Topic: [POLL] Cryptsy was Hacked ? (Read 6752 times)

The rollback was watched by all users on chat after they bought cheap coins..
The talked about on Twitter.. the only unconfirmed part was the guy who showed up later claiming he got a ton of BTC doing it.
And like i said before he seemed believable *enough* to take him seriously.

To this day i have no idea if he really did get coins off their servers or not.
It's plausible i think he could have moved many coins out swiftly before they caught on.

There is no announcement of hacking of Cryptsy. The difficulty in withdrawing coin has lasted for more than 2 months now.

If they were hacked there would another announcement. But i agree with you that something has happened.

Did they made a wrong payment, an employee going rogue?

I was just dredging up old drama to make a point.. they have a sketchy history of being inept and buggy etc.
i was not trying to say that they have been hacked NOW !
This topic is old now.
But it's valid for posterity.. this topic got me a 1 year chat ban on Cryptsy from Porn star JShock ROFL

A reminder guys.. Yeah Cryptsy was hacked. YOU all said so

yup just old news

is this real?

mmmmmmm hhhhhhmmmmm right 

telling BCX to use an exchange by Baritus ? ROFL

cryptoave is now one of the leading exchanges in crypto !

There is always cryptoave ^^

making an effort to drop it *mostly (aside from this topic bump)

my goal is not to damage an exchange.. but to point out how i think none are perfect little angels.
even though that is exactly what they try and portray constantly.
all a guy has to do is use the search box here and you will see what i am getting at.
what you will find and the crap they say don't match..
someone is lying..
and is it every person that ever commented here or the same guy(s) who run an exchange behind closed doors, doing god knows what ?

there is patterns of behavior and it will continue unchanged i have no doubt..

Spoetnik +1

Bottom line is Cryptsy was not lost any money but users have lost money on points roll back. (i was there and i have lost small amount too.)

ya and old timers will know what i mean if i say "ORB"

at the time it was the most scammy coin ever made and had caused the most intense backlash after they added it long ago..

ORBITCOIN:

What happened was it was an obvious clone coin / cash grab and the devs premined it so bad people were laughing and making fun of it.
almost no one bothered to get in on it because it was a 100% pos scam cone coin..
but that sure as hell didn't stop BitJohn from adding it ASAP right after the coins release (mid-last year)

i was NOT on their chat box when it went down but supposedly everyone unanimously flipped out (i was told the following day by guys)
and raged on Cryptsy for adding it so damn bad they pulled it within an hour roughly and never added it again !

Until the Nov 2013 rush of new guys showed up in Crypto..

Then they snuck it in Mid-December 2013 with no announcement.
I heard some rumors about what happened to the premine.. i have been told by more than once that the premine was given up to Cryptsy (BJ)

and that reminds me of a chronic and nasty issue these guys have done all along and that is..
they re-added ORB with no announcement of any kind and they do that a lot !
I had mentioned that a lot last year to them and they would try and ignore me usually, but one time i got a response from BitJohn (as Prime loitered with snotty remarks)
when BitJohn got really snotty with me about it and said fine ill add it.. there.. are you happy now ? etc etc
like hey quit whining basically.. pretty fucking rude and i will never forget that either.
The fact is it's simply common sense to make an announcement if your adding a new coin. (or whatever)
and i had told them i have seen new coins added *days after even though i hang out on their chat constantly (last year) with no warning in any way..

So think about it ? why would they avoid making any announcement ? about new coins or paused markets etc ? ..Market manipulation plain and simple.

Anyway i have a few doozie's i could mention soon
There is one stunt that is colossally stupid of them.. i have sooooooo much concrete proof on it i am chomping at the bit to post it LOL

But as people can see guys i have always tried long and hard to give these pricks another chance(s) and get their act together.. but they don't learn.
and keep pulling stunts..

you know it blows me away when so much dirt is out there floating around on them that they have the fucking balls to get in my face and run their mouth.

like wow i am stunned !

Dick's.. i HAVE credibility..... you DON'T .

use your brain..

