Pangkalahatang-Ideya sa mga Browser. Alin ang dapat na gamitin?

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Quote from: Script3d on December 30, 2019, 01:09:00 PM

Quote from: Mometaskers on December 29, 2019, 06:33:06 AM

I've just switched to using Brave yesterday and I was bummed a bit when I found out that KYC is needed to encash BAT. Plus I'm not being given ads to watch to earn the BAT even after I've enabled Rewards. Is it not available for the country? Or I need to have an Uphold account first before I can start seeing them?

Not really going to stop me from using it though. It's nice that I don't get ads when playing Youtube as radio in the background. And it seems a bit faster when loading some sites compared to Chrome.

mabilis dahil ang brave browser ay fork ng chrome at dahil din sa built in adblocker, no need to load unnecessary scripts.

Quote from: Mometaskers on December 29, 2019, 06:33:06 AM

Quote from: KawBet on December 28, 2019, 11:14:16 PM

I'm a developer/ security advisor. okay naman ang chrome just be smart and don't install "security" extensions.

most of it are fraud/hack your sessions

What are your opinions on Poper Blocker, uBlocker and Volume Master? So far those are the only ones I have installed, aside from HP Smart Print which came with my printer installer.

sa tingin ko magiging okay ka lang dahil hindi naman yan "security" extensions ang ininstall mo, so far trusted naman ang ublock origin, sa mga narinig ko, at kung may mga security issues im sure ang mga tao ay e rereport yan.

OK naman ang Brave kasi walang ads (usually, may nakakalusot pa rin minsan). Parang wala nga lang atang extensions. Nakamax kasi yung volume ko tapos hinihinaan ko na lang ang media. Gumagamit ako ng timer ng Google/Duckduckgogo (depende sa browser) kaya medyo nakakagulat or masakit sa tenga yung alarm. Grin

Anyway, pagkakaintindi ko kapag Brave ang gamit, hindi makikita ng ISP yung mga searches natin, right?

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Quote from: Mometaskers on December 29, 2019, 06:33:06 AM

I've just switched to using Brave yesterday and I was bummed a bit when I found out that KYC is needed to encash BAT. Plus I'm not being given ads to watch to earn the BAT even after I've enabled Rewards. Is it not available for the country? Or I need to have an Uphold account first before I can start seeing them?

Not really going to stop me from using it though. It's nice that I don't get ads when playing Youtube as radio in the background. And it seems a bit faster when loading some sites compared to Chrome.

mabilis dahil ang brave browser ay fork ng chrome at dahil din sa built in adblocker, no need to load unnecessary scripts.

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Quote from: KawBet on December 28, 2019, 11:14:16 PM

I'm a developer/ security advisor. okay naman ang chrome just be smart and don't install "security" extensions.

most of it are fraud/hack your sessions

What are your opinions on Poper Blocker, uBlocker and Volume Master? So far those are the only ones I have installed, aside from HP Smart Print which came with my printer installer.

sa tingin ko magiging okay ka lang dahil hindi naman yan "security" extensions ang ininstall mo, so far trusted naman ang ublock origin, sa mga narinig ko, at kung may mga security issues im sure ang mga tao ay e rereport yan.

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Quote from: KawBet on December 28, 2019, 04:00:19 AM

chrome ang pinaka safe, wag kalang mag install ng extensions, most secure "kuno" extensions are scam.

Sa tingin ko, lahat naman ng nanggit ng OP ay safe since sila ay registered at legal. Nagkakatalo lamang sila sa paghahandle ng data ng kanilang kliyente which is big deal sa pagsasaalang-alang ng dapat na pilling browser. I'm bot a fan of other browser, gaya mo cheome din ang preferrence ko pero narealized ko din na may point ang OP kaya naman hindi masamang mag-isip isip sa pagpili ng mga browser.

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Quote from: rosezionjohn on December 29, 2019, 03:31:27 PM

Quote from: Mometaskers on December 29, 2019, 06:33:06 AM

I've just switched to using Brave yesterday and I was bummed a bit when I found out that KYC is needed to encash BAT. Plus I'm not being given ads to watch to earn the BAT even after I've enabled Rewards. Is it not available for the country? Or I need to have an Uphold account first before I can start seeing them?

You can follow the discussion here or you can skip the other pages and go straight here for the added countries.

I already found somewhere that the country was already added but thanks for pointing to thread anyway. I didn't knew it have a thread in local.

