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Topic: POLL: 95 Percent of BBC Viewers Think Multiculturaism Has Failed (Read 1532 times)

legendary
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The United States has survived as a multicultural nation for more than 200 years, and apart from some odd incidents here and there, we don't hear anyone complaining about the multiculturalism there. On the other hand, the multicultural experiment in the United Kingdom only started some 30 or 40 years ago, and right now it has been termed as a complete failure.
legendary
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"Wake up"?  Please.  Don't try to make out that a bunch of bigots giving in to their primitive instincts to fear anyone different to themselves is the equivalent to moving towards some sort of "truth".  If anything, you're moving backwards.  Way to fall for the divide and conquer, fear campaign tactics perpetuated by a vile media and government.  The ones who are actually awake are the small minority who voted yes.  

If the majority of people were awake, do you really think we'd have a tory government in charge, currently orchestrating a massive transfer of wealth from poor to rich, selling off public services and peerages to their wealthy friends, all while scapegoating the poorest and most vulnerable in society?  The problem isn't multiculturalism, it's the disgusting, morally bankrupt, kleptocratic parasites in power.  The ones lining their own pockets and those of their supporters at everyone else's expense.

This isn't bigotry. This is simple everyday common sense. Multiculturalism by definition "the existence, acceptance, or promotion of multiple cultural traditions within a single jurisdiction, usually considered in terms of the culture associated with an ethnic group." This is clearly not working. Just take a look at the news or go for a walk in any major city in the UK.

As far as I can remember the Labour wasn't any better. (Actually I can't see too much difference between the Labour and the Tories.)
You know, it's quite easy to make a scapegoat from some groups when the members of that group raping 1500 girls, or creating no go zones for ppl with different views, or making a living from abusing the benefit system.
BTW as I've seen in the UK large part of the "poorest and most vulnerable in society" are the elderly working class indigenous people, but nobody cares, because of they are whites :/.

Indigenous people, hah!  Had to chuckle at that part.  I doubt that even half a percent of the UK populace could legitimately claim to be indigenous, assuming they could be bothered to trace their ancestry back far enough.  Also, people tend to work under the rather flawed assumption that "British culture" is some set, predefined and unalterable constant, when in truth, there's no such thing.  It changes region by region and year on year.  I highly doubt you care what the prevailing cultural norm was in your region 50 years ago, so 50 years from now, people in your area won't give two shits about what you think your culture currently is or should be now.  You'll just be another one of those bitter old people who says "in my day... [insert rant here]" far more often than would be considered necessary.  Times change, so does culture.  Whine about it if you like, but it's inevitable and you can't stop it.

As for "no-go zones for people with different views", that just proves that intolerance can work both ways, so in effect, those people trying to enforce their view on others are doing exactly the same thing you're doing.  Either everyone is entitled to have their own views and beliefs, or you just end up with one group verses another.  How do you figure that adding more intolerance is somehow going to help in that regard?  Maybe you think you should try and put out fires by dowsing them with more fuel?  "Everyday common sense", pffft.  Not even close.

Frankly, you are mistaken and that comes from a "outsider" Smiley

Overwhelming majority of British (2/3) can trace their genetic ancestry to paleolithic survivors, who settled there after the last Ice age. Later migrants may have brought culture and different language, but genes didnt go away (think Mexico or Peru).

Your take on your own culture is rather telling, that you feel uprooted, newcomers from developing countries such as Pakistan have no such dilemma. Through their culture they are bringing their country with them and unless you stand up for yourself, you will be "made" Pakistani too. Now, that may be natural. Afterall, in nature stronger, more focused organisms always subdue the weak and confused ones. You seem to be the latter.

There may be parts of their ancestry that can be traced back to UK origins, but other parts won't be native to these isles.  After countless periods of conquests by Normans, Romans, Norse, etc and naturally occurring migration over the centuries, there's very little chance in this present day that we aren't all of mixed descent.  The simple fact is, there's no such thing as a "pure" race.  Somewhere in your lineage, there will be outside influences.  If you want to identify with one particular group of arbitrary lines on the map, go for it.  But understand it doesn't grant you any special privilege to dictate what anyone else within your borders should believe or aspire to.  Just accept that we're all human and all have a rich tapestry of history woven into us.

I can promise you the only "weak and confused" or "uprooted" people here are the ones who feel threatened that someone is trying to wipe out their identity.  If they were as strong as they like to pretend, they wouldn't worry so much.  I honestly don't care how many people from abroad want to come and make a life in the UK and I don't fear that I'll be "made" or converted into something else as a result of them being here.  You quoted my earlier post where I said this is all just a bunch of bigots giving in to their primitive instincts to fear anyone different to themselves.  This is their fear and their weakness.  I feel perfectly comfortable, thanks.

