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As far as the top is concerned, I think there's no question that it will be the United States. I have no doubt about it. So far in this current Olympics, the US is leading with 71 medals all in all. The second, China, is trailing behind with only 45. That's nearly half of what the US got.

The US is still the leading nation in terms of sports. The Olympics, being the largest sporting event in the world, has sufficiently proven that. The US will certainly be the number 1 this time around, just as it was the number 1 in Tokyo in 2020, in Rio in 2016, in London in 2012, and so on.

Typically, countries like the United States, China, and Russia (competing as Russian Olympic Committee in recent years due to doping sanctions) tend to be among the top medal winners at Summer Olympics. Other nations that often perform well include Great Britain, Japan, Australia, and Germany. Which countries you think will have the most medals at the Paris Olympics?

I don't know whether it was due to complaints from other sports that football will overshadow them. Primary reason, I guess was due to the concerns from European clubs, regarding the availability of their top players. But I like this setup. It still leaves the loophole of having 3 senior players in the team. So for example, it is possible to have Kylian Mbappé, Paul Pogba and Karim Benzema in the squad along with the younger players. My only issue is with different set of rules for both men's and women's competitions. Should have the same rules applicable for both the competitions.

yep, i think that is the most appropriate reason why the age limit is set at the Olympics because it will reduce the value ^(spirit) of the world cup if the eleven players are free age.  

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this seems to be good news for Olympic female athletes....

[1] https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2023/mar/23/world-athletics-council-excludes-transgender-women-from-female-events

In line with the news above, i am curious about what action the Minister of Sport France will take, so far she ^{(i don't understand what pronouns are lol)} has supported LGBT with all her might and her efforts have even intervened in France's national team players who are not in line with her wishes....

[1] https://twitter.com/lnstantFoot/status/1657862434156077056

According to wiki, Men's teams are restricted to under-23 players (born on or after 1 January 2001) with a maximum of three overage players allowed, while there are no age restrictions on women's teams. So yes, it is going to be U-23 +3 senior teams only

The reasons why Olympic football has age restriction is simple - if they would allow everyone to participate, it will lower the value of FIFA World Cup, and football would steal all attention from other sports. Maybe one of the reasons could be players peak form, just maybe. And I doubt that this is due to play-offs in other tournaments.

Someone please correct me in case I am wrong. Football in summer Olympics is not a U-23 competition. The rule states that players need to be under 23 years of age, but exemption can be given to two players in the XI. Kylian Mbappé will be 25 years old when the next edition of the Olympics get going in Paris, but he can still represent France as a result of this loophole. But it is always good to see players prioritizing winning an Olympic medal for their country, over the club commitments. Still I am not sure whether those orcs at Paris Saint-Germain will be happy about his decision.

based on an interview with journalists, mbappe stated his readiness to join the France U-23 national team at the 2024 Olympics later (he is already 24 years old), but he is still waiting for approval from various parties (because he said his schedule was very tight on that date), as the host, France football is expected to be able to win a gold medal

At the last Tokyo Olympics 2020, Brazil won a gold medal and this time France has big ambitions at their home

many prospective Olympic spectators think ticket prices are quite expensive.

[1] https://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1134427/paris-2024-ticket-price-survey
[2] https://selangorjournal.my/2023/03/over-80-pct-of-french-say-tickets-for-paris-2024-olympics-too-expensive-survey/

but the committee doesn't care about that;

me too, can't wait to be able to bet.  football, volleyball is my favorite sports.

I saw some news about the tickets



Source: https://www.francsjeux.com/2023/03/10/paris-2024-ticketing-is-a-new-record-in-france/90750

The first phase of ticket sales has already been completed and have broken records. It seems that they are very excited about the Olympics in Paris.
UK, USA, Germany and Netherlands are the countries that have bought the most tickets besides France.
The sports that have sold the most tickets so far are soccer, athletics, rugby, basketball and volleyball.

