I do agree that rematch isnt needed but if he wants too then lets just support it.
As a Filipino and really wants to support every Filipino boxer and Manny Pacquiao is the all-time greatest, me a rematch is not really needed, I really think that he has now a frail body for a 42 of age, and I have seen in one of our mainstream media, he has been literally spooned feed by his wife Jinkee Pacquiao because he can not open his eyes because it was swollen after the fight with Yordenis Ugas, and that was for 3 days, I really think he doesn't really need that rematch and settle down with his family, but it is still his decision and right now his friend and Coach Buboy Fernandez said he wants a befitting end on Pacquiao boxing career, so a 1 more fight will surely not hurt him.
Quick, check Manny's brain it seems to be damage, 
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Kidding aside, if he wants a rematch against Ugas, then let him fight. I also thought that he is done, but what a turn of events. Ugas is willing to give him that rematch so it can be done prior to the Philippine election in election in May. But if Manny losses then his political career goes to the drain as well.
.Kidding aside, if he wants a rematch against Ugas, then let him fight. I also thought that he is done, but what a turn of events. Ugas is willing to give him that rematch so it can be done prior to the Philippine election in election in May. But if Manny losses then his political career goes to the drain as well.
Quite funny, but maybe some nerve inside his brain got shaken
after that fight he already considering the possibilities of retiring, but after some days now he's thinking about the rematch.Oh well, just like what he said, it's easy to call for this fight since all he have to do is to call the promoters and give his side as he's willing to call for the rematch.
He was not convinced with Ugas defeat on him because he had some problems during the fight, it's very evident that he is not moving well and that is due to leg cramps he experience, once and for all let's give him a chance to fight as he knows what he is doing and he is in control of his body. There's still enough time for training, so I think next time if he loses, he cannot make excuses again.
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Also, maybe he's thinking that the win may lift up his Presidential bid survey.. Just Kidding 
Win or lose, his rating will not improve.
Quick, check Manny's brain it seems to be damage, .
Kidding aside, if he wants a rematch against Ugas, then let him fight. I also thought that he is done, but what a turn of events. Ugas is willing to give him that rematch so it can be done prior to the Philippine election in election in May. But if Manny losses then his political career goes to the drain as well.
.Kidding aside, if he wants a rematch against Ugas, then let him fight. I also thought that he is done, but what a turn of events. Ugas is willing to give him that rematch so it can be done prior to the Philippine election in election in May. But if Manny losses then his political career goes to the drain as well.
Quite funny, but maybe some nerve inside his brain got shaken
after that fight he already considering the possibilities of retiring, but after some days now he's thinking about the rematch.Oh well, just like what he said, it's easy to call for this fight since all he have to do is to call the promoters and give his side as he's willing to call for the rematch.
Also, maybe he's thinking that the win may lift up his Presidential bid survey.. Just Kidding
Quick, check Manny's brain it seems to be damage, .
Kidding aside, if he wants a rematch against Ugas, then let him fight. I also thought that he is done, but what a turn of events. Ugas is willing to give him that rematch so it can be done prior to the Philippine election in election in May. But if Manny losses then his political career goes to the drain as well.
.Kidding aside, if he wants a rematch against Ugas, then let him fight. I also thought that he is done, but what a turn of events. Ugas is willing to give him that rematch so it can be done prior to the Philippine election in election in May. But if Manny losses then his political career goes to the drain as well.
It should happen in January 2022 or there will be no rematch next year.
Based on the comelec rules, Manny will be busy by February because the campaign period will start.
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Based on the calendar of activities for the May 9, 2022 National and Local Elections (NLE) released by the poll body, the campaign period for national positions is from Feb. 8, 2022, to May 7, 2022, or 90 days before the scheduled elections.
source : https://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1140697#:~:text=Based%20on%20the%20calendar%20of,days%20before%20the%20scheduled%20elections.
They underestimated Ugas and thought that it will be an easy fight for him, but they are all wrong as Manny was dominated in my eyes.
Their expectation is wrong but during the fight, we saw who dominate the fight and even a fan of Manny Pacquiao, we know he clearly lose in that fight. If he was 100% in that lose, the probably he will not ask for a rematch, but he was having a problem with his legged (probably overtrained), so this rematch is very important to try to get a win against the champion.
Quick, check Manny's brain it seems to be damage, .
Kidding aside, if he wants a rematch against Ugas, then let him fight. I also thought that he is done, but what a turn of events. Ugas is willing to give him that rematch so it can be done prior to the Philippine election in election in May. But if Manny losses then his political career goes to the drain as well.
.Kidding aside, if he wants a rematch against Ugas, then let him fight. I also thought that he is done, but what a turn of events. Ugas is willing to give him that rematch so it can be done prior to the Philippine election in election in May. But if Manny losses then his political career goes to the drain as well.