More "thinking" and even less facts on your part. Okay, lets try it slowly. Mexico or Turkey are countries, that you probadly agree to have mixed population. Despite the fact majority of their people have native blood to varying degree. Culture those people were brought up in is also peculiar to those and only those particular countries.

So, now we got that out of way, let me ask you a question. If natives arent supposed to be able to set their own rules, in their own countries to live by, then who is? You? Some self-appointed moral authority? Of course not.

People, who are coming into western countries are fully aware of that fact, you may be appaled, that they are not giving up on their customs and prejudices but it is you they see as weak and uprooted. They are set perfectly well and history is proving them right. Afterall, if you are unable or unwilling to make your destiny, then somebody else will do it for you. Also works for running entire country.

I'm clearly not the one who needs things explained slowly.  Mexico and Turkey are indeed countries, well done.  However, there is no fixed, persistent cultural norm that applies to every single person in those countries for the remainder of time.  Different regions of Mexico and Turkey will have different elements to their culture, which will also gain influences from outside of those countries.  Mexican and Turkish culture will also change over time with each generation.  Nothing is constant, nothing is set in stone.  Your entire concept of "culture" is frankly ludicrous if you can't recognise that.  No one is surrendering any of their own customs just because someone else with different customs happens to reside within the same borders.  Some customs just die out naturally because most people don't care anymore.  Maybe you think that I should take up morris dancing as a Brit, since it's apparently part of my cultural heritage, but (to the best of my knowledge) everyone I know couldn't give two shits about morris dancing and it's largely considered an archaic relic of the past.  I suppose you think people stopped caring about it because some scary foreigners came and prevented us from banging sticks together?  Seriously, please get a clue.  Again, if you feel threatened by people with different ideals and aspirations, that's your insecurity.  Stop trying to tell the rest of us that we should succumb to your petty, small-minded fears.

Also, your question makes no sense.  I'm pretty sure you know that laws are passed by governments (which can consist of both people born there and people who migrated there).  They make the "rules", as such, but I don't see what that has to do with your irrational fear of different cultures who you think are trying to wipe out your identity and race purely by existing in close proximity to you.  I've spent time living away from my country of birth and I'm pretty sure I didn't inadvertently wipe out any cultures whilst abroad, simply by living my own life.  People don't actually have that mythical superpower, you absolute crackpot. 

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"Wake up"?  Please.  Don't try to make out that a bunch of bigots giving in to their primitive instincts to fear anyone different to themselves is the equivalent to moving towards some sort of "truth".  If anything, you're moving backwards.  Way to fall for the divide and conquer, fear campaign tactics perpetuated by a vile media and government.  The ones who are actually awake are the small minority who voted yes.  

If the majority of people were awake, do you really think we'd have a tory government in charge, currently orchestrating a massive transfer of wealth from poor to rich, selling off public services and peerages to their wealthy friends, all while scapegoating the poorest and most vulnerable in society?  The problem isn't multiculturalism, it's the disgusting, morally bankrupt, kleptocratic parasites in power.  The ones lining their own pockets and those of their supporters at everyone else's expense.

This isn't bigotry. This is simple everyday common sense. Multiculturalism by definition "the existence, acceptance, or promotion of multiple cultural traditions within a single jurisdiction, usually considered in terms of the culture associated with an ethnic group." This is clearly not working. Just take a look at the news or go for a walk in any major city in the UK.

As far as I can remember the Labour wasn't any better. (Actually I can't see too much difference between the Labour and the Tories.)
You know, it's quite easy to make a scapegoat from some groups when the members of that group raping 1500 girls, or creating no go zones for ppl with different views, or making a living from abusing the benefit system.
BTW as I've seen in the UK large part of the "poorest and most vulnerable in society" are the elderly working class indigenous people, but nobody cares, because of they are whites :/.

Indigenous people, hah!  Had to chuckle at that part.  I doubt that even half a percent of the UK populace could legitimately claim to be indigenous, assuming they could be bothered to trace their ancestry back far enough.  Also, people tend to work under the rather flawed assumption that "British culture" is some set, predefined and unalterable constant, when in truth, there's no such thing.  It changes region by region and year on year.  I highly doubt you care what the prevailing cultural norm was in your region 50 years ago, so 50 years from now, people in your area won't give two shits about what you think your culture currently is or should be now.  You'll just be another one of those bitter old people who says "in my day... [insert rant here]" far more often than would be considered necessary.  Times change, so does culture.  Whine about it if you like, but it's inevitable and you can't stop it.

As for "no-go zones for people with different views", that just proves that intolerance can work both ways, so in effect, those people trying to enforce their view on others are doing exactly the same thing you're doing.  Either everyone is entitled to have their own views and beliefs, or you just end up with one group verses another.  How do you figure that adding more intolerance is somehow going to help in that regard?  Maybe you think you should try and put out fires by dowsing them with more fuel?  "Everyday common sense", pffft.  Not even close.

