Topic: Pennsylvania Catholic Church covers up 300 chomo priests (Read 531 times)

Lesson: Go after the soft target with money, the Catholic Church. Not the distributed little Protestant churches or the distributed Muslim operations. Then pick non-Catholics for the jury.

Surprisingly, Catholic opinion of the pope has not changed any more than Splendulus' opinion of Catholics...

I suppose people see what they want to see, and don't see what they don't want to see

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The topic is about catholic pedophiles... why do you keep posting off-topic nonsense?  ...  I have no problem if you want to open an Islamic pedophile hotline... good luck with that

I certainly agree. Would the hotlines be usable for Islamic perv clergy as well?

Or do you just want to focus on Catholic and ignore the tenfold higher endemic problem with Muslims?

I guess the wealth of the Vatican makes them a more INTERESTING TARGET from the point of view of avaricious lawyers.

Wait, what was the goal here?

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Keep in mind the hotline is just the beginning. The stories that come in will be investigated and they will have to be confirmed. It’s merely the first step in a long, difficult journey. But it’s also a step that many victims felt they couldn’t take until now (for a number of legitimate reasons).

All the more reasons for other states to set up their own hotlines — and to make sure they’re adequately staffed.

A hotline set up by New Jersey officials for citizens to report sexual abuse by priests was so overwhelmed with calls that the state had to assign more workers to the hotline — and people are still having trouble getting through.

New Jersey Attorney General Gurbir S. Grewal launched a special task force to look into allegations of sexual abuse within the state’s branches of the Catholic Church, and part of that included a call-in center for victims to give tips to investigators… and those tips haven’t stopped coming in.

    [Spokesman for the Division of Criminal Justice Peter Aseltine], who would not disclose how many calls have been received, said the state has taken steps to ensure that the hotline is adequately staffed. Calls yesterday to the toll-free number, (855) 363-6548, were being answered almost immediately.

    The move by New Jersey to set up a task force and hotline was taken in the wake of the explosive Pennsylvania grand jury report released in August, which detailed in graphic terms the sex abuse by hundreds of priests who had preyed upon children for decades.

    In an interview with NPR, Attorney General Gurbir S. Grewal said the response underscored the need to have hotlines across the country, “because I am certain that this abuse, given the pattern and practices that the Pennsylvania report identified, was not limited to the Northeast.”

Why was the line so overwhelmed? Perhaps because of how much Church leaders have downplayed the scandals and covered up for fellow priests. Perhaps because more people are willing to speak out when they believe investigators will actually take them seriously for once. Perhaps because people have seen what’s happened in Pennsylvania and Boston and have been waiting for the opportunity to tell someone their own stories. When people in power are honestly listening, it’s not surprising that stories will pour out of people who have been afraid to speak out.

Certain advocates for child abuse survivors already knew the Church’s power and secrecy were keeping some victims silent, so they predicted the hotline would be popular.

    Mark Crawford, the state director of the Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests, said he had anticipated there could well be a great many calls to the state’s hotline.

    “I suspect they are getting many calls from victims throughout the country who once lived here as a youngster and experienced clergy sexual abuse at that time,” he said. “I know this as I myself have received many calls — far more than the regular volume of survivors reaching out. Some in their 70’s who stated they had never spoken to someone, anyone of their abuse before now.”

Keep in mind the hotline is just the beginning. The stories that come in will be investigated and they will have to be confirmed. It’s merely the first step in a long, difficult journey. But it’s also a step that many victims felt they couldn’t take until now (for a number of legitimate reasons).

All the more reasons for other states to set up their own hotlines — and to make sure they’re adequately staffed.

Pointing your finger at another group does not make the catholics any less child molesty

This is commonly known as the False Equivalence Fallacy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_equivalence

Sorry, not sorry

Germany has joined the party!