Supporters have accepted it already, in fact, they are suggesting that Manny should retire as he does not need to prove anything since he achieves the legendary status and is the only 8th division world champion, it's actually him who think he is not yet done and one more time, he wants to dance with Ugas.
If so, then at first glance Manny is still not satisfied and wants to once again prove his status as a Legendary boxer. But that's a fact, it's not just boxing athletes who are dissatisfied with the results of their fights. Moreover, those of us who bet we lost for supporting Manny, do we really deserve to bet back on him? I think many do not want to lose a second time. There are still many bets waiting instead of watching a rematch whose outcome will not be much different.
Manny is not satisfied because he thinks that Ugas is one of the easiest opponent, you don't expect to hear from a fight after he got dominated in the fight and beat him via unanimous decision, so there must be something and let us help him prove that in the 2nd fight or possibly the final match.
Supporters have accepted it already, in fact, they are suggesting that Manny should retire as he does not need to prove anything since he achieves the legendary status and is the only 8th division world champion, it's actually him who think he is not yet done and one more time, he wants to dance with Ugas.
If so, then at first glance Manny is still not satisfied and wants to once again prove his status as a Legendary boxer. But that's a fact, it's not just boxing athletes who are dissatisfied with the results of their fights. Moreover, those of us who bet we lost for supporting Manny, do we really deserve to bet back on him? I think many do not want to lose a second time. There are still many bets waiting instead of watching a rematch whose outcome will not be much different.
It seems like Manny Pacquiao is still interested on the rematch.
This news came up and we might see a rematch early next year.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/boxing/boxing-manny-pacquiao-vs-yordenis-ugas-rematch-latest-news-reaction-dates/news-story/a375d046b5266f71734a83fc998ddd06
He wants to fight because he thinks he was not able to give his 100% in that fight, his legs were tight so he was not able to move well like he usually do in his previous fight, and we all witness that, so maybe let's give him a chance.
Please post some updates and speculation regarding the fight so this thread will be more informative.
This news came up and we might see a rematch early next year.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/boxing/boxing-manny-pacquiao-vs-yordenis-ugas-rematch-latest-news-reaction-dates/news-story/a375d046b5266f71734a83fc998ddd06
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Pacquiao, 42, told The Athletic website that he may consider fighting Ugas again in January following his unanimous decision loss to the 35-year-old in Las Vegas on Saturday.
“Yes, I can come back in January. I will see about it,” Pacquiao told the website. “I know I can rematch him if I want. I’ll just need to tell (promoter) Al Haymon. That would be no problem.” Ugas said in the aftermath of his win on Saturday, where he clinically picked off Pacquiao from long range to score a deserved victory, that he would be willing to offer the eight-division world champion a rematch.
“Yes, I can come back in January. I will see about it,” Pacquiao told the website. “I know I can rematch him if I want. I’ll just need to tell (promoter) Al Haymon. That would be no problem.” Ugas said in the aftermath of his win on Saturday, where he clinically picked off Pacquiao from long range to score a deserved victory, that he would be willing to offer the eight-division world champion a rematch.
He wants to fight because he thinks he was not able to give his 100% in that fight, his legs were tight so he was not able to move well like he usually do in his previous fight, and we all witness that, so maybe let's give him a chance.
Please post some updates and speculation regarding the fight so this thread will be more informative.
Wow good!! This is great news, I like this on the part of Ugás, quite the opposite of Mayweather who when he fought against Pacquiao as soon as he finished told him that he did not want revenge, and this for me I see as a sign of fear, Ugás to come from a life He has managed to win for himself and his country very hard and I think a very ethical and sporting gesture that accepts that Pacquiao was not at his 100% and has the opportunity to face him again, he really is a boxer who deserves all the respect. It will be interesting that Pacquiao manages to prepare very well and we can see this meeting, I think that Pacquiao's age is not an impediment to the sport, on the contrary, he enjoys a great experience.
The circumstances have changed since he's still just a boxer. We all know he's a high ranking politician and I also read that he's planning to run for the highest position in his country next year. You have to wonder why he's going to fight again of all times. He needs more money for his political campaign for sure.
^ Possible reason and we have plenty of possible reasons that could be part of his plan, who knows. Upon research, many people did not agree about the highest position that he wanted to run, they respect Manny as a great boxer but not on the political career which is not good for him. A higher position means you have to take responsibility in your country which people don't see that he is suitable if he will remain as a senator which is possible.However, if Manny wants to have a rematch, then we think that the previous sounds like it was intended for the rematch, it means more money to come.
I support him, because Manny is a real boxer and his defeat against Ugas yesterday was beyond Manny's expectation because he felt he could beat him and maybe that's what made him curious.