PS:
Did i miss my apology posted here ?

Cryptsy Listed KEY.

Last bit of integrity lost right there.

Holy shit you guys list some obvious scam and paid coins.

Shame, Shame, Shame.


http://www.theoptimisticdivorcees.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/shame-on-you.jpeg

And which you have been told was false.
And which you are still repeating, even though you've been told it was false.
Then you acted like a jerk, and got banned. So what?


Very convincingly?
You've no idea who he is. He makes a references to having got away with $89k. You believe him.
In what was was he very convincing?


You talk like this, then seem surprised when you get banned?

I suggest you guys work on making your exchange functional instead of
sitting around trying to troll and harass your clients..

like how many confirmations for RDD now ? last i heard it was 122,000 or some crazy shit like that from the normal 999 <- WTF ?
shows where your priorities are *as usual.

so i suggest rather than trying to lip me off and argue with me after getting caught looking like complete assholes
go back to bumping your shitty little CLONE coin topics here you guys have a hand in (trying to bury this on on page 3 so you get the last word in too)

Cryptsy your a bunch if cocky assholes and its going to back fire on you i see clearly.
because you NEVER learned the lesson i have warned you about for ages..
and that is your playing with OTHER PEOPLES money !
you have no respect for your customers and you treat clients like shit overall and then get mouthy with them afterwards.
Who the hell do you guys think you are Seriously WTF ?

When you (Cryptsy) froze the WC market 2 months back and Mod's sat on chat with me directly for an hour or two as i kept asking why my coins didn't show up
and is anyone else having that same problem you could have spoke up.. but what did you do BITJOHN ?
What did you do while you sat there talking to me for 2 fucking hours ? YOU AVOIDED me..
until eventually you realized you had to say something publicly.. you couldn't stall any longer.

and guys you know what this fucking guy had the nerve to say to me ?
Oh well uhhh uhhh..
We're investigating a Fork on the coin and froze deposits.. he said
and this was at the height of WC's (White Coin) popularity and myself and countless others were arb'ing them on exchanges..

So what i did was, i came here and i started going to every exchange and i could not find even one word of anything about a fork on the whole internet !
and at that point i had been waiting maybe about 4 hours and he still even after telling me that did not make a Twitter announcement about freezing deposits.
and hey don't ya all think if there is a fork they would freeze the market like they had done every other time on a fork previously ? ? ?
Why leave open the exchange market while freezing deposits ?

So not only did i find his comment VERY FISHY and he would not say another word then Horus jumped in and told me to shut up
and that i was harping on it and the two of them insisted i drop it or i was going to get banned..
And don't you think the customers have the right to know deposits are frozen ? before sending coins and waiting like me ?

I HAVE USERS BACKS !

And i wasn't harping on it either..
Nor was i rude.. angry or anything i spent 99% of my time casually hanging out chatting waiting politely and patiently !!
i had waited while on chat WITH these two mod's sitting there playing dumb and quiet about it the whole time IGNORING anyone that brought it up AFTER me.
when they finally gave me an answer i had pretty well dropped it from that point on.. so they were trying to silence me to cover their *classic Cryptsy shenanigans.

They have done this before LOTS !

and there is even a shit load of topics with various other users bring up this exact scenario..

The classic Cryptsy Exchange Shuffle Dance works like this..
What happens is when a coin is at it's height of popularity or Bitcoin itself rockets up in value
they will silently warn NO ONE and freeze a coin for a day or two or more.. saying nothing on the Chat Box or on their Blog or on their Twitter feed or even on this Forum !
This pattern got so bad,
i started predicting it last year and wad getting my coins out ahead of time over and over avoiding deposit delays and told people on chat it would happen and it did !
i can think of two other guys that came here and made topics about this too.. BitcoinExpress came to the same conclusion independently and made a topic about this issue.
and so did another guy after that randomly..
So i am sure as hell not the only one who has noticed this Market Manipulation bullshit !

so..
after about 12 hours there was still no sign of my coins and i was never given any more info and they did not mention it on chat to users at all.
eventually my coins showed up and the whole fork crap was never mentioned online anywhere ever again and there was no mention of this
on their Twitter feed or else where.. they simply pretended it didn't happen.

