Please get the TwitBook threads off the newbie board.

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Quote from: bitart on July 03, 2018, 04:33:07 PM

Do bots really post here on the forum? I just can't belive that people can post so useless things in any topic...
What if we implement a recaptcha for e.g. a week, for every post? If it's only a week, I won't care much... This way we could analyze if it has any effect on the post count, so we could hopefully get the answer for the bot question...

How if Newbies and Jr. Members (I chose Newbies and Jr. Members because they are often used in bounties and spamming) need to recaptcha everytime when they will post? This will somehow give them hard time posting and also to stop bots account.

Newbies are having good time posting/spamming in the forum with just 360 seconds time interval which is equal to 240 post per day, how if they will solve a captcha first before posting their post? I'm sure that they will be annoyed but it is for the forum's sake, let's just see if this idea will somehow decrease spams.

What you guys think?

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I think the beginners forum could become important as the government pseudo-cryptos roll out. But they won't give the forum credibility if the board is full of scams and ponzis. Keep it focused on Bitcoin and legitimate alts, and we can start new members with a good responsible attitude to the replacements for the dying fiat systems.

I wondered if we should have an intro board. I think Theymos stated that it would become a spam fest, and he discouraged it. However, there are so many spam mega threads, that keeping some of them on an intro board could help the other boards. The early posts in those threads could provide an impression of new members as well. I think some new members struggle to find somewhere to make their first posts, and an intro board would help them to find their feet. It would be interesting to see how the bots and the alts handled it as well.

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Quote from: bitart on July 03, 2018, 04:33:07 PM

Quote from: LeGaulois on July 03, 2018, 01:38:31 PM

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I, personally, waste a lot of time to read useless posts, I read more shitposts than useful ones. Even AI bot could make more quality posts than them

Do bots really post here on the forum? I just can't belive that people can post so useless things in any topic...
What if we implement a recaptcha for e.g. a week, for every post? If it's only a week, I won't care much... This way we could analyze if it has any effect on the post count, so we could hopefully get the answer for the bot question...

Dude... The recaptcha thing would be a nightmare for somepeople. Especially for those who use TOR(everywhere). And those who use VPN/TOR in banned countries because they block access to it(sometimes). People take atleast 15 minutes to just get through one freaking captcha to login to this forum.

Twitbooks should be in off-topic and not in Beginners& Help. They have got nothing to do with bitcoin, assuming that by twitbooks you mean those who like offer twitter re-audits and crap like that(?).

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Quote from: bitart on July 03, 2018, 05:06:24 PM

I know that the recaptcha can be a real pain for those who e.g. comes thru the tor network, so it was just an idea. I'm really curious about this bot vs. human thing...
I also know that before the recaptcha, it was possible to pay for captcha solvers to "skip" the captchas, but this has been ended with the recaptcha, I think, so bots won't be able to post if I'm right.

It's not even tor. I have to use my home network to log onto literally everything I go on using recaptcha so it takes ages to get the captcha to work.

And it is still possible to get round the recaptcha service it's just a bit more trickier and means you have to do quite a bit with the console so sometimes it's just easier to solve 40 captchas then send the code to it (unless you're using a bot).

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Quote from: LeGaulois on July 03, 2018, 01:38:31 PM

The whole board should be trashed. A lot of the topics have nothing related to cryptos. The beginner's board is the paradise for shitposters.

This would not change anything, and certainly not for the better. The users that post in the beginners, and help section would likely just move onto the next section to spam if it were just removed. Resulting in more spam concentrated in other sections. Removing the section provides no solution to the problem.

The beginners, and help section I believe still justifies it's place in the forum. Just because we aren't newbies anymore, and might be a little more informed about Bitcoin doesn't mean others are.

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Quote from: jackg on July 03, 2018, 04:44:44 PM

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Quote from: bitart on July 03, 2018, 04:33:07 PM

Quote from: LeGaulois on July 03, 2018, 01:38:31 PM

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I, personally, waste a lot of time to read useless posts, I read more shitposts than useful ones. Even AI bot could make more quality posts than them

Do bots really post here on the forum? I just can't belive that people can post so useless things in any topic...
What if we implement a recaptcha for e.g. a week, for every post? If it's only a week, I won't care much... This way we could analyze if it has any effect on the post count, so we could hopefully get the answer for the bot question...

