Topic: Please explain the ban reason (Read 904 times)

What exactly do you think is trolling? Are you sure you understand the meaning of the word "trolling"


I think it’s a big luck that you are not a moderator here.

Are you the mod that banned him?

And above is the evidence for the required ban?

Moderator provided an explanation. Let's say that absolves you for asking the question there. But you're continuing to troll the Russian board even though it's clear that Russian moderators won't lift your ban. Obvious ban evasion is obvious.

I'm not planning to report you for that but you're clearly not interested in following the rules so I'm starting to think that your temp ban and perhaps a permanent one would be quite deserved.

suchmoon is a known troll, do not trust him. He can read Russian fluently and he perfectly understands the context that you cannot understand.


Just take a look at head of the forum guidelines: Unofficial list of ...
Moderator is an official but guide is unofficial. Do you realize a difference?

Appealing the ban in one single meta thread is fine.
But suchmoon pointed out that you are also posing in the local board which might get you banned.

Just take a look at the forum guidelines:

Can you read Russian well?

For those who are not very good at reading Russian, translate:

If this is not permission to discuss my ban, then what is it?

AFAIK there is no kind of permission to evade a ban.
If a moderator allows ban evasion, i really wonder how he even got to be a moderator. This seems sketchy.

I do this with the approval of the moderator
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.54387139


This statement is true for my account as well as for your

You're evading your ban, which may get you a permanent one: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.54388899

It was quite obvious that your account had no purpose other than trolling but thanks for proving it conclusively.

Nevermind.

You really dont understand the rules at all

Are you read the topic or just work for your signature here?
I have already answer to "a member of staff" and I hope to get an answer from him. And can you say something useful?

Are you trolling?

Come on man, a member of staff has already stated the problem.
Just follow his advice and the rules?
Cant be that hard? 

Maybe you just have a monitor width ten times its height?
https://www.samsung.com/us/computing/monitors/gaming/49--chg90-qled-gaming-monitor-lc49hg90dmnxza/

You shouldn't assume that.

Just because some of your posts don't break the forum rules, this doesn't mean that they add anything to the forum.
Most of them are just extremely low effort posts.

Almost all of them are one-liner. Do you really think this means "doing everything right" ?

You right. Every time when my post is deleted I adjust my behavior on the forum. When posts are not deleted then for me it is a signal that I'm doing everything right


How do you think about: Is it will better if my account "~DefaultTrust" will writing about like "bitcoin will grow" and "~~DefaultTrust" will writing "bitcoin will down". This is all my minds.

Normaly it should be already a signal for you when a post or a thread gets deleted from you !
You will or should get a pm notification when a post or thread from you got deleted !

According from Bpip : For your Account are Posts deleted by moderators: 16
Guess this should be are enough Signal or !


How many Accounts you have ?
Hopefully not each for every mind 

Thank you for the answer. Can you explain please: if my posts are low values then why you still have not deleted them?
When my posts are deleted, it serves as a signal that I'm doing something wrong. How do you rate the quality of the post?
Or the problem is that sometimes I can change my mind to the opposite? Is it be better if I will posting all my mind's from different accounts?

Enough trolling, give them example from your post history. About growing...
Example 1:
Topic Пoчeмy биткoйн бyдeт pacти дaльшe (Translation: Why Bitcoin will keep growing)
Translation: "Bitcoin will keep growing because inflation drives up all the currencies."
Translation: "There are many fundamental reasons for the growth of bitcoin. The speculative component plays an important role here. But the key to growth, in my view, is that people are increasingly aware of what this technology is and how useful it can be."
Translation: "I don’t think Bitcoin is going to grow very much in the near future. Judging by the trends, the course now is at the peak of which either a flat or a turn. It’s time for the traders to lock down."
Translation: "I think Bitcoin is going to grow because of the upcoming reward for the block. And if you look back at the previous one, it led to a sharp rise in the price of 20k dollars. Let’s see. It’s not much longer."
Translation: "Interestingly, the author was referring to the growth in what period? If you look at the stock charts, you can see that the bitcoin grows and falls. If long-term growth is meant, the reason for the increase is a constant increase in the difficulty of extraction and thus in the cost of production. The price cannot be lower than cost."