STORY #2
They did the same thing to Doge users few month back too while i sat on IRC Freenode / #Cryptsy for over a week
and during that time i had IRC logged.. i seen an average of 1 new user come up every 5 minutes asking where is my coins ?
And i said to them coming in, lemme guess Doge right ? ..and they would say, yup.

During that time i seen one guy who claimed to work for Cryptsy no one heard of say it was fixed the week before and there was NO PROBLEM at all !
And i might add that i told every guy to go to the channel Cryptsy_Support as staff had always advised before and every person told me they got
no response from the mods idling their or on the main channel i was in either (cryptsy staff were idling on there and saying NOTHING for a week straight.. hiding)
then,
this mystery staff guy started mouthing people off and arguing with people and one guy flipped out on the mod / staff guy about it as i watched.
What disturbed me is i had no idea how soooo many people even KNEW to go to Freenode's #Cryptsy channel it was not advertised anywhere
and the volume of complainers that were flowing in non stop for a week+ was incredible !
And did they say anything afterwards ? fuck no.. they swept it under the rug blamed the user ran their mouth arguing and played dumb.

AGAIN !

Their pattern of bullshit in Crypto is fucking Colossal and Legendary and a 1,000 people can step up and say their own bullshit stories about these guys too !
I have not even begun to tell any stories to make them look bad.. if i wanted to ? i could bury these cocky mouthy corrupt deceitful profesionals with stories.
AND THEY KNOW IT TOO !
but i am being nice believe it not LOL

Cryptsy get your shit together and heed my advice and the advice of others..
cut the crap and respect the fact your playing around with other people money !

Cryptsy is STILL run by the same cocky corrupt two-faced manipulative lying assholes.. hard at work manipulating the shit out of this scene.
ya like i wanna "get verified" and deal with USD / Fiat with these fuckers LOL ..ya right hahhaha

Crypty staff go back to making coins and playing dumb about it idiots.
And yeah, you KNOW damn well i have shit loads of proof tying you to prob half a dozen different coins too !

So didn't even try to deny it.. i can bury your ass's with valid real world tangible proof to support it in a fucking heart beat !
One of your buddies kind of screwed you by admitting on the forum here before and by doing that implicated you guys.
You sat there and lied about TIX on chat etc and when iGotSpots admitted details about it later, it exposed you guys as well as leaked info i was sent
implicating pretty much every staff member.. they ALL sat back and helped make the coin and then played dumb about it.

I got the backs of exchange-USERS .

I couldn't care less what cocky, greedy, deceitful exchange idiots think..
you guys Should be on your best behavior if not then deal with the consequences.

Want more ? I have soooooo many other interesting little stories i could mention i barely grazed the surface.

You guys really have some nerve..
iGotSpots syndrome i think.. you guys pull soooooo much manipulative deceitful shit then play dumb about just like that mouthy wacko coin cloner.
I have even wondered at times if iGotSpots was a Cryptsy staff member in disguise LOL
Ironically both iGotSpots and JShock has threatened me with defamation before.. do it up.. YOU would be leaving with charges in court not me LOL

keep it up clowns..

If we had crypto-regulation you ALL would be doin hard time for all kinds of shit i bet !

Spoetnik, the whole cause of this entire issue originally was because you made a post where because of the way you worded it, you made it appear that Cryptsy had
been robbed for 89k.  You did not state it as " somebody told me"  you said it as though you knew it to be fact.   I approached you in chat asking you to simply correct this
as you can see by your own copy of that chat.  I see you left out the biggest part of that chat which was the reason you were banned.  Its not cool to spread false rumors
and I thought maybe you had just written it the way you did in error, but now I see you posted that just to start mistrust and uneasiness among users and the community in general.

