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Quote from: thejaytiesto on June 10, 2016, 10:09:23 AM

Actually I thought about starting a website where you can play live poker against other people online and you are forced to use a webcam to reveal your face to other players so it would feel a bi more like real life poker, but im sure it already exists even before I google for it..

Not sure the vast majority of poker players will like that but its nice as an option. Maybe some tournaments should have rules where you have to show your face so you know before hand and if you dont you will get kicked. There will need to be an admin watching maybe so it would only really appeal to high stakes and trusted members but I like your thinking.

Quote from: Capradina on June 12, 2016, 06:30:21 PM

I think it doesn't matter, the most important in the game of poker is strategy and trick that he used. So that these factors do not determine victory or good luck of any player. The most important is skill, without the skill of it all won't mean anything

I hear what you saying but that doesn't mean it plays no part at all. There is a reason they wear glasses and that cap thing though as someone else in the thread stated earlier. Bit you are right I think strategy and skill. But perhaps taking a poker face could then the tables.

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I think it doesn't matter, the most important in the game of poker is strategy and trick that he used. So that these factors do not determine victory or good luck of any player. The most important is skill, without the skill of it all won't mean anything

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Quote from: LegitPoker on June 09, 2016, 08:29:09 AM

Takes more knowledge of betting patterns to learn your opponent as that is the only variable you can get from an opponent online.

Quote from: Junko on June 09, 2016, 12:15:18 PM

Whether online or live, your long term profits will come from being able to recognize your opponents play style, their betting patterns, their tendencies in different situations and then exploiting them while at the same time watching your own playstyle, betting patterns and tendencies so as to not get exploited yourself.

An opponent's physical demeanor may help in some cases, but focusing on the above is what will carry you to success in the long run whether you play online or live or both.

This is true. Regardless of whether you can read their faces or not, you can discern which actions to take if you are able to recognize their playstyle. However, against an erratic opponent who conforms to no principle, it's difficult and you must hope for luck on your side.

Obviously though, the more you play against a person, the more you start to form patterns on what they do, but it's the same both ways (so you must be careful in how you play)

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He can't read my poker face po po poker face. Really it's not your face as much as your neck or hands or something. Slap some glasses on and your face is basicslly unreadable.

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Poker is very different online than in person. Same with other games like Blackjack. Most people don't realize but every hand is reshuffled in most occasions so people can't count cards.

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Quote from: thejaytiesto on June 10, 2016, 10:09:23 AM

Actually I thought about starting a website where you can play live poker against other people online and you are forced to use a webcam to reveal your face to other players so it would feel a bi more like real life poker, but im sure it already exists even before I google for it..

There are some big poker sites with webcams and microphones but people aren't required to use one. So it's a good idea but I think it would be really hard to enforce it unless you had very active moderators and people who would report for blacking out the webcam screen etc.

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Actually I thought about starting a website where you can play live poker against other people online and you are forced to use a webcam to reveal your face to other players so it would feel a bi more like real life poker, but im sure it already exists even before I google for it..

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Quote from: JasonXG on June 09, 2016, 04:45:59 AM

I was wondering. In online poker you can't see anyone so there is no PokerFace like offline poker. What sort of impact does this make on poker ? Does it make it more difficult or does it make it easier ? I know for people who can't hide that online is better but what about those who are good at keeping a poker face and reading other players faces or body language ?

This question is pretty much for advanced players with at least a few months expierence.

this is exactly why i always say i like offline poker more than online on a casino. and also when you play online you can never know if there is a cheating going on behind the scene or not, you can never be sure that the other person is a real player or a bot that knows your hand either.

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when playing online poker (at least in the tournaments) you can "read" people by the betting patterns and the amount of time they take for each move. I find that I am able to read some people after watching them in a tournament so a certain amount of time.

I had some crazy hands that I won with just Ace high when the other guy was betting like crazy (trying to get me to fold) and I only called because I was watching them for over an hour and I could tell that they tended to bluff big when they missed what they where hoping to get... like a flush or str8.

It can back fire on you but I love to "get in the mode" in a big tournament because then I seem to start owning the table because I can tell who bluffs and who plays tight.

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Not having the possibility to see the face of your opponent makes it more difficulty, but they have the same problem, they can't see your face and you don't need to hide your emotions, and you can concentrate on game.
For some players will be bad and for others will be better.

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i think is more easy play poker online, because you don't have the problem to see your emotion to other player, but when i play online i have every time more doubt, if the site cheat and i play with bot?

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I already tried this reading their face in poker also in other games like tong its. sometimes its working but sometimes its not..
You may also faking your face to attract the opponent to go all in they are thinking that your cards is low but the truth is you are just attracting them to bet more..

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for people who are already familiar with poker offline and pokerface become a common things to see their opponents face also interacted with them but i personally would not like it because i don't want my opponents see my ugly face when i'm losing my money

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Whether online or live, your long term profits will come from being able to recognize your opponents play style, their betting patterns, their tendencies in different situations and then exploiting them while at the same time watching your own playstyle, betting patterns and tendencies so as to not get exploited yourself.

An opponent's physical demeanor may help in some cases, but focusing on the above is what will carry you to success in the long run whether you play online or live or both.