Frankly, you are mistaken and that comes from a "outsider" Smiley

Overwhelming majority of British (2/3) can trace their genetic ancestry to paleolithic survivors, who settled there after the last Ice age. Later migrants may have brought culture and different language, but genes didnt go away (think Mexico or Peru).

Your take on your own culture is rather telling, that you feel uprooted, newcomers from developing countries such as Pakistan have no such dilemma. Through their culture they are bringing their country with them and unless you stand up for yourself, you will be "made" Pakistani too. Now, that may be natural. Afterall, in nature stronger, more focused organisms always subdue the weak and confused ones. You seem to be the latter.

There may be parts of their ancestry that can be traced back to UK origins, but other parts won't be native to these isles.  After countless periods of conquests by Normans, Romans, Norse, etc and naturally occurring migration over the centuries, there's very little chance in this present day that we aren't all of mixed descent.  The simple fact is, there's no such thing as a "pure" race.  Somewhere in your lineage, there will be outside influences.  If you want to identify with one particular group of arbitrary lines on the map, go for it.  But understand it doesn't grant you any special privilege to dictate what anyone else within your borders should believe or aspire to.  Just accept that we're all human and all have a rich tapestry of history woven into us.

I can promise you the only "weak and confused" or "uprooted" people here are the ones who feel threatened that someone is trying to wipe out their identity.  If they were as strong as they like to pretend, they wouldn't worry so much.  I honestly don't care how many people from abroad want to come and make a life in the UK and I don't fear that I'll be "made" or converted into something else as a result of them being here.  You quoted my earlier post where I said this is all just a bunch of bigots giving in to their primitive instincts to fear anyone different to themselves.  This is their fear and their weakness.  I feel perfectly comfortable, thanks.

More "thinking" and even less facts on your part. Okay, lets try it slowly. Mexico or Turkey are countries, that you probadly agree to have mixed population. Despite the fact majority of their people have native blood to varying degree. Culture those people were brought up in is also peculiar to those and only those particular countries.

So, now we got that out of way, let me ask you a question. If natives arent supposed to be able to set their own rules, in their own countries to live by, then who is? You? Some self-appointed moral authority? Of course not.

People, who are coming into western countries are fully aware of that fact, you may be appaled, that they are not giving up on their customs and prejudices but it is you they see as weak and uprooted. They are set perfectly well and history is proving them right. Afterall, if you are unable or unwilling to make your destiny, then somebody else will do it for you. Also works for running entire country.
legendary
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Leave no FUD unchallenged
"Wake up"?  Please.  Don't try to make out that a bunch of bigots giving in to their primitive instincts to fear anyone different to themselves is the equivalent to moving towards some sort of "truth".  If anything, you're moving backwards.  Way to fall for the divide and conquer, fear campaign tactics perpetuated by a vile media and government.  The ones who are actually awake are the small minority who voted yes.  

If the majority of people were awake, do you really think we'd have a tory government in charge, currently orchestrating a massive transfer of wealth from poor to rich, selling off public services and peerages to their wealthy friends, all while scapegoating the poorest and most vulnerable in society?  The problem isn't multiculturalism, it's the disgusting, morally bankrupt, kleptocratic parasites in power.  The ones lining their own pockets and those of their supporters at everyone else's expense.

This isn't bigotry. This is simple everyday common sense. Multiculturalism by definition "the existence, acceptance, or promotion of multiple cultural traditions within a single jurisdiction, usually considered in terms of the culture associated with an ethnic group." This is clearly not working. Just take a look at the news or go for a walk in any major city in the UK.

As far as I can remember the Labour wasn't any better. (Actually I can't see too much difference between the Labour and the Tories.)
You know, it's quite easy to make a scapegoat from some groups when the members of that group raping 1500 girls, or creating no go zones for ppl with different views, or making a living from abusing the benefit system.
BTW as I've seen in the UK large part of the "poorest and most vulnerable in society" are the elderly working class indigenous people, but nobody cares, because of they are whites :/.

Indigenous people, hah!  Had to chuckle at that part.  I doubt that even half a percent of the UK populace could legitimately claim to be indigenous, assuming they could be bothered to trace their ancestry back far enough.  Also, people tend to work under the rather flawed assumption that "British culture" is some set, predefined and unalterable constant, when in truth, there's no such thing.  It changes region by region and year on year.  I highly doubt you care what the prevailing cultural norm was in your region 50 years ago, so 50 years from now, people in your area won't give two shits about what you think your culture currently is or should be now.  You'll just be another one of those bitter old people who says "in my day... [insert rant here]" far more often than would be considered necessary.  Times change, so does culture.  Whine about it if you like, but it's inevitable and you can't stop it.