Very good to see that they are selling well, and will probably sell out all tickets, because France is a well-located country, close to many other countries in Europe, and with good infrastructure.

Is anyone here thinking of attending any of the events?
I can't wait for the Olympics to start so I can place my bets, I will bet on soccer, skateboarding and surfing.

I've got your point. But for me, it does not really matter much which country fighter represent, if he gives his best, if he tried to show maximum of his skills. I value fair competition more than the spirit of the game. I prefer to see in finals best vs best, instead of best vs "the one who managed to get to finals since others were banned/skipped/etc". I think that is the spirit of Olympic games, two find out who is best in the world, but now who is best among allowed to compete. 

What this has to do with the change of nationalities? Usain Bolt was born in Jamaica and he has always remained as a Jamaican citizen. On the other hand, Justin Gatlin was born in Brooklyn, New York and he has always represented the United States. If these two are the best, then they will compete against each other. That said, if Usain Bolt decides to take up the citizenship of Qatar and decides to represent the Qatari team in the next Olympics, then for me it will kill the spirit of the game. It will be a loss for Jamaica and gain for Qatar.

Ok, I will paraphrase. Lets take 100 meter dash as an example. What would you better watch ? A race between Justin Gatlin (on of biggest Usain Bolt rivals) and Usain Bolt (that performs under Canadian flag) for gold medal, or a race between Justin Gatlin and some sprinter from Finland (sorry Finland, that is just an example, I have never seen you on 100m dash finals) ? Will that kill the spirit of the game?

I am not talking about whole delegation all of a sudden changes their nationalities, that will be just stupid, but individuals. When I watch sport, I like to watch sports, but not to get involved into politics. I have plenty of it around. Sport is already harmed enough with racisms, doping, cheating. That is more than enough to turn sport into crap.

we have to ask ourselves why even today we still see countries in extreme poverty to the point where they pay well their country's athletes when we can all easily go to google and do research on how much money the leaders of the governments of poor countries have and how much money they have the relatives of the leaders of poor countries, we will see clearly that they are very rich people who even manage to compete with many rich people in rich countries, something simply shocking

in my opinion athletes have to think about their future too, if some country offers them good living conditions if they change nationality then they should do that. in poor countries governments 90% of the money that athletes earn in international competitions, I don't see how this cannot be considered slavery, that's why many athletes prefer to change nationality, not to mention that there is a lot of corruption in poor countries, it arrives at level at which the athlete has to pay to be called to represent the country in international competition

Competing against the best may benefit that particular individual. But it will kill the spirit of the games, if the athletes change nationality very frequently, and that too for materialistic benefits. I partially agree with you on football. A number of countries, such as Qatar and United Arab Emirates rely heavily on naturalized players. But I wouldn't say that about the United States. Although most of the players are of migrant origin, they are born and brought up in the US itself. Maybe FIFA should introduce maximum number of naturalized players in the XI, such as 2 or 3. But introducing threshold for players of migrant origin (who are born in that country itself) would be discriminatory.

On one hand I agree that it kills the spirit, but on the other, it allows to compete against best. The medal would worth zero, if for example most of the countries are banned, and you get a gold medal in ice hockey playing against Arab and African countries. Even though gold medal is always a gold medal.

Other example - dont remember the name, but it was woman that participated for 3 countries and won gold medals in gymnastics. First for Soviet Union, second for Uzbekistan, third for Germany (she was force to moved there to get proper medicine for her child).

I find it ok if a person represents other country. It is about sport after all, not about the flag. Take a look on football teams. All of them are multinational. Take biggest Olympic teams (like USA for example) and dig into athletes roots. A lot of athletes ancestors are foreigners.

It's been a year since the war has happened and they can't settle into neutral grounds. They should give the athletes a chance to compete at the highest level of the sport. I am in agreement with Bach's decision to support athletes from Belarus and Russia to compete under neutral flag. During the Olympics, they don't represent any country or anyone, just themselves wanting to showcase the world what they have in the highest level of the sport they are participating in. I think it's time for Zelenskiy to realize that Ukraine's enemy aren't the entirety of Russia and Belarus, only its leaders who are using its people as pawns on the chessboard in order to gain whatever the hell they want.

