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September 11, 2013, 03:41:02 AM
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Seems like the crisis is being averted

They wanted to attack Syria even before whole chemical weapons ordeal. They will find another cause, even if Assad personally gives them all his stash. But I believe time is bought, and that's good. Clever idea, whomever came up with it, great job.
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What makes you think this is the "spark"?

If you look at large conflicts historically, many small conflicts run up to the larger conflict. I'd say we've met that bar for many years. If anything, this is a run away train that's shootings sparks every which way at this point.

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Eventually, one of those sparks in going to fall into a crater filled with TNT. Not sure Syria is that crater, but the world seems to be growing weary of getting burned by reckless sparks.
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What makes you think this is the "spark"?

If you look at large conflicts historically, many small conflicts run up to the larger conflict. I'd say we've met that bar for many years. If anything, this is a run away train that's shootings sparks every which way at this point.
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perhaps for now. we'll see what Obomber says in a few hours on TV. maybe he pulls a Bush and goes behind congress' backs.
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Seems like the crisis is being averted
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This one killed me.
Nobel peace prize committee discredited itself that day.
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America hasn't been able to afford any war for quite some time, and the more wars they get into, the more debt they accrue, the faster their demise, so of course it's in the interest of other nations to continue fueling America's war games.
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Foreigners!  R ur lasers charged?  This Clown Crusade planned for anytime soon?  Ring me before settin' out from ur backwater country, pl0x.  I wanna be totally prepped on mah front porch -- with popcorn, booze & opera glasses -- don't wanna miss any of the drama! Grin

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P.P.S:  Plz bring a light snack.  I'm tired of feeding you, no food and visas 4u.  No begging, no exceptions.
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First of all there is no chemical weapons used. Turkish government (The puppet of the USA) want to attack Syria but still waiting order from Obama.
We as Turkish people don't want to have war with any country.
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That being said further investigation needs to be done by a reliable third party with absolute honesty and openness to the public.

Where exactly will you find this mythical entity?

I would try my best to do it if you gave me 25,000 BTC!

Of course for that kind of money you could hire a whole team of professionals, which unlike me have actual experience and journalism degrees....
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Probably will be a catalyst for a Russian & Chinese invasion/liberation of the US if this does happen, along with a few targeted drone strikes on places like the Westboro Baptist Church.

The silver lining.
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Probably will be a catalyst for a Russian & Chinese invasion/liberation of the US if this does happen, along with a few targeted drone strikes on places like the Westboro Baptist Church.
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If everyone pulls the rug, they will not get any of their money back.

I believe they currently realize they're never getting their money back; America, with its mighty army, has no intention of pulling out of debt.  I believe this is the point; I believe those other nations did this intentionally.
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That being said further investigation needs to be done by a reliable third party with absolute honesty and openness to the public.

Where exactly will you find this mythical entity?
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There is one point that I agree with. The use of chemical weapons in warfare can't go unpunished.

That being said further investigation needs to be done by a reliable third party with absolute honesty and openness to the public.

Another war is just what the US economy needs.

Even the missiles cost way too much money.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/incoming/last-ghost-of-the-vietnam-war/article1057457/?page=all
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Usa needs to punish them and kill them syria people. They are up to no good.
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Not to mention almost every world currency is tied at the hip with USD...
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With just a few battleships and people inside U.S. intelligence leaking their positions it might not be wise to strike.

The question is: Can America afford attacking Syria with more than that?

Drones are relatively inexpensive.
They already blew a lot of money feeding rebels and their spies.
You don't just walk away.

What it boils down to is, when do America's lenders cut them off?  America doesn't have squat anymore, and they won't ever have it again until they literally collapse and start society over again.  America's entire military is borrowed from people who expect them to repay them someday, or perhaps are knowingly fueling America until they destroy themselves--anyway, America hasn't been able to afford any war for quite some time, and the more wars they get into, the more debt they accrue, the faster their demise, so of course it's in the interest of other nations to continue fueling America's war games.

So, yes, America can always 'afford' more wars, until other nations agree that it's time to pull the rug from under them, and then it's game over.  If America won't use more of its military against Syria, it's because they're saving it for bigger fish, and so Syria is just a distraction at that point.  But remember all those nuke-carrying submarines America has across the globe in unknown spots of the ocean; wonder if they'll use those in a last-ditch effort to retain control once the rug is pulled, or if that's one reason why the rug hasn't been by now.