As for "no-go zones for people with different views", that just proves that intolerance can work both ways, so in effect, those people trying to enforce their view on others are doing exactly the same thing you're doing.  Either everyone is entitled to have their own views and beliefs, or you just end up with one group verses another.  How do you figure that adding more intolerance is somehow going to help in that regard?  Maybe you think you should try and put out fires by dowsing them with more fuel?  "Everyday common sense", pffft.  Not even close.

Frankly, you are mistaken and that comes from a "outsider" Smiley

Overwhelming majority of British (2/3) can trace their genetic ancestry to paleolithic survivors, who settled there after the last Ice age. Later migrants may have brought culture and different language, but genes didnt go away (think Mexico or Peru).

Your take on your own culture is rather telling, that you feel uprooted, newcomers from developing countries such as Pakistan have no such dilemma. Through their culture they are bringing their country with them and unless you stand up for yourself, you will be "made" Pakistani too. Now, that may be natural. Afterall, in nature stronger, more focused organisms always subdue the weak and confused ones. You seem to be the latter.

There may be parts of their ancestry that can be traced back to UK origins, but other parts won't be native to these isles.  After countless periods of conquests by Normans, Romans, Norse, etc and naturally occurring migration over the centuries, there's very little chance in this present day that we aren't all of mixed descent.  The simple fact is, there's no such thing as a "pure" race.  Somewhere in your lineage, there will be outside influences.  If you want to identify with one particular group of arbitrary lines on the map, go for it.  But understand it doesn't grant you any special privilege to dictate what anyone else within your borders should believe or aspire to.  Just accept that we're all human and all have a rich tapestry of history woven into us.

I can promise you the only "weak and confused" or "uprooted" people here are the ones who feel threatened that someone is trying to wipe out their identity.  If they were as strong as they like to pretend, they wouldn't worry so much.  I honestly don't care how many people from abroad want to come and make a life in the UK and I don't fear that I'll be "made" or converted into something else as a result of them being here.  You quoted my earlier post where I said this is all just a bunch of bigots giving in to their primitive instincts to fear anyone different to themselves.  This is their fear and their weakness.  I feel perfectly comfortable, thanks.
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"Wake up"?  Please.  Don't try to make out that a bunch of bigots giving in to their primitive instincts to fear anyone different to themselves is the equivalent to moving towards some sort of "truth".  If anything, you're moving backwards.  Way to fall for the divide and conquer, fear campaign tactics perpetuated by a vile media and government.  The ones who are actually awake are the small minority who voted yes.  

If the majority of people were awake, do you really think we'd have a tory government in charge, currently orchestrating a massive transfer of wealth from poor to rich, selling off public services and peerages to their wealthy friends, all while scapegoating the poorest and most vulnerable in society?  The problem isn't multiculturalism, it's the disgusting, morally bankrupt, kleptocratic parasites in power.  The ones lining their own pockets and those of their supporters at everyone else's expense.

This isn't bigotry. This is simple everyday common sense. Multiculturalism by definition "the existence, acceptance, or promotion of multiple cultural traditions within a single jurisdiction, usually considered in terms of the culture associated with an ethnic group." This is clearly not working. Just take a look at the news or go for a walk in any major city in the UK.

As far as I can remember the Labour wasn't any better. (Actually I can't see too much difference between the Labour and the Tories.)
You know, it's quite easy to make a scapegoat from some groups when the members of that group raping 1500 girls, or creating no go zones for ppl with different views, or making a living from abusing the benefit system.
BTW as I've seen in the UK large part of the "poorest and most vulnerable in society" are the elderly working class indigenous people, but nobody cares, because of they are whites :/.

Indigenous people, hah!  Had to chuckle at that part.  I doubt that even half a percent of the UK populace could legitimately claim to be indigenous, assuming they could be bothered to trace their ancestry back far enough.  Also, people tend to work under the rather flawed assumption that "British culture" is some set, predefined and unalterable constant, when in truth, there's no such thing.  It changes region by region and year on year.  I highly doubt you care what the prevailing cultural norm was in your region 50 years ago, so 50 years from now, people in your area won't give two shits about what you think your culture currently is or should be now.  You'll just be another one of those bitter old people who says "in my day... [insert rant here]" far more often than would be considered necessary.  Times change, so does culture.  Whine about it if you like, but it's inevitable and you can't stop it.

As for "no-go zones for people with different views", that just proves that intolerance can work both ways, so in effect, those people trying to enforce their view on others are doing exactly the same thing you're doing.  Either everyone is entitled to have their own views and beliefs, or you just end up with one group verses another.  How do you figure that adding more intolerance is somehow going to help in that regard?  Maybe you think you should try and put out fires by dowsing them with more fuel?  "Everyday common sense", pffft.  Not even close.

Frankly, you are mistaken and that comes from a "outsider" Smiley

Overwhelming majority of British (2/3) can trace their genetic ancestry to paleolithic survivors, who settled there after the last Ice age. Later migrants may have brought culture and different language, but genes didnt go away (think Mexico or Peru).