Manny's fight yesterday in my opinion was good and dominant in attack only because he is not young anymore so his hitting and speed is reduced, and besides his range due to Ugas is tall and big which makes it difficult for Manny to get clean strokes because yesterday he trained for months for Errol Spence Jr. .
this is purely my judgment and I think the rematch will turn things around, and he will prepare training for Ugas.
Manny's fight yesterday in my opinion was good and dominant in attack only because he is not young anymore so his hitting and speed is reduced, and besides his range due to Ugas is tall and big which makes it difficult for Manny to get clean strokes because yesterday he trained for months for Errol Spence Jr. .
this is purely my judgment and I think the rematch will turn things around, and he will prepare training for Ugas.
Regarding Manny's defeat, I think the defeat must be accepted by the supporters, where this time Manny wants to try to show it again and ask for a rematch. Is Ugas really above Manny's abilities or has Manny lost his lethal fist?
Please, if Ugas can agree, then when Ugas wins again, all parties really have to admit that Ugas is already above Manny in terms of his agility.
Supporters have accepted it already, in fact, they are suggesting that Manny should retire as he does not need to prove anything since he achieves the legendary status and is the only 8th division world champion, it's actually him who think he is not yet done and one more time, he wants to dance with Ugas.
and its his life then its basically his rules.We are just here to watch out and support if you are an avid fan.
I cant really make out any complaints about the fight and it was really that worth. Ugas do really deserve to win basing up on his performance or on how he fights. You can see his advantage and make use of it
effectively.
Pacquiao winning this supposed rematch means there should be a 3rd bout. He's aiming to get a seat in the national government, and if he wins that seat, he will be forced to retire from boxing and just focus on his politics. I'm not feeling quite sure about the rematch, though I must agree that he wasn't able to bring his 100% in the fight due to his out-of-sync footwork and movements around the ring. We all saw that, though I don't think there is much for him to prove after that match. Goes to show that even gods bleed and that even the best fighters falter sometimes. Still, 8-division title holder is still 8-division title holder, and it's time to leave the gloves hanging and focus on something else. 2 decades being at the top is, IMO, extremely impressive for a sport like boxing.
The second match can boost his name and can be a good campaign strategy if he won on the rematch, it looks like a script but Manny wants this badly so they are working on this one for sure and Manny wants to retire as a winner and we all want that to see his winning again. He’s a world record holder there’s no doubt about that, Manny just need to do everything and be more active again on the ring for him to win against Ugas, this could be a good match again if ever. Damn, what the hell Manny is thinking. Seems like he is fooling his fans this time. Father time has already caught up with him, very evident on that Ugas fight, he can't avoid those slow punches that Ugas threw. His excuse why he had a hard time moving is he have cramps but Ugas was also not a hundred percent that time so if a rematch would take place then the result would still be the same.
It's seems that he is desperate for the money he is going to generate if he fights again. But then again, even his hardcore fans are suggesting that he should retire for good. He is already an icon in boxing.IMO, Manny is so desperate to add more popularity to his name because of his political ambition. He knows that his political career is on the downhill since the time he took a swipe at the sitting President. He may think that boxing could save his ass but he is so damn wrong.
And there are early survey saying that he also don't have a chance is he decided to run for the presidency. So it's a loss-loss situation for Manny except that he will get another huge pay check but that's it.
I support him, because Manny is a real boxer and his defeat against Ugas yesterday was beyond Manny's expectation because he felt he could beat him and maybe that's what made him curious.
Manny's fight yesterday in my opinion was good and dominant in attack only because he is not young anymore so his hitting and speed is reduced, and besides his range due to Ugas is tall and big which makes it difficult for Manny to get clean strokes because yesterday he trained for months for Errol Spence Jr. .
this is purely my judgment and I think the rematch will turn things around, and he will prepare training for Ugas.
Manny's fight yesterday in my opinion was good and dominant in attack only because he is not young anymore so his hitting and speed is reduced, and besides his range due to Ugas is tall and big which makes it difficult for Manny to get clean strokes because yesterday he trained for months for Errol Spence Jr. .
this is purely my judgment and I think the rematch will turn things around, and he will prepare training for Ugas.
Regarding Manny's defeat, I think the defeat must be accepted by the supporters, where this time Manny wants to try to show it again and ask for a rematch. Is Ugas really above Manny's abilities or has Manny lost his lethal fist?
Please, if Ugas can agree, then when Ugas wins again, all parties really have to admit that Ugas is already above Manny in terms of his agility.
Supporters have accepted it already, in fact, they are suggesting that Manny should retire as he does not need to prove anything since he achieves the legendary status and is the only 8th division world champion, it's actually him who think he is not yet done and one more time, he wants to dance with Ugas.