This will be my last post , and just want to end with this:
Just so everyone knows the truth:

The title to your poll, "Is a confirmed and used Exploit resulting in cash profit considered a Hack?" is misleading just like your original post.
You are trying to put into the minds of all that we had a cash loss which is a flat out lie.

The user involved in this did NOT remove any coins from site, he did not "hack" into our system to make gains.
He took advantage of a issue we were having at the moment with the cryptsy points reward system, but this raised immediate flags
and was quickly stopped, reversed and any effected users were compensated nicely.

I was all for your posts earlier in this thread BitJohn, but despite the transparency, you have an official rep, JShock who "has a bone to pick" with a Cryptsy user, in this case Spoetnik. I'm just commenting from the outside here as I see it. Any trust that you have built through your posts earlier in this thread has been crushed by what JShock has done.

What you need to understand is that once you become an official rep for any business, your behavior becomes a direct reflection of the business or company that you are representing. No matter what business you are in, if you speak in that way to a customer it reflects badly on the business. 

If Cryptsy has nothing to hide, what is the need for an official rep to get agitated or frustrated with one of their users (Spoetnik) over something that would be posted over false claims? Surely by now you guys would know that talking in that manner to a user is a warrant for further trouble.

Its fishy we reply to folks concerned about issues? I was under the impression folks liked transparency. In this case I provided all the info. Not sure your making any sense.....

Bottom line issues I can speak to I do.

Some stuff we cannot reply to such as certain types of account issues.


Now just because your had an account issue doesn't mean your in this boat but in the instance of hacking etc it can mean a delay in responding until the situation is assessed. This is also the law in most western nations. So bottom line if I cannot disclose it I cant reply to it.

The other big one I cant comment on would be issues were disclosure may open up possible attack vectors to our networks. We have numerous procedures which keep folks money safe the majority about we do not discuss. But it has kept customers funds safe the past year and a half that we have been open.

Yeah it does seem quite fishy. If there was no problem as they say, then why would they worry so much about threads you've created on BitcoinTalk about the matter, the most likely reason is that they are trying to hide something.

i repeated what i heard and what i heard was plausible..
imagine how many orders were filled if it was at 0.00086621 (like it is now) dumped down to 0.00000004
and there had been activity in it before revolving around when those drawings were happening
before that myself and countless others were actually flipping them it was getting so popular.
and who is watching the full order book at all times ?

you don't think there was some big piles of BTC sitting there waiting scoop up cheap points ?

i don't know what happened who knows.. they have been vague and cryptic about it when it went down.

The point is i relayed what i heard nothing more.. what was i suppose to edit as JShock demanded ?
I am guilty of slander and i may be sued ? ..go for it LOL

Did i deserve to be jumped on mouthed off and given a personal critique about my past behavior and then rudely banned ?
You may not like me around here but i think anyone with half a brain can see i didn't do fuck all and i didn't deserve to be treated this way.

- This was handled very poorly and unprofessionally.
- I was never given an apology instead i have been argued with or trolled by Cryptsy.
- My definition of the word "Hack" is valid at least to some people.

Whether or not the guy had withdrawn Bitcoin then cashed it out for $89 is not the point..
Point was it was plausible *enough (and convincing enough) for me to repeat it, bearing in mind all the circumstances.
And anyone on chat should have seen it all said too..
Nothing the guy said to me was said privately so many people should be able to back me up on this !
 
They have been playing games *as usual since day one about what happened.
Notice how even after all this discussion they still refuse to admit the hacker had CAUSED the exploit to happen ?
They are bending over backwards to hide this fact to try and argue with me and make themselves look good.
I guarantee the guy triggered the exploit and THAT is what makes it a hack in my books !
Which proves they are not honest.
I would say it was a bug if there was no user intervention..
But the fact remains they rolled back the market and a guy very convincingly stepped forward hinting directly that he got 89k from it (he didn't say how)

I want an apology .

Spoetnik, are you sure its $89K and not $8.9K. I mean Cryptsy Points do have some value, but I doubt that there would be buy orders to the sum of $89K which could be dumped on. That means the buy order book would have to have around 130 BTC worth of buy orders. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it doesn't seem very likely.