Your take on your own culture is rather telling, that you feel uprooted, newcomers from developing countries such as Pakistan have no such dilemma. Through their culture they are bringing their country with them and unless you stand up for yourself, you will be "made" Pakistani too. Now, that may be natural. Afterall, in nature stronger, more focused organisms always subdue the weak and confused ones. You seem to be the latter.
legendary
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Leave no FUD unchallenged
"Wake up"?  Please.  Don't try to make out that a bunch of bigots giving in to their primitive instincts to fear anyone different to themselves is the equivalent to moving towards some sort of "truth".  If anything, you're moving backwards.  Way to fall for the divide and conquer, fear campaign tactics perpetuated by a vile media and government.  The ones who are actually awake are the small minority who voted yes.  

If the majority of people were awake, do you really think we'd have a tory government in charge, currently orchestrating a massive transfer of wealth from poor to rich, selling off public services and peerages to their wealthy friends, all while scapegoating the poorest and most vulnerable in society?  The problem isn't multiculturalism, it's the disgusting, morally bankrupt, kleptocratic parasites in power.  The ones lining their own pockets and those of their supporters at everyone else's expense.

This isn't bigotry. This is simple everyday common sense. Multiculturalism by definition "the existence, acceptance, or promotion of multiple cultural traditions within a single jurisdiction, usually considered in terms of the culture associated with an ethnic group." This is clearly not working. Just take a look at the news or go for a walk in any major city in the UK.

As far as I can remember the Labour wasn't any better. (Actually I can't see too much difference between the Labour and the Tories.)
You know, it's quite easy to make a scapegoat from some groups when the members of that group raping 1500 girls, or creating no go zones for ppl with different views, or making a living from abusing the benefit system.
BTW as I've seen in the UK large part of the "poorest and most vulnerable in society" are the elderly working class indigenous people, but nobody cares, because of they are whites :/.

Indigenous people, hah!  Had to chuckle at that part.  I doubt that even half a percent of the UK populace could legitimately claim to be indigenous, assuming they could be bothered to trace their ancestry back far enough.  Also, people tend to work under the rather flawed assumption that "British culture" is some set, predefined and unalterable constant, when in truth, there's no such thing.  It changes region by region and year on year.  I highly doubt you care what the prevailing cultural norm was in your region 50 years ago, so 50 years from now, people in your area won't give two shits about what you think your culture currently is or should be now.  You'll just be another one of those bitter old people who says "in my day... [insert rant here]" far more often than would be considered necessary.  Times change, so does culture.  Whine about it if you like, but it's inevitable and you can't stop it.

As for "no-go zones for people with different views", that just proves that intolerance can work both ways, so in effect, those people trying to enforce their view on others are doing exactly the same thing you're doing.  Either everyone is entitled to have their own views and beliefs, or you just end up with one group verses another.  How do you figure that adding more intolerance is somehow going to help in that regard?  Maybe you think you should try and put out fires by dowsing them with more fuel?  "Everyday common sense", pffft.  Not even close.
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Europe will be the last bastion of "pure" whites. The rapid and unrelenting march of inter-marriage in the U.S already assures that in 100 years, whites will be a minority. And now with the flood immigrants from Africa , there will be no "whites" in Europe soon after, Enjoy it while it lasts. Funny thing is, Blacks will be there en masse.

There will be, we will just "democratically" turn Europe and US into another caste India or Brazil with light educated elite and sea of mixed race Unterklasse.

On the other hand Russia remains staunchly nationalistic, while China practice eugenics. Sooner, than later this should give them edge in global competition. You cant really outcompete somebody, who is more focused, disciplined and smarter. Not over the long run.
legendary
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excuse me, am I late to the Klan meeting?

You're a moron if you think that, also there are a few racist lurkers around here like bitcreditscc and it's very easy to spot them but I'm sure you'll instead claim this is a right wing fascist nazi forum rather than look at what people are actually posting given you're dumb enough to think what you just posted in the first place.
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excuse me, am I late to the Klan meeting?
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Europe will be the last bastion of "pure" whites. The rapid and unrelenting march of inter-marriage in the U.S already assures that in 100 years, whites will be a minority. And now with the flood immigrants from Africa , there will be no "whites" in Europe soon after, Enjoy it while it lasts. Funny thing is, Blacks will be there en masse.
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"Wake up"?  Please.  Don't try to make out that a bunch of bigots giving in to their primitive instincts to fear anyone different to themselves is the equivalent to moving towards some sort of "truth".  If anything, you're moving backwards.  Way to fall for the divide and conquer, fear campaign tactics perpetuated by a vile media and government.  The ones who are actually awake are the small minority who voted yes.  