If everyone pulls the rug, they will not get any of their money back.
Nukes are a good point too.
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Well how the Russians are playing it they should just borrow a page from the US playbook and call it a UN crisis of human rights, against the government of Syria since the UN is not going to move on this issue for now.
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There is one point that I agree with. The use of chemical weapons in warfare can't go unpunished.

That being said further investigation needs to be done by a reliable third party with absolute honesty and openness to the public.

Another war is just what the US economy needs.

Even the missiles cost way too much money.
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I'm not one to dab with politics nor glen beck, but hes right...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CG4gXCRyv_A

Make love, not war.
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With just a few battleships and people inside U.S. intelligence leaking their positions it might not be wise to strike.

The question is: Can America afford attacking Syria with more than that?

Drones are relatively inexpensive.
They already blew a lot of money feeding rebels and their spies.
You don't just walk away.

What it boils down to is, when do America's lenders cut them off?  America doesn't have squat anymore, and they won't ever have it again until they literally collapse and start society over again.  America's entire military is borrowed from people who expect them to repay them someday, or perhaps are knowingly fueling America until they destroy themselves--anyway, America hasn't been able to afford any war for quite some time, and the more wars they get into, the more debt they accrue, the faster their demise, so of course it's in the interest of other nations to continue fueling America's war games.

So, yes, America can always 'afford' more wars, until other nations agree that it's time to pull the rug from under them, and then it's game over.  If America won't use more of its military against Syria, it's because they're saving it for bigger fish, and so Syria is just a distraction at that point.  But remember all those nuke-carrying submarines America has across the globe in unknown spots of the ocean; wonder if they'll use those in a last-ditch effort to retain control once the rug is pulled, or if that's one reason why the rug hasn't been by now.
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With just a few battleships and people inside U.S. intelligence leaking their positions it might not be wise to strike.

The question is: Can America afford attacking Syria with more than that?

Drones are relatively inexpensive.
They already blew a lot of money feeding rebels and their spies.
You don't just walk away.
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Plausible? It's almost definite a military strike of some sort will take place.... the fact that Obama has come out and mentioned that he ought to go back and ask congress to get their opinion means nothing.  They will strike without going to congress.  A big F@CK U to the very essence of democracy in itself. 

What happened to governments being elected on democratic values?  The opinions of the american people dont even come into the picture.  How sad. 
The politicans whom the american people 'trust' are sadly untrustworthy. 

Iraq, we were fed the same b.s
Libya, much of the same.
Syria... here we go again... same olde b.s being fabricated and green lights being given regardless of what the majority of people think. 

Democrafuckingwhat?
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With just a few battleships and people inside U.S. intelligence leaking their positions it might not be wise to strike.

The question is: Can America afford attacking Syria with more than that?
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CIA probably did the Chemical attack to give der Führer Obama reason to start war with Syria.

I think the CIA is working for the president (at least in the US)
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CIA probably did the Chemical attack to give der Führer Obama reason to start war with Syria.
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Now that US concludes that Assad regime used chemical weapons, what do you think would be course of action by US.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-08-28/obama-concludes-assad-carried-out-chemical-attack

The Russians save the day by adding more Risperidone to the US' water supply?

I was given risperidone for Bipolar depression. There is something seriously wrong about psychiatrists in the US.


I bet the US will fuck Syria up like it has done with so many countries before. Do they have oil? Who knows? Is the US government corrupt? Hell yes.


If there is the slightest corporate interest to destabilize the current system in Syria you can be almost certain that the US government and military will be steered in this course of action.
It's only a matter of time until corporate interests become clear.


What if it was a corporation that did the chemical strikes?    US intelligence says they are not certain the regime used the weapons and I really doubt that the rebels did it.

As much as I hate conspiracy theories based on no evidence this needs to be investigated further. The US government needs to be much more open to review about the events that happened in Syria. We also need more well organized journalists that we can trust on the ground.
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Obama should attack Syria and kill most of them.

Here in Nigeria, nobody likes Syrian people.
Obama has Nigeria's support.

Troll..
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Obama should attack Syria and kill most of them.

