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Quote from: helpme2023 on October 30, 2023, 03:07:06 AM

thanks for all of your replies. Very much.

I’m in china mainland so I can not visit this forum as easy as you.

Also I don’t have access to the binance.

Ok

Suddenly, after a month of opening your accusation you came back from nowhere. So, you still expect people to be interested like they did before and waste their precious time again showing interest in something that doesn't truly seem to interest you? Who knows, the next time you show up on this case maybe in December. Quit wasting our time.

Quote from: holydarkness on October 30, 2023, 01:20:17 PM

I do. Tell us his name here, I'll invite him to give his side of story or defense, we'll get a better picture of what happened, and if he's proven to be harmful and a damage was made, he can be tagged and flagged so no other victim will fall into the same situation.

I hope your patience will last you more than a month to get all that you ask OP for?

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Quote from: helpme2023 on October 30, 2023, 03:07:06 AM

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If you have any good idea. You can reply here. Or message me. [...]

I do. Tell us his name here, I'll invite him to give his side of story or defense, we'll get a better picture of what happened, and if he's proven to be harmful and a damage was made, he can be tagged and flagged so no other victim will fall into the same situation.

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Quote from: helpme2023 on October 30, 2023, 03:07:06 AM

But as you know, I can’t say more publicly.because the scammer is also watching. I wish you all understood.

Every case is difficult to solve, if the incident does not include valid and consistent evidence in the solution, especially in cases of fraud.
So the question...?
* do you know the person you are talking about/the scammer, online or in real life.
* How they steal your BTC.
Whether he was hacked or in other categories of factors, I mean buying or trading with that person.
* How do you know this person is here and what is the account name here.

You should not be afraid to reveal something that will cause you loss or be deceived, you need to be detailed and candid about the person, so that the members here can help you, hiding something without being transparent can cause the case to not be resolved/deadlocked.

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Quote from: helpme2023 on October 30, 2023, 03:07:06 AM

I have connected binance team. They are sure the money is on his site.

They gave me a lot of helps.

But as you know, I can’t say more publicly.because the scammer is also watching. I wish you all understood.

It’s a real lose,no joke.

Details will come after the case having big progress. If you have any good idea. You can reply here. Or message me. I’m not going to reply immediately but I will reply all private messages.

Thanks again all good guys. The money lost is really important to me. I’m sure the scammer has a lot bitcoin.and 0.1 is just a small amount for him(her).but it is all for me. It is a family’s cost for a year here.how I wish you can return it back!silently and friendly. Just return back to the original address.

Supposing what you're saying is true, I doubt the scammer will return it just because you pleaded them to as there is no incentive for them. If it does, we would have seen significant drops in scam damages. Further, it's unlikely to get the community's backing and/or valueable tip from someone if you're being vague af.

Since the btcs sits and/or passed by binance, has the support told you about this self help article? see: https://www.binance.com/en/support/faq/how-to-report-stolen-funds-transferred-to-binance-360000006051

-asking because their support can be a raffle draw

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thanks for all of your replies. Very much.

I’m in china mainland so I can not visit this forum as easy as you.

Also I don’t have access to the binance.

Ok

I have connected binance team. They are sure the money is on his site.

They gave me a lot of helps.

But as you know, I can’t say more publicly.because the scammer is also watching. I wish you all understood.

It’s a real lose,no joke.

Details will come after the case having big progress. If you have any good idea. You can reply here. Or message me. I’m not going to reply immediately but I will reply all private messages.

Thanks again all good guys. The money lost is really important to me. I’m sure the scammer has a lot bitcoin.and 0.1 is just a small amount for him(her).but it is all for me. It is a family’s cost for a year here.how I wish you can return it back!silently and friendly. Just return back to the original address.

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Since the suppose money that was scammed from the OP is gone what should he do now because I really feel for him (that's if is true) or any other person being scammed.
I don't know if the OP was really scammed and he just wanted to raise an alarm with his new account, please don't get me wrong but has the OP come out to say something about this scam accusation? No. And this is page two but yet no response from our dear OP.
And he has only created one post which is this particular thread we're here talking about him being scammed and if this important to him I believe he would have been here saying something, just saying.

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Quote from: Lucius on September 28, 2023, 05:11:56 AM

We can't say for sure if the OP is serious or just playing a well-known game, but non-response and inactivity are never a good sign that the story is true. Also, not providing more details about how the scam was carried out may indicate that the OP is not skilled enough to create a more convincing story.

