Topic: Poker (Read 1197 times)

Yes we want demand for the coin for now and after 1 year we want to charge a flat $1 fee per month for a sub type model.

Where do you get profits from? Are you planning to introduce rake after? Or is it just a way to promote your coin?

We have launched a no rake poker platform using No Limit Coin NLC2. You are welcome to try it. nolimitcoinpoker.com and the Johnny Chan commercial is here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJtDXS8iuyo

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I think its because of how people do not have the interest of playing poker with bitcoin. it might be just because that there is a lot of sites and or platforms that offers playing poker without bitcoin and nowadays its much more easy and aimple for them. Tjough there are still a few and in between poeker sites which have been outlined by other commentators and posters

Poker is the only game that I like in the world of gambling. At least the player gets a chance of shoeing his skill and he comes to learn few human behaviors also. It is not a kid’s game to bluff and hide it from opponent who can pierce through your mind.

That is hell of a thrill. But the luck is very important to get such cards by which a person can win the game. Getting poor cards in the start means you are doomed no matter how skillful you are.
 

Poker just isn't a profitable game for the gambling sites period.  This is especially true in the online fiat poker rooms.  Right now Pokerstars dominates the field, but its traffic goes down year by year.  The other sites' traffic have been going down too.  It's a dying industry imo.  Even in live poker, tables are placed behind the slot machines, way waaay back of some casinos because it's not making them money.  Lol.

It's sad, but less and less people are interested in the game.

It is not possible for any individual to do all sort of things. Every person has talent in some specific field. Poker is not your thing like table tennis is not made for me. And it was very wise of you to give up on what is not meant for you.

But I admire this game and poker players impress me a lot. They have a good understanding of human nature. Also, poker is good for developing calm mind.

It is absolutely skills and experience based game because you need to be quick in your analysis and to need to have sharp memory to know which cards are already being played. It does help you to know and you can play accordingly. It requires a lot of practice, memory, quick thinking  to master this game.

Let me tell you about Daniel Gates who is considered as the best Poker player in the world. People say that he is on his laptop even when he is taking his breakfast. If you want to increase your winning chances, you need dedication of that level. Otherwise you will remain a recreational player (called as fish) to be grabbed by other experts.

I also used to play poker at pokerstars until I found out that they blocked my country.
After that I found out a poker site that accepts bitcoin(Americas Card room) I started using it, and I can recommend it to other users.
My experience with ACR was smooth, and I was managed to see my deposited funds within minutes after I sent them, withdrawal took a while but the support was helpful and anytime I had a question I could always ask at the live chat.
I think that ACR is the best way for bitcoin poker players.

I see that no one here mentioned coinpoker.com , it's the most solid project in poker these days
they don't offer bitcoin games , they had an ICO that ended successfully few days ago  and they have Tony G as an advisor
they have hourly freerolls so you can check the site for free , the software still need some work but the room is totally fine

I have quit to play poker, 1 and half year ago, when i was play it then i realize i couldn't handle it that's why i quit it, becasue poker is not my game, even i play sports betting and i see mostly sports gamblers play poker, But i am not. I quit it becasue i have a big lost from it and i learned one lesson from my last game, to quit it as soon as. 

I have never been able to get into playing poker online! it is just not the same as playing it face to face around a table. it doesn't do it for me. I believe the main thing about poker is actually playing it face to face to try and read your opponent and you can not do that when playing it online.
besides that you can never trust the system when you are playing online, there is no probably fair thing for poker anymore. in face to face you physically protect your cards but when online you can never tell if the opponent is real or not or if they can see your cards by cheating!

I don't think it's the ability to lie and bluff in the game that are crucial in order to get profit. The ability to calculate your odds of wining, by examining the value of the pot, the amount of money you need to invest to win that pot, the odds you actually have on winning that hand, compared to the odds of your opponent wining that hand (based on the type of hands he normally plays, and how he plays them) is the crucial skill to win in the long run.

You can get luck in the river if you make a bad play, but you can only have profit in the long run, if you keep making good investments on every hand you play.

