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Topic: Plus500.de now accepts CFDs for BTC/USD. 4:1 Leverage (Read 1035 times)

full member
Activity: 168
Merit: 100
CFDs = Bets. They are just pieces of paper that attempt to act as if you had a leveraged position in the asset. There is actually no asset changing hands.

Thus they don't directly (or even necessarily indirectly) affect the exchange rate. You could have 10,000 BTC bought or sold through CFDs and not one point of slippage on BTC would occur.

Also they don't even offer services to US citizens, and don't even offer metatrader software.

In other words, this should make little to no difference. I suppose it could get a few people knowing what BTC is. Other than that? nothing really.

You mean the site owners dont hedge against their losses?
That would in a small market like Bitcoin, that is so easy to manipulate with a couple million of USD be a fatal failure.
I guess they will hedge their risks on MtGox, thus buy/sell an equal amount of Bitcoins on MtGox that all their clients combined would costs them if they lost their bets against their customers.

What would be the point of CFDs if the brokerage is just going to hedge out anyway? Restricting the user from ever withdrawing his bitcoins? Even if they do hedge, it'd be a fraction of the actual leveraged amount being "CFD'd" as they'd probably try to have clients on either side of the order.
newbie
Activity: 46
Merit: 0
I used plus500 a few years back. Only deposited $500, made $2500. When I went to withdraw they froze my account and didn't give a reason. Tried to contact them several times and nothing.

I would be cautious with depositing
legendary
Activity: 1022
Merit: 1000
CFDs = Bets. They are just pieces of paper that attempt to act as if you had a leveraged position in the asset. There is actually no asset changing hands.

Thus they don't directly (or even necessarily indirectly) affect the exchange rate. You could have 10,000 BTC bought or sold through CFDs and not one point of slippage on BTC would occur.

Also they don't even offer services to US citizens, and don't even offer metatrader software.

In other words, this should make little to no difference. I suppose it could get a few people knowing what BTC is. Other than that? nothing really.

You mean the site owners dont hedge against their losses?
That would in a small market like Bitcoin, that is so easy to manipulate with a couple million of USD be a fatal failure.
I guess they will hedge their risks on MtGox, thus buy/sell an equal amount of Bitcoins on MtGox that all their clients combined would costs them if they lost their bets against their customers.
full member
Activity: 168
Merit: 100
CFDs = Bets. They are just pieces of paper that attempt to act as if you had a leveraged position in the asset. There is actually no asset changing hands.

Thus they don't directly (or even necessarily indirectly) affect the exchange rate. You could have 10,000 BTC bought or sold through CFDs and not one point of slippage on BTC would occur.

Also they don't even offer services to US citizens, and don't even offer metatrader software.

In other words, this should make little to no difference. I suppose it could get a few people knowing what BTC is. Other than that? nothing really.
legendary
Activity: 1022
Merit: 1000
They are an you could say "established" FX broker and they have just announced, that they now offer CFDs on BTC/USD.

They also offer a free demo account to get to know their software.

Any experiences yet?

What does this mean for Bitcoin's exchange rate?
My guess: >>higher volatility<<

Ressources:
http://www.plus500.de/?refurl=http%3a%2f%2fwww.reddit.com%2fr%2fBitcoin%2fsearch%3fq%3dplus500%26restrict_sr%3don
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1dbusc/plus500com_now_supports_bitcointrading_with_real/
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1979840
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