Topic: Paul Craig Roberts on Orlando Shooting: Still No Evidence, No Blood, No Bodies (Read 818 times)

Care to explain with what the USA actually succeeded in vietnam? ( i mean except the killing of millions of innoncent civilians with bio-chemical weapons, incendiary bombs and destroying 90+% of indochinas infrastructure)

Because last time i checked vietnam is still one the few(4 1/2) communist countries left in the world.

The USA had the ability to easily win in Viet Nam. They showed this over and over in many battles. Politics and business ordered the pullout without an official win, after the US military accomplished all the goals that big business and politics wanted.

Like how the glorious USA won in Vietnam.

Who needs facts and history if you have bryant.coleman

Some readers have asked for my take on the Orlando Shooting.

I don’t have one. Let’s see if together we can form a reasonable view.

Let’s start with the basic first question. Before there can be a murder declared, there must be a body. Has anyone seen on TV or in newspapers pictures of dead bodies? Bodies should be readily available if the reports are correct that fifty people were killed and 50 or more were wounded and in hospital.

I cannot bear the presstitute TV and print media. These are full-time propaganda organizations. Hopefully, some of you hold your nose and watch the news and can fill in the spaces. Has anything we have been told been confirmed by any real evidence?

Initially, I saw a CNN newscast and a RT report. The reports were heavy with verbiage of blood being all over the place, but the only visual evidence offered were three people, supposedly injured, being helped, not by medics or first responders, but by ordinary folks. A couple of people were helping a guy with tattoos in place of a shirt, but there was no sign of blood. Several people were helping people in police uniforms to carry a person who they dumped in the back of a pickup truck, not in the cab. About 6 people were carrying a person stretched out prone (no stretcher) down a street.

There was no blood and it looked like a crisis acting performance. Why prone? Is an injured person really able to keep his body stiff so that he can be carried along prone parallel to the ground? Where are they taking him? Is this just a camera walk-by? http://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2016/06/12/orlando-nightclub-shooting-witness-sot.cnn/video/playlists/orlando-nightclub-shooting/ What has become of the protocol that untrained people are not to attempt to help injured people? When police arrive at a scene, they usually run off bystanders, not recruit them to assist their activities or allow them to carry away the wounded and dead.

Readers have noticed that the visual evidence does not match the verbal reports. Readers report that Fox “News” and MSNBC repeatedly show the same footage described above of bystanders carrying supposedly injured victims whose facial expressions are completely unstressed and show no pain, fear, or blood.

So has anyone seen any dead bodies? Any body bags? Any wounded taken to hospitals in ambulances? Any of the hospital wounded interviewed by TV reporters? Has any reporter checked with the morgue?

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The mujahideens won against the red army, Mao said the strategy is irrelevant in achieving victory. Red army left, meaning mujahideens won. Guerilla is only a tactic.

The father was working for kgb. If west was so bad why did he came?

I have my own ideas about the Orlando shooting and the math associated with it that doesn’t compute, raising all kinds of red flags. I’ll try to post my thoughts as a video soon.

For now, check out these two reports, which have interesting or compelling reasoning from their own standpoint.

Disclaimer: My posting of these excerpts does not necessarily mean I endorse or agree with the views or opinions expressed by reports’ authors.

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Was wondering what your take is on this. Veterans Today has it as most likely another false flag. Like you pointed out, many groups to benefit from this. The DEMS are pushing hard for gun control, Israel is ecstatic of more hatred towards Muslims, the DOD loves more war money, and the beat goes on. I was looking for ambulances and paramedics, but saw none. Then the BOZO, known as the President here, gets on TV asap and pushes gun control, never mentions anything else. He was cold and remorseless, and walked away fast. Meanwhile, the Congress and President and Homeland Insecurity are bringing in crateloads of questionable immigrants, some handled by religious groups no less (raking in the dough).

His father was not working for the Soviet Army. He was working for the legitimate Afghan government, which was headed by Mohammed Najibullah. The Americans overthrew the secular regime of Najibullah, and replaced it with an Islamist one. The Mujahideen / NATO never came close to defeating the Soviets, and that is the reason why they retreated from the cities and waged the guerilla warfare. 

His father was not working for the Soviet Army. He was working for the legitimate Afghan government, which was headed by Mohammed Najibullah. The Americans overthrew the secular regime of Najibullah, and replaced it with an Islamist one. The Mujahideen / NATO never came close to defeating the Soviets, and that is the reason why they retreated from the cities and waged the guerilla warfare. 

Lezards are dinosaurs... So here is the new official narrative: the father of the dude was operative for the soviet army during the soviet invasion, following the destruction and defeat of Russia against the mujahideen and their stingers manpad the father emigrated to USA because he was afraid to be discovered by the afghans. Once in USA he became cover operative for Russia and sacrificed his son for the motherland. Done deal.

No bodies?
Strange, but what about the missing people, if they are not dead, then where could they be?

Paul Craig Roberts on Orlando Shooting:
Still No Evidence, No Blood, No Bodies

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Lezards are dinosaurs... So here is the new official narrative: the father of the dude was operative for the soviet army during the soviet invasion, following the destruction and defeat of Russia against the mujahideen and their stingers manpad the father emigrated to USA because he was afraid to be discovered by the afghans. Once in USA he became cover operative for Russia and sacrificed his son for the motherland. Done deal.

It's ironic that someone who believes that a sky fairy created the world 4,000 years ago and that humans lived alongside dinosaurs at that time, demands more evidence of a shooting that happened a few days ago before he'll believe it.

 

Dr. Paul Craig Roberts makes a very good point… if we cannot prove the story, we are entitled to disbelieve it.

In response to my challenge, readers report that they have found no evidence of bodies or blood. One person reports that a TV station posted names of some victims, which is the way the absence of Sandy Hook bodies was handled.

One person who said he is a veteran said the AR-15 can have a 30-round clip. That would mean four reloadings in order to shoot 103 people. The veteran said that the rifle can be reloaded in 5 seconds: one clip is dropped out, another put in, and the bolt released. But 5 seconds is not fast enough to prevent being rushed. Remember, sprinters can cover 100 yards—300 feet—in less than 10 seconds. Ordinary people who are not couch potatoes can cover 300 feet in 20 seconds. That means they can cover 150 feet in 10 seconds or 75 feet in 5 seconds or 15 feet in 1 second.. In the crowded club, people were likely no more than 10 feet from the shooter, 20 feet at the most. Moreover, if there is only one shooter, he can be rushed in an arc that he cannot possibly cover. It is difficult to imagine that there were no veterans in the club, no people aware that guns run out of bullets and have to be reloaded and that so many people would miss four opportunities to disarm the shooter. It is hard to imagine that none of the hundreds of people present were capable of presence of mind. Bottles could be thrown at him, glasses, chairs. And no one did anything?

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