Changing nationality just to get in to the Olympics doesn't sound legit for me. I know that some of the Arab nations do this, by giving out passports to athletes from Africa and Latin America. But it kills the spirit of the game. Such practices give an unfair advantage to richer countries, who can attract players with funds and facilities.  And this in turn harms the prospects of poorer nations, who lose their opportunity to earn medals (and funds). Now in case of Russian and Belarussian athletes, they are changing nationality not for money, but just for the opportunity to participate in Olympics.

Athletes can change their passports and represent other country. Some athletes do this, because they dont fit in athletes quota of their country, or they simply emigrate. It has become common to see, for example, Sergey and Tatiana in ice skating, that represent Canada. Or Russian boxer Artur Beterbiev now fights under Canadian flag.

Some athletes actually might change nationality on purpose to participate in Paris 2024 Olympic games. Their goal is not only to represent their motherland, but to become an Olympic champion. Sometimes it does not matter which flag you have on a jacket, when you have a gold medal on you neck. From business point of view - you wont earn much when you retired. Athletes open their sport schools. And "TopTort777 boxing school" sounds worse than "Olympic champion's TopTort777 boxing school" In my childhood we have boxing schools in every schools basement. But "Olympic" gives more prestige, it automatically ads 100% to monthly subscription price.

The steps taken by the IOC will be the same as those taken by organizers of other major sporting events, for example, tennis, last year only at the Wimbledon Grand Slam where Russian and Belarusian tennis players were banned from playing but we know that Russia has many tennis athletes who they defend other countries and are champions the women of wimbledon are athletes born in russia only she defended Kazakhstan.

The president of the International Olympic Committee (IOC), Thomas Bach has further clarified the situation related to athletes from Russia and Belarus. Previously Volodymyr Zelenskiy had asked the IOC to impose a blanket ban on athletes from these two countries. But according to Bach, no such action will be taken, as the governments can't decide on which teams should compete and which ones should not participate. Obviously the statement from Bach has attracted fierce criticism from Zelenskiy. Russian and Belarussian athletes will now compete under neutral flag.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2023/feb/12/olympics-head-rejects-zelenskiy-call-to-ban-russian-athletes-from-paris-games

I think you confused Olympic games and IIHF World Championship. Olympic games is played in February when in NHL it's still regular season. So, if NHL don't make window for Olympic games, there won't be any NHL players there, as it was in 2018 and 2022. While IIHF World Campionship is played in May when it's already playoff time in NHL. So, if their team haven't qualified to playoffs or already dropped from it, they can join their national teams.

During the recently concluded FIFA World Cup at Qatar also we faced similar issues. Some of the clubs were saying that they will not release the players. They had a point though, as the FIFA World Cup this time had slightly shifted from the normal date, to take in to account the extreme climatic conditions at Qatar. So there was an overlap with the European leagues. But then they need to remind the fact that world cup is an event that occurs only once every 4 years. And it lasts for less than a month, compared to the leagues that stretch for many months.

But wasnt it that all the time NHL play-off happens during Winter Olympic games-hockey tournament ? If the team is kicked from playoff, NHL players usually fly to help their national teams. If the NHL team still plays, then why should they release their employees when they have work to do? Also I know, that if your team isnt in playoff anymore, you can just fly to play during Olympic games, you have to be announced to the team. Before Olympic games, coaches make team roasters. They create a team from everyone who is available, plus add some super start from NHL with a hope they will be free. It is hard to form a players combo, if part of the players are on the ice, others are in NHL (regular season or playoff), and train them. Imho a combination of 2-3 average players, who trained together for some time is stronger than individual from NHL, who only "might join" team during Olympics.

