Topic: Payment No. 1: A Closer Look at the Very First Bitcoin Transfer (Read 2224 times)

Ok so this seems to be the most recent discussion, but I'm still looking for more. I'd love to document the most provable version of events and then we can make some sci-fi theories about what really happened

Thank You for your post from Nov. 2017, amishmanish.


I realize I am the second person, i.e. after Hal Finney, to have received 10 Bitcoins from Satoshi Nakamoto-- about 2 1/2 hrs. later.

My wallet is the second to last red-glyphed transaction from Satoshi in Block 9, the wallet with the easy to remember mneomic

capital lettered combo.  

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/12cbQLTFMXRnSzktFkuoG3eHoMeFtpTu3S

Oh, how long I stared at that and dreamed what Satoshi told me from his great detail in hours of voice

conversations via Skype!


In my posts on this board since late November, not a single poster or journalist has sought to contact me.  

I would like to put this on a blockchain e-book, maybe on Elastos, when it is fleshed out more (not a big steemit fan due to its

top-heavy system).


I could write more; unsure if I will.  Depends on the interest.


If anyone wonders, my young Russian neighbor Pavel in Tallinn, Mustamae district (he with the devastantingly beautiful blonde

girlfriend-mate-- Satoshi would/will like that) , has (had) the Sony Vaio tower after I was

deported from Estonia for speech and thought violations.  I gave it to him from my 3 months administrative incarceration.  No idea if

he still has it, though.


I suppose, Eesti being the techie country it is, their intelligence services might trace it down if anybody would even believe me.  It

pleases me Satoshi knows the truth.  It's been a hard road-- over 9 months imprisonment in 4 countries (Estonia, Finland, Canada

and the USA)  for simply espousing truth.

Over the years of our friendship, Satoshi was very clever feigning unpresumptuous poverty.  He could litigate against me now,

but what would be the point?  I live on $457 per month in social security and seasonal show shoveling and farm jobs.  On the up

side, I am an early adapter of an AI token, and I do have a mate who is a blonde, blue-eyed genius...she writes an edifing atheist

blog.  Big skull like Satoshi's.  But either I or she need the fertility treatments.  We'll go for those. I wouldn't have met her had I not

done this work, as she noticed me via that.  So that is something.

Well, all these Bitcoin mags and websites don't even have phone numbers.  The MSM fake news, they can't handle this.  

If anyone has any ideas, you can PM me on this site, the one Satoshi Nakamoto made to look like Stormfront (lulz, I know that

rubs you guys the wrong way).  


What's the point?  You guys like the cultish mystery better than the factual story.

Believe it or not, I have tremendous admiration, respect, and awe for Satoshi Nakamoto.  I know we talked at great length many,

many times about the Tanimoshi... (name suffix similarity) ... might even have mentioned Mikio Yushima,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yukio_Mishima

 as I lived just under 25 years in Hawaii and greatly-admired that activist who was

considered for the Nobel prize in literature 3 times.  I recall mentioning to him via voice Skype, though I expect how much Americans in general

regard Japanese people in high esteem because of the latter's  group personal qualities and production capabilities.


I really hope Satoshi gets the worldwide respect and admiration he deserves; it might counter the disrespect he was shown

by the corrupt Silicon Valley statists way back when.  Satoshi Nakamoto is right up there with Gutenberg. He is still alive, and can

teach.

 
Thank You.  Hope you

don't consider this too ignoble an historical resolution.

Well, there are some extraordinary facts about this:

1. Satoshi's address is still receiving transactions. Maybe donations? Or maybe just naive attempts to make him know we don't forget him...
2. Satoshi sent his first transaction to Hal Finney, but why this? Why sent to him? My speculation is that Satoshi and Hal worked together or even they were the same person! Such speculations are confirmed by this:



3. I'm also astonished about transaction fees! ZERO! I didn't know first Bitcoin transactions were basically free...

I'd written, years ago, in a notebook that the release was on 2009-01-10 21:22:01. You're right, that's an error, it's actually the timestamp of Hal Finney's first reply that I'd mislabeled. With this in mind I had thought the first 14 blocks after the genesis block were made beforehand because of the 24-hour gap between 14 and 15. I'll fix that part of the post.