[...]

I begin more and more inclined to the later, that OP is playing a game. On his opening post, he indicated that the situation is dire, that this is all of his money and it's very important to him, yet he never come back after the post. If I were him and that's all my money, I'll be waiting and following every update on my "complaint" post.

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on September 28, 2023, 06:31:37 AM

The mods should lock this thread or delete it, because I'm 99.99% sure OP isn't going to come back to it.
~snip~

The mods will not do anything by themselves, that is, you have to use the "report to moderator" button to expect any reaction. If the mods acted the way you think, they could delete or lock dozens of similar topics in which the OP asks a question and never appears on the forum again. This is not at all strange behavior if we take into account much more experienced users who open a topic and after that do not write a single post in the same one.

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Quote from: _act_ on September 26, 2023, 01:04:42 AM

Did you make a deal with someone on this forum?

Maybe, who knows? But my guess is that OP posted that stuff, might've read a couple of replies, and then went away for good.

Or this could be a way to get back at someone with that phone number that he posted, which is a stupid thing to do if indeed it is his. The mods should lock this thread or delete it, because I'm 99.99% sure OP isn't going to come back to it. If what he wrote is true, he obviously has no idea what the fundamental principles of using crypto are. Or maybe now he does after paying an expensive education if you know what I'm saying.

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Quote from: tabas on September 27, 2023, 06:45:44 PM

Yeah, all of those are possible. Maybe there will be someone who's gonna react that he's the real one but we highly doubt that as these scammers really are not going to show to the public that they are scammers. Anyway, OP seems to be busy but I think he's aware of the replies here that no one will be able to find out who's the owner of that address but then I suggested him that the funds were all sent to Binance and he can ask if the exchange to cooperate with him.

We can't say for sure if the OP is serious or just playing a well-known game, but non-response and inactivity are never a good sign that the story is true. Also, not providing more details about how the scam was carried out may indicate that the OP is not skilled enough to create a more convincing story.

As for CEX being able to do something, that is true, but the OP would have to prove that the funds are really his, and the question is whether he has control over the address he stated or that address perhaps in the possession of another CEX or online wallet where there is no possibility to sign the message.

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Information is limited, doesn't respond to any of the replies here, I assume that this is just a troll.
Well, I would be happy if the OP isn't a troll at all, and come here to clarify his situation. We don't know who is the "YOU" in his post as well. He didn't even try to reply in this thread to clarify what happened to him, and he experienced getting scammed (if it's true).

Say the name of the scammer/s who scammed you OP. Put the link of his profile here. Benefit of the doubt? I don't think that this is one of those scenarios that we will be giving the OP the benefit of the doubt.

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Quote from: Lucius on September 27, 2023, 08:38:22 AM

Quote from: tabas on September 26, 2023, 06:07:03 AM

Can't find that address from the forum so how can you be sure that he's from here?
~snip~

I think there are three possible options why the OP is publicly asking for something like this on the forum.

The first option is that for some reason he thinks that all people who have something to do with Bitcoin have an account on this forum.
Another option is that the scammer may have mentioned this forum to him or that he has an account here.
The third option is that the OP is just trying to catch someone naive and play the victim, to whom someone will take pity and send a donation.

Whatever it is, I'm sure that neither the scammer will show mercy, nor will anyone be so naive as to send a donation.

Yeah, all of those are possible. Maybe there will be someone who's gonna react that he's the real one but we highly doubt that as these scammers really are not going to show to the public that they are scammers. Anyway, OP seems to be busy but I think he's aware of the replies here that no one will be able to find out who's the owner of that address but then I suggested him that the funds were all sent to Binance and he can ask if the exchange to cooperate with him.

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Quote from: ajiz138 on September 25, 2023, 08:09:44 PM

Information is still unclear about how this could happen. OP's bitcoins can be stolen by accusing the user of being on this forum.

Can you explain in detail.

Check that the BTC wallet address has been sent to Binance.

OP hasn't replied to any of the posts recently which either means that OP has found the thief and that they have an amicable agreement to return the stolen bitcoins (which is the least likely thing and just me wishful that this was the case for this one) or that this is just something created to create a scene, someone trying to stir something that didn't really happened.