Here in Nigeria, nobody likes Syrian people.
Obama has Nigeria's support.
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Iraq war version 2.0 will happen
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Now that US concludes that Assad regime used chemical weapons, what do you think would be course of action by US.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-08-28/obama-concludes-assad-carried-out-chemical-attack


Cruise missile strike(s).
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@BunworthBanshee: only uninformed retards believe the chemical weapons attack was launched by Assad. You know, even the ONU said there was no proof that he did it...

For him to use those weapons would be so fucking illogical, yet some will believe that. Or pretend to believe that, does not matter really.


I see it like that: mercenaries rebels are losing too much money their ground so their masters resort to staging a chemical attack, maybe even pay some loyalist soldiers to do that. And the shitstorm begins.
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@BunworthBanshee: only uninformed retards believe the chemical weapons attack was launched by Assad. You know, even the ONU said there was no proof that he did it...

I say it is likely. The strategy seems to be an attempt to bait Iran into joining the conflict in order to justify full scale invasion of Iran.

Don't think the president wants to be impeached. Doubtful that we'll see American boots on the ground. Wouldn't surprise me to see some Drones going in though. What a mess this is turning out to be.

Iran might be the final goal, but its just too early. I'd bet that before trying to go against Iran the USA needs first to control also Syria, Lebanon, Somalia and Sudan.
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I say it is likely. The strategy seems to be an attempt to bait Iran into joining the conflict in order to justify full scale invasion of Iran.

Don't think the president wants to be impeached. Doubtful that we'll see American boots on the ground. Wouldn't surprise me to see some Drones going in though. What a mess this is turning out to be.
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I say it is likely. The strategy seems to be an attempt to bait Iran into joining the conflict in order to justify full scale invasion of Iran.
Full scale invasion of Iran? Yeah, and next full scale invasion of China and American walks on the sun.
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I find it amazing how easy it is for the world to believe that Assad done this. Just put up a few images and that's it fact. Have any of you got family in Syria? NO because its bullshit this was not Assad it was the so called rebels.

Ask yourself this, if you where Assad and you knew only to well, that the war mongering US and its puppy dog allies where only itching to invade, why? what possible reason would you use the one thing that would give them reason to attack? Honestly would you do it if you where him? Think about it?

This is just pure propaganda bulshit, most of the so called rebels in Syria are Muslim extremists looking to build a state that will harbor anti western terrorists, the same people will gladly get in a plane tomorrow and kill any US or westerner.

WAKE UP and stop just believing the box in the corner of your rooms. Its all about Iran, remove Iran's No.1 ally and she is weaker. Ready for concurring.

Oh and mark my word's next year after they Finnish with Syria. No doubt Iran will start using Weapons Of Mass destruction. Now where have I heard that before?HuhHuhHuh

Look at who your helping bring freedom and democracy to, WAKE UP, this is nothing but an attempt to save the petro dollar.
http://youtu.be/TaLsIBHEvXI

and before anybody says anything i have first hand experience from my family in Turkey, who contrary to western media, most people in Turkey do not support the Rebels, nor Assad, just the people of Syria.

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Now that US concludes that Assad regime used chemical weapons, what do you think would be course of action by US.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-08-28/obama-concludes-assad-carried-out-chemical-attack

The US will just bomb Syria and send some random drone attacks to make sure nobody else dies. You know, its all about innocent people and their lives, its a humanitarian mission - as usual!

Glad Obama is such a smart, game-changing president with a very big heart (yes, we can!), and not that cold-blooded Bush psycho who was just into oil and $$$.

On a serious note: I think they might throw some bombs and wait and see, they might just be checking out Russia's and Iran's reaction. IMO there is no way they would ever go for a terrestrial occupation as per Iraq or Afghanistan, Hezbollah is too strong in Syria and they have plenty of money and weapons. US population ("the tax payers") are fed up of war, most do not buy that was indeed Al Assad who used chemical weapons as the ONU said there was no proof whatsoever, so the US cannot definitely afford another Iraq/Afghanistan... Or Vietnam. In my opinion they are just "testing the waters".

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I say it is likely. The strategy seems to be an attempt to bait Iran into joining the conflict in order to justify full scale invasion of Iran.
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Now that US concludes that Assad regime used chemical weapons, what do you think would be course of action by US.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-08-28/obama-concludes-assad-carried-out-chemical-attack

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Now that US concludes that Assad regime used chemical weapons, what do you think would be course of action by US.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-08-28/obama-concludes-assad-carried-out-chemical-attack
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