Looks like you just reworded what was written in the subject before and added low value posts.

It looks logical. But I would like to see a comment from administration: Is it forbidden to post to thread if the post is not offtopic but out of context (as it described above)?

Look at example:

start post: bitcoin will grow because will halving.
post 2: halving does not affect growth because: fact1, fact2
post 3: halving affects growth because: fact3, fact4
post 4: I think this we can not get a consensus because: fact5, fact6
post 5: I agree that bitcoin will grow because will halving: fact2

So "post 6" is a spam and author should be banned?

is this burst?

Agree, The username with a ~ should not be allowed in the forum it might create some software bugs in the distrust/trust lists or maybe not but we never know, the forums is not perfect.

either this ~DefaultTrust since it has bad feedback something like impersonating the DefaultTrust.

I'm not sure how much QA testing theymos has done with the distrust/trust lists but hopefully it can handle the edge cases of strange character interactions with backslashes and tildes in one's name.

Not sure if you can even register with something like \\~\~~DefaultTrust but surely it looks like it might have a chance to break something

Thanks for the info.

Justs wondering If his new account was banned then he will create a new one and name it ~~~DefaultTrust and so on. ~~~~~~~~~


I guess you just have a bunch of low-quality posts that would make you a spammer, maybe the moderator makes a decision at your account also I think you already notice a lot of negative feedback because of your username.

You've got it the other way 'round:

"If you want to trust someone whose name begins with a tilde, prefix their name with a backslash."