Here is the original comment i made that got me veiled lawsuit threats, insults and general harassment.

Source:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7826865

This is the chat log from Cryptsy's Troll Box the other day.
Where JShock confronted me on chat..
I have the full log saved but i'm trying to edit out unrelated comments to keep this short.

PS: My first comment is my standard greeting i have copied and pasted a million times before all over the web.
      Which is a line i stole from "Catch a Contractor" a new reality show from the comedian Adam Corolla.

I don't believe it was a hack, It's more like a glitch. A hack would have had more serious consequences and loss of coins for the exchange + users.

ok i am all for discussion guys and for or against thanks for your feedback.

i swear to god i did NOT change the Poll question guys or the topic title
and i am REALLY seriously stunned you guys think i may have or that it's so far off the topic title.

i have never thought that there was a requirement to have the topic title match exactly the Poll question.
so i am sorry about that everyone, had i known you guys were going to make a fuss about that
i would have made the title and poll question match word for word.
Me ? I don't think the way it is now makes much difference and i wanted to make the Poll question more descriptive
at the last minute to make it fair for people to vote as honestly as they can (not being too vague about it)
I was trying to be fair !

the responses you guys have posted about the poll not matching topic stunned me so much just now
i actually had to go and read and see if staff here changed it on me or something because i don't get it..
i don't see why you guys are saying that.
I also would never go and change the Poll or what ever pulling a bait and switch.
Nor would i get away with it either considering there is a mirror / proxy type site that records these topics permanently *even if you change them.

I chose the topic title with out much thought actually.
I was treated like shit and never given and apology and it was all over the term "hack"
and it was based on incidents that is deemed a hack by some or not by others so i don't see how it's misleading.

If i wanted to be an asshole i could have made it self moderated and do who Cryptsy guys love doing
and that is pick a fight with you and argue and then if you don't submit to their will / opinion
they ban you..
I have had almost all of them do that to me on various occasions.
So, what i should have done made this topic self moderated and stated my opinion here and when they argued with me and didn't submit to me
i could then censor them and delete their comments ..doing what they like to do to me and others on the Chat box.
..the 'ole I'm always right because i am a chat box moderator or i'll ban you routine ..classic internet chatbox bullshit LOL

Anyway
These guys tried to do a little clean up and reboot in Nov/December 2013 roughly.
another mod that vanished at that time and when JShock arrived had banned me for because he wasn't in the mood for me" he said once..
and they both had the same cocky prick attitude too.. seems to maybe be the same guy is what i am saying.
plenty of them Mod's/Staff don't like certain people so they act like assholes.. simple as that.
They play games galore and i have 1000000 stories of it and PROOF too.
All of them have been involved with making and launching coins.
They have been caught red handed doing this and lying and covering it up all along
which is worse than making coins and being up front about it all i might add..
In fairness i think they (exchanges) all do it though.
Cryptsy is pretty ballsy though.. they really pull some cocky stunts then just play dumb about it later.
And you will get rolled to fuck and back while mods hide and when mods finally show up they will ban the victim LOL
I guarantee half of all trolling on their chat box is done by their own staff.

Anyway..
I am confident my Poll question matches what i was referring to with that specific Cryptsy points incident.
So i really don't get how you guys are trying to say they are separate different matters / issues.
I also don't think the topic title matters either.. your suppose to click on the topic an dread what is going on..
i would never vote based on just reading the title of a topic and i hope that is not what people were doing here.

If your don't think the Poll was setup properly then please DO NOT VOTE !

@snarlpill
and chat box "fanstasy" ?
then i will post the FULL CHAT LOG

This thread is pointless. The poll doesn't really relate to the thread at all, as mentioned. OP states he has good credibility but contradicts himself completely by having half of the story based off of a chatbox fantasy, Lol. The fact that you mentioned what an anonymous person kind of implied in a chatbox as Solid Proof is laughable.