Well.. let the players take the decision. For some players, winning an Olympic medal for their country would be one of the highest priorities. But for some others, playing for the club is more important. The current eligibility criteria (U-23 plus 3 senior) is well suited here, since it gives enough room for those senior players who have an Olympic ambition. And this criteria has resulted in some of the African countries winning the gold medal. Nigeria won the gold in 1996 and Cameroon in 2000. So in general, the changed eligibility criteria have been beneficial for the globalization of football.

I love Olympics games and during this period,these games will entertain you when you are less busy because,there are various games that are very interesting. I am a football fan and I also love surfing.

This is going to be fun breaking,I guess break dance like Michael Jackson and the rest or am I lost here. I can't wait to watch next year Olympics.

Well, they could apply some implications for the crowd to judge the performance but with a certain percentage, because in some Criteria for judging a performer, there these Audience impact criteria that may lead the judges in making judging a bit immediately known to the public because of the Audience, the likeliness for some judges if they would not go with the Audience reaction they could have some issue about it, that is just the negative points for that kind of criteria but surely it could also lead to some not questioning the judge's decision, for me if they would include break dancing in the Olympics they surely need to learn how to handle this kind of event,


Most likely they will not get well-known players, but in some cases, if that well-known is really good at something then they might put some legality to it, pretty much they didn't need star power in getting to this point and there could be a lot of issues involving known personality that might ruin the Olympics reputation,

For now, we still have plenty of time to discuss for me I could share some combat sports that involve in the Olympics, and what I think about the fight, but surely it is hard to predict if they could make a good quality Olympics we could base it on the recent ones they have but surely this is the new era and a lot have change,

as an Indonesian citizen.. Indonesian football team, I also fully support them, and I hope that Mr Erick Thohir (candidate for chairman of PSSI) is elected and can improve the quality of Indonesian football before the Paris Olympics starts. Besides badminton, Indonesia has also won gold medals in archery - rowing - surfing - weightlifting. badminton team!! they are my biggest hope for a gold medal later.


if you feel bored watching athletics, there are many other sports that you can enjoy at the Paris Olympics later. I'm sure, the Paris Olympics will be very successful.

I agree with the current age criteria. Olympic competitions are not intended to showoff the star power, but rather it needs to showcase the popularity of the sport and talent from all around the world. Given this, I would agree with the current criteria of U-23 players + 3 members of the senior side. In this way, the clubs also don't have much to worry about losing their players (I really don't know what is their problem in releasing the players for a couple of weeks, for a competition that occurs once every four years). And regarding 5-a-side soccer - strict no. We don't need these sham competitions in Olympics.

Without age limitation it would be become more prestigous tournament. In all other sports, winning World Cup or EURO is very important, but Olympic gold is biggest achievement that you can get. And I doubt that getting medal in Olympics is among main reasons why countries invest in football development. They do it to grow up players for clubs and national team.
5 on 5 football, never heard about it. There is already 3x3 basketball or Rugby 7 in Olympics, so, why not. Or it would be interesting to see futsal or beach soccer added

It looks very different from pictograms that we had in previous Olympics. I agree with post above that some don't look clear enough to see what sport it represent. I prefer more minimalistic style.

overall it looks fine. it's probably just me but I have to say that some of the pictograms are hard to distinguish on what sport they symbolize. I am probably just used to the old pictogram designs they usually use. they did say on the website that they "reinvented" the concept of the Olympic and Paralympic pictograms, so the design is pretty new(at least for me).

But if they allowed any age, what would be the difference to other competitions like the World Cup?
And what would be a great incentive for the national teams to also invest in their youth teams and develop soccer in their countries?
I still believe that soccer in the Olympics is better this way because it is a great differential, you will see players that will possibly be playing in their national teams in a few years.

Another thing I haven't commented on, but five-a-side soccer would be a very nice category to include in the Olympics.

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By the way, they released the pictograms of 2024 Olympics, take a look guys:


Source: https://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1133448/paris-2024-pictograms-unveiled

You can see better in high definition here: https://www.paris2024.org/en/pictograms/

What do you think?