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It's as easy as
~~DefaultTrust
~~~DefaultTrust

As stupid as it looks.

Backslash is only to get rid of the intended meaning of the tilde, which is to distrust... and since you're not looking to trust "~[...]" but rather distrust, you needn't use a backslash.

OK, I tried to distrust ~DefaultTrust previously with the \~DefaultTrust but it didn't look to have worked.  How do I ~ both ~DefaultTrust and ~~DefaultTrust ??

Just to clarify, this is the pertinent rule: "No zero or low value, pointless or uninteresting posts or threads"

Really, it casts a large enough net/umbrella to catch most of the varied forms of spam. Burst posting is merely an action that one performs to create multiple spam posts.
A spam post could be deemed so due to the context of the thread:

Suppose there are already 10 replies, of which highlight similar solutions or remarks about the given topic. If you decide to write an 11th reply and fail to add anything of substance that is novel, then you are merely repeating the previous replies in the thread and thereby not contributing to the discussion. Thus, insubstantial quality - multiple posts of this kind in quick succession would likely be considered "burst posting".

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Pedantry does get tiresome, doesn't it?

I think the OP focused only WHAT IS PUBLISHED without further browsing the whole forum. He may scheme some threads, but haven't understand the whole purpose of the forum itself, making him doubtful why his actions are implicitly forbidden / punishable by ban in the forum. And no wonder why the management nor other old users here doesn't even bother helping him, as his actions and posting style seems to be carried out of anger and hate to the forum's written rules itself.

What are you talking about? It is forbidden to write what I think? Really? Are we in North Korea???


OK. Realized. It seems I have violated secret forum rules:
1. It is forbidden to write here what you think
2. It is strongly forbidden to write here if you are not asked anything.

Thank you for clarification!


You're wrong here.

Definitely I believe there is a warning sign of how you will post in the forum. This is not a chat room where you just come start posting any how even saying what is not making sense. You really have to follow rules in other words understand what Bitcointalk is all about before you start posting.

Aren't you wondering why there are a lot of users in here whom the activities and post counts are too far from one another? Because this forum isn't like any other social media you are addicted to, like twitter. This is a forum. A simple "forum" word simply means a place of exchanging ideas and thoughts, not EVERY THING you can think of. I just wonder why are you so mad that there are no written nor published rules about the burst posting that could lead to ban, as if you posted certain topics that has sense at all nor contributes some answers or even questions. Also, not all "low quality" posts are deleted, as not all posts had attention. In which cases, depends on how often you post in a certain period of time. Which makes it all clear that burst posting + low quality of posts = cannot be deleted early.

Stop your tantrums. You already violated another rule, which is ban evasion.

I think for banning there is a main reason which is low level post such as favourite colour,fav. car, how are you etc. This happens make this forum very funny. so,please cannot low level post.

Actually there's no such rule about that, the forum system automatically prevents you from submitting posts in a small period of time, which decreases as your Activity goes up.

If it is forbidden to write two posts with an interval of three minutes, then it probably need to write about this in the rules? I did not know about this restriction. Thank you for telling me about this secret rule.


Okay, so I got banned for one low-quality post? I did not know about such strict rules.

I'll show you.  


This is:
(Note: Check the timestamps)



Not forbidden by the rules, but it is frowned upon, if you are writing one after another within a couple of minutes.


This is:



It is not necessary for a mod to delete all the messages of a user if they are about to ban him. So, only because the mod who banned you did not delete all your messages it doesn't mean that they are not of low quality.

I don't see message on BPIP that you're banned. Either information wasn't updated yet or you just got temporary ban. I haven't checked your post history, so I can't say anything about your post quality. So, I think only mod can tell you why exactly did he banned you.
I don't think thst this topic works as feeding the troll...

Is it really necessary to reply here? Don't feed the troll. The username says all.

I am not a mod and I do not know exactly why you are banned. But I can understand why you are banned but not many posts are deleted  
If your article is not off-topic, its removal rate will be very low   And here you are banned because of low quality, which means your posts are not off-topic, it might be some bullshit, I don't know, but it's low quality. Anyway, it's just a temporary ban, I think you don't need to create another account to appeal like this  

Yes I know that this is a temp ban. But I think that bans should have preventive goals.
Therefore, I would like to know: what exactly did I do wrong?

Looks like it is not a permanent ban. Bpip shows no info that you are banned so you probably received a 7 or 14 days temporary ban. The modlog shows that two of your recent posts have been deleted. I can't comment on your posts because I don't speak Russian.

You have quite a few meaningless one-two-liners in spam megathreads. I wouldn't ban for it but I'm not a moderator.

It's a temp ban, I'm sure you'll survive it.

I don't see any specific examples of low quality posts in your post history. If some of them were deleted, I am sure you would have got notification about it.

I can see some posts with less time gap between them ( mostly of some minutes ) but still I don't think that would count as post busting.

I can see just two of your replies deleted recently in the modlog.

Burst posting means that you posting a lot of (low quality posts) or (off topic in threads) in a short time  !
If you doing that only to increase your activity or post count to maybe rank up it can be seen as burst posting too.
Bots have done that too in the past to keep the threads on top of the page where they posting.

Also maybe its possible because of your Username or a other reason!

But you have to wait for a Moderator or Global Moderator to tell you what exactly the reason for the ban.

Obv if my posts "were of low quality" then they should by removed. But my posts was not removed but I have been banned.
Where is the logic ?

Obv. your posts were of low quality and you were posting alot of them and thats why they got removed.
I mean the reasoning is pretty obvious.

This is not my case. I had not started many topics. I wrote in other topics, but someone decided that too much?
I ask again: it has become forbidden to write a lot here?

It is probably not a nice thing to see to start many topics at the same time.
Make the Topics that are created unique, make sure they haven't posted before and make them posts of higher quality.

Posts such as,
Whats your favorite color?
Whats your favorite car?
are low quality.

High Quality posts would be posts that help the community or a question that you might have that hasn't been answered before.

These are just examples.

User: ~DefaultTrust
Reason: Burst posting / low quality posts

I have not see any logic at all.

What is "Burst posting" I am not bot and my posting is totally from head. Is it forbidden to write many posts here?
What is "low quality posts" There was only one deleted post with that reason  at 4.05.2020. If other messages are "low quality" why there are not deleted then?