I support him, because Manny is a real boxer and his defeat against Ugas yesterday was beyond Manny's expectation because he felt he could beat him and maybe that's what made him curious.
Manny's fight yesterday in my opinion was good and dominant in attack only because he is not young anymore so his hitting and speed is reduced, and besides his range due to Ugas is tall and big which makes it difficult for Manny to get clean strokes because yesterday he trained for months for Errol Spence Jr. .
this is purely my judgment and I think the rematch will turn things around, and he will prepare training for Ugas.
Manny's fight yesterday in my opinion was good and dominant in attack only because he is not young anymore so his hitting and speed is reduced, and besides his range due to Ugas is tall and big which makes it difficult for Manny to get clean strokes because yesterday he trained for months for Errol Spence Jr. .
this is purely my judgment and I think the rematch will turn things around, and he will prepare training for Ugas.
Regarding Manny's defeat, I think the defeat must be accepted by the supporters, where this time Manny wants to try to show it again and ask for a rematch. Is Ugas really above Manny's abilities or has Manny lost his lethal fist?
Please, if Ugas can agree, then when Ugas wins again, all parties really have to admit that Ugas is already above Manny in terms of his agility.
Please post some updates and speculation regarding the fight so this thread will be more informative.
Dont really believe much about reasoning on why Pacquiao had lost the recent fight and it is just showing that he's really aging and performance do really been mainly affected.They could really make a rematch but people for sure would expect the same scenario because it wasnt just a adjustment problem or issue because you can really see
on the previous fight that Ugas does really have the advantage when it comes to reach and also with that stamina and does have punching power.
I support him, because Manny is a real boxer and his defeat against Ugas yesterday was beyond Manny's expectation because he felt he could beat him and maybe that's what made him curious.
Manny's fight yesterday in my opinion was good and dominant in attack only because he is not young anymore so his hitting and speed is reduced, and besides his range due to Ugas is tall and big which makes it difficult for Manny to get clean strokes because yesterday he trained for months for Errol Spence Jr. .
this is purely my judgment and I think the rematch will turn things around, and he will prepare training for Ugas.
Manny's fight yesterday in my opinion was good and dominant in attack only because he is not young anymore so his hitting and speed is reduced, and besides his range due to Ugas is tall and big which makes it difficult for Manny to get clean strokes because yesterday he trained for months for Errol Spence Jr. .
this is purely my judgment and I think the rematch will turn things around, and he will prepare training for Ugas.
Pacquiao winning this supposed rematch means there should be a 3rd bout. He's aiming to get a seat in the national government, and if he wins that seat, he will be forced to retire from boxing and just focus on his politics. I'm not feeling quite sure about the rematch, though I must agree that he wasn't able to bring his 100% in the fight due to his out-of-sync footwork and movements around the ring. We all saw that, though I don't think there is much for him to prove after that match. Goes to show that even gods bleed and that even the best fighters falter sometimes. Still, 8-division title holder is still 8-division title holder, and it's time to leave the gloves hanging and focus on something else. 2 decades being at the top is, IMO, extremely impressive for a sport like boxing.
Pacquiao should admit that his strength isn't the same as when he was younger. Things are different now that he's getting older. As for me, it's better for him to retire and just focus on his family as well as his plans to run for the presidency. He isn't getting any younger so I guess he should give chance to new boxers to make their own names in the industry.
Pacquiao's performance on his recent fight with Yordenis Ugas shows that his strength was not like his old kind of strength compared to his known strength inside in the boxing ring. Also the speed of Pacquiao seems decreased and this might could be because of his age. I think it is also a sign for him to retire from his number 1 career not because he could focus on his new career as a politician but because he aged already and need to take care his health.
... I don't think Manny want to lose and get punched only to get money, we all know his reputation and histories is more bigger than just money.
The circumstances have changed since he's still just a boxer. We all know he's a high ranking politician and I also read that he's planning to run for the highest position in his country next year. You have to wonder why he's going to fight again of all times. He needs more money for his political campaign for sure. 
According to scorecard about their latest match the decision was 115-113, 116-112 twice for Ugas, which means Ugas was dominating the fights. Although Manny said he have problem about his leg so can't perform 100%, but I don't think it's really that major change for the next match (if the rematch come true) because every player with whatever situation they faced they always force them to fight with his all limit. I don't think Manny want to lose and get punched only to get money, we all know his reputation and histories is more bigger than just money.
Again if there's a rematch, I bet Ugas still win with Majority or Split decision or even draw.
Again if there's a rematch, I bet Ugas still win with Majority or Split decision or even draw.
He wants to fight because he thinks he was not able to give his 100% in that fight, his legs were tight so he was not able to move well like he usually do in his previous fight, and we all witness that, so maybe let's give him a chance.