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Quote from: Mometaskers on December 29, 2019, 06:33:06 AM

I've just switched to using Brave yesterday and I was bummed a bit when I found out that KYC is needed to encash BAT. Plus I'm not being given ads to watch to earn the BAT even after I've enabled Rewards. Is it not available for the country? Or I need to have an Uphold account first before I can start seeing them?

You can follow the discussion here or you can skip the other pages and go straight here for the added countries.

Mometaskers

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I've just switched to using Brave yesterday and I was bummed a bit when I found out that KYC is needed to encash BAT. Plus I'm not being given ads to watch to earn the BAT even after I've enabled Rewards. Is it not available for the country? Or I need to have an Uphold account first before I can start seeing them?

Not really going to stop me from using it though. It's nice that I don't get ads when playing Youtube as radio in the background. And it seems a bit faster when loading some sites compared to Chrome.

Quote from: KawBet on December 28, 2019, 11:14:16 PM

I'm a developer/ security advisor. okay naman ang chrome just be smart and don't install "security" extensions.

most of it are fraud/hack your sessions

What are your opinions on Poper Blocker, uBlocker and Volume Master? So far those are the only ones I have installed, aside from HP Smart Print which came with my printer installer.

Quote from: dothebeats on December 29, 2019, 12:40:04 AM

Brave is a good browser kung user ka lang talaga at wala kang pakielam sa rewards. Once na ma-tempt kang kunin ang rewards sa program nila, dun ay kinakailangan mo nang magsend ng KYC documents para na rin siguro hindi madaya ang system. Alam kong napaka-ironic na ang isang privacy browser ay gagamit/hihingi ng KYC mo but it is what it is. Firefox remains to be the top dog for me as a privacy browser dahil kaunting tweaking lang naman ang kailangan mo para masigurong wala nang "eye spy" sayong ginagawa sa internet. Tor? Not so much. Kung highly-techie ang gagamit e masasabi nating okay ang Tor, pero kung hindi ito properly set-up, maaari lang itong mag-cause ng mas maraming problema sa user.

Hindi ba may Tor din from Brave? OK ba yun or better na install separately yung Tor? Mostly Chrome user here.

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I uses Chrome madalas, Safari kapag gamit ang Ipad and Brave minsan kapag naalala ko yung rewards pero mostly is Chrome talaga ang gamit ko. Haven't tried other listed by OP pero noong panahong mahilig ako magtry ng mga applications same with UI tricks for Internet Opera Mini and UC browsers are used before it's just I don't open crypto related apps kahit sa Brave Browser. Ingat lang lagi sa pag bisita ng ng mga website.

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Brave is a good browser kung user ka lang talaga at wala kang pakielam sa rewards. Once na ma-tempt kang kunin ang rewards sa program nila, dun ay kinakailangan mo nang magsend ng KYC documents para na rin siguro hindi madaya ang system. Alam kong napaka-ironic na ang isang privacy browser ay gagamit/hihingi ng KYC mo but it is what it is. Firefox remains to be the top dog for me as a privacy browser dahil kaunting tweaking lang naman ang kailangan mo para masigurong wala nang "eye spy" sayong ginagawa sa internet. Tor? Not so much. Kung highly-techie ang gagamit e masasabi nating okay ang Tor, pero kung hindi ito properly set-up, maaari lang itong mag-cause ng mas maraming problema sa user.

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Quote from: Bttzed03 on December 26, 2019, 06:11:22 AM

I'm using Firefox and Brave.

Naintindihan ko kung bakit nagbago ang opinyon ni OP (bitmover) tungkol sa paggamit ng brave browser. As a long time user din, I have no issues with the browser dahil andun pa din naman yung data privacy mo. You are not forced to use the brave wallet kung ayaw mo at kung wala ka naman pakialam sa brave rewards program nila, hindi mo kailangan alalahanin ang KYC.

+2 ako dito,wala namang pilitan or hindi naman obligatory ang pag present ng KYC ito lamang ay para sa kasiguruhan na hindi masasamantala ang kanilang reward system.kasi lumalabas na bonus lang naman nila yan sa mga gagamit ng kanilang browser but since na ggamitin natin sa sariling kapakinabangan ang kanilang site eh hindi na natin kailangan pa problemahin ang rewards.

Quote from: Insanerman on December 26, 2019, 08:31:27 PM

I did not know na naka subsribe pala ako sa mailing list ng Brave Browser kaya till now I am receiving their email with regards to their bounty tokens. I always ignore that bounty kasi I don't know if brave browser is a legit and safe search engine to use.