It is the Olympics already in summer 2024, that has come round fast. I mostly enjoy watching the athletics but I usually find myself bored, watching some really obscure sports. I have no doubt that Paris will put on a real festival of sport.

For the football, I personally will not give any hope for Indonesia national team participation maybe they are failed in qualification again. However, if Indonesia can qualify, this will be a good achievement for coach Sin Tae Young. My greatest hope is Badminton. Hopefully Indonesia still has the talent of players to bring gold in Badminton, even i can dream Indonesia can win all categories in this sport. 

We all the different views. But I am also not in favor of any limitations to the Olympics. Olympic boxing, for instance, does not allow professionals from competing so it was all amaterus but lately, it started to allow anyone to compete. The Olympics is supposed to be an event where the best of the best from different sports gather together. Football's FIFA World Cup though is a close rival to the Olympics as both are competing to be called the biggest sporting event. There might be something political behind it.

The competitions can be staged in mainland France. But then the outlying territories will accuse the Comité National Olympique et Sportif Français (CNOSF) of discriminating against regions that are populated mostly by ethnic minorities. Remmeber the fact that these territories (including French Polynesia) are considered as an integral part of the Republic of France (unlike the case with United Kingdom, where colonies such as Cayman Islands and Bermuda are treated as territories with their own government, but under the crown).

Now every country players will be pushing hard to make their progress in the Olympics. Four new games added will have additional focus, because winning a new game for the first time becomes big history. Around 17 days of games with huge number of participants from all around the world makes the event enjoyable. Already Paris is much known for its beauty and now the Olympic games will make it more beautiful.

I don't agree with you. In most sports competitions Olympic Gold medal is biggest achievement that you can get. In football, Olympics probably is just a bit more important than FIFA U-20 World championship. Without biggest stars interest in Olympic football tournament is low and probably not many can name winners of few last Olympics.
Look at basketball, NBA players have huge contracts, but they play in Olympics without getting paid for. Or best tennis players always participate in Olympics without getting rankinf points for.
In Winter Games hockey have similar problem like football. NHL don't want to release their players and without it tournament lose lot of prestige.

The list of Olympic games is always weird.

Why there is triathlon and modern pentathlon? That looks like one and the same sport. I can accept triathlon, because it is running, swimming, cycling. Things that is common for most of people as "doing sports". But why make separate category as pentathlon and add fencing or pistol shooting? Is modern pentathlon a sport for those who suck at shooting, fencing and athletics as separate sport? Modern pentathlon athletes lack just a little to join national team aka failed at Olympic qualification. So not to waste time and effort, Olympics committee made made special discipline for them?

And breaking? There are 100+ dancing styles? Why not add all of them then? Jerking looks interesting. Google search shows even more interesting pictures. Why not add it to Olympic sports list? That will increase Olympic games viewers number.

The age limit was established in 1992, and it has several good reasons.
I didn't agree with it until a few years ago either, but now I do.

• With the age limit, the competition becomes different from the World Cup, and with chances for different teams to win or get better positions, like Nigeria in 1996, Cameroon in 2000, and Mexico in 2012.
• Countries are encouraged to invest in youth teams to strengthen soccer as a whole.
• Young players have the opportunity to participate more, rather than the same players in the major competitions.
• The soccer players who participate in other competitions such as the World Cup are used to competitions that make a huge amount of money, often more important than the sport itself, and this in my opinion does not exactly fit with the Olympics.

For these reasons above, I believe they made a good choice in limiting the age.
And yet they allow 3 players over 23, so the biggest soccer stars still have a chance to participate.

I'm curious if chess a very old game that is played worldwide is going to be finally admitted to the Olympics. Esports is another type of sport that is growing rapidly and some of it and its events are bigger than many physical sports. Or maybe esports should organize its own event like the Olympics. That would be cool too.