If the majority of people were awake, do you really think we'd have a tory government in charge, currently orchestrating a massive transfer of wealth from poor to rich, selling off public services and peerages to their wealthy friends, all while scapegoating the poorest and most vulnerable in society?  The problem isn't multiculturalism, it's the disgusting, morally bankrupt, kleptocratic parasites in power.  The ones lining their own pockets and those of their supporters at everyone else's expense.

This isn't bigotry. This is simple everyday common sense. Multiculturalism by definition "the existence, acceptance, or promotion of multiple cultural traditions within a single jurisdiction, usually considered in terms of the culture associated with an ethnic group." This is clearly not working. Just take a look at the news or go for a walk in any major city in the UK.

As far as I can remember the Labour wasn't any better. (Actually I can't see too much difference between the Labour and the Tories.)
You know, it's quite easy to make a scapegoat from some groups when the members of that group raping 1500 girls, or creating no go zones for ppl with different views, or making a living from abusing the benefit system.
BTW as I've seen in the UK large part of the "poorest and most vulnerable in society" are the elderly working class indigenous people, but nobody cares, because of they are whites :/.
legendary
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Exactly, you can't force multi-culturalism to happen which is what a lot of these people think can be done.
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I can draw your avatar!
If you actually read the article and examples given, you can clearly see why Multiculruraism has failed, it is because of the segragation and very alarming distinctions made within the communities, enforcing their own culture within 'their' streets. That is why it failed, it is not a multicultural place, it is a segragated culture and with no respect from one culture towards the other. Not being able to 'drink' in the muslim part, not free to advocate your own relegion outside of your own streets, that is what I call a failure of multiculturism, Police that are actively supporting this segragation, that is wrong on so many levels. It is to be understood that hate still grows when we keep ourselves divided.
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multiculturalism = no more white people, all it means, all it has ever meant
The problem isn't multiculturalism, it's the disgusting, morally bankrupt, kleptocratic parasites in power.  
the capitalist parasites in power are the people who invented multiculturalism. you arent being anti establishment by believing in race mixing and getting rid of white people.

Wow.  I've heard some pretty far flung conspiracies before, but this is something else.  So you honestly believe that?  Someone in power is going to (somehow?) gain some sort of advantage by eradicating certain skin colours?  How do you even function in the outside world on a day-to-day basis?  However you cope, please keep it up, you're doing wonders for my argument that people who are against multiculturalism are a little backwards and probably have a screw loose.   Roll Eyes

While I agree that he's a moron, multi-culturalism can't happen through force or government initiative, some people are just more comfortable within their own cultures and there is little malice behind it and some people aren't.

Me being a classic example, I fucking hate my own country and I'm British, going to be interesting to finally visit somewhere I want to be Cheesy
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19 of the 20 BBC viewers thought that? The BBC is irrelevant. It is an organ of the British government.

Multiculturalism in America has failed.

It is organ of central government. That makes it all the more telling, that even they cannot hide the truth. Debilization experiment of West is failing, producing ever lazier, dumber population, in fact mirroring social failures of bygone Soviet union.

Homo Sovieticus was to be man without race, history or God. Savvy, smart, dedicated and superstrong.

He turned out to be mockery of those traits. Western man now follows in his footsteps.
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Wow.  I've heard some pretty far flung conspiracies before, but this is something else.  So you honestly believe that?  Someone in power is going to (somehow?) gain some sort of advantage by eradicating certain skin colours?  How do you even function in the outside world on a day-to-day basis?  However you cope, please keep it up, you're doing wonders for my argument that people who are against multiculturalism are a little backwards and probably have a screw loose.   Roll Eyes
the somehow is that by breaking down national cohesion and consciousness it is easier to turn common people against one another and exploit them
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Very bad results I think. If this represent the reality. Because not all the England people are BBC viewers. This is a kind or racism and this is the worst thing that can happen to the Britain people. I understand that maybe not all the extracomunitaries are angels but the most of them work and live normally their life without giving trouble to no one.
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multiculturalism = no more white people, all it means, all it has ever meant
The problem isn't multiculturalism, it's the disgusting, morally bankrupt, kleptocratic parasites in power.  
the capitalist parasites in power are the people who invented multiculturalism. you arent being anti establishment by believing in race mixing and getting rid of white people.

Wow.  I've heard some pretty far flung conspiracies before, but this is something else.  So you honestly believe that?  Someone in power is going to (somehow?) gain some sort of advantage by eradicating certain skin colours?  How do you even function in the outside world on a day-to-day basis?  However you cope, please keep it up, you're doing wonders for my argument that people who are against multiculturalism are a little backwards and probably have a screw loose.   Roll Eyes
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One only has to sit back and take a look to see what is really going on, forced diversity and multiculturalism is good for everyone I thought...Do as I say, not as I do

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Before Israel began cracking down on African migrants a few years ago, the Africans were highly visible in bustling cities, working in kitchens and doing menial labor. There are still neighborhoods in south Tel Aviv filled with Africans. Many Israelis complained they were being “invaded.”