We attribute early blocks to pseudonymous miners by looking at the extraNonce parameter in the coinbase transactions of those blocks. Blocks 1 to 11 appear to have been mined by the same session incrementing extraNonce, and up until block 78 every block follows that same basic pattern with no interruptions except for two unspent blocks.

wtf.

Block 1 has a timestamp of 2009-01-09 02:54:25.   The announcement of Bitcoin's release is timestamped Thu Jan 8 14:27:40 EST 2009, which is more than 7 hours before block 1.


Please fix your post before we have to endure more years of people repeating unsupported speculation and outright untruths about the history of Bitcoin.

You have no idea which if any other blocks he mined, -- the only reason you think you do is due to garbage "scholarship" like your own that can't even manage to compare two dates.

Blocks 73 to 77 seems to be mined by Satoshi.

Block 78 was mined by HAL.

My hypothesis is that Satoshi was looking at the debug log on real-time. When he saw that a block had been mined by another person he decided to restart his node (blocks 79 to 125 are his).

I like to call it background noise in my head. Addresses that are interesting for some reason or another always seem to have it, collecting dust like ancient treasures. Maybe I will post about that next.

Now i feel bad about my post. It feels unnecessarily sensationalized. I apologize.. Just wasted that time to navigate and come to a stupid conclusion. Hope everyone in the family isl doing good.

This was a very well written and informative post. I honestly can say I learned a lot from this and for you to take your time doing the detective work is amazing and I just wanted to say thanks.

It means nothing. Hal left his Bitcoin to his family so they have control of his private keys. It is likely that they are only now figuring out what to do with his Bitcoin and how to move it around.

Nice presentation there OP..
That original wallet had only a few outgoing  transactions it seems:

32 Satoshi from the 50 was transferred to a total of 5 addresses.
1BBz9Z15YpELQ4QP5sEKb1SwxkcmPb5TMs contains 11 out of the 32 (Not touched since 14-01-2009)
1BDvQZjaAJH4ecZ8aL3fYgTi7rnn3o2thE contains 1 out of 32 ( Not touched since 12-01-2009)
1DUDsfc23Dv9sPMEk5RsrtfzCw5ofi5sVW contains 10 out of 32 ( Not touched since 12-01-2009)

[EDITED]
These 3 addresses account for 22 Satoshi out of the 32 ever moved. The next addres 1Q2TWHE3GMdB6BZKafqwxXtWAWgFt5Jvm3 had been silent since 2009 till it moved 0.034337 BTC to 1Nt1SwDjXmbF61XDq7vjA51hbUuzKU97Lq in june this year.

Holy crap... This is such a weird coincidence. So weird in fact that it only really points to one solution; Hal WAS Satoshi. Why else would their mining times be so in sync with each other?

I think that the number of confirmations/blocks for which mined coins are unspendable was changed, but I can't remember exactly by how much or when. Not sure if it affects this analysis, therefore.

Very interesting and valuable for history of BTC,it's nice to know how it all started.I think it's really great that everything is so transparent and that it can be explored.I recently read post by Hal Finney from March 2013. and I have to admit that it really is very nice description how things started and his relationship with Satoshi Nakamoto.At the present time many are wondering what happened to Satoshi and whether that man actually existed,but there is one very nice sentence from Hal regarding Satoshi :


It is too bad that Hal has not been with us for a while,he will be forever remembered as person who made first payment with Satoshi and so he entered into history.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoin-and-me-hal-finney-155054

or sent as the tribute from strangers.

I can't solve any of the mysteries around Satoshi, but I enjoyed reading it.

I think of it as knocking on his door. Very rich Bitcoin addresses also receive small transactions once in a while.

I read the whole thing and makes me feel so honored to be a part of crypto. But it is weird as the address 12cbQLTFMXRnSzktFkuoG3eHoMeFtpTu3S which you refer to as Satoshi Nakamoto's BTC address has been receiving payments form other addresses. Does this mean Nakamto is still alive or is somebody else is using his address. The payments were too small and also on 05/05/2016 there were 18 transactions of 0.00022 sent repeatedly to the address. Looks like somebody was spamming his address    The last payment sent from his address was 01/12/2009 Goosebumps

Very interesting!
I checked address 12cbQLTFMXRnSzktFkuoG3eHoMeFtpTu3S and see that last payment 2017-09-05 14:38:11
After 2013 this address receive payment only.