Nonetheless, I always watch the Olympics ever since. I will be focusing mostly on boxing and basketball. Swimming and tennis are also interesting. I also hope that the Olympic committee one day allows no age limitations on football.

It's weird in my opinion hehehe, like the French border with Brazil in French Guiana.
I agree that Teahupo'o (Tahiti) have probably the best waves in all French territory, and it's really the top 2 waves in the world together with Pipeline Hawaii, it's a magical place, but it's extreme dangerous, this is one of the heaviest waves in the world. From 2006 until 2021 the women's championship was banned for safety reasons.

It's going to be weird that the surfers are so far away from Paris that it's going to seem like a totally different event than the Olympics, when you see most of the athletes together in one place.
And France has many great surfing spots, like Hossegor, Biarritz and Lacanau, which are much closer to Paris and would make more sense in my opinion, they have great waves but without the danger of Tahiti.

When the scoring criteria can be interpreted quite liberally, it always gives rise to disputes. If you remember, there was massive controversy when Israel was given the gold medal ahead of Russia, during Tokyo 2020. A lot of the sports analysts complained that Russian athletes had performed better, but then Israel was given the medal based on political consideration. Scoring can be quite complicated with boxing as well. But lack of fixed rules with breakdance scoring takes all this to a different level. I don't know how this will work in Paris 2024.

I used to watch Battle of The Year break dancing event videos and judging criteria was usually crowd reaction. Dancers performed various elements, but the crowd gave much noise when one of the dancer performs windmill. No matter how difficult the elements dancer showed (often they required a lot of strength, strong joints), when opposite dancer performs windmill, the crowd goes crazy. What looks cool, gets higher score. Such scoring system is bad for international challenges of Olympic games level. Such a score system is not objective.

Well, if someone is opening up about that topic, it will surely drag down the thread to that, but surely all I want is for all available countries to participate no banning of the said countries, just because you have hate for that said country because their country has decided in waging war, against another country,

But let's end the discussion about it and yeah move on to sports, well certain I think this is  too early to discuss but regarding adding sports in the Olympic that summer base is a great idea,


As I have said let's just bring peace not war, and certainly, Russian Civilians don't want that to happen it is all political and a misunderstanding of the two leaders, not the people so please stop hating the people

Well Break Dancing is included maybe they will have a plan for how they can score it and they surely have criteria for judging it just like in most different show that depicts break dancing or other dancing contest I really think they have certain plans for it, well this is a summer Olympics so all said games are based on sports that are likely be on warm weather and another thing Indoor games are also can be included here aswell, but apparently, I like Taekwondo so maybe I will likely watch and if I could make a bet on that,

French Polynesia (Tahiti, Tuamotu and Marquesas islands) is an "overseas department" of France and therefore the French have the right to schedule some of the events there. But obviously it will give rise to a lot of logistical complexities. France is a colonial power, which still rules over bits and pieces of territories all over the world. And these territories are considered as part of France, and therefore if they don't give hosting rights, then the inhabitants of these regions will accuse the French Olympic authorities of discrimination. At least let us be relieved with the fact that they are not organizing any events in Adelie Land (French Antarctica).   

I think this categorization of men and women should be abolished to make room for another factor that would be much fairer...

Today technology allows us to safely and accurately measure a biomarker based on a person's testosterone levels, so instead of dividing athletes into male and female, why not divide by testosterone level?

This measurement would allow us to include intersex athletes, such as South African middle distance runner Caster Semenya, who have naturally high testosterone levels (she is female and not trans, but in 2018 she was banned from competing in the Olympics after the IAAF ruled that women with elevated testosterone levels should take drugs to lower them, and only then be able to compete in the women's category, so did Namibian track and field stars Christine Mboma and Beatrice Masilingi at the Tokyo Olympics.

This is fair? Obviously not.

The world is evolving and this segmentation of men and women also needs to change.

I agree with you, I hope that news related to Russian-Ukrainian politics will not appear again in the future so that the topic is not deviated and polluted.