Getting good card is entirely about luck when playing poker, but one cannot deny the fact that most of the time, its skills that make a person win whenever they are playing the game. The ability to lie and call a bluff are all crucial to the game.

I'm a bit like you. Most poker rooms that allow you to sue crypto normally have a very small player base, and that is keeping me out from "crypto poker" right now. I also have a few concerns about collusion in "crypto poker". Usually crypto users value their privacy, which is good, but I think that makes it harder to track collusion on poker rooms. Player can have multiple account, and use that to cheat on tournaments and cash tables, and I don't know how to solve that.

Are you enjoying playing on those tables? Don't they look suspicious from time to time?

Since you talked about software, I normally like using "hand trackers" that will display player stats on table, so I can use them to make my decisions in play. Do you know any poker room where you can use that type of software?

I don’t consider poker as a totally luck dependent game. Yeah, I know that it is all about cards. If someone does not get good ones, no matter how good a poker player he is, his winning probability is very low. But if someone gets amazing cards and knows nothing about the game, definitely he will screw up his chance of winning. Poker is some real game, kind that does not let you go easy even for a moment.

I get a lot of experience from losing in a row to winning in a row yes it's all about luck, whether to hold or stop depending on each of us

Poker is far better than any other card game or casino game that is why it is played the most. It is real fun but playing it online fades its true colors. This game is best played when you have the opponent sitting across you and catching someone's bluff at that time is like you are a hero and dominate everyone. The exchange of looks is just out of the world in land based casino's poker.

This question has been asked over and over again. To be honest there are only a few gambling sites that offer poker as a game. I think this is really because poker is not that profitable for gambling sites since games takes a lot of time to finish and they do not get a lot of margin per game. Then there is the issue that it is just a niche, which means there aren't much gamblers wanting to play it.

I think for me for card games, it is better to gamble IRL. For me it is better because i could and really would feel or sense the enemy wether bluffing or really legit. Because most games online are always in all in mode and it is so boring. Especially if you have low chips. Bigstackers are always raising upon distribution of the card.

Poker is a fun game which also providing opportunities to apply our experience. No doubt things have been totally changed within the last decade. No there is not a single place where we won't find computer and such machines. Like other games, poker is also played online and offline. We have gambling sites and land based casinos but the real fun is in real environment. However, playing with multiplayer online also is a good amusement.

I also play poker games in my mobile phone. I really like playing card games and my most favorite is poker. I always play this card game with my friends and cousins, sometimes with older people and I feel so much excited and thrilled. Maybe the reason why I feel like that is because I bet amounts with them and we always have a twist in the bet to make the games more exciting. I seldom play gambling card games online because I can't afford loosing to much bitcoin.

Than more people are in online gambling than less chances to win. Logically by my opinion 
I play on 888 only, they have free tournaments oftenly, so if I loose I loose only my time that I spent for the game, but not my money.

Technology has revolutionized our ways. It has facilitated us but nothing is perfect. Similarly, it is one of the cons of internet that people miss the real fun. I am also a poker player and seriously dude, poker can be enjoyed at peak only in land based casinos.

I tried it out with my friends at home but that was not very fascinating either. Dice is the right option to be played with AI.

I have never tried site poker; I always play it in land based casinos. If you have left playing the game, does that matter how much changes have been made in gambling sites now? Poker is a gambling game and no doubt if someone has someone has good strategies, then he can win most of the times. This is what I have experienced in real environment. Sites have always an edge over the player.

I like to play card in real world so i think i will try to play also here in bitcoin,im so lucky in gambling so i keep playing but i think my luck is for me only and bad for my enemy in poker so better to analyze what you are doing in gambling if you dont know how to play wise then do it for fun not for profit

i like poker games i played it on my cellphone because it's okay to play it big money and lure the paycheck. If i play in casino i am looking for poker game but i need big money to play it.

I played from 2012 to 2015, but couldn't turn it in to a main source of income, just probably didn't put in enough effort. I thought I might take another chance. So to people who have been playing online poker since early 2010s or even earlier, what is the biggest change that happened in the game in terms of how people play (more TAGs, less fish, wider 3bet range pre-flop,etc.) and how games changed on major poker rooms(structure,user base, rake, etc.)?

