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###################BEST TIME TO HEAT UP RIGS###################

Most of the miners / non-miners think that when we are in bearish market we are loosing the time and energy that is being spent on the mining. However, I think exactly opposite to that. I have kept my miners running 24*7 without any further hesitation. I am loosing lot of patience now and then but I have made my self prepared for the worst!

I want to make good example of HODLER out of me and this is one of the attempts to do so!

In my journey I have already profited from the miners, I have recovered my ROI's and stuff. I am in the 4th year of mining. Though first two years were little harsh as I was learning it but now everything is on track.

I know that market will revive itself and all my HODLING's will turn green soon!

- HODLING MINER  :D
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HOT UPDATES
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  Location Temperature      →     103 F between 12 pm to 5 pm
  AC Set Temperature         →     60.8 F (Lowest it can go)
  Mining Rig               →   Tmax 176 F between 12 pm to 5 pm

Though AC settings are at its lowest, due to external hot temperature things are really messy in the mining room. As whole, the room is settled on the roof and thus it gets heated up too.

I have focused the AC stream directly onto the Mining Rigs so that it can cool off the most heating part that is GPU. However, still with high temperature fans are running on high rpm.

Most of the PSU is supplying around 946 Watt electricity. The PSU capacity is 1000 W. Due to lot of fluctuations mining rig is withdrawing heavy energy at few times.

In addition to this due to Hot Electrical Board and high electricity flow I had one of the socket burnt up.

Mining rig is safe.
PSU is safe.
No other harm happened.






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REPLACED PSU WIRE, SOCKET. MINING STILL ON
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hero member
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**UPDATES**

As the temperature in my country is rising, with heat waves hitting the city due to summer its impacting the mining performance a lot.

Over the period of time your machines start to cry. In my case Power Supply Unit, PSU-V1000 model has started to get some troubles.

With my experience its very common.....
1) PSU going dead
2) PSU going into cyclic reboot
3) PSU supplying undervoltage.

Due to overheating of the mining rig, one machine launched its auto stop program multiple times in a day which ultimately caused few shorts in the wirings. So my PSU is getting lot of shocks due to on-off process. Due to shorting of wires, PSU is getting into cyclic reboots as well.

The first instance started back in January.


It started to give error of 511C.
This means one of the GPU is getting overheated. But in reality its not. This happens when you wirings are not properly fixed, or you have short-circuit in the connect from GPU to riser and to motherboard.



However, another rig is completely fine and balancing the profitability since RVN is already trading at its lowest rate and I am not in hurry to sell them.

The healthy rig, running since 3 years with some on off months!

It feels good when you see dashboard like this:





The Solution for PSU?

Well I am thinking about running 2 GPU first by decreasing the power supply load. Will keep increasing one GPU at time so that it wont overload it and burst into flames.
This is one of the troubleshooting aspect.


Or else will have to replace the entire PSU too.



hero member
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After the burn down of my rig hall, the rigs are settled properly one more time.

With the current rate of mining and also increased difficulty getting payouts of 200 RVN every couple of days now. This has led me to accumulate the RVN amount of 36307.8318 at the time of writing this post.

Total Payment cycles by #Nanopool : 352

1 year High $ 0.2854 per RVN
1 year Lowest $ 0.04 per RVN

Current rate: $ 0.07 per RVN and my assets from these mining rig is $ 2,541

I am not planning to sell them anyways. I will await the highest rate to be achieved one more time. So if get an opportunity to sell at $ 0.2854 then that would be around $ 10,362
hero member
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BURNING ROOM

Okay guys my Rig had some bad patch last month, thats December 2021. Things are now under control however this is lesson for everyone who is mining in their houses or nearby residential zones.

I have set up the rig on top of house, in a room which is not connected with any other fire catching stuff around it. So I had this fear all the time what if machines go rogue and burn down everything. This is very common in the Crypto Mining world and thats why I had this hunch.

So luckily this hunch got me in safety protocols first way before setting up the mining rig.

Now what really happened?

Well, there were crazy commands going on by the mining rig's Auto Reboot program.

In my OS I have set up safe fail mechanism for the mining machines.

This has some features like:
1) If mining rig has problems with GPU then it will reload or reboot based on the issue that is fetched.
2) Mining rig turns itself completely off if any GPU goes nuts, for example aggressive undervolt or any other electricity issues.
3) If any single GPU is making stuff harder then rig will command it to stop or go in standby mode.