So far active pa pala ang campaign nila. BAT (Basic Attention Token) is approximately at ₱8.00 in todays market. Okay din yan maging bonus while you are browsing but the downside is the KYC which is very Ironic since brave browser focuses on the anonymous side.

There is also a good browser called Vivaldi. I haven't tried it pero maganda daw U.I.

yan din ang issue sa itaas mate,dahil sa bounty nila kaya nag required ng KYC but me as user now?i never send any personal details instead download ko lang ang apps para magamit ko and so far nananatili naman ang privacy ko regarding sa mga unwanted emails etc.

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I'm a developer/ security advisor. okay naman ang chrome just be smart and don't install "security" extensions.

most of it are fraud/hack your sessions

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Quote from: KawBet on December 28, 2019, 04:00:19 AM

chrome ang pinaka safe, wag kalang mag install ng extensions, most secure "kuno" extensions are scam.

Paanong pinaka-safe? Nabasa mo ba kung gaano kalakas ang chrome mag-mina ng mga data mo tapos ginagamit yun para pagkakitaan?

Yung topic naman din ay tungkol sa privacy at hindi sa "safety" (kung ano man ang ibig mong sabihin dyan)

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chrome ang pinaka safe, wag kalang mag install ng extensions, most secure "kuno" extensions are scam.

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Quote from: Insanerman on December 26, 2019, 08:31:27 PM

There is also a good browser called Vivaldi. I haven't tried it pero maganda daw U.I.

Di naman ganun kagandahan yung UI. Parang opera nga yung layout ng UI nya eh. Saka same lang naman mga browsers except lang siguro sa TOR browser. Yun kase pwede kang maging anonymous. Kaya ginagamit yun sa pagdidive sa deep web. Mukhang maganda din tong Brave browser. Pwede kang kumita just by using their browser. The problem is, what if supervise nila actions mo?

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Nag switch na ako sa Brave browser para kumita ng Bat kahit papaano.
Pero meron parin akong firefox at google chrome.
Pero pansin ko rin mas ginagamit ko na ngayun si Brave tapos na ka dark mode ako.

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Quote from: Insanerman on December 26, 2019, 08:31:27 PM

There is also a good browser called Vivaldi. I haven't tried it pero maganda daw U.I.

Isa sa nagustuhan ko sa Vivaldi

Pwede ka mamili ng search engine from largest but not private (google) to smaller but more privacy centric like duckduckgo.

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I did not know na naka subsribe pala ako sa mailing list ng Brave Browser kaya till now I am receiving their email with regards to their bounty tokens. I always ignore that bounty kasi I don't know if brave browser is a legit and safe search engine to use.

So far active pa pala ang campaign nila. BAT (Basic Attention Token) is approximately at ₱8.00 in todays market. Okay din yan maging bonus while you are browsing but the downside is the KYC which is very Ironic since brave browser focuses on the anonymous side.

There is also a good browser called Vivaldi. I haven't tried it pero maganda daw U.I.

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Gumagamit ako ng Brave at hindi naman ako hinihingian ng KYC. Para lang siguro yan related kapag gusto mong kumita ng Bat at magpublish sa kanila.
Naka off lang yung sa earning ng Bat ko kaya parang normal browsing lang ang gamit so walang problema sa akin.

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Quote from: Kurokonobasuke on December 26, 2019, 07:42:11 AM

Quote from: meldrio1 on December 26, 2019, 07:20:04 AM

Sa brave browser depende siguro sa gumagamit, kung gusto niya kumita ng BAT dapat mag submit na siya ng KYC kung yan man talaga ang bagong patakaran sa Brave Browser. Ok lang naman hindi ka mag submit ng KYC pero hindi kana makaka earn ng BAT.

Sang-ayon ako sa iyo kabayan. Kaso nga lang, naaalala ko na kaya dumami ang users nila ay dahil diyan sa rewards na inoffer nila tapos biglang nagkaroon ng KYC na patakaran para lang maka-withdraw which is mali kasi yung iba umasa na makakapag-earn sila kahit na hindi mag-submit tapos biglang ganun. Anyway, good browser pa din ang Brave regardless if sasali ka man sa reward program nila.

Expect KYC to known/popular platforms.

I used brave browser because of its awesome feature na kung saan minimal lang na memory ang kinakain niya sa PC, which is true and tested ko na. Karamihan pala ng user ng brave ay dahil sa bounty na meron sa browser nila. Pero kahit na di ako nakinabang sa rewards na yan, I can truly say na sobrang ganda ng brave, kahit sa interface niya ay sobrang simple lang.