In most modern poker games, the first round of betting begins with one or more of the players making some form of a forced bet (the blind or ante). In standard poker, each player bets according to the rank they believe their hand is worth as compared to the other players. The action then proceeds clockwise as each player in turn must either match (or "call") the maximum previous bet, or fold, losing the amount bet so far and all further involvement in the hand. A player who matches a bet may also "raise" (increase) the bet. The betting round ends when all players have either called the last bet or folded. If all but one player folds on any round, the remaining player collects the pot without being required to reveal their hand. If more than one player remains in contention after the final betting round, a showdown takes place where the hands are revealed, and the player with the winning hand takes the pot.

With the exception of initial forced bets, money is only placed into the pot voluntarily by a player who either believes the bet has positive expected value or who is trying to bluff other players for various strategic reasons. Thus, while the outcome of any particular hand significantly involves chance, the long-run expectations of the players are determined by their actions chosen on the basis of probability, psychology, and game theory.

Poker has gained in popularity since the beginning of the twentieth century and has gone from being primarily a recreational activity confined to small groups of enthusiasts to a widely popular activity, both for participants and spectators, including online, with many professional players and multimillion-dollar tournament prizes.

Poker is some real fun and I think it is the most widely played casino game. I am also a poker player but honestly, don't you guys think that poker can be only thrilling in real atmosphere where you can see your opponent sitting across you. No matter how good of an environment is given by any site, it can never ever get to the level of land based casinos.

Honestly, the only casino game that attracts me is poker but really it is no fun if we play it online. You can get the real thrill only in traditional land based casinos.

Obviously, it is not only AI that ruins fun in online poker but even playing with multiplayer, you can't get satisfaction and fun as well. Poker can be enjoyed at peak only in conventional casinos.

As a poker player i can call you, you are really experienced person who know about poker very well. But unfortunately i am not playing poker, because my experience in poker was very bad, That's why i play only sports betting, and some small games like dice. But as you explain about poker, the poker gamblers definitely get good thinking behalf of you.

In this world, every human wants to get more and more money. They are so naive and fragile that they cannot control their greed. In doing so, people trample all others under their feet. It is harsh but true. If a gambling site is rigged, it must not be very surprising. This is how things work in the real world but I am not an online poker player. Poker can be fun only in real environment.

I see that the gambling site are not really Rigged, and by seeing that graph we can say that the gambling site doesn't need to Rigged the game to simply get earnings, Even if there are certain site that are rigged not all site are, and I think they will not do such a thing.

No there aren't.

Otherwise I couln't have a graph like this one:



Notice that I'm having "bad luck" because my winnings are lower than the EV. You can see many graphs like that in poker forums.

It is much more simple than that: they make loads, and I mean loads of money, without the need of rigging anything.

Why wouldn't the developers waste time to develop a rigged game?
They are getting paid for that, per job or per hour, they don't mind at all what thing they are making/developing and what's their employer is going to do with their job, they are just working for money.
I think that their are a large amount of rigged casino games which we don't even know about and most of them are taking our money while we think that we lost at a legit way

And i dont think developers would waste time just for a rigged game. Totally worthless i would say. I came across many poker games and the luck is not just in the cards but on how you deal with them.  https://bitoker.com/dashboard This poker site is also good because it is only for poker and not a casino type but just a poker room. It is yet starting and im affiliated to any of them to advertise. I just want to share it with you if you want it.

Hi, stevrev! I play on btckings too. I was even advertising the site wearing there signature for some time. What I can say is that the owners are honest people and that more than 10 people withdrew there winnings from there successfully, some of which won hundreds of USD in couple of weeks. I think the only thing this site lacks is a good advertising, because if more people knew it's legit they would play there for sure. So, if you ask me, I would recommend to play on btckings, because unlike other similar sites, which I tried too, btckings allows you to withdraw without any problems, which was confirmed by several other users in there official thread.