In my case, it was second one. This was found in the crash log of my machine. This happened due poor connection of riser with one of the GPU. This was siganling that GPU is overheated and due to which rig was rebooting itself multiple times.

This fluctuated the electricity flow and fuse blown off. Sadly it also caught the fire and whole room was filled with smoke.

This was very very horrible experience. Due to breaker and additional metering there was no harm to the machines, air conditioner, Internet router, PC etc. However it would have been bad one if all the safety measures would not have been taken earlier.

So guys,

SAFETY GUIDELINES

1) Make sure all the electricity cables are in good conditions
2) Make sure the set up which has been done is in the place where there is no connectivity with residence. If yes then have plenty fire safety standards.
3) The room must be painted with fire proof paints.
4) Have at least two Fuse Breakers in line with stabiliser.
5) Load the mining rig with Automatic Fail Safe programs all the time.


ACTUAL IMAGES FROM SITE





All the machines are up and running one more time.
Grin
hero member
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Crossed my 100th Payment of RVN

I am not sure who else does share such things on forum but I felt like to share the success of mining for 100th payment cycle.
If you are not mining yet, then give it a shot, it feels great!






After the crypto went into bear mode the earnings dropped in terms of USD value. But the good thing about crypto space or mining is that you getting paid in the crypto. For example, my 100 RVN is always 100 RVN so it does not matter.

I can simply hold this and wait for the RVN to get back to it's original ATH which is around $ 0.28 per RVN.

The benefit of Bear Trend:
Many workers (miners) switch the coins so they can try to balance the profits. However, in the process you get more shares since most of the hash is directed towards you.


Why is it beneficial :

Net Hash over 180 DAY



Difficulty over 180 DAY


As you can clearly see from the graphs above the nethash is dropped and so as the difficulty of network.
This helps me a lot since my miner is able to provide more valid shares with less hash power and I am earning almost double than what the bull situation was.

From the calculator above (the first image) it shows how my earnings are above 200 RVN per Day.
This used to be just 90-120 RVN per day.

All I have to do is wait for the RVN to bounce back which will theoretical triple my profits in no time.

This is just amazing and so calming for me.

I hope new comers or existing peeps get good feeling from this.
Hope to see your Mining Rig up and running. Share your thoughts!
hero member
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Disadvantage: They are a little noisy.  Grin
I think that op won't mind about the fan being noisy when used at least the fan blows air and let the rig cools down a bit compared to using air conditioner to cool the rigs plus the distance of air conditioner to the rigs is around 1-2 meters in my observation on the image even though the room is closed, the cooling effect is different in distance.
legendary
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Farewell o_e_l_e_o
Thanks for the video.
You are welcome.

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I see how he has extra fans installed on the rig. I will probably do the same once I get some bucks back. Since I don't wanna rush spending from my own savings now, I will await some payments and then go for the modifications.
You should not feel serious about the cost, financially. Those fans (or exhausts) are very cheap. They are not expensive and will give you almost same cooling effects but at very cheaper cost than air conditioner.

Disadvantage: They are a little noisy.  Grin
hero member
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I pay attention to your air conditioner.

  • It is right that the air conditioner should be directly aimed at your rigs, to cool them down, not the whole room.
  • It brings more direct effects for your rigs but in generally, the overal temperature of your room is somewhat stable, a little bit higher than around the rigs.

I see temperature on the chart and see it is not low. With a temperature around 60 to 65 Celcius degree, it is not perfect if you use air conditioner in the aspect of power cost.
Alternatives
  • Install more fans for your rigs
  • Keep your mining room as opened as possible for better ventilation.

Have you tried to install 2 or 3 fans (exhausters) for your each of your rigs. It will give you similar temperature but with cheaper power cost. Wink

Similar set up as same as in the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4M7isj3c80

Yes, very good observation.

I am still developing the room and yes I plan on installing the exhausts. I have already decided the places where to install them since it only needs to suck the hot air out and not the air conditioned as whole.

The AC temp is 16 degree celsius so its pretty low. Installing exhausts will automatically lower the temps for rigs. At least im hoping so.  Cheesy

Thanks for the video. I see how he has extra fans installed on the rig. I will probably do the same once I get some bucks back. Since I don't wanna rush spending from my own savings now, I will await some payments and then go for the modifications.