If that happens, give me a heads up about a week before so I don't have to keep fiddling with the stupid recaptcha (I mean it's honestly not worth me being here if that gets implemented, otherwise there'll be a 12 hour delay on posts).

I know that the recaptcha can be a real pain for those who e.g. comes thru the tor network, so it was just an idea. I'm really curious about this bot vs. human thing...
I also know that before the recaptcha, it was possible to pay for captcha solvers to "skip" the captchas, but this has been ended with the recaptcha, I think, so bots won't be able to post if I'm right.

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https://bit.ly/387FXHi lightning theory

Quote from: LeGaulois on July 03, 2018, 01:38:31 PM

The whole board should be trashed. A lot of the topics have nothing related to cryptos. The beginner's board is the paradise for shitposters. Damn these guys are really killing the forum. If it continues people will call the forum "kindergarten cryptos".

I have to say I probably agree with this now.
A lot of beginners who come here and want to learn about cryptocurrency take themselves to Bitcoin technical support or development and technical discussion instead of the beginners and help board (either they think it's more relevant to ask stuff there or they look at the front page of the beginners section and just think stuff doesn't fit well there because it's full of spammer posting).

Quote from: bitart on July 03, 2018, 04:33:07 PM

Quote from: LeGaulois on July 03, 2018, 01:38:31 PM

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I, personally, waste a lot of time to read useless posts, I read more shitposts than useful ones. Even AI bot could make more quality posts than them

Do bots really post here on the forum? I just can't belive that people can post so useless things in any topic...
What if we implement a recaptcha for e.g. a week, for every post? If it's only a week, I won't care much... This way we could analyze if it has any effect on the post count, so we could hopefully get the answer for the bot question...

If that happens, give me a heads up about a week before so I don't have to keep fiddling with the stupid recaptcha (I mean it's honestly not worth me being here if that gets implemented, otherwise there'll be a 12 hour delay on posts).

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Quote from: LeGaulois on July 03, 2018, 01:38:31 PM

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I, personally, waste a lot of time to read useless posts, I read more shitposts than useful ones. Even AI bot could make more quality posts than them

Do bots really post here on the forum? I just can't belive that people can post so useless things in any topic...
What if we implement a recaptcha for e.g. a week, for every post? If it's only a week, I won't care much... This way we could analyze if it has any effect on the post count, so we could hopefully get the answer for the bot question...

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I agree, more and more useless threads appear every day, it's heading his way to the situation in the Bitcoin Discussion and the Politics and Society before Flying Hellfish.
I think we need a section for all these "free services", there can be moved all the review for merit services and those Twitter audits. I'm sure that this will be a good move.

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The whole board should be trashed. A lot of the topics have nothing related to cryptos. The beginner's board is the paradise for shitposters. Damn these guys are really killing the forum. If it continues people will call the forum "kindergarten cryptos"
I, personally, waste a lot of time to read useless posts, I read more shitposts than useful ones. Even AI bot could make more quality posts than them

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Quote from: Jet Cash on July 03, 2018, 01:11:54 PM

They make Bitcoin Talk look pathetic, and they must be killing it's reputation. Now is the time when we should be building the forum reputtion in preparation for the new digital currencies that the governments will be introducing. Bitcoin Talk's policy of giving priority to the TwitBook scammers and spammers isn't going to give it any credibility. How difficult is it for mods to just move them into the BT underworld?

It is annoying how many posts are rising on the Beginners board related to airdrops, bounties, tweets, how to earn, how to know what is already pinned, how to be a great shitposter...
I agree with you. That kind of crap-posts does belong to "off-topic" or maybe it should be created a "Crap-Board", it will suit better with the content of -mostly- all posts in there. Besides, it will be funny to check out from time to time the "Crap-board" Grin

if created.

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They make Bitcoin Talk look pathetic, and they must be killing it's reputation. Now is the time when we should be building the forum reputtion in preparation for the new digital currencies that the governments will be introducing. Bitcoin Talk's policy of giving priority to the TwitBook scammers and spammers isn't going to give it any credibility. How difficult is it for mods to just move them into the BT underworld?

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