You are doing something wrong. You probably get tilted after those bad beats and start playing emotionally. Everyone, even winner players, get bad beats and losing streaks. I don’t play in crypto sites because there haven’t nearly as much traffic as Pokerstars, and because there might be collusion, as it has been said, but I can assure you that none of the main fiat sites are rigged. It would be easy for a third party to prove it, and there wouldn’t be winning players.

Hi!
I was at the same situation as you just a while ago, until I find a very cool poker took who allows you to deposit with credit card/bank transfer but also in bitcoins.

You should try the site americancardsroom.

I can verify that I already withdrew and deposited into it and everything went fine, I got the payment with a delay of few hours but beside that it was awesome.

The online con is that there are not a big amount of players, an average of about 200 online players each time I was trying to play.
Give it a try!

I sure do granting that the traffic is good or at least decent enough to get games at least 4 tables going at once.  I like multitabling a lot and it's really impossible to play more than 4 - 5 tables at a time with Bitcoin poker rooms.  And yes, good software helps too.  That's why I keep coming back at Pokerstars for my poker 'cravings'.  They got the best software in the business.

Mostly Poker online are using fiat for now, Not much casino playing poker under the unit Bitcoin cause the price of bitcoin are changing for every minutes. So i think you should change poker into roulette or dice or mines. You can still have fun or using fiats to play poker is better.

Certainly this is one of a strategy that can be used in a poker match, expression war if you had shown your expression on the opponent they can surely used this at their advantage or vice versa and I think This is the one that are not present or can not be used if it is an online poker match, maybe a you can put Video Call needed when engaging in an online poker match when one would make their own poker site, Because this type of aspect can surely be a great deal when you are playing poker gambling.

actually online poker games and real poker the same if we look in terms of strategy
the difference is that we can immediately see the real form of the players,
and also we can see the look of the customers who can make us know how the expression of the card holder,
which can be one of our strategies in taking advantage of intu
because some poker players can not hide their exposure when they get a good card or vice versa

Why do you advertise bitcoin casino? Why are you here? Instead to promote bitcoin you are telling people to play with fiat.
Bitcoin poker is very good and you can find good poker for bitcoins. I would recommend nitrogen, I wear their signature and you can find easily with one click, registration is very simple and you can play poker for bitcoins when ever you wish, more you play more tickets for free tournaments you will get. You can find more rules about it on the site, or PM me I will explain you how can you get those tickets with playing cash games.
Even if you don't choose nitrogen you can find other good casinos where you can play poker for bitcoins. Its up to you to choose place you like, but nitrogen is probably most trusted bitcoin casino.

Do you absolutely want to use bitcoin for playing poker?

It looks like most fiat poker rooms have much better software and a much larger playerbase due to their longer experience.

Have you tried Jetwin? They have a nice online casino with live dealers. I played some BJ in there and it was fun.
It used to be a big casino before they started accepting Bitcoin, so it's usually full of people playing.

I love playing poker online but so far unfortunately only at FIAT casinos. The reason for this because I find it hard to find a good poker site which operates only in Bitcoin and has at least the same amount of traffic as one FIAT casino has. I remember having lot of fun playing at Globet poker (a FIAT casino I don't know if it exist still or not) a few years ago, the tables there were always full.

I am still waiting for when a Bitcoin poker site will have such traffic so we can all play there and have fun.

I don't like online poker too much since you can't really play a lot of strategies when the game is online. There are a lot of strategies like playing
a bluff with poker face or anything that involves physical presence. Well fun also diminishes as well whenever playing online. So I prefer real poker.

I think playing poker online is only for amateur, Professional in poker only play at LAN , where everyone can see other's emotions to make a decision fall or call. That how every LAN poker attracted viewers every years.

This is obviously started by a person trying to advertise Btckings, but ok I'll bite.  I just checked your poker site and one of the things that discourages me, and most who wants to play online, is the low traffic.  What are your plans in fixing this and why do you think it'll be a different outcome from the other BTC poker sites who have failed?

man that's pretty disappointing.. I wish more people were interested in playing poker online.

i have been i poker players and affiliate for many years, it is true that finding a good poker site nowhere days is very hard.
I have played on every single site that has ever come out and nowhere days i play on bitcoin based poker sites.
I would like for a site to come out that is only in bitcoin but can attract a huge base of players because all the bitcoin poker sites are relatively small with a soft player base.
I am looking forward to ultimatebit to come out soon which i hope might be a good fit for me .