Finally Olympic games will be at good time for Europeans to watch. For the first time since 2012 London, we won't have to watch Olympics at night or early morning.
If you already mentioned new sports added to Olympic programme, it's worth to mention that they dropped out karate and baseball/softball.
About Russia and Belarus, don't to go into politics here, but my opinion that they shouldn't be allowed. It's not just war, but also doping issues of Russia, don't forget that in previous Olympics they had to participate as neutral athletes without a flag.

As far as I know, some of the types of sports that are proposed are familiar, as friends here said, happened at the Tokyo Olympics, these sports have already been contested.
Example:
As said by:@Thomas Bach.
Source: Sport Climbing and Surfing Make the Paris 2024 Summer Olympics.

As I know the purpose of adding these sports has been conveyed by the IOC, as quoted below.

So, it seems that the addition of several other sports at the upcoming Paris 2024 Olympics is not a rare phenomenon, except: there are other things that we can talk about here, maybe they are more interesting to discuss.
Such as: The qualifying team, the best team, the team winning the most silver, gold, bronze medals, maybe that's new development information, which is worth publishing, that's my opinion and it's useful for gamblers.

I'm more interested in Olympics because now they have Surf and Skateboarding 
I also like football, BMX and mountain bike, and of course Athletics.

Nobody is talking about gambling yet, but in Surf, SK8 and football I have good knowledge and I'll bet in these 3 categories

Interesting fact: in 2024 the surf competition will take place in Teahupo'o, one of the best waves in the world and one of the most dangerous 
Different than Olympics in Tokyo
I know it's strange, but Teahupo'o is situated in Tahiti - French Polynesia, and the distance between Paris and Teahupo's is more than 15.000 km 

Agreed w.r.t Russian athletes. IOC has already banned Russia from competing the Games and the athletes are only allowed as neutral candidates. Now the suggestion to ban individual athletes is stupid. Because ordinary Russians doesn't have anything to do with the Putin regime. And a vast majority of the Russian and Ukrainian soldiers fighting this war have been recruited through forceful means. Punishing them for the crimes of the regime doesn't make any sense. The most vocal proponents of this Russian athlete ban are those from countries that engage in political interference in other countries - such as the NATO bloc.

And I have similar concerns regarding breakdancing. The scoring is going to be quite controversial, as thee are no fixed rules available. Asian Games have included Esports and some of the other multi-sports events have included motor-sports as one of the disciplines. And at the same time, they are planning to shelve genuine sports such as Wrestling and Boxing. I am not happy with the direction they are taking.

Try to resist turning this topic from sports discussion into politics discussion. Sports and politics comes together, but lets focus more on sports. If we ban every country that was once involved in war as an aggressor, then we will have nobody to compete.

Until seen in this topic, I have never thought that breakdancing will be one of Olympic games sports programs. I find it interesting how the judges are going to select who will get gold medal, as there are different dance styles in breaking. I think breaking wont last in Olympic games, as it will hard to rate performance adequate. In few decades breaking will join discontinued Olympic sports programs list.

Well, it was until it was added again, I don't really know the exact details about this but there are no sports regarding Surfing, Sport Climbing, Skateboarding, and even Breaking that was 1st time I am hearing, were not included in the recent Beijing 2022 Olympics, Right now Alpine Skiing was not in there aswell maybe because of a certain area that sports availability, so certain aspect that have Skiing was not included aswell like Nordic Combine, and it was in the summertime so no Ice Hockey, all form of skating or skiing so all sports in the 2022 Olympic was a winter type of sports, but all these sports will be available in the 2024 Gangwon Olympics, like I have said it may vary depending on the place, or the weather,


Problems with Russia and Ukraine are all political, they will not include all Russian people or it really doesn't involve the society, tend not to include everyone with it because political things are not the same with personal agenda, but I sure don't approve of war at all, it is between two parties, so could be a provocation involve for the other to start a war, well that is their issue, and I really don't know the full details,

So I guess all the NATO countries should be banned since they were involved in the invasions of Iraq, Libya and Afghanistan, where millions of people died? I don't approve of what Russia is doing in Ukraine. But NATO bloc doesn't have the moral rights do take a high ground here, after all the invasions they did on third world nations.