Report: Over 3,600 Children in Germany Were Sexually Abused by Clergy
https://www.democracynow.org/2018/9/13/headlines/report_over_3_600_children_in_germany_were_sexually_abused_by_clergy

In Germany, a new report reveals that over 3,600 children have been sexually abused by clergy of the Catholic Church and that at least 1,670 clergy members have been involved in the abuse over the past seven decades. The report was commissioned by the German Roman Catholic Church Bishops’ Conference. It comes in the wake of a larger child sexual abuse scandal rocking the Catholic Church worldwide. On Wednesday, Pope Francis called for a conference at the Vatican in February with international heads of the church to discuss the crisis.

Funny that you call me a Muslim even though I condemn both groups for their actions...
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And if you've walked away from Islam, congratulations.

That's fine and dandy... I know your type, I've dealt with you plenty

You seriously think because you can come up with an example of another group doing similar or worse things than your group... that suddenly your group is the good one

Wrong

Both groups are evil.  Period.

I certainly don't condone child slavery in Afghanistan... only the bible would condone child slavery (true story)

I choose to speak about the Catholic church because it is happening within a few miles of my house.  Afghanistan is on the other side of the planet (and the reports are much less trustworthy).  Like Jesus said, "remove the log from your own eye before trying to remove the splinter from the eye of Afghanistan"

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Afghanistan has 5000 cases with a population of 35 million people.  Pennsylvania has >1000 cases with a population of 12 million people. ....

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It is a big jump to compare 5000 accusations of "gross human rights abuses" (where zero evidence was found/reported), with a 457 page report detailing over 1000 incidents of priests molesting children, providing facts and evidence for each case.

If Afghanistanians are guilty of molesting children, then they should go to prison too... I'm not biased in that regard, I just don't believe your story... I don't believe accusations without facts and evidence... I want proof, not accusations... It is too easy to lie about someone you dislike, and accuse them of something they did not do

It appears this is an endemic cultural practice in the Muslim world. To be fair, certain factions hold it is against Sharia law and should be banned.

But the extent of the problem in the Muslim world is mind boggling.

300 priests?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacha_bazi

According to a report published in June 2017 by the Special Inspector General for Afghanistan Reconstruction, the US military reported 5753 cases of "gross human rights abuses" by Afghan forces, many of which relating to sexual abuse.[36]

These cases lean toward the selling of young boys into sexual slavery.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/23/world/asia/afghanistan-military-abuse.html

ADORNED IN MAKEUP, fake breasts and bells, Jawed whirls around middle-aged men at Kabul’s underground bacha bazi, or “boy play” parties, where the former child sex slave finds freedom of sorts as a dancing boy.
Jawed was kidnapped by a former jihadi commander in Shomali, north of Kabul, when he was barely 14, a victim of a hidden epidemic in Afghanistan of culturally-sanctioned male rape.
He is one of three former “bachas” traced by AFP who managed to escape their abusers.
Their testimonies shed searing light on the stolen lives of boy sex slaves, often seen as caricatures of shame and cast out of their families, with many like Jawed falling prey to a new cycle of abuse.
Four years after he was kidnapped, Jawed’s commander replaced him with a new boy slave, and “gifted” him to another strongman.

I haven't heard of any Catholic priests doing that...

Let's ignore the plight of tens of thousands TODAY, and instead focus on how bad the Catholic Church was.

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I have read about a curious affinity of the men in Afghanistan for young boys. I assume it's a subset of all men. But they certainly are not being punished.

Some weird reason like the "young boys are not men so it isn't homosexual."

Well, for sane folks like us here who don't own a prison dictionary I felt it was a spelling error of 'Homo'. Thumbs up for the head-on. Come to think of it, the Catholic Church has always been enmeshed in sex scandals of recent. It could be because more virile young men are now absorbed into the seminaries and theological schools. These encaged lust and huge sexual appetites will always seek an outlets for expression. For these pervert priests, they rather stick it in a male than a female to avoid pregnancy talks. Come to think of it, I don't even know why priests don't get married. There's nowhere in the Bible that advises such thing as celibacy. Absolutely, nowhere!

