Topic: Pointless releasing anything like OpenBazaar on any other format besides Android (Read 1148 times)
April 17, 2016, 12:26:30 PM
Android devices are for consuming media and checking out your Facebook account while on the bus. I don't understand why would you want to run a piece of software which your own living could depend on if you are a seller and your main shop is on OpenBazzar for example. Have you seen business notebooks with Android or Chrome OS? Nope because they are just toys for your free time and when you want to do serious business you get a Windows, Linux or Mac system.
April 17, 2016, 12:06:16 PM
for mobile maybe, for desktop, windows is winning by a long shoot, with windows 10 also, not even funny
i know that mobile = average non-tech-savy joe, that would increase the adoption drastically, but still desktop joe are holding a big share
i know that mobile = average non-tech-savy joe, that would increase the adoption drastically, but still desktop joe are holding a big share
April 17, 2016, 11:18:29 AM
its the biggest operating system in the world
Well, the better the merrier right. Windows is still king of OS for desktops, and iPhone is huge in the smartphone sector, so I think we need OpenBazaar working in as many systems as possible regardless of how many people are going to use it. If we want massive mainstream acceptance we have to get the software ready for as many platforms as possible.
April 17, 2016, 11:10:18 AM
Well for the people who wants to limit the time their store is online, it would not be a good idea to run it on a Andriod device like a smart phone. If
you want to monitor it, whilst you are around and only when you using it, then a desktop or a notebook with wifi access would be a better option. I
do not know, if the smaller devices will be able to handle the resources needed to run it.
you want to monitor it, whilst you are around and only when you using it, then a desktop or a notebook with wifi access would be a better option. I
do not know, if the smaller devices will be able to handle the resources needed to run it.
April 17, 2016, 10:48:48 AM
To run peer to peer software it needs to be a computer connected to the Internet 24/7. OP, why don't you write a front end app that can connect to OB without being a peer to peer node? Something you can search and purchase on, without being a store.
If your seller then you should be connected 24/7. But for buyers only it doesnt matter much, so Android version make sence for buyers.
Also for Open Bazar to be succesfull, a lot of people need to use it - and most people are buyers or looking to buy, and selling only rarely (for selling they can use their desktop PC instead).
April 17, 2016, 08:58:49 AM
To run peer to peer software it needs to be a computer connected to the Internet 24/7. OP, why don't you write a front end app that can connect to OB without being a peer to peer node? Something you can search and purchase on, without being a store.
April 17, 2016, 03:27:27 AM
Can't agree with you regarding this, since having more competition in any given service is going only to have positive impact on those OpenBazaar like websites, mainly due to them trying to be better than the other but the moment competition is eliminated or absent then no improvement will be done on their end.
April 17, 2016, 02:01:05 AM
You can only make that statement due to your limited knowledge and exposure in the technical business market.Android is not the world's most operating system.Maybe most of ecommerce business happens on Apps by ebay/amazon but we're not imitating them here.Openbazaar is in its early phases,I'm very sure for a release of their mobile application soon.The development is slow as its open source and very few contributors.People are using it regardless of the format anyway.Platform in dependency is not the priority,getting people to support the idea is.It would be worthless developing platform independent stuff without fixing the issues in the beta updates.
April 17, 2016, 01:54:35 AM
Most still transact with Bitcoins mainly using desktop oses like Windows or Linux, although I can see it gaining more usage by releasing a android app
of course and desktops are purely for games or graphics
and this is not a graphics program, so very easily it
could run on android and im sure the experts at "linux to
android conversions" could do it extremely easily
April 17, 2016, 01:24:40 AM
If you run a store it is best to have a setup where the service runs on something like a VPS with high bandwidth and high availability. You can always control it from your phone through some generic remote access app, though a dedicated app would be the best.
You don't want your store to go offline everytime you step into an elevator or take the subway.
You don't want your store to go offline everytime you step into an elevator or take the subway.
April 16, 2016, 10:57:06 PM
Android is the most popular operating system in the world only if cellphones are concerned. On the desktop Windows is till the most popular OS. Good luck trying to run the complete OpenBazaar app on your cellphone and getting all the features of a Windows, Linux or OSX app. Most likely your phone or tablet would run out of battery before noon every day if you try to run your shop 24/7.
True. An android app is necessary, to monitor your listings, sales, and everything but like eBay and other e-commerce sites, it's best to run on a PC to set them all up. Smartphones are just for looking at your account every now and then.
