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Topic: "Pirate" ponzi simulation (Read 2705 times)

hero member
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May 29, 2012, 08:50:24 AM
#30
2 PMs to you re an account & no reply as yet I believe, did this already start yesterday or is it next Monday?  Huh
inau is cashing out
donator
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May 29, 2012, 08:45:47 AM
#29
2 PMs to you re an account & no reply as yet I believe, did this already start yesterday or is it next Monday?  Huh
donator
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May 28, 2012, 12:42:24 AM
#28
I'm curious how this would turn out with a ridiculously high interest rate, like 40%

If I started an identical game (changing only the interest) who would be interested?

Ponzi!
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/mmm-2011-hugest-ponzi-scheme-bitcoins-accepted-77276?
legendary
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Merit: 1000
What's a GPU?
May 27, 2012, 05:55:00 PM
#27
I'm curious how this would turn out with a ridiculously high interest rate, like 40%

If I started an identical game (changing only the interest) who would be interested?

Ponzi!
member
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May 27, 2012, 05:45:39 PM
#26
So who's throwing down 200 BTC and pulling out after the first week for an easy profit of 20 BTC?
legendary
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Strength in numbers
May 27, 2012, 12:59:37 PM
#25
This could so easily be gamed... have a group of "investors" all deposit huge amounts at exactly the same time hack. Wait for exactly the same period of time, say 15 weekly cycles... bank the 150% return on investment, and then all call for withdrawal at the same moment. Some would get paid, some would not, but everyone would be ahead, at least 50%, and if it was organized right, they could pool the payout which would be the original investment at least, so that nobody would be hurt, and all would gain.

Bingo, instant magic bitcoins! Yay!

Lol, since you know this is going to last 15 weeks maybe forget the crew and just get rich yourself?

edit: I'm only trying to patch your system so that you sink alone, arrrr
donator
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May 26, 2012, 03:13:10 PM
#24
lol, I like it & am going to throw some coins at it, when it eventually does go TU will you be posting the history of it all, deposits, withdrawals, interest payed, balances etc (I'm happy to be openly ID-ed) - perhaps then I could claim my reckless ponzi gamble as academic research Wink - PMing now for an account
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bitcoin hundred-aire
donator
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May 25, 2012, 03:26:49 PM
#22
Are you yourself allowed to participate?
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May 25, 2012, 02:29:07 PM
#21
first "deposit," arrrr! Grin
sr. member
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May 25, 2012, 10:53:50 AM
#20
Well, crew seemed apropos given the Pirate theme, arrr!

And sorry about that whole 15 weeks being instant thing. I had my geologic time Rolex on, and that kind of thing keeps happening to me.
hero member
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May 25, 2012, 10:48:40 AM
#19
Wait for [...] 15 weekly cycles...
Bingo, instant magic bitcoins!
emphasis mine
hero member
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May 25, 2012, 10:42:13 AM
#18
Looks like Bitcoinduit needs to be updated to include Pirate-style ponzis Smiley
donator
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May 25, 2012, 10:22:24 AM
#17
Doing it!
donator
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Poor impulse control.
May 25, 2012, 10:20:50 AM
#16
You just want to suggest this so you can get a crew together ... and then pull out after 14 weeks. It's the only sensible move.
sr. member
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May 25, 2012, 10:18:32 AM
#15
This could so easily be gamed... have a group of "investors" all deposit huge amounts at exactly the same time hack. Wait for exactly the same period of time, say 15 weekly cycles... bank the 150% return on investment, and then all call for withdrawal at the same moment. Some would get paid, some would not, but everyone would be ahead, at least 50%, and if it was organized right, they could pool the payout which would be the original investment at least, so that nobody would be hurt, and all would gain.

Bingo, instant magic bitcoins! Yay!
vip
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Don't send me a pm unless you gpg encrypt it.
May 25, 2012, 09:45:45 AM
#14
why not do this on testnet?

Because with testnet, you can generate 50 bitcoins in about 30 seconds.  People would start mining on it and drive up difficulty, making it more difficult for people legitimately trying to use testnet for client transactions, pool software, etc
full member
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May 25, 2012, 09:44:40 AM
#13
why not do this on testnet?
hero member
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bitcoin hundred-aire
May 25, 2012, 09:38:10 AM
#12
lol, increased to 10%
donator
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May 25, 2012, 08:46:08 AM
#11
Why not to do it that way. You take money and deposit it to pirate. You write down every single BTC you get and every Withdrawal/interest payment.
When your withdrawal+interest gets bigger, you report that and give everyone their money back, and interest you keep to your self)
donator
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Poor impulse control.
May 25, 2012, 08:25:26 AM
#10
I don't think this should be called '"Pirate" ponzi simulation'. Try instead '"Playing chicken in my father's Ferrari, blindfold" simulation'.
vip
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Don't send me a pm unless you gpg encrypt it.
May 25, 2012, 08:22:11 AM
#9
inau, your rates suck! Cheesy

Make it way higher.

At LEAST 10%.
N12
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May 25, 2012, 08:21:22 AM
#8
inau, your rates suck! Cheesy

Make it way higher.
donator
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Merit: 250
May 25, 2012, 08:16:21 AM
#7
Are you yourself allowed to participate?
sr. member
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"Yes I am a pirate, 200 years too late."
May 25, 2012, 08:14:18 AM
#6
Oh yummy yummy I wanna play.
newbie
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May 25, 2012, 08:04:28 AM
#5
Is this suppose to be a less -visible- bitcoinduit? 
donator
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May 25, 2012, 05:42:03 AM
#4
The winning strategy (for everyone) is: don't withdraw, but make sure you withdraw before everyone else.
legendary
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What's a GPU?
May 25, 2012, 12:36:00 AM
#3
Doing it Cheesy
donator
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May 25, 2012, 12:09:24 AM
#2
2. I will be crediting 7% a week, on Mondays.  You get partial interest if you deposited after Monday.  You may only deposit/withdraw on Mondays.

Why would anyone use this if they could instead get the same interest rate with pirate, with the added benefit that he might not actually be running a ponzi?

Maybe you should up the interest rates? Like a "Super-Pirate" or a "Double-Pirate" ponzi...
hero member
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May 24, 2012, 11:25:51 PM
#1
Pirate is in quotes; I don't think he is running a ponzi.  This is an experiment.

0. Wallet starts at 0 BTC.
1. You can open an account by PMing me.  Deposits grow my ponzi wallet balance.
2. I will be crediting 10% a week, on Mondays.  You get partial interest if you deposited after Monday.  You may only deposit/withdraw on Mondays.
3. I will not actually be making any money to pay this "interest."  When I run out of money in my ponzi wallet (and only then), I will post publicly that the experiment has ended and I am bankrupt.
4. Last withdrawal request is filled by however much money is left in my ponzi wallet at the time.


Due to an obvious demand, I have increased the interest rate to 10%!
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