I think mas maeenjoy pa yung paggamit ng browser na brave kung alam mo yung technicalities na meron ito, kaysa gumamit ng brave because of its rewards. Sa tingin ko di rin nila kasalanan kung magrerelease sila ng KYC, isa sa mga office nila ay sa San Francisco, CA, US so automatic yon may KYC talaga.

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Quote from: meldrio1 on December 26, 2019, 07:20:04 AM

Sa brave browser depende siguro sa gumagamit, kung gusto niya kumita ng BAT dapat mag submit na siya ng KYC kung yan man talaga ang bagong patakaran sa Brave Browser. Ok lang naman hindi ka mag submit ng KYC pero hindi kana makaka earn ng BAT.

Sa aking pagkakaalam kailangan talaga ng KYC sa brave browser para mawithdraw ang Bat tokens na ating kinikita, Pero ang KYC ay isinasagawa sa Uphold Account kung saan napupunta ang ating mga earnings kaya hindi na ako tumuloy sa pag download ng brave browser dahil sa kyc.

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Im good with chrome. firefox and brave pero mas kumportable akong gamitin ang google chrome. Sinbukan ko rin ang ibang mga hindi gaanong kilalang browser pero kadalasan naman ay mula sa core program ng mga kilalang browser at medyo mahirap gamitin dahil sa incompatibility sa ibang mga plug-ins.

Quote from: Sadlife on December 26, 2019, 07:44:41 AM

Woah ngayon kulang nalaman to akala ko talaga na yung google is able lang na makakakuha ng data ng user if naka login gmail account mo sa browser pero pwedi palang hindi.
Kaya nakakagulat at in the same time nakakatakot ganito na pala ka advance data mining ng google. Siguro panahon na para mag site sa ibang browser salamat sa info boss.

Lahat naman ng mga browser may data mining. Hindi lang natin alam dahil walang nagsasabi.

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Woah ngayon kulang nalaman to akala ko talaga na yung google is able lang na makakakuha ng data ng user if naka login gmail account mo sa browser pero pwedi palang hindi.
Kaya nakakagulat at in the same time nakakatakot ganito na pala ka advance data mining ng google. Siguro panahon na para mag switch sa ibang browser salamat sa info boss.

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Quote from: meldrio1 on December 26, 2019, 07:20:04 AM

Sa brave browser depende siguro sa gumagamit, kung gusto niya kumita ng BAT dapat mag submit na siya ng KYC kung yan man talaga ang bagong patakaran sa Brave Browser. Ok lang naman hindi ka mag submit ng KYC pero hindi kana makaka earn ng BAT.

Sang-ayon ako sa iyo kabayan. Kaso nga lang, naaalala ko na kaya dumami ang users nila ay dahil diyan sa rewards na inoffer nila tapos biglang nagkaroon ng KYC na patakaran para lang maka-withdraw which is mali kasi yung iba umasa na makakapag-earn sila kahit na hindi mag-submit tapos biglang ganun. Anyway, good browser pa din ang Brave regardless if sasali ka man sa reward program nila.

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Sa brave browser depende siguro sa gumagamit, kung gusto niya kumita ng BAT dapat mag submit na siya ng KYC kung yan man talaga ang bagong patakaran sa Brave Browser. Ok lang naman hindi ka mag submit ng KYC pero hindi kana makaka earn ng BAT.

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Quote from: Script3d on December 26, 2019, 05:13:40 AM

ang kyc para sa brave ay para lang sa mga website owners na gusto e receive ang kanilang payouts, sa mga regular user ay hindi ito problema,
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Not just website owners but anyone who would use the the Brave wallet AND withdraw BAT. Those who would deposit funds beyond $600 are also required to comply.

I dont think marami ang gagamit sa brave wallet dahil sa KYC, ok lang sana kung sa publisher lang pero sa mga users parang unreasonable hindi naman exchange, a bit ironic dahil may privacy stance sila.

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I'm using Firefox and Brave.

Naintindihan ko kung bakit nagbago ang opinyon ni OP (bitmover) tungkol sa paggamit ng brave browser. As a long time user din, I have no issues with the browser dahil andun pa din naman yung data privacy mo. You are not forced to use the brave wallet kung ayaw mo at kung wala ka naman pakialam sa brave rewards program nila, hindi mo kailangan alalahanin ang KYC.

