Topic: Political Conspiracy Theories - true or fake ? (Read 1433 times)

Replying to the OP, all of those theories opperate with half truths. A common propaganda tool used quite effectively by right-wing fascists and political charlatans of all colours. Most of those theories are made by either people stupid enough to understand the modern nation-state and it's operation (aka "it's neo-libaral capitalism stupid") or by people with a hidden political agenda.

The government will not search for long time for that plane . Searches are going to be for month or two and than what ?
Case closed. Thats the point where private agencies like that one coming .
They know people are hurthed and love their lost ones and going to spend any amount of money to get some information about them.
They are using peoples emotions to get profit i feel bad about that ..

yes that one theory about freeing Iraq people from terror is familiar to me just calling it that way to sounds like the helping guess . But we all know what is behind that perfect words and big promises :/

I could say that US government made bad move on that one coz they only coused more terror by sending soliders to that war area , the soliders became only target for terrorists . And a lot of joung good American man's died in that bomb atacks or trying to save civils who didint deserv that kind of terror , I coud say noone should recive that kind of agresion . I watched one Tv show about non-pilot plains that US government are testing in that area's and they use robots to bomb on some "targets" that they think are dangerous ... and let me repet targets that "they think" are dangerous ...

You are really optimistic or you just like the show Missing too much. I find very few reasons for those people to be still alive.

Also I do not find any strong support for the assumption that MH370 was kidnapped by Mossad. They have too many problems with Hamas and Fatah. Of course, again about conspiracy theory, who knows.

And you are damn right, I should not RIP, they are just still missing. Let's hope for the best.

They were saying the Jewish took it, who know maybe the plan was to destroy the building with planes and they took the gold and before anything could be reported boom goes the trade center, by the way i was there when it happened.

9/11... where did all the gold under the world trade centers disappear too?  The largest holding of gold disappears and no one talks about it?!?!  I don't even think they try anymore they can just call anyone that opposes them CT's and the world thinks they are crazy.  Almost anyone I talk to refuses to believe anything but what the media tells them.

Jacob Rothschilds gained soul control of a patent when that plain disappeard... MIGHTY FISHY the most powerful family in the world takes over a very important semi conductor patent with the vanishing of this plane...

You know everyones defense, "I WATCHED IT HAPPEN SO IT HAPPEND" makes me consider maybe it didn't lol.  People... if you think everything you see is real.. oh dear lord do you need help.

Believe nothing you hear and half of what you see.

yea after numerous unsuccessful attempts, 9.11 happened. And even though it was the action of a terrorist group, rather than the actions of a government, the US used that excuse as a justification to topple down a whole government and execute its then prime minister, Saddam Hussein. The reasoning was that some spies of theirs found 'alleged communication' between Iraqi gov officials and Al-Queda.

It would also be quite interesting to note that US had been trying to instigate war with Iraq for a long time before 9.11 happened. For example, they have for many years used the media to publish articles about the many atrocities committed by Iraq's former leader, Saddam Hussein and making pleas to the American people to approve of a war with Iraq to 'free' the Iraqi people from oppression. (does this tactic sound familiar to you?)

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I read this artilce linked , and I can say there is some truth in words of Major general Alber N. Stubblebine . Aand I heart rumors that the picture of object that hit buldings is not looking like plain more like the racket or missile and for people it is edited and posted the way they wanted it ...

I belive in some of this story's .....

the title is misleading: politics is about conspiring at all levels as a matter of fact -consciously and not.
we live immersed in a matrix of conspiracies all the time like fishes in the water.

7-11 was attacked? Those bastards! Where can I get my wonderfully gross nachos now with all the chili I want?

About 7.11 - media shared wrong information . the information that US president and FBI and all other agencies approved . But Major General Albert N. Stubble is telling us diferent story . He say's that he can prove that it was not plain what hited buildings on 7.11.
read more about it on this site . Interesting article!

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/08/08/...ubblebine/

When governments hide the truth for whatever reason people come to their own often misguided conclusions. John F. Kennedy's death for instance is likely to have been a tragic accident. Instead of telling us this they come up with this lone gunman and magic bullet theory. The conspiracy theorists naturally assume it was something nefarious and multiple theories abound. The truth would have been an embarrassment but still better than a 5 decade lie.   