C'mon man! As you grow older, your legs will be tight most of the time Cannot give 100% is because he is old, and the percentage will drop along with the increased age. Last fight he gave perhaps 85%, surely next fight will be 80%, and keep decreasing.
Anyway, it's not only about the legs, but his speed is just not there anymore. I doubt this match will be realized. The only good thing about Pacman is that he didn't receive enough damage that lead to injury, he should retire while still healthy.
This is quite reasonable. As one gets older, there must be things that decrease in a person, boxers are the same, the body quickly weakens, vision is not as clear as an eagle, agility is not as fast as a tiger catches a deer, stamina decreases. not fit like when he was younger. Body stability is the most important thing. Age made him unproductive and allowed boxing to be continued by those who were still young at heart as his successors.
Manny has to save his health for next year's election, so he really won't be 100% physically, but mentally there will also be a slight change, it's just that we can't see clearly. The age factor chooses a fairly proven influence.
from me, TOP 2 thumbs up for Ugas so far.
Let him fight and be knocked down hehe. Ugas will be more confident next time they meet and could unload more punches.
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IMO, Manny is so desperate to add more popularity to his name because of his political ambition.
It's either this or that he doesn't want to end his career in a loss. I think he really needs the money and more fame for his politics that's why he's considering a rematch again. I also brought this up in the thread when they first fought. IMO, Manny is so desperate to add more popularity to his name because of his political ambition.
I believe it's not about the upcoming election, he is very popular already and a loss does not help him. He already made money and according to the news, he made half a billion pesos in that fight, so IMO, it's enough to fund his campaign and if he fights again, that's another bonus plus a claim to avenge his loss.
Well, this is just my unpopular opinion but from the recent interview on a local news he's that certain he'd maybe want to run for presidency or vice presidency and that's a huge feat, he even made an agenda on that. Well, I might be wrong though.what I think is that he is trying to make money as much as possible before he finally retires. him winning a match against Ugas wouldn't help him get votes(he might get some but it wouldn't really matter) from people but him fighting on a rematch would make him richer.
He already amassed that much Manny and it can be seen on his luxurious lifestyle right now. I think it's about making a win as well before he retires, it may be about the glory that he can still fight even at this age. That might be he's what trying to prove. 
I lose my bet on their fight and though I believe that Manny may have suffered a leg cramp but I'm not anymore confident on betting on him to win the match. However, I might change my mind if Manny will be listed as the underdog and I find it attractive to put money.
In my mind now, I believe he could win or he could lose, it's 50/50 chances for me, and I also believe that the rematch is better than the first fight.
In my mind now, I believe he could win or he could lose, it's 50/50 chances for me, and I also believe that the rematch is better than the first fight.
You won't be able to win back your previous loss if you will not bet again, lol. Anyway, what matters is what you feel, don't force yourself in betting a fight that you are not 100% confident in, it will haunt you when you lose. Manny Pacquiao is an old man but a legend, and as long as he can accept punishment from his opponent, he would still go for a fight since he makes millions of dollars in every fight, but if he loses in a rematch, there's no reason for him to fight again.
Pacquiao should admit that his strength isn't the same as when he was younger. Things are different now that he's getting older. As for me, it's better for him to retire and just focus on his family as well as his plans to run for the presidency. He isn't getting any younger so I guess he should give chance to new boxers to make their own names in the industry.
I lose my bet on their fight and though I believe that Manny may have suffered a leg cramp but I'm not anymore confident on betting on him to win the match. However, I might change my mind if Manny will be listed as the underdog and I find it attractive to put money.
In my mind now, I believe he could win or he could lose, it's 50/50 chances for me, and I also believe that the rematch is better than the first fight.
In my mind now, I believe he could win or he could lose, it's 50/50 chances for me, and I also believe that the rematch is better than the first fight.
Okay, let's not going to crucify Manny for not retiring in this time of his career. Let's give him another shot at this. After all he himself knew how much is left in his tank.
Let's give another chance for the Pacman to show his 100% from his body conditioning down to familiarizing his opponent.
This as well will justify Ugas win against a less than 100% Pacquiao, as he (Pacquiao) said his legs were tight and cannot move. Well, we can't deny that Manny lost his footwork during the fight.
So, I support Manny and Ugas to have a rematch. They gave us an unexpected good fight anyway. The 2nd time might be much better.
Let's give another chance for the Pacman to show his 100% from his body conditioning down to familiarizing his opponent.
This as well will justify Ugas win against a less than 100% Pacquiao, as he (Pacquiao) said his legs were tight and cannot move. Well, we can't deny that Manny lost his footwork during the fight.
So, I support Manny and Ugas to have a rematch. They gave us an unexpected good fight anyway. The 2nd time might be much better.