Tanong ko kay @criza, what's your personal opinyon on brave the browser? Ginagamit mo ba?

Quote from: Script3d on December 26, 2019, 05:13:40 AM

ang kyc para sa brave ay para lang sa mga website owners na gusto e receive ang kanilang payouts, sa mga regular user ay hindi ito problema,
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Not just website owners but anyone who would use the the Brave wallet AND withdraw BAT. Those who would deposit funds beyond $600 are also required to comply.

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Quote from: Script3d on December 26, 2019, 05:13:40 AM

ang kyc para sa brave ay para lang sa mga website owners na gusto e receive ang kanilang payouts, sa mga regular user ay hindi ito problema, nilagyan lang nila ng kyc para hindi ma daya ang systema. e correct lang kung nag ka mali ako.

https://support.brave.com/hc/en-us/articles/360032158891-What-is-KYC-

Sa tingin ko ay tama naman ang iyong pagkaka-intindi. Kaya nga lang kung ikaw ay isang website owner, problema sa iyo iyan lalo na kung issue sa you ang privacy at gusto mong manatiling anonymous. Sa kabilang banda since regular user ang tintukoy sa topic na ito, hindi na rin masama na gumamit ng Brave browser since ginagamit ko ito personally at wala naman akong isyu so far.

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ang kyc para sa brave ay para lang sa mga website owners na gusto e receive ang kanilang payouts, sa mga regular user ay hindi ito problema, nilagyan lang nila ng kyc para hindi ma daya ang systema. e correct lang kung nag ka mali ako.

https://support.brave.com/hc/en-us/articles/360032158891-What-is-KYC-

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ORIHINAL NA POST: Overview on browsers. Which one should we use? Support free web while browsing ni bitmover

Alam kong karamihan sa mga tao dito ay gumagamit ng Google Chrome. Ito ay isang mabilis na browser at mayroong magarbong bagay na ginagawa ng Google at gusto ng mga tao.
Ngunit ito ay kakila-kilabot para sa iyong privacy, dahil kinokolekta ng Google ang lahat ng iyong data tungkol sa lahat ng iyong ginagawa habang ginagamit ang kanilang mga serbisyo (at walang kinaiba ang Chrome).

Nakita ko ito ang website na ito at nagulat ako sa mga resulta ng pananaliksik na ito

Quote from: bitmover on March 28, 2018, 07:05:46 AM

How to disable WebRTC in Firefox?
In short: Set "media.peerconnection.enabled" to "false" in "about:config".

Madali lang di ba?

Ito ang browser na ginagamit ko karamihan, kasama ang config na iyon, kapag wala ako sa trabaho.

2. Tor Browser
Ang Tor Browser ay isa pang rekomendasyon mula sa website na iyon, gayunpaman nakatuon ito sa eksperto. Hindi ito akma sa mga karaniwang pangangailangan ng mga gumagamit.

3. Brave Browser

Ang Brave Browser ay isa ring mahusay na pagpipilian para sa mga bagong mga gumagamit. Gayunpaman sa aking karanasan ito ay maraming bug (maraming mga problema ang nagaganap kapag naglo-load ng mga webpage) at ang kakulangan ng privacy at tanyag na addons ay nagdudulot sa browser na ito na maging huli sa aking pagpipilian. Ang Firefox ay mayroon ding isang mas malaking development team, pag-aayos ng mga bug at pag-update nang mas mabilis kaysa sa Brave.

Ininstall ko ito sa aking computer at ginagamit ko ito minsan, dahil nais kong suportahan ang proyektong ito. Kailangan natin ng mga kakumpitensya sa ekosistema na ito, dahil ang Edge at Chrome ay hindi magandang pagpilian, at halos minomonopolyo ito ng Chrome.

Ngayon ay nangangailangan ng KYC. Ang privacy browser ay nangangailangan ng KYC. Kahihiyan iyan.
https://community.brave.com/t/uphold-kyc-know-your-customer-verification-is-now-required-in-order-to-receive-bat-publisher-payouts/42035/8

Edit:

Mga Mobile Browser

1. Firefox Focus
Awtomatikong hinaharangan ng Firefox ang mga ad at tinanggal ang lahat ng cookies at history tuwing sarado ito. Medyo masakit gamitin minsan, ngunit ito ay isang mahusay na pagpipilian sa privacy.

2. InBrowser
Laging nasa incognito mode at ang lahat ng data ay nalinis kapag ito ay sarado, tulad ng Firefox Focus.

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