Sorry, chomo is prison slang for child molestor, i.e. pedophile...
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=chomo

It's not a problem for them. Child molestation isn't something new.
*You know what I mean

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I agree, but while we're at it let's extend that to all the Muslim pervs as well.
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I really do hope that everyone in power in the Catholic church sees some penalties and such -- I'd also LOVE to see these people go to trial.

I would go further then calling it a habit, I would say this that is a systamatic problem inside the Cathloic church as they try to keep their image up.

Movie recommendation for anyone interested : Check out Spotlight - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1895587/ - This is a movie about how the Boston Globe broke the story in the 2000's about how the Catholic church was covering up massive scandals (pretty much what's coming out now again)

I really do hope that everyone in power in the Catholic church sees some penalties and such -- I'd also LOVE to see these people go to trial.

The Catholic Church have a habit of spiriting away (the only spirit they actually know) offending priests during their "internal investigation" allowing the monster to molest more kids in the unsuspecting new parish. That practice must be automatically considered obstruction of justice.

LMAO, much like Cersei's Walk of Atonement. Shame! Shame!

I believe the pope and cardinals understand the scope of the problem.  They realize thousands of priests are pedophiles, maybe tens of thousands.  They would have to admit corruption and collusion that leads all the way to the pope.

They don't have a solution either.  They could fire all the pedophiles, but that is like 25%+ of their priests.  And, it wouldn't fix the problem, more pedophiles would show up to replace them.

The problem is the prohibition against marriage of priests.  They would have to change that policy to reduce the number of pedophile priests

I don't understand why they cover it and not just simply reform.
It makes me wonder whether the churches are really run by the "chomos" or they are just ignorant.

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Ya want them running around naked?

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I want people held accountable for their crimes, that is what I want.

Okay, so the Catholic Church covered those pervs up.

Whadd'ya want?

Ya want them running around naked?

But yes, I do agree with at least one point in this -- I agree that the priests in the church should be allowed to marry. I don't really understand why they aren't allowed to do this already, but maybe someone can enlighten me on the issues of them getting married or something along these lines.

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The Catholic church needs to reform in this modern day. It just doesn't make any sense that a priest cannot get married like any sane person. That's why in my opinion, only pedophile and gay will become a priest. Just allow marriage so they won't gather in the church and misuse God's name to do molestation. I've watched so many documentaries about this issue and it's so disturbing.

Haha, as this post opened up, I was trying to figure out what kind of priest a "chomo" priest is. I thought maybe it's something I hadn't heard of. I guess you meant homo, as in homosexual. I guess it would be more accurate to call them pedophiles. Bisexual pedophiles maybe? Since they were doing it with boys and girls. This is sickening news, but sadly, it's hardly news. There have been so many abuse scandals within the Catholic church that it's ridiculous. I feel like there really need to be some new measure put in place. There needs to be some church-wide independent investigations. The church is pretty rich though and they have great lawyers that seem good at covering things up.

Haha, as this post opened up, I was trying to figure out what kind of priest a "chomo" priest is. I thought maybe it's something I hadn't heard of. I guess you meant homo, as in homosexual. I guess it would be more accurate to call them pedophiles...

"There have been other reports about child sex abuse within the Catholic Church. But never on this scale,"

A new grand jury report says that internal documents from six Catholic dioceses in Pennsylvania show that more than 300 "predator priests" have been credibly accused of sexually abusing more than 1,000 child victims.
"We believe that the real number of children whose records were lost or who were afraid ever to come forward is in the thousands," the grand jury report says.
"Priests were raping little boys and girls, and the men of God who were responsible for them not only did nothing; they hid it all. For decades. Monsignors, auxiliary bishops, bishops, archbishops, cardinals have mostly been protected; many, including some named in this report, have been promoted."
The lengthy report, released Tuesday afternoon, investigates clergy sexual abuse daying back to 1947 in six dioceses: Allentown, Erie, Greensburg, Harrisburg, Pittsburgh and Scranton.

Pennsylvania's two other dioceses, Philadelphia and Altoona-Johnstown, have been the subjects of earlier grand jury reports, which found similarly damaging information about clergy and bishops in those dioceses.
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