Damn, what the hell Manny is thinking. Seems like he is fooling his fans this time. Father time has already caught up with him, very evident on that Ugas fight, he can't avoid those slow punches that Ugas threw. His excuse why he had a hard time moving is he have cramps but Ugas was also not a hundred percent that time so if a rematch would take place then the result would still be the same.
IMO, Manny is so desperate to add more popularity to his name because of his political ambition. He knows that his political career is on the downhill since the time he took a swipe at the sitting President. He may think that boxing could save his ass but he is so damn wrong.
IMO, Manny is so desperate to add more popularity to his name because of his political ambition. He knows that his political career is on the downhill since the time he took a swipe at the sitting President. He may think that boxing could save his ass but he is so damn wrong.
I, love Pacquiao's way of hitting I'm also a Pacquiao fan, maybe almost all the ring matches I don't miss even though I fall asleep while watching.
Pacquiao and Ugas, are far away like the Stars and Moons, why not, Pacquiao's age is currently 42 years old while Ugas is 35 years old, Is this a balanced opponent of course you have to ask one from the Philippines and the other a Cuban boxer even though he's now in America, he's a defector.
From body posture must also be questioned but this seems to be a top opponent to overthrow one of their careers.
Pacquiao and Ugas, are far away like the Stars and Moons, why not, Pacquiao's age is currently 42 years old while Ugas is 35 years old, Is this a balanced opponent of course you have to ask one from the Philippines and the other a Cuban boxer even though he's now in America, he's a defector.
From body posture must also be questioned but this seems to be a top opponent to overthrow one of their careers.
Even though Manny is in our pride I guess its too much fight for him because at the first place he is one of the senators in the Philippines and it's his responsibility to serve the country the Pacquiao era is already done they already got a new champion even Ugas to give his respect to the legendary fighter, but I guess there's a chance because we know that there's a lot of money involve if we are talking about an international fight and it's a legendary boxer.
Well, I think and this is just my opinion, Manny just want to make his name becomes popular just because the election campaign was about to start that timeframe.
what I think is that he is trying to make money as much as possible before he finally retires. him winning a match against Ugas wouldn't help him get votes(he might get some but it wouldn't really matter) from people but him fighting on a rematch would make him richer. Well, I think and this is just my opinion, Manny just want to make his name becomes popular just because the election campaign was about to start that timeframe. I think he should have made his decision already on the retiring process, he just need to realize that his body isn't the same as his prime.
I believe it's not about the upcoming election, he is very popular already and a loss does not help him. He already made money and according to the news, he made half a billion pesos in that fight, so IMO, it's enough to fund his campaign and if he fights again, that's another bonus plus a claim to avenge his loss.
I agree, it doesn't mean a thing about the election though. I mean he is already popular and I don't see him coming back and by chance winning will also increase his chance of winning the presidential race. One reason I can think of is that he wanted to avenge his loss simply as that because he knows he can perform better if not for the leg cramps he he suffer (excuse???). So let's see if this is true that he wanted to have a rematch and Ugas wanted to give it to him.
A rematch is a chance for him to prove how far can he still go, I'm sure if he loses in the rematch and he does not have any excuse, then it will already convince him that he is really to retire in boxing and let the young champions rule the division. The good thing is, we don't need to wait longer, accordingly, he will fight next year in January, so most probably after weeks of rest, he will start training again for the rematch.
This is some actual news man!
I thought Pacquiao's latest fight with Ugas was going to be his last fight (since he slightly informed the media about it) but this is great news to hear. Another match to see the legend is a privilege to everyone. The fact that at age 42, he still has the same guts and mental strength to fight once again in the ring is just outstanding and unparalleled.
The only problem is that, Pacquiao did mention on his post-interview that his legs were starting to stiff. Freddy Roach also mentioned that during the years of a boxer, the first thing that ages are their legs, so I am quite doubtful as to how Manny would approach this.
I thought Pacquiao's latest fight with Ugas was going to be his last fight (since he slightly informed the media about it) but this is great news to hear. Another match to see the legend is a privilege to everyone. The fact that at age 42, he still has the same guts and mental strength to fight once again in the ring is just outstanding and unparalleled.
The only problem is that, Pacquiao did mention on his post-interview that his legs were starting to stiff. Freddy Roach also mentioned that during the years of a boxer, the first thing that ages are their legs, so I am quite doubtful as to how Manny would approach this.
I think the chance to see this is less likely. Pacquiao might have those words as it was what he really feels against Ugas. But to have a rematch is always the hardest part for boxers as there might be another opportunity that might come to both fighters within the period of time as there are talks about the rematch. I think that's usual with Pacquiao for every match, whether he wins or loses, he's up for a rematch as long as he still can. I'm also good if he announces his retirement, he's all good with that.