Personal experiences- I've seen a few hiccups at Cryptsy but trust them overall. Guaranteed there are people trying to D'DOS and every other form of attack on these exchanges daily. I think they all do a pretty good job for the most part. (Besides that magical card game one...)

Hmmm nothing about this is true actually. I owned one whole CENT ever mined it on my laptop when it initially launched. Nice try though.

He changed the poll description pretty sure it said something else before and he will change it back after you vote to try and imply something is wrong. Bottom line he was banned from chat and he is mad so he is having a tantrum.

Exactly. The answer to the question posed is clearly yes.
That doesn't seem to have any relevance to what has been claimed in this thread though.

Cryptsy lost me at Cent when BitJohn argued constantly that it wasnt broken. Meanwhile he had a huge stash from Shak that he staked and took a colossal shitdump on the market.

BitJohn has done nothing behind the scenes that would make me think he's changed.

Cant teach an old dog new tricks.

It doesn't need to result in cash profits to be called a hack. Anyway topic is misleading.

Well actually IDK about this, but I voted yes because the answer to the poll's question is yes: "Is a confirmed and used Exploit resulting in cash profit considered a Hack ?"

you can call it what ever you guys want but the poll backs me up clearly.

I was TREATED Like SHIT ..by your staff Cryptsy

Because ?

I posted the truth !

What i said was 100% honest and truthful.
Whether or not people want to play games with verbal gymnastics or not doesn't matter.

Whether the mystery-guy's claims to have attained roughly $89,000 OFF the Cryptsy servers or not (in some form or another) is NOT the point.

He said, she said..
Who do i believe a guy who exploited the server or Cryptsy ?
uhhh that mystery guy has not lied to me before and i know for a fact Cryptsy HAS.

Further more no one on the internet uses the term "game'd the system"
they say "you were hacked".. don't play dumb games about it.
i know Interweb terminology pretty well ..so i know lol

The whole competition is trying to pick on Cryptsy because their jealous routine is a joke LOL
50% of this forum can probably step up and tell their own story of "Fishy" Cryptsy games & bullshit.

hey Cryptsy ..want me to post a few million other moronic ballsy greedy stunts you have pulled ?

reality check Cryptsy guys.. I have credibility.. do YOU ?
You don't want me to make a poll on that do you

Or better yet search the keyword Cryptsy here and look for yourself.. that should say it all.

You guys have habitually treated people like shit and screwed around with people's money etc..
and if your going to make a habit of it and get worse with it i will remind people off your notorious reputation.
i'm all for forgiving and forgetting and moving on but if you gonna keep repeating the same problematic behavior then..

and i will remind you Crytsy staff the only thing i want here out of you is "i am sorry" .

 Thanks for posting all this BitJohn.

 Yes, "gamed" the system would be the most accurate term. I wont bother to vote because it's not a hack in any real sense from the outside but instead someone apparently found a way to scam the rewards system (but apparently failed to get the scammed/stolen funds out of Cryptsy). Scamming (gaming the system, legal or otherwise) isn't hacking in any true sense, but whatever, call it whatever you people care to call it.

 Time after time Cryptsy has risen to the occasion, much to the anger and ire of it's competitors.

 No, I wont answer nor continue any further discussion in this thread.

 This was merely a statement for those not familiar with the happenings herein.

 I only see great things occurring for all customers because of all the competition in the Exchange business. Certain competitors such as Cryptsy apparently have enough class NOT to spread disinformation, misinformation, and outright lies.

 Of course apparently that's not true of all competitors. hence why I sign with...

 
Caveat emptor - let the buyer beware!

The drawings thing is a crazy anomaly that I have discussed in another thread at length and is also discussed in our blog http://blog.cryptsy.com/. So after the same guy won twice in a row we totally reviewed the algorithm and found it to be sound. So yes he actually won. Now this did lead us to change our system so the same guy cant win two weeks in a row. But heck folks have won the powerball more than once which is significantly greater odds.

Were the drawings competitions also gamed, with one guy winning on 3 occasions?