Also interest fact, who use this address 1Q2TWHE3GMdB6BZKafqwxXtWAWgFt5Jvm3 now, if this own of Hal Finney? Last TX 2017-09-06 01

The nine year anniversary of the Bitcoin whitepaper being published reminded me of all the time I spent looking at the earliest portions of Bitcoin history back when I was in high school. The community has expanded a lot since then and so have my own skills so I figured I would go back and look at an early event that made history: that first payment of 10 BTC between Satoshi Nakamoto and Hal Finney.

The nature of the blockchain is that everyone can go and verify that this 10 BTC transaction actually took place. You can see it for yourself, right now, if you want. Here it is! You can see the date on it, 2009-01-12. The bitcoin network was merely a few days old at this point.

The 50 BTC this transactions spends is from coins mined to the address 12cbQLTFMXRnSzktFkuoG3eHoMeFtpTu3S. Now look at the recipients of the transaction: First is 1Q2TWHE3GMdB6BZKafqwxXtWAWgFt5Jvm3, which Hal Finney has said was an address of his. And then 12cbQLTFMXRnSzktFkuoG3eHoMeFtpTu3S again, which is Satoshi Nakamoto sending 40 BTC back to himself as change. If you look at the other payments in 12cbQLTFMXRnSzktFkuoG3eHoMeFtpTu3S's history, you'll see that Satoshi actually sent coins to quite a few people, probably from the cryptography mailing list, although Hal Finney (the first recipient) is the only one of them that has ever been identified.

Hal told Satoshi that he would send those 10 bitcoins back, but he had forgotten to do that before Satoshi disappeared. Hal was later diagnosed with ALS, and sold his bitcoins in mid 2013 to pay the medical bills. He passed away, proud of his influential involvement in bitcoin and cryptography in general, in 2014.

That's all pretty interesting. But, hold on, why did Satoshi choose to spend the bitcoins from block #9 in particular? Why not block 1, or block 100, or something? 9 seems sort of arbitrary. None of the other bitcoins that were confirmed at that point were ever spent.

I couldn't figure out the answer when I was young. But I think that I've found out now. The first version of the bitcoin wallet chose which coins were to be spent in a transaction based on the transaction ID the coins came from (actually by how many there are first, but in this case, all the transactions mined precisely 50 BTC, so that doesn't make a difference). The first payment to Hal Finney was in block 170, and newly mined bitcoins can only be spent after they have 101 confirmations, so only coins up to block 68 were spendable when the first payment happened. (Block 0 doesn't count, because the bitcoins it created are unspendable.)