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Quote from: Aanuoluwatofunmi on September 27, 2023, 10:02:46 AM

Quote from: helpme2023 on September 25, 2023, 07:45:24 PM

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OP sorry to say this, since you know the direct person involved with the scam you experienced then you could have send a PM to the user or better contacted him through the same means or platform you both met and make the deal, but we will keep repeating this that if you did not give a scammer room enough to attack you they can't steal away your coins from you, how have you been so dependent in the past, how do you handle your wallet security, who are those that you communicate things about your asset to and they advise you, something is wrong with how you handle your money or how you trust people.

If we give OP a benefit of doubts and assume his story is all correct and truthful, don't you think that's what OP did on the first place? Contacted the person scamming him in private and ask for the fund to be returned?

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Quote from: helpme2023 on September 25, 2023, 07:45:24 PM

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OP sorry to say this, since you know the direct person involved with the scam you experienced then you could have send a PM to the user or better contacted him through the same means or platform you both met and make the deal, but we will keep repeating this that if you did not give a scammer room enough to attack you they can't steal away your coins from you, how have you been so dependent in the past, how do you handle your wallet security, who are those that you communicate things about your asset to and they advise you, something is wrong with how you handle your money or how you trust people.

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Quote from: BitMaxz on September 25, 2023, 07:59:45 PM

How did you know the owner of that address is here on the forum?
~snip~

Quote from: tabas on September 26, 2023, 06:07:03 AM

Can't find that address from the forum so how can you be sure that he's from here?
~snip~

I think there are three possible options why the OP is publicly asking for something like this on the forum.

The first option is that for some reason he thinks that all people who have something to do with Bitcoin have an account on this forum.
Another option is that the scammer may have mentioned this forum to him or that he has an account here.
The third option is that the OP is just trying to catch someone naive and play the victim, to whom someone will take pity and send a donation.

Whatever it is, I'm sure that neither the scammer will show mercy, nor will anyone be so naive as to send a donation.

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Quote from: Woodie on September 26, 2023, 08:07:44 AM

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As for Binance stepping in, is it even possible for them to give a listening ear especially since this will be one-sided without the other party giving their side of the story on what transpired to defend themselves..?

Far as I know, if someone give enough evidence and proof of filing a police report, exchanges will help to freeze an account [together with the fund] that's "owned" by their platform. But that's that. Once the funds moved to other platform, all they can do is freezing the account, they can't do anything with the lost fund.

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Looking at the address provided by the OP, these funds were transferred out on Aug 29, 2023, 6:52 PM UTC but unfortunately there isn't enough information to work with...

And with Bitcoin being Pseudonymous and anonymous in nature, you can not track down a user using a Bitcoin address alone especially if the address hasn't been posted by a forum user here on BCT.

OP is this a deal gone wrong or something, whats happening?

Quote from: Nwada001 on September 26, 2023, 02:17:36 AM

@Op If the money is large enough, you can try reaching out to Binance Support and reporting the scam transaction to them to see if there is anything that could be done from their end, maybe restricting the user account (which I don't know how possible that can be), or monitoring the user closely and trying to figure out what really happened if it was a scam or a business gone wrong.

Seems this wallet was swept in one transaction and Total spent was 0.10327072BTC ~ 2,694.23USD

As for Binance stepping in, is it even possible for them to give a listening ear especially since this will be one-sided without the other party giving their side of the story on what transpired to defend themselves..?

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Can't find that address from the forum so how can you be sure that he's from here? Also, transactions are irreversible and a robber won't return anything that he has stolen. So, if the funds from that address has already been moved or spent then there's no way that it will be returned back to you. Well, even if by just chance, a hacker/robber will not return anything to you. Sad to say OP but consider it as gone forever and review how did that hacker was able to take your funds. Did you unknowingly gave your seed phrase or private keys to a random guy that has messaged you out of nowhere? Following where it's been sent, it seems that it landed on Binance. Maybe from there if you truly want to do something without assurance that it will be taken back, contact the support and give all proofs and necessary details to prove that it was your fund that was sent by one of their users.

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Quote from: yhiaali3 on September 26, 2023, 04:35:12 AM

If you know the account of the member who stole your money, why don't you put the profile link here so that all members make a red flag, if they confirm that your story is true, of course.

OP should not speculate and he should tell why he concluded that the scammer has an account here, without sustaining his conclusion it's like suspecting that Bitcointalk is a hub of scammers, you don't come here and post something like that without evidence dragging members of Bitcointalk, tell us the whole story and why you have a hint that he has an account here, checking the address there's only four transactions how much amount and why not post here earlier after you've been victimized its been a month since this happened.