April 16, 2016, 03:34:43 PM
Android is the most popular operating system in the world only if cellphones are concerned. On the desktop Windows is till the most popular OS. Good luck trying to run the complete OpenBazaar app on your cellphone and getting all the features of a Windows, Linux or OSX app. Most likely your phone or tablet would run out of battery before noon every day if you try to run your shop 24/7.
April 16, 2016, 03:03:40 PM
I know a few people with unlimited data plans, but most are on pathetic amounts as am I. Considering how hopelessly patchy cellphone internet is too unless you're in the middle of a city it's kinda pointless running something that needs so much uptime.
Well, it really depends on where you live and how much you need. I don't see this being a problem in first world countries. Again, it really depends on how much OB actually needs. Someone needs to try and gather some statistics. 
April 16, 2016, 02:41:31 PM
Android for purchasing? Sure
Android for sellers? Sounds like potential trouble.
Also, the future of OB is very closely tied to being anonymous. At least to jump start the system. Which OS will be more anonymous? Which providers will be more likely to resist government data collection?
Linux on Raspberry Pi 3 is a good option for sellers. Low cost, always on. Some interesting and creative wifi connection possibilities exist.
Android for sellers? Sounds like potential trouble.
Also, the future of OB is very closely tied to being anonymous. At least to jump start the system. Which OS will be more anonymous? Which providers will be more likely to resist government data collection?
Linux on Raspberry Pi 3 is a good option for sellers. Low cost, always on. Some interesting and creative wifi connection possibilities exist.
April 16, 2016, 02:35:07 PM
Well, I don't see data being much of a problem, although I don't know exactly how much OB would use up.
I know a few people with unlimited data plans, but most are on pathetic amounts as am I. Considering how hopelessly patchy cellphone internet is too unless you're in the middle of a city it's kinda pointless running something that needs so much uptime.
April 16, 2016, 01:49:36 PM
People are miserly with battery and data. There's no way something phone based of that nature's gonna work. There does need to be an android interface somehow though.
Well, I don't see data being much of a problem, although I don't know exactly how much OB would use up. The main problem here is the battery. As far as the interface is concerned, maybe some app that would let you interact with your desktop version (that would be running constanly obviously)? April 16, 2016, 01:22:13 PM
People are miserly with battery and data. There's no way something phone based of that nature's gonna work. There does need to be an android interface somehow though.
April 16, 2016, 01:12:06 PM
Maybe the devs could create an Android client that would allow us to log into our store and manage stuff while on the go but the main application will be run at home.
knowing it's peer to peer, you would literally be just logging into your home computer not a central service.. there is already software to remotely access your PC from your phone which people use to control things on their computer remotely.but i think thats the only real solution to do what the OP and wendigo is proposing
April 16, 2016, 01:04:14 PM
I don't think this would work at all. It's best to run OpenBazaar 24/7 on your desktop at home. Why would you want to run it on a cellphone or a tablet? Plus Android apps are unreliable and tend to close down unexpectedly. Maybe the devs could create an Android client that would allow us to log into our store and manage stuff while on the go but the main application will be run at home.
April 16, 2016, 12:47:35 PM
its the biggest operating system in the world
Because running a service 24/7 on your cellphone is a great idea?
i think what he means is that you can carry android around and can communicate with your clients even of your not in your house.
You mean something like https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.microsoft.rdc.android&hl=en ?
April 16, 2016, 12:46:21 PM
I disagree with this idea. You do realize that in order to run a store it is best to keep OB running constantly? This would not work on phones which are not designed for constant workloads (unless you plan on keeping it on the charger). Additionally, I disagree with the claim that it is the biggest OS (especially if you discount the low end devices that probably can't even run such applications).
April 16, 2016, 12:46:04 PM
its the biggest operating system in the world
Because running a service 24/7 on your cellphone is a great idea?
i think what he means is that you can carry android around and can communicate with your clients even of your not in your house.
You can't communicate with anyone unless you are running the software , this is what Peer to peer means .
April 16, 2016, 12:35:28 PM
its the biggest operating system in the world
Because running a service 24/7 on your cellphone is a great idea?
i think what he means is that you can carry android around and can communicate with your clients even of your not in your house.
April 16, 2016, 12:28:48 PM
its the biggest operating system in the world
Because running a service 24/7 on your cellphone is a great idea?
April 16, 2016, 12:22:18 PM
Why can it not be released on every format?
April 16, 2016, 11:59:25 AM
Most still transact with Bitcoins mainly using desktop oses like Windows or Linux, although I can see it gaining more usage by releasing a android app
April 16, 2016, 11:55:06 AM
I'm kind of agreeing with you, but I don't think it's pointless on desktop and laptop
April 16, 2016, 10:34:04 AM
its the biggest operating system in the world
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