I grabbed the transaction IDs for all the bitcoins mined from blocks 1 to 68 and sorted them. Sure enough, the coins from block 9 are right on top:
0437cd7f8525ceed2324359c2d0ba26006d92d856a9c20fa0241106ee5a597c9 Block #9
04391286b3aefbb5df4cdb515ac7fce7942525fa602e1d7757e90a4fd41a1e20 Block #40
0731f33cf07a2e5f749a2910c437a015968e1fc2ed79c95634829167db280c4f Block #63
0e3e2357e806b6cdb1f70b54c3a3a17b6714ee1f0e68bebb44a74b1efd512098 Block #1
1484c18ba443b13851098597d8cb6d49d5983eab63c53d6b0dcc565612e7ca6b Block #39
194c9715279d8626bc66f2b6552f2ae67b3df3a00b88553245b12bffffad5b59 Block #49
19521c62482ac299b37c8ae4eab67abd150e3c21dc66b7e2b0919444769ee2ed Block #55
20251a76e64e920e58291a30d4b212939aae976baca40e70818ceaa596fb9d37 Block #6
223b0620a8f1c1f23a2ebf8032ed11321b921017d01974e74cddd651319b5474 Block #34
230cf03a6ce420eaa42e3c64feebb47920f3470efb4323b4574b4b6e5a004f65 Block #27
27c4d937dca276fb2b61e579902e8a876fd5b5abc17590410ced02d5a9f8e483 Block #42
2b9905f06583c01454f10f720b5709e3b667c9dd3d9efc423c97b7e70afdc0c9 Block #32
2f5c03ce19e9a855ac93087a1b68fe6592bcf4bd7cbb9c1ef264d886a785894e Block #43
32edede0b7d0c37340a665de057f418df634452f6bb80dcb8a5ff0aeddf1158a Block #48
3b96bb7e197ef276b85131afd4a09c059cc368133a26ca04ebffb0ab4f75c8b8 Block #12*
3c0db11484606a63b04ef4b8adcd665655939d3932ab1ebe90d1dfc5f077ca95 Block #59
3c6f58905f06a9fe9b4313a88827c43dbfb0156fcc3b17bb311d51e8be6746f5 Block #53
439aee1e1aa6923ad61c1990459f88de1faa3e18b4ee125f99b94b82e1e0af5f Block #44
43c39b8b3728c6cb26fae0fc18803ca6cf43e15fde218e3dfbd54e633cf6753e Block #24
50748b7a193a0b23f1e9494b51131d2f954cc6cf4792bacc69d207d16002080d Block #15
540a7e54fd64478554519f1b2d643ecc888c5030631487f9cfc530b71d281309 Block #50
63522845d294ee9b0188ae5cac91bf389a0c3723f084ca1025e7d9cdfe481ce1 Block #5
67c1e8143bb6ad221a4ce77d6c8be68f2e25e0743f51b2db1a7b22bab59014dc Block #26
6d344eb5d67ed329a1c1d7603bba4b85d5916435b49f7a585bb370b76820287d Block #37
701ce76c033e0b03fa79503770a5874840373e30cd9c1eca472ec66617f3a3ee Block #62
82a1e1731a9b22fdea55c09f2fac191a89efee127956fcfef65caab70f54002d Block #60
852b1997ed935ba638078998e2d15bc8a91b8ad232e2d988e22c969eba3bafe0 Block #35
86b33edba8ff663b0f73ef487e4433f34d26ef91de15659d2cc09594d27b52cb Block #31
8aa673bc752f2851fd645d6a0a92917e967083007d9c1684f9423b100540673f Block #7
9635054e3de101ea39dcfa5f4cec63ceb1205db6e0a99304c8db2b3a162137e4 Block #58
9962d5c704ec27243364cbe9d384808feeac1c15c35ac790dffd1e929829b271 Block #13
999e1c837c76a1b7fbb7e57baf87b309960f5ffefbf2a9b95dd890602272f644 Block #3
9b0f52332d7d013b49016416c4818b5abb80b01ca526b7b813830348ad2321be Block #25
9b0fc92260312ce44e74ef369f5c66bbb85848f2eddd5a7a1cde251e54ccfdd5 Block #2
9b9e461221e5284f3bfe5656efdc8c7cc633b2f1beef54a86316bf2ae3a3e230 Block #19
9e2eaf1d7e5178a2d116f331c340f1f7fd6de7540783ac36a7054fe9a4d64943 Block #22
9efa6cb3b8cca3c9387144f397f80e7b4bc2dd86026fdd308625a2e100a08d5a Block #41
a09c89d2a31440658a42ec97aeee0d36b01529e45b315922e2aa2955334d1821 Block #51
a3e0b7558e67f5cadd4a3166912cbf6f930044124358ef3a9afd885ac391625d Block #17
a6f7f1c0dad0f2eb6b13c4f33de664b1b0e9f22efad5994a6d5b6086d85e85e3 Block #8
ae6eedf8e47ac6dda10ca9f3334bd3031795c55a124948003acd944ebd31fee1 Block #61
b17fc28c1dc15ca4b05bf4784419c145b14e79ece54c793656997984c4e46715 Block #67
b3f978e6ee5e91662af30a634b3f3268c6f5d34aac1eb54e6cc9535026f5084f Block #52
bc0f0f8b3235421a036122299db7046a00c3a7cd1d650de3d92969780b873728 Block #57
bdc5121446fd203abbf0e4d13fe99594dc3dc4c1cb95504feb459e8982d923be Block #68
bdeaa0089cd84670da5e6385f0185c2d7978bf57a1aa5540d3ff3b3eabaa1210 Block #33
c361e2f4581f035dd58b99788347884e046e47b4c17ec347344ff8b24cd377ec Block #29
d05d256fbd5845b30039e37d48215788a4e438249048c47ddb9c83cd927d4d5a Block #36
d17b9c9c609309049dfb9005edd7011f02d7875ca7dab6effddf4648bb70eff6 Block #47
d3ad39fa52a89997ac7381c95eeffeaf40b66af7a57e9eba144be0a175a12b11 Block #10
d3dc9be5d58809579e56cdd64e78257ecd24e2726cf26ef0a698f4e5c07670b5 Block #54
ddd4d06365155ab4caaaee552fb3d8643207bd06efe14f920698a6dd4eb22ffa Block #46
df2b060fa2e5e9c8ed5eaf6a45c13753ec8c63282b2688322eba40cd98ea067a Block #4
e0175970efb4417950921bfcba2a3a1e88c007c21232ff706009cc70b89210b4 Block #21
e1afd89295b68bc5247fe0ca2885dd4b8818d7ce430faa615067d7bab8640156 Block #14
e1cf3476234d8446653ad52a8939ed792003eefdcd0e897319ab9d2cb4c14c8c Block #23
e690daeb9f73d29d8a22cb4b5ec29970e9b32283d4376adeaad8691ccb449a68 Block #38
e79fc1dad370e628614702f048edc8e98829cf8ea8f6615db19f992b1be92e44 Block #16
ebdb8335d5b148e9cc1b1bb795ee619a649bd1638e5514fdfc3004b1c56fd6a4 Block #64*
ee1afca2d1130676503a6db5d6a77075b2bf71382cfdf99231f89717b5257b5b Block #20
f01d7897ca02ed20dfb5544b3c1228e225fd97b72510d40af6c9d8e489033a74 Block #66
f15c7c51118c1dc93129a9f4999c7768ef2ff8cda3230f56d32576518c5f9349 Block #65
f399cb6c5bed7bb36d44f361c29dd5ecf12deba163470d8835b7ba0c4ed8aebd Block #28
f5e26c8b82401c585235c572ba8265f16f7d9304ed8e31c198eab571754f5331 Block #30
f69778085f1e78a1ea1cfcfe3b61ffb5c99870f5ae382e41ec43cf165d66a6d9 Block #45
f8325d8f7fa5d658ea143629288d0530d2710dc9193ddc067439de803c37066e Block #11
f925f26deb2dc4696be8782ab7ad9493d04721b28ee69a09d7dfca51b863ca23 Block #18
fe9ccc6c8b44c67ab170135d4148d6424e748f7549547d8174d59b5127df0102 Block #56
*nobody actually knows if Satoshi mined blocks 12 or 64, but they're here anyway to be sure