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If you know the account of the member who stole your money, why don't you put the profile link here so that all members make a red flag, if they confirm that your story is true, of course.

As for this, without any details, I do not expect anyone to be able to help you, and I do not expect that the thief will return your money to you after it is in his wallet. If he had, he would not have stolen it in the first place.

I hope I am wrong and the thief will return your money, although this is a very weak possibility because thieves do not have good hearts to be influenced by your words and return the money.

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OP, this thread runs on evidence, we can't help you if you don't give us any proof... or anything at all. Based from the impression I get from this part of your post,

Quote from: helpme2023 on September 25, 2023, 07:45:24 PM

[...]
I know you are in this forum and you will
read this topic.

[...]

------ is my phone number,you know what I am talking about.

you know the user quite close, or at least had an established communication with them. If you can provide their username, the best we can do is to invite them here to talk about this matter, or to tag them [suppose your evidence are strong and convincing enough that they indeed stole from you] and hopefully they'll return the fund to you. But with the current info you gave us here, there's not enough basis to build a case.

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Your money is unfortunately gone with no chances of ever getting them back, but if person that stole it active here (as you claim) then you should use Scam Report Form so we get a better idesa what has hapepned here and possibly tag and flag that account in order to prevent him (or at least try) from scamming someone else.

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Quote from: Cantsay on September 26, 2023, 01:42:42 AM

I don’t how this came about but I did scan the wallet to try and see if it connected to any wallet address that has been posted publicly here in the forum but unfortunately I couldn’t get any positive results.

I also tried doing the same things, and it led me nowhere. It seems like the address the OP posted was an address that the said person used to receive bitcoin, and after a successful receiving of the bitcoin, the coins were then moved to another address. Upon checking the address, the address appears to look like an exchange address.

The exchange in particular is . Binance according to the final address of the bitcoin receiver.

@Op If the money is large enough, you can try reaching out to Binance Support and reporting the scam transaction to them to see if there is anything that could be done from their end, maybe restricting the user account (which I don't know how possible that can be), or monitoring the user closely and trying to figure out what really happened if it was a scam or a business gone wrong.

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I don’t how this came about but I did scan the wallet to try and see if it connected to any wallet address that has been posted publicly here in the forum but unfortunately I couldn’t get any positive results.

I’m sorry for your lose, and right now there’s nothing anyone can do to help you but if you can provide more information about how you got scammed or if it was a business you guys did then sharing with the forum how they contacted you, how you knew the person had an account here in the forum or anything at all that you think will help the situation.

_act_

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Did you make a deal with someone on this forum?

One thing that you should keep in mind on internet is to never trust anyone. Even the person you are seen physically can still scam you, not to talk of the person that you are not seeing physically but online.

You need to make this clear for us. What is the Bitcointalk username of the person that scam you?

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Yes unfortunately the way it works with bitcoin is that once it’s sent it can’t be reversed once it’s confirmed. You can’t do a chargeback like you could with a bank.

What you need to do is get a hardware wallet and you also need to format your computer and reinstall everything because you got some virus and that’s how you lost your coins.

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@OP you will not get back your coins anymore, it's gone.

What you can do is to prevent you will lose your coins in the future, in case you're still interested with Bitcoin.

The first step is choosing a good wallet (non custodial and open source) e.g. electrum, bluewallet, etc.

The next step is the exchange, better to use no KYC P2P e.g. Agoradesk or DEX e.g. Bisq, in order to stay private and not make people know you're holding Bitcoin.

And the last is learn to avoid everything of making money online e.g. airdrop, giveaway etc and learn about security.

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Information is still unclear about how this could happen. OP's bitcoins can be stolen by accusing the user of being on this forum.

Can you explain in detail.

Check that the BTC wallet address has been sent to Binance.

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How did you know the owner of that address is here on the forum?

Would you mind to tell us what exactly happened?
Without much information, we can't give you any advice on what to do.

And take note if the transaction is already confirmed there's no way to reverse the transaction.

About that address, I tried to search here but you're the only one who mentioned it.

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this is all my money，

I need help!

I know you are in this forum and you will
read this topic.

You steals my bitcoin. On
Time
2023-08-25 19:29:21 UTC

Your address is

bc1qlg4ve24824jugx2grqxrcshhg59qug69086s63

Can you just return it back to the original address?

It is very important to me.and this amount is nothing for you.

6828428 is my phone number,you know what I am talking about.

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