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When I play poker online I try first to watch on how advers play.After this I try to use wrongs from opponents in my advantage.

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It is really important to be able to read your opponent expression, you will know whether the player is bluffing or really has a card, but it is not that simple to read people face, there are a lot of detail that need to pay attention to be able to uncover the truth
usually the professional poker play had learnt how to read and hide the emotion

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There's a lot of software to analyze your opponent online so I'd say from an information standpoint you have more info online from software tracking the table to see % of hands they play and other stats for 3betting and 4betting etc.

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Poker tells are overrated. It's all in the history with your opponent and knowing his tendencies. Experience also counts for a lot. Playing online is better if you want to improve quickly because you get to play more hands than live poker.

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Quote from: JasonXG on June 09, 2016, 04:45:59 AM

I was wondering. In online poker you can't see anyone so there is no PokerFace like offline poker. What sort of impact does this make on poker ? Does it make it more difficult or does it make it easier ? I know for people who can't hide that online is better but what about those who are good at keeping a poker face and reading other players faces or body language ?

This question is pretty much for advanced players with at least a few months expierence.

There are still "tells" in online poker though its much harder to spot than IRL. One for example is the check boxes that let you pre-select your bet. If someone uses that then you know they made the decision to make that move without knowing what the player before them decided to do.

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It's one of the parts that are the most in poker, and is lost in online poker. A lot of good online poker players get destroyed in real life because they get nervous from in-real-life pressure. A few good poker players, were also very good in real life and became pros tho.

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Quote from: LegitPoker on June 09, 2016, 08:29:09 AM

Takes more knowledge of betting patterns to learn your opponent as that is the only variable you can get from an opponent online.

So i guess it's a matter of learning through observation and expeirence.

Quote from: poptok1 on June 09, 2016, 08:42:57 AM

A lot of pro players wear sunglasses why do you think they do so?
IMO its all in the eyes. The rolling Roll Eyes

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some emotion, just by being a human can not be eradicated.
And this is where cool shades come in to play Cool

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Online gives those shades to every one so the factor of poker-face is no more.
I think it makes the game a bit harder and soulless but just like Legitpoker said
betting behaviour observations makes a difference.

Yes they wear glass but you can tell by their lip curling or twitching etc. I have learnt that test have been done and it is actually impossible for a human to hide facial expression as it happens naturally as a reflex action, though im sure with time you can learn to fake it but even then.

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Quote from: JasonXG on June 09, 2016, 04:45:59 AM

I was wondering. In online poker you can't see anyone so there is no PokerFace like offline poker. What sort of impact does this make on poker ? Does it make it more difficult or does it make it easier ? I know for people who can't hide that online is better but what about those who are good at keeping a poker face and reading other players faces or body language ?

This question is pretty much for advanced players with at least a few months expierence.

Online poker is very easy for manipulation. When you sit on cash game you never know are people you play against work together or not. Or its just one guy with multiple accounts.
In live poker its much harder to trick people around, its possible but with certain skills and talent. For online poker you just need to know how to make bew mail and account..

Live poker is much better in my opinion, and of course emotions works more when you take cards and chips in your hands, and not stupid mouse.

Hehe we should start our own little group we all put in the same amount and share a % of winnings. Will it work though ? Is it a good idea ?

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poker face is a concept that is mostly lost to us bitcoin gamblers because we are only gambling online behind out computers so we have to way of telling the bluff, or even bluffing ourselves which in my opinion one of the best parts of playing poker with most fun.

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Quote from: JasonXG on June 09, 2016, 04:45:59 AM

I was wondering. In online poker you can't see anyone so there is no PokerFace like offline poker. What sort of impact does this make on poker ? Does it make it more difficult or does it make it easier ? I know for people who can't hide that online is better but what about those who are good at keeping a poker face and reading other players faces or body language ?

This question is pretty much for advanced players with at least a few months expierence.

Online poker is very easy for manipulation. When you sit on cash game you never know are people you play against work together or not. Or its just one guy with multiple accounts.
In live poker its much harder to trick people around, its possible but with certain skills and talent. For online poker you just need to know how to make bew mail and account..

Live poker is much better in my opinion, and of course emotions works more when you take cards and chips in your hands, and not stupid mouse.

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Of course it plays a big role,it helps you not show what cards you were given,you can then trick the other players into thinking whether you have good cards and you can win more hands this way.

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A lot of pro players wear sunglasses why do you think they do so?
IMO its all in the eyes. The rolling Roll Eyes

happiness

some emotion, just by being a human can not be eradicated.
And this is where cool shades come in to play Cool

.
Online gives those shades to every one so the factor of poker-face is no more.
I think it makes the game a bit harder and soulless but just like Legitpoker said
betting behaviour observations makes a difference.

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Takes more knowledge of betting patterns to learn your opponent as that is the only variable you can get from an opponent online.

JasonXG

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I was wondering. In online poker you can't see anyone so there is no PokerFace like offline poker. What sort of impact does this make on poker ? Does it make it more difficult or does it make it easier ? I know for people who can't hide that online is better but what about those who are good at keeping a poker face and reading other players faces or body language ?

This question is pretty much for advanced players with at least a few months expierence.

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