Thank you for input.  Smiley
legendary
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Farewell o_e_l_e_o
I pay attention to your air conditioner.

  • It is right that the air conditioner should be directly aimed at your rigs, to cool them down, not the whole room.
  • It brings more direct effects for your rigs but in generally, the overal temperature of your room is somewhat stable, a little bit higher than around the rigs.

I see temperature on the chart and see it is not low. With a temperature around 60 to 65 Celcius degree, it is not perfect if you use air conditioner in the aspect of power cost.
Alternatives
  • Install more fans for your rigs
  • Keep your mining room as opened as possible for better ventilation.

Have you tried to install 2 or 3 fans (exhausters) for your each of your rigs. It will give you similar temperature but with cheaper power cost. Wink

Similar set up as same as in the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4M7isj3c80
hero member
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Part II - [GUIDE - Personal Experience] How to get started with Mining


Okay guys lets get started with this one.
In the Part- I I have covered basic set up for any mining rig which will help you achieve your altcoin mining dream.

As of now, I have set up two mining rigs all by own. That was the motivation for me to create the Part-I thread.
To motivate everyone, I am sharing my mining rig set up in small room. Note that I have not made the room too fancy, it is still under development and lot of work needs to be done.
However, mining rigs are already up and running which will help me cover ROI and expenses.

✓ This guide might help you with the electrical connections, cooling set up, positioning your rigs etc.
✓ If not, it will at least send you some inspirations to make your own.  Cheesy Cheesy




1. Why electricity is important & what are the cautions?

Mining operations is nothing but all about how you use your electricity. Because you are converting electrical energy into your profits! It might sound lame at first but yes, your rigs are hungry for this energy, they use this to power up the GPU's and perform the computational tasks.

Following table shows you different GPU's and power consumptions by them. Later is the description regarding "How much electricity does your Rig will use in total".

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|                               Model                                  ||                      Power                           ||                       Efficiency                         |
|                          NVIDIA RTX 3090                           ||                          290W                            ||                         0.42 Mh/w                            |
|                          NVIDIA RTX 3080                           ||                          230W                            ||                         0.43 Mh/w                            |
|                          AMD RX 6800 XT                            ||                          104W                            ||                         0.61 Mh/w                            |
|                          NVIDIA RTX 2080 Ti                        ||                         160W                            ||                         0.36 Mh/w                            |
|                          NVIDIA GTX 1060                           ||                           85W                            ||                         0.26 Mh/w                            |
* Table like this can be created using this tutorial: Tutorial - How to create Table in the BitcoinTalk Forum

From the table above you can easily see what power is required by your GPU, how efficient it is and correlation between the power and efficiency itself.
For example,

NVIDIA RTX 3090 has efficiency of 0.42 Mh/w, and considering it's maximum voltage input of 290 Watt you will get 0.42 x 290 = 121 MH/s of Hashrate.

Your electricity will play important role here because that's what decides how efficiently your card will work.
I mean if your input is less than 290 W then it won't hash that efficiently and you won't get 121 MH/s rate.

If your electricity is unstable then you will get results like the following one:


Image 1: Represents 7 days of Graph for my miner with Sapphire Cards.


Image 2: Represents 2 Hrs of Graph for my miner with Sapphire Cards.

Scale & Descriptions:

......... ---> Watt Graph (Yellow Dotted Line)
_____ ---> Hash Rate (Purple Line)
_____ ---> Temperature (Red Line)
_____ ---> Fan Speed (Blue Line)

So if you look closely the Image 1 and 2 above then you can study the patterns of watts and hash rates moving parallel to each other. The image 1 which is 7 days graph also shows sudden drop instances in hash and watt that one is electricity shut down and rebooting of the rig.

In rest of the graph you will see noisy line all over. This can be seen in detail with the Image 2. This happens due to Unstable Electrical connections. This data is taken from my own rig and the grid here is not that perfect.

However, this is way stable than what I had before setting up the extra Fuse and breakers, PSU apart from the actual electrical line.

GPU will suck electricity based on:

✓ Hashrate at which it is working. This may or may not drop. In my case, the 6 x sapphire card goes from 63 MH/s to 79 MH/s based on which electricity is fluctuated.
✓ Fan Speed: People forget that their fan are also working to cool down the GPU. If your fan is working below 30% speed then your cards won't require much energy. If fan is working at 100% capacity then it will suck more energy.
✓ Fan Speed can be controlled by using your OS's dashboard or BIOS settings. Or now a days it can be easily controlled with overclock settings from the OS dashboard.
✓ The only way to calm your fans is by lowering the temp of rig as whole by means of Air Conditioner or Blowers.