It seems like Manny Pacquiao is still interested on the rematch.
This news came up and we might see a rematch early next year.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/boxing/boxing-manny-pacquiao-vs-yordenis-ugas-rematch-latest-news-reaction-dates/news-story/a375d046b5266f71734a83fc998ddd06
He wants to fight because he thinks he was not able to give his 100% in that fight, his legs were tight so he was not able to move well like he usually do in his previous fight, and we all witness that, so maybe let's give him a chance.
Please post some updates and speculation regarding the fight so this thread will be more informative.
This news came up and we might see a rematch early next year.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/boxing/boxing-manny-pacquiao-vs-yordenis-ugas-rematch-latest-news-reaction-dates/news-story/a375d046b5266f71734a83fc998ddd06
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Pacquiao, 42, told The Athletic website that he may consider fighting Ugas again in January following his unanimous decision loss to the 35-year-old in Las Vegas on Saturday.
“Yes, I can come back in January. I will see about it,” Pacquiao told the website. “I know I can rematch him if I want. I’ll just need to tell (promoter) Al Haymon. That would be no problem.” Ugas said in the aftermath of his win on Saturday, where he clinically picked off Pacquiao from long range to score a deserved victory, that he would be willing to offer the eight-division world champion a rematch.
“Yes, I can come back in January. I will see about it,” Pacquiao told the website. “I know I can rematch him if I want. I’ll just need to tell (promoter) Al Haymon. That would be no problem.” Ugas said in the aftermath of his win on Saturday, where he clinically picked off Pacquiao from long range to score a deserved victory, that he would be willing to offer the eight-division world champion a rematch.
He wants to fight because he thinks he was not able to give his 100% in that fight, his legs were tight so he was not able to move well like he usually do in his previous fight, and we all witness that, so maybe let's give him a chance.
Please post some updates and speculation regarding the fight so this thread will be more informative.
If the the rematch will come Pacquiao give his 100% best against ugas. But we can't predict that manny will win as We observed manny movement speed was changed.
Well, I think and this is just my opinion, Manny just want to make his name becomes popular just because the election campaign was about to start that timeframe. I think he should have made his decision already on the retiring process, he just need to realize that his body isn't the same as his prime.
I believe it's not about the upcoming election, he is very popular already and a loss does not help him. He already made money and according to the news, he made half a billion pesos in that fight, so IMO, it's enough to fund his campaign and if he fights again, that's another bonus plus a claim to avenge his loss.
I agree, it doesn't mean a thing about the election though. I mean he is already popular and I don't see him coming back and by chance winning will also increase his chance of winning the presidential race. One reason I can think of is that he wanted to avenge his loss simply as that because he knows he can perform better if not for the leg cramps he he suffer (excuse???). So let's see if this is true that he wanted to have a rematch and Ugas wanted to give it to him.
Well, I think and this is just my opinion, Manny just want to make his name becomes popular just because the election campaign was about to start that timeframe. I think he should have made his decision already on the retiring process, he just need to realize that his body isn't the same as his prime.
I believe it's not about the upcoming election, he is very popular already and a loss does not help him. He already made money and according to the news, he made half a billion pesos in that fight, so IMO, it's enough to fund his campaign and if he fights again, that's another bonus plus a claim to avenge his loss.
Well, I think and this is just my opinion, Manny just want to make his name becomes popular just because the election campaign was about to start that timeframe. I think he should have made his decision already on the retiring process, he just need to realize that his body isn't the same as his prime.
I'm one of those who says that Manny should retire, no need for him to call for a rematch and then what?
Of course he has the final decision here, and there will be huge money but at what expense? even his long term trainer is afraid of Pacquiao going for another fight and he is short of saying that his prize pupil should retire but this point. His legs is giving up, a tell tail sign of old age.
Of course he has the final decision here, and there will be huge money but at what expense? even his long term trainer is afraid of Pacquiao going for another fight and he is short of saying that his prize pupil should retire but this point. His legs is giving up, a tell tail sign of old age.
after the defeat some time ago, manny pacquaio said if he will focus on his political career in the philippines, but that doesn't mean he doesn't consider the possibility of a rematch between the two of them, I think right now pacquaio just needs is rest and also train to maintain stamina and also his physical condition, so that if a rematch occurs, of course, pacquaio will be able to face the ugas with a total fight and not like yesterday fight, which it seems that pacquaio has some problems with his leg.
maybe he feel that he can still give one more shot in boxing. as mentioned in this article , he called Ugas as "one of the easiest opponents", so he wants to prove maybe that he still got it. at least Ugas is really a humble man, youve never heard him say bad words towards Pacquiao, he does respect him.