I would say Israel is controlling everything from shadows nowday's .. Check out this one story ... Im not sure 100% of it FBI official but interesting in any case

http://mybigfatanti-zionistlife.blogspot...oving.html

Hmm I heard about that "Molten Steel" theory and Im not sure how explosives fit into that one .... but nwm . People are speaking everything when they are afraid for their lifes ...

But for real is there a history of explosives melting steel ?
And how is it possible in real controlled demolitions are there some accounts of molten steel ? Or we can say pools that remain molten for days ?

did you guys read something about the molten steel theory it is realy interesting facts or Im not sure if we can call them facts take a look of this one

http://moltenmetalsmokinggun.blogspot.com/

I would agree with you on this one , it could be one new what normal people dont need to know thing !

But I found some informations that they found some parts of plain in water .But they are not relevant .
There is many theries about this one plain MH370 it could be captured by aliens or maybe stolen by Israel agents . Or yes that one maybe it was some missile testing area we never gonna know ...

And I dont want to say RIP for those people jet they are still missing not dead

How about the airplane MH370? Isn't it a good sample for conspiracy theory?

I believe that the plane was hit by some missile, then exploded in the air. It might be most its way for some technical accident but an act of destruction is the strongest assumption. Some army submarine might not recognize it so for security the poor plane was hit.

Anyway it is just one personal idea. But I guess most of people here believe that all States know what happened to the unlucky airplane, only people do not.

I know that belief in that conspiracy theories has become the main topic of interest for psychologists and sociologists since 1960 the time of John F. Kennedy . and assassination conspiracy theories whom became really wanted by the people . The main characteristic about his theories is to unveil "real but hidden"

When people find out that governments are hiding something from them ( if it is something big ) how can that same people trust that government on some little things ?!

The most conspiracy Theories are coming from US the most democratic country in the world nowadays what citizens of other country can expect in some less democratic system
I watched that North Korea projects how they feed people only with information they want ... and 10 year's old boy in North Korea thinks that their president is best soccer player , best chess player , best tennis player and he is going to live with that fact - sad story

yep conspiracies happen when a government are not being entirely honest and hide the truth from their citizens. And all governments have secrets they keep from their people. That is why so many people have so little faith in their governments these days. Even very democratic countries like the US.

I dont think that is less of a conspiracy theory but more like a truth that everyone knows. lol

The interesting thing about conspiracy theories is that sometimes they turn out to be true. Think about it, the watergate scandal was just another theory until hard evidence was discovered by accident! And it forced a US president to resign. If hard evidence was never found and the higher ups in the government manage to cover it up, it would have just been another crazy conspiracy theory.

When we are talking about conspiracy theories we need to mention this oil war's in the Middle East which are happening right now ...
I think that U.S.A is trying to make us thinking that they are going in that middle east to stop terrorist but the real goal is oil :s

everyone is nowadays running for own goals only :/

hey I also watched that documentary as well , like all the "first step to the moon" thing is faked , they try to reconstruction full expedetion , and made it to looks like same in studio ...

watch this one when you have time , 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1AUgb0kjcc

Its not strange, but the things happening around are strange.. but since we are not in power, all we can do is just sit and conspire about the things happening around.

High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program, (HAARP) could be guilty for floods on Balkan in Europe , but they are now closing everything just 10 day's after floods is it strange ?

I love the conspiracy theory that the first landing on the moon was staged! I watched the doccie about it. It highlighted the number of the rocks which were really props, the way the flag stood, shadows etc..It really made me think that the world could possibly have been duped!

There are from conspirations to conspirations, some of them i think are true, but also there are fanatic people of this conspiracies, that invent some that seems to be the next sci fi movie than a real fact.. ,.

To me, arguing about conspiracy theories is about as useful as arguing about the existence of God. I haven't yet found a way to prove that God exists and no atheist I know has found a way to prove that God doesn't exist. There are a few conspiracy theorists that I laugh at, like the ones who say that we encountered aliens on the Moon and they told us to stay home or the ones who say we never went to the Moon in the first place. The problem with those guys is that there's no amount of tangible evidence short of actually taking them to the Moon that is going to prove them wrong. Maybe it's just another case of the fringe element making regular people who actually think and realize that the official story might not be the whole truth look bad.

That's pretty much the case, I think the bombings we went to war with Iraq and Afghanistan over are highly suspect because the confessions by the 'bombers' were given after essentially having it tortured out of them so I must be a conspiracy theorist too, what America has done when it comes to 'gathering' intelligence is essentially act as the Spanish Inquisition and wanted scapegoats rather than the real people behind the attacks.