I have opened a dicussion thread in regards to bitcoin poker sites here Where do crypto poker players play and why? and have to admit that the discussion is relatively quiet.

However, that does not mean that a well managed bitcoin poker site can not become one of the larger ones.

I personally can't do much online poker anymore.  There seems to be far too many "bad beats" and one can only assume its rigged, even at fiat websites.  The person staying in has a 1% chance to win throughout the entire hand and then, bam, they get river and turn to go in their favor. 

Hey

Please follow my post here - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/new-poker-room-design-for-new-bitcoin-brand-launch-promo-new-2069122

I am launching a new poker room on 01/10/2017 (hopefully it will be ready by then for beta)
Its taken us months to build, but we will have a download client for windows, a web based html client and Mobile app for android.

I'm giving away 1mBTC during the 2 week beta to new players. Have a look at the post for images of the poker room and tables.

In regards to security -
Indeed it may be true, that it is harder to detect collusion with anonymous poker sites, but not impossible. Our software was built on an alert system, detecting user behaviour and giving us a statistical evaluation if a player is colluding or not.

As you mentioned freerolls, we will have freerolls running daily and quite often.
Hoping to have you on board for the beta.

Best

I've used ACR, but it lags really bad on my computer. playing two tables at once is basically impossible. and I've heard good things about Bovada/Ignition, but their software doesn't seem to work on my computer. it installs just fine, but when I try to open it I get hung up on the first screen which is just a tiny box that says something like "connecting to network." nothing happens after that.. it's pretty god damn irritating.. but thanks for the suggestions.

I think we all face the same problem when it comes to poker. There aren't enough players on the poker sites that use bitcoin. I don't really understand why, because poker is a popular game among gamblers. In my opinion is because of the fear of collusion. Anonymity is valued by the bitcoin community and that doesn't work very well with poker. How can you prevent collusion, if the site can't make sure that they don't have alts on the same table.

I think this will always be a problem, and we will always lack poker players playing with bitcoin, unless they identity verification.
As for where to play, I used to do it at betcoin.ag, because it had a bigger player base than the others, but I don't do it anymore, because of the problems I've mentioned.

ACR if you need to use Bitcoins and don't care about anonymity. Bovada/Ignition work well too.

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Otherwise you're kind of fucked when it comes to crypto poker. Wait until some of the bigger names release their poker rooms, I guess.

I enjoy playing poker online, but I've had a hard time finding a place to play. many sites require you to download and install software. I don't necessarily mind doing that, but having a mac limits my options somewhat; it's far more convenient to play through a browser. that being said, nitrogensports.eu seemed like the perfect fit. I like the look and functionality of their poker client, which is all browser based. their hourly freerolls always attracted 50-70 entrants, with as many as 600 for special weekly events. nitro does well to respect players' anonymity, but that also provided for a great deal of collusion, which ultimately lead to the discontinuation of the hourly freerolls.

now that the hourly freerolls are gone, so are most of the players, which is arguably the most important aspect of a poker site. for the past few weeks, I've been playing at BTCkings.com, a relatively new poker site that exclusively deals in bitcoin. the only thing they lack is a solid player base. there are a handful of regulars who can be found playing there, as well as a few bots, but unless more people come, I can't imagine it will be around much longer.

I really hope more of you start playing there. it's a simple site that is easy to join and seems to be run by honest people. besides the small player base, I only have one little gripe, and it's purely superficial: the poker software, which is conveniently browser based, looks like a time capsule from 1997. I don't know why.. it just feels kind of dated. but I like that it's simple, and it seems to function just fine.. so if you can see past that, I'm sure you'll find it to be a fantastic option for online poker.

what's your experience playing online? and is there any place you can recommend?

thanks!