Saying that Ugas is one of the easiest opponents, maybe it's really true that he is not feeling 100% in the fight and his legs have some problem that affects his mobility in the fight, and yes, of course, one more shot for him, he deserves that as he is the only 8th division world champion.
People were saying that Manny should retire because of his loss against Ugas, but he still insist to fight and that's good for boxing. As a champion, I have high respect for Ugas because he gives the legend a chance to fight him again, he is humble in a victory that's why he was blessed.
I'm afraid if Manny would win this, there might be a 3rd fight to end this rivalry.
I'm afraid if Manny would win this, there might be a 3rd fight to end this rivalry.
Manny is already 42, you can't blame if people thinks retirement should be in his decision soon because it seems like his body can't handle the training anymore or it's just a coincidence. But the rematch that would happen is gonna be amazing if Manny Pacquiao could really give his 100% fighting skills to defeat Ugas.
If Manny could win the rematch, I doubt that there's gonna be a 3rd match, in my opinion, because if Manny wins, that means they just settled the score. If there's gonna be another match, it'll probably take some time before it's gonna happen again.
maybe he feel that he can still give one more shot in boxing. as mentioned in this article , he called Ugas as "one of the easiest opponents", so he wants to prove maybe that he still got it. at least Ugas is really a humble man, youve never heard him say bad words towards Pacquiao, he does respect him.
after reading the article I feel like Pacquiao should realize that his body is not the same as it was before. I know I can't really tell what his body is still capable of, but knowing that he felt tightness on his muscles from rounds 2 to 12, shows that his body isn't responding like it used to. that being said, I am glad Ugas is open to a rematch in respect of Pacquiao's achievement. I know, I am heavily contradicting myself but I still want to see Pacquiao fight while at the same time thinking that he should retire.
Please post some updates and speculation regarding the fight so this thread will be more informative.
I think this is the most recent update regarding the talks about their rematch. 
He wants to fight because he thinks he was not able to give his 100% in that fight, his legs were tight so he was not able to move well like he usually do in his previous fight, and we all witness that, so maybe let's give him a chance.
C'mon man! As you grow older, your legs will be tight most of the time Cannot give 100% is because he is old, and the percentage will drop along with the increased age. Last fight he gave perhaps 85%, surely next fight will be 80%, and keep decreasing.
Anyway, it's not only about the legs, but his speed is just not there anymore. I doubt this match will be realized. The only good thing about Pacman is that he didn't receive enough damage that lead to injury, he should retire while still healthy.
People were saying that Manny should retire because of his loss against Ugas, but he still insist to fight and that's good for boxing. As a champion, I have high respect for Ugas because he gives the legend a chance to fight him again, he is humble in a victory that's why he was blessed.
I'm afraid if Manny would win this, there might be a 3rd fight to end this rivalry.
I'm afraid if Manny would win this, there might be a 3rd fight to end this rivalry.
It seems like Manny Pacquiao is still interested on the rematch.
This news came up and we might see a rematch early next year.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/boxing/boxing-manny-pacquiao-vs-yordenis-ugas-rematch-latest-news-reaction-dates/news-story/a375d046b5266f71734a83fc998ddd06
He wants to fight because he thinks he was not able to give his 100% in that fight, his legs were tight so he was not able to move well like he usually do in his previous fight, and we all witness that, so maybe let's give him a chance.
Please post some updates and speculation regarding the fight so this thread will be more informative.
This news came up and we might see a rematch early next year.
https://www.foxsports.com.au/boxing/boxing-manny-pacquiao-vs-yordenis-ugas-rematch-latest-news-reaction-dates/news-story/a375d046b5266f71734a83fc998ddd06
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Pacquiao, 42, told The Athletic website that he may consider fighting Ugas again in January following his unanimous decision loss to the 35-year-old in Las Vegas on Saturday.
“Yes, I can come back in January. I will see about it,” Pacquiao told the website. “I know I can rematch him if I want. I’ll just need to tell (promoter) Al Haymon. That would be no problem.” Ugas said in the aftermath of his win on Saturday, where he clinically picked off Pacquiao from long range to score a deserved victory, that he would be willing to offer the eight-division world champion a rematch.
“Yes, I can come back in January. I will see about it,” Pacquiao told the website. “I know I can rematch him if I want. I’ll just need to tell (promoter) Al Haymon. That would be no problem.” Ugas said in the aftermath of his win on Saturday, where he clinically picked off Pacquiao from long range to score a deserved victory, that he would be willing to offer the eight-division world champion a rematch.
He wants to fight because he thinks he was not able to give his 100% in that fight, his legs were tight so he was not able to move well like he usually do in his previous fight, and we all witness that, so maybe let's give him a chance.
Please post some updates and speculation regarding the fight so this thread will be more informative.
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