Some conspiracies are genuine.  Some are not.  Some are only partially true.

Determining which are which requires study and understanding history, things most people hate.

It's interesting because the problem is the label conspiracy theorist has been used so much by mainstream politics as a 'bad' thing where you have to be a nut case in order to think there are conspiracies out there but I think there's a difference between believing in a conspiracy and having circumstantial evidence to back it up and then being paranoid.

The best thing to do when looking at this stuff is to actually examine the evidence rather than look at the scare mongering and read the text properly, in most cases you'll see that a lot of these people who are making stuff up will barely ever give out any real evidence and instead make accusations and presumptions. Think of it like trying to read through a scam and I'll use the free electricity generators as an example, why do they not provide videos of the thing working? Why don't they release the method of construction if it's such a brilliant idea? When they claim that investors have seen it why don't they have interviews with these people saying that they've taken a look at it in order to convince people?

This exact same logic can be applied to conspiracy theories, the more you question somebody genuinely rather than argue with it, the more you start to unravel their bullshit because they're being forced to explain themselves rather than pretend they're being persecuted or censored ( another reason why I believe so much in free speech for everyone, no matter what ) that's not to say I haven't found some really interesting stuff out there. For instance, during the G8 protests there was a lot of evidence uncovered by people who were doing some real investigations on agent provocateurs and it was found that there were police officers dressing up as Anarchists and starting fights with the police so they'd have an excuse to go in and arrest everybody, the evidence brought forward to this were things like they were wearing the same type of issue boots the police officers wore and there were videos taken of people actually stopping them and they ended up going behind the police lines when they couldn't do anything. There have been quite a few admissions it seems by police that they've been doing it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAfzUOx53Rg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDbJlWnW-VA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PG8nJbDEaD0

So there's genuine stuff out there, but you just need to look at the evidence.

A monetary system designed by 4 people that owned 25% of the world's entire wealth (probably more that's all that was on record) that can not be audited...  is privately owned... does not have disclose their books.

It should be pretty damn obvious unless you're too scared to take your head out of the sand.

The world is today a complex and scary place and we are surrounded by conspiracy theories all around.. and these are the ones that actually turn out to be true.. Things work out without any reason and rhyme and stuff just happens.. It is best to leave the conspiracy theories aside.

you are absolutely right rigon.. People in power adopt certain practices and people across the world especially who are left behind call it conspiracy.. I think if they don't build some strict rules and guidelines, they wont be able to operate and then we people are only going to call them losers.

It would depend on the specific theory, some of them are pretty far out there...others are spot on!!! Those in power willing to do whatever they deem necessary to maintain control and stay in power is not really a conspiracy...it's standard operating procedure!! The conspiracy is keeping it secret who actually does have the power!!

Zolace If you like this kind of story's try to look arrivals u can easy find them on YouTube , they are Islamic way of thinking about the conspiracy T.

I feel kinda like James Bond when I read more or watch more stuff about conspiracy's

Wooooow , this video is strong !!!
That G.Bush bloodline thing is sick Idea

But yes the movie and the book Angels and Demons and new Dam Brown book named Lost Symbol , and prety much every Dam Brown's book is based on conspiracy and masons theories

I wouldn't be surprised if these conspiracies exist in some shape or form but I imagine that there are competing interests amongst the super elite across the world, so keep that in mind. The other thing in regards to going down the conspiracy rabbit hole is that it usually never ends and you end up doing untold amounts of 'research' which consumes your time and your mind. You won't be able to relate to people very much after indoctrinating yourself w/ a lot of that useless information. IMO, just follow the issues (foreign policy, gun rights, taxes, etc.) from the perspective you believe and lobby from that angle and people won't want to run away from you. That said, if you want to go all "Alice in Wonderland" then be my guest and check out David Icke and to a lesser extent, Alex Jones.

 Yes I believe .......

Everything is connected and everyone is involved...
Please look at this video and many things are going to be clear for you ! :$
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7iFjcIsiyk

I was reading one nice article on conspiracy theories last morning and in one moment I was sure for 100% that it is true and existing in world , but it is only theory not proved to exist , what u think ? I would only like to mention The Eye of Providence,can be seen on the US $1 bill ?!?!?