Here's another fun fact. The 10 bitcoins Hal Finney got from the first payment weren't his first bitcoins. He actually mined block #78, so he already had 50 BTC that he had made himself before Satoshi sent him that payment. In 2014, Hal actually released a screenshot of his earliest transactions:

In this screenshot you can clearly see both the 50 he mined originally and the 10 he got from Satoshi. (He kept mining for a while after that!) Block 78 has another unsolved mystery, though. Its extraNonce parameter suggests that the person that mined block 78 also mined blocks 73 to 77, as you can see by the upward slope that they make when you plot blocks by extraNonce:

^{(The higher slope up there are blocks mined by Satoshi, and block 64 being way down there is the reason that we don't know if Satoshi mined it or not!)}

If we didn't know Hal mined block 78, and not blocks 73 to 77, we could infer from this chart a few things. First, Satoshi Nakamoto stopped mining after block 72, or restarted his miner, because the extraNonce slope ends there. Second, blocks 73 to 78 make a clear slope, highly suggestive that they were all found by the same person, be they Nakamoto or Finney, and in the same mining session. extraNonce can be wrong, and Hal claiming to have solved block 78 and not 73-77 suggests that it is. Is it just dumb luck that block 78 happened to look like it was on the same extraNonce slope as blocks 73-77? Why did Nakamoto stop mining right when Finney started? Additionally, there is a three hour gap between blocks 78 and 79. Why did Nakamoto wait for 3 hours after Finney stopped mining to start again? Was it just bad luck that it took so long to find a solution? These are unanswered questions. Feel free to speculate on what you think happened here!

Hopefully this was an interesting read, and happy bitcoin whitepaper anniversary!!!