Israel is a nation built by Jewish refugees, and those with Jewish ancestry are encouraged, even courted, to move here and provided wide-ranging assistance. A million Russian speakers came in the 1990s, and Jews from Ethi­o­pia continue to arrive each month.

But fearful that a wave of impoverished Africans, mostly Muslims from Sudan and Christians from Eritrea, would overwhelm the Jewish nature of the state, Israel spent more than $350 million to build a 140-mile fence along its entire border with Egypt. Undocumented migrants to Israel are called “infiltrators” by the Israeli government.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/toughening-its-stance-toward-migrants-israel-pushes-africans-to-leave/2015/05/14/e1637bce-f350-11e4-bca5-21b51bbdf93e_story.html
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The problem isn't multiculturalism, it's the disgusting, morally bankrupt, kleptocratic parasites in power.  
the capitalist parasites in power are the people who invented multiculturalism. you arent being anti establishment by believing in race mixing and getting rid of white people.
legendary
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No one gives a shit what the smallfolk think.

...as we seen from the from this poll what you said is only true for that remaining 5% dreamers and fools who still not managed to wake up and see how things are going in the real world.

"Wake up"?  Please.  Don't try to make out that a bunch of bigots giving in to their primitive instincts to fear anyone different to themselves is the equivalent to moving towards some sort of "truth".  If anything, you're moving backwards.  Way to fall for the divide and conquer, fear campaign tactics perpetuated by a vile media and government.  The ones who are actually awake are the small minority who voted yes.  

If the majority of people were awake, do you really think we'd have a tory government in charge, currently orchestrating a massive transfer of wealth from poor to rich, selling off public services and peerages to their wealthy friends, all while scapegoating the poorest and most vulnerable in society?  The problem isn't multiculturalism, it's the disgusting, morally bankrupt, kleptocratic parasites in power.  The ones lining their own pockets and those of their supporters at everyone else's expense.
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No one gives a shit what the smallfolk think.

...as we seen from the from this poll what you said is only true for that remaining 5% dreamers and fools who still not managed to wake up and see how things are going in the real world.
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A whopping 95 percent of respondents to a BBC straw poll have said that they think multiculturalism in Britain is a failure. The poll was taken yesterday morning during the BBC’s Saturday Morning Live show, and asked “Is multiculturalism working?” Just 5 percent said “Yes”; 95 percent said “No”.

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Multiculturalism and diversity is a failure. Diversity is destroying our white European heritage and only is empowering liberal democratic traitors. Democrats cant win based on their ideas, so they have to bring in this diversity nonsense. Its time we kick diversity out to the curb.
No one gives a shit what the smallfolk think.
legendary
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So, more and more people taking the blue pill Smiley. Actually I'm surprised to see such stuff on BBC. I'd expect them to sink all evidence of such results deep into the nearest oceanic trench Smiley. Perhaps they were high on something.
legendary
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Such polls usually have questionable credibility because people vote according to their mood and influenced by current news and events.
A year earlier, or a year later, the results of such a survey would surely have been different.
Ultimately, it's not really important what people think, but it is important what British politicians and government decide.
The survey results are often manipulated to achieve certain political goals.


True, but one thing you have to take into account is that the ones who do the manipulating are usally the ones who make sure the results swing their way, the fact that this has happened on such a big scale on the BBC is mind blowing. The reason being, the BBC is an organisation utterly obsessed with political correctness and it touts multi-culturalism all the fucking time.

So to have that kind of bullshit narrative completely backfire on them is very unusual.
legendary
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Such polls usually have questionable credibility because people vote according to their mood and influenced by current news and events.
A year earlier, or a year later, the results of such a survey would surely have been different.
Ultimately, it's not really important what people think, but it is important what British politicians and government decide.
The survey results are often manipulated to achieve certain political goals.
legendary
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I think the poll says more about people who watch daytime television than it does society as a whole.  If narrow-minded, isolationist, intolerant, xenophobic idiots want to pretend the rest of the world doesn't exist, or that people should "stick to their own kind" (seriously, what dark age decade did you just time-travel here from?) that's their loss.  If that's the kind of British culture you think is worth preserving, then I'm glad you feel like you're on the losing side.
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multiculturalism = no more white people, all it means, all it has ever meant
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Multiculturalism and diversity is a failure. Diversity is destroying our white European heritage and only is empowering liberal democratic traitors. Democrats cant win based on their ideas, so they have to bring in this diversity nonsense. Its time we kick diversity out to the curb.

There is no such thing as white heritage. This poll shows that you have to filter people who come to your country and make them adopt values of freedom, justice and rule of law. But it doesn't mean that Europe or America must watch their racial purity. Germany once tried it and they failed miserably.
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Failed in what sense? When was life better than it is now for any race?
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19 of the 20 BBC viewers thought that? The BBC is irrelevant. It is an organ of the British government.