**Image 1 displays the Fan correlation with speed %, degrees, and watt.

2. The Caution

Here comes the image of my farm.

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Image 3Image 4Image 5


Image 3: Represents the split connects and main line coming directly from the area grid. In here we have main grid, sub-grids and metered grid for separate connections. Since my connection will use power more than 2-4 kw at any given time (including all the devices in room) it was better to acquire separate connection rather than running it on the normal area line.
So the wire thats coming to the Breaker is from metered line which also acts as main breaker. The one shown in the image is extra one for the safety.


Image 4: With my past experience, in which I have burned down the switch boards due to insufficient output and lower rating of the switch boards. So this time I have upgraded to the higher rating electrical board. As seen clearly in the photograph, I am using 16A output switches for the rig connection while the normal one's for monitor and wifi router.


Image 5: It just represents the complete set up of the farm and how I have arranged the rigs, air conditioner and electrical wires have been kept as sticky as to the surfaces so that it won't tangle you in and confuse later. Believe it happens when you are new and just started with the set up.


3. The Rig Settings (For proper cooling): - The small details, big Help!

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Image 6Image 7Image 8


Image 6: This was very first set up of my rig. I kept both the rigs facing the same side that is just plugged in the whole set up in sequence but never thought it will disturb the cooling patterns of both rigs. The air flow of first rig used to divert all the hot air to next rig and thus it added more degree's in the second one and it used to be hot all the time even when the air conditioner was facing it. So the next task was to divert the hot air to opposite direction away from both rigs.


Image 7: For this, checkout this image 7. You can observe that both are facing outwards and little tilted to above side. This help the cool air to struck on the GPU's and throw the air in outward direction. The change was clearly observed on the panel and both of them have almost same temperature around 30-60 celsius.


Image 8: The air conditioner needs to be positioned in single mode only. If you turn on the swing and try to cool the whole room then it won't work. Since the rig keep generating heat all the time, the conditioning is not that perfect.
So it's always better to stop the swing and keep the blower pointed on rigs. At least this helps cool it down.

In the night time, the temperature is way lower since complete atmospheric temp is also low. So the rigs are very efficient in the night time.


4. Auto Reboots in case of Electrical faults, High Temps:

I am using the auto features from my OS (that is SMOS). The set up is such that on the electrical failure or high voltages, mining rig completely stops the operation and go into sleep mode or pause mode. This cut off the the electrical supply from PSU until the power voltage turns on to the normal stage.

Similarly, if any of the GPU's go beyond the set temperature in my case it's 80-85 degree celsius, then the Rig will put itself into pause mode. This helps the rig to achieve lower temp, and after certain range it resumes the operations.

These safety precautions are amazing and it also reduces your physical presence near the rig. You can operate this remotely.

For this the following Watchdog scripts are used:

Code:
Watchdog options:
      --no_gpu_monitor      Disables the ADL (Windows) or sysfs (Linux) GPU monitor for temperature and
                              fan speed.
      --temp_limit=TEMP     Sets the temperature at which the miner will stop GPUs that are too hot.
                              Default is 85C.
      --temp_resume=TEMP    Sets the temperature below which the miner will resume GPUs that were previously
                              stopped due to temperature exceeding limit.  Default is 60C.
      --watchdog_script(=X) Configures the gpu watchdog to shut down the miner and run the specified platform
                              and exits immediately. The default script is watchdog.bat/watchdog.sh in the
                              current directory, but a different script can be provided as an optional argument,
                              potentially with a absolute or relative path as well.
      --watchdog_test       Tests the configured watchdog script by triggering the same action as a dead gpu
                              after ~20 secs of mining.
      --watchdog_disabled   Forces the watchdog to not execute. Can be used to disable the watchdog in mining os
                              that always run with the watchdog enabled.

More on the coding part in next tutorial.




- I hope you find this tutorial or article very interesting.
- I am not Expert, my tute may not be perfect but you should educate yourself by reading other sources, tutorials etc.
-I am just sharing what I am doing in the hope that all the young people and new comers will get motivated with this and DIY.
-This is out of love of Crypto Space we are in!.
- To the moon.
 Wink
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