I don't know. This sounds like a bad idea for me. Since when breakdancing is considered as a sport? It is an artform. If we includes breakdancing, then what prevents the inclusion of other dance forms such as belly dance, ballet, samba and flamenco?

No athlete from Russia or Belarus should be part of the Olympic games,the only games Russia knows to play are murdering innocent civilian and raping women beside doing every new day a new war crime and breaking International Law so based on this it would be a big hypocrisy for the committee who is responsible for organizing such games that are a representation of the free world to make any Russian or Belarus athlete to take part in this competition.

If they normally will not let them then from the betting perspective it increases the chances of those who want to bet here to win something.

Breaking becoming part of Olympics sound nice to me. I mean its a dance that involve both aesthetics and athletism. They did right with it. I guess nothing special other than this. I actually like Olympics in France cause its easy for me to watch in Türkiye. About betting part, I feel sure that Russia won't be in Olympics except some neutral athletes. So USA will very likely become leader of medal table at the end of it.

As usual, it gets messy when politics is mixed with sports.

IOC hasn't taken a decision on Russian and Belarussian participation for the 2024 event yet. All they have said till now is that they are examining a "pathway" so that the athletes can compete (probably under the ROC flag, similar to what they did for the 2020 Tokyo Games). Stanislav Pozdnyakov (head of Russian Olympic Committee) is lobbying for full participation, while Ukrainians are threatening to boycott the games if Russians are allowed under any flag. The argument from Ukraine is that out of the 71 medals won by athletes representing ROC in Tokyo, a total of 45 went to those who are members of the Central Sport Club of the Army (ЦCКA).

Sport climbing, surfing and skateboarding have indeed been contested at the Tokyo Olympics a few years ago but at the Paris Summer Olympics it was the first time ^{(Paris hosted the Summer Olympics for the third time)}

The transgender uproar at the Olympics occurred during the Tokyo Olympics which had passed, at that time Laurel Hubbard ^{(a weightlifter)} became the first transgender athlete to be recognized by the IOC.  some protested but in fact it was continued in the women's category and vice versa.

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Reportedly, the flame torch that opened the Paris Summer Olympics will be welcomed for the first time in the city of Marseille from Greece.

[1] https://onu.delegfrance.org/marseille-will-welcome-the-olympic-flame-as-it-begins-its-journey-through

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other news; Ukraine is ready to lobby all authorities so that Olympic athletes from Russia and Belarus are not allowed to compete in the 2024 Paris Summer Olympics.

[1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/olympics/2023/02/03/ukraine-ban-russia-belarus-olympics/

you are right, in this paragraph, the three sports made their debut at the Tokyo 2020 Olympics and only "breaking" did its first at the Olympics as an optional sport, maybe OP skip this paragraph lol.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Summer_Olympics

I still can't stop thinking about transwomen who enter the women's category at the Olympics, they are basically men, how can men be ordered to compete with women when we know that the Olympics are competitions that rely on physical strength and transwomen's physical strength is on par with men. transgender people should have their own category like those with disabilities.

wait, isn't surfing, sport climbing and skateboarding have been part of the Olympics? I mean I saw them during the 2020 Tokyo Olympics, and the only new sport I see that has been added is breaking.

anyway, I wonder if they are going to allow another trans woman to participate in the women's category.

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Reportedly, the qualification for the Paris 2024 Olympics in the Asia zone will take place on April 3 -11 2023.  besides that, there are 4 sports that are added to it, these sports: surfing, sport climbing, breaking, and skateboarding.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Summer_Olympics
[2] https://olympics.com/en/olympic-games/paris-2024