Multiculturalism in America has failed.
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A whopping 95 percent of respondents to a BBC straw poll have said that they think multiculturalism in Britain is a failure. The poll was taken yesterday morning during the BBC’s Saturday Morning Live show, and asked “Is multiculturalism working?” Just 5 percent said “Yes”; 95 percent said “No”.

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Multiculturalism and diversity is a failure. Diversity is destroying our white European heritage and only is empowering liberal democratic traitors. Democrats cant win based on their ideas, so they have to bring in this diversity nonsense. Its time we kick diversity out to the curb.

19 of the 20 BBC viewers thought that? The BBC is irrelevant. It is an organ of the British government.
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People, I was merely injecting a bit of levity into the topic. Yes, I believe multiculturalism is an attempt to destroy what some fanatical minority members believe is White "privilege". You know, the White men who built the towns, schools, infrastructure, etc., and turned savage lands into secure & modern societies. Of course, if you don't believe that you're more than welcome to move to Baltimore, Detroit or Compton where the houses are selling for a song I hear!!

Minorities are hateful against the white man. They will destroy our heritage in this misguided attempt to make things equal.

Whites have no advantage over another race. That is a cop out for blacks failing. Even if whites do have an advantage, that doesn't mean blacks still cant succeed.
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People, I was merely injecting a bit of levity into the topic. Yes, I believe multiculturalism is an attempt to destroy what some fanatical minority members believe is White "privilege". You know, the White men who built the towns, schools, infrastructure, etc., and turned savage lands into secure & modern societies. Of course, if you don't believe that you're more than welcome to move to Baltimore, Detroit or Compton where the houses are selling for a song I hear!!
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Just look at a prison yard. People separate into their racial/cultural groups. It's anthropological. The only exception is when you are super good looking like me and women from every culture swoon at your feet.

Not just by women but all people... good looking people just have an edge over ugly, from any sex... its one of lives cruel realities, no political correctness given by nature... every culture though? I wonder if there is a listing of what cultures are most attracted to other cultures, and if there are any pairing that goes into negative territory when compared... now thats interesting...
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but this seems to suggest its becoming the way many american cities have become... complete flight of wealth groups into complete segregation, complete flight of ethnic groups into segregation... and no easy ability to intermingle... all like-minded people with no interaction from anyone else.

Because this is natural. We cant violate natures laws with some radical Marxist experiment.

Just look at a prison yard. People separate into their racial/cultural groups. It's anthropological. The only exception is when you are super good looking like me and women from every culture swoon at your feet.


lol. That is true though. Everything. Especially the last part.
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Just look at a prison yard. People separate into their racial/cultural groups. It's anthropological. The only exception is when you are super good looking like me and women from every culture swoon at your feet.
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A whopping 95 percent of respondents to a BBC straw poll have said that they think multiculturalism in Britain is a failure. The poll was taken yesterday morning during the BBC’s Saturday Morning Live show, and asked “Is multiculturalism working?” Just 5 percent said “Yes”; 95 percent said “No”.

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Multiculturalism and diversity is a failure. Diversity is destroying our white European heritage and only is empowering liberal democratic traitors. Democrats cant win based on their ideas, so they have to bring in this diversity nonsense. Its time we kick diversity out to the curb.

wow that statistic about all the white people leaving london and now its a majority non-british is kinda shocking... I mean forgot the insane costs of living there and all the international folks who flock for business, its shocking to see its stacked with non-natives as the majority... thats amazing... I guess I would deem it a complete failure too if my city was filled with a majority non-american population...

is the bigger problem the forced diversity causing segregation as people struggle to have some identity of their own... rather than allowing multiple pockets of segregation within a close proximity to form... instead it forces them to spread apart and have no interaction...

kinda like in new york I could go into the italian corridor, the asian corridor, etc etc... all located within blocks of each other and allowing you to freely interact, yet still segregated but on a much smaller land mass... separate but equal mixes all together?

but this seems to suggest its becoming the way many american cities have become... complete flight of wealth groups into complete segregation, complete flight of ethnic groups into segregation... and no easy ability to intermingle... all like-minded people with no interaction from anyone else.
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A whopping 95 percent of respondents to a BBC straw poll have said that they think multiculturalism in Britain is a failure. The poll was taken yesterday morning during the BBC’s Saturday Morning Live show, and asked “Is multiculturalism working?” Just 5 percent said “Yes”; 95 percent said “No”.

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Multiculturalism and diversity is a failure. Diversity is destroying our white European heritage and only is empowering liberal democratic traitors. Democrats cant win based on their ideas, so they have to bring in this diversity nonsense. Its time we kick diversity out to the curb.
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