Hehe, expect an influx of users heading back to Cryptsy after those recent events. Anyway it's good to see some transparency here, good job.

Interesting but at least we know Cryptsy hasn't lost any money nor customer's coins! 

Thanks for the clarification and transparency. 

The market was gamed for a very short period of time the system flagged the activity. No funds were moved and the market was rolled back. Points are not run the same as coins different systems in place and infrastructure since its not a coin it is a reward point system. Anyone who profited profited from the gamed system and anyone who lost was likewise affected by the decision and yes this is unfortunate but IS the course of action taken. Of course we cannot replace lost opportunity cost.

I will see if we can work something out as a special to compensate folks a bit no promises.

Oddly this was some time ago and is likely only coming up now from folks running cover for something that happened recently elsewhere that is a tad more dramatic....

In my post 2 messages above yours, I point out that the victims of such a hack would be customers whose holdings of Cryptsy points saw their value diminished. Cryptsy would not be the victim. Can you confirm that the Cryptsy point system has never been gamed/hacked/manipulated unfairly leading to such dumping of Cryptsy points?

Problem is Spoetnik my friend your just wrong and this is obviously some agenda.

Unlike other exchanges we are audited externally and we are under the laws of the US compliance brings a whole new set of laws and oversight on us. Bottom line is Cryptsy lost no money.

For exactly the reasons StephenJH stated we would give more information on our security and processes but it opens the door for malicious activity. Next to BTC-e were the oldest alt-exchange out there tried and tested some hiccups here and there. We have 40 employees and are publicly facing you can drive in and visit for that matter. Choose to believe us or not everything about our operation is above board.

Spoetnik,
You're obviously smart and you normally shed decent insight in the chatbox. But in my opinion you've also been a bit of an anti-cryptsy troll, in their own chatbox, for the last year as well.

I was there during the points fiasco of 2014. I spent BTC on cheap points, these points being taken away from my account during the roll-back.[my btc was returned to my account] Was I a little upset? Yes. Do I agree with the roll-back? Yes.

Further, I would not share information on these types of events if I were cryptsy either. It gives other unscrupulous characters possibly sensitive info.

Judging from what you've shared it does look like Cryptsy was hacked. An equivalent activity in a traditional financial setting would certainly be illegal and the perpretator would be held accountable. The victims are everyone else who legitimately acquired Cryptsy points and has seen their worth diminished as a result.

Come on Cryptsy, open up and talk about it. When I got into crypto my impression was they were #1, whereas now it looks like Mintpal and Bittrex are bigger IIRC. (Though that may change soon for Mintpal, I'm guessing.)

A random anonymous guy in a chat box claims to have thousands of dollars, and that counts as a confirmed and used Exploit resulting in cash profit?
Want to buy a bridge?

The only response i want to hear from any Cryptsy staff is "I'm sorry" .

i have a chat log showing i was polite and took it all calmly and eventually had enough
of being threatened and insulted and bullied and eventually banned for no good reason.

I will not tolerate being treated like crap from any business.. period.

And i am not running a business and i am free to make any kind of assertion or review of any service i like.
it's my duty to the public to share my experiences with a service so they know what they are getting into.
Such as you will get treated like shit or your money is *possibly in jeopardy via scheming jerks running a *possibly corrupt service.

This Cryptsy guy JShock showed up some time around December 2013 i think.
I don't who he is, what other names he uses or his role there..
And if he chooses to come after me an explanation of who he is before trying to tear into me would have been nice.
Maybe he has no clue what has gone on in the last year and two months with Cryptsy ?
I do.
I registered 1 month and 18 days after they opened their doors.

They love playing the whole mystery guy routine and saying little about what goes on.. same on most exchanges.
They will lurk in the shadows and tell you nothing act like cocky big shots.
Being a chat box moderator at an exchange does not make you some big bad ass in Crypto sorry.
And when you guys make everything you can a big secret you get what you get.. speculation galore !

I don't run a service or coin in any way so i can say what i want.
You do ? then you are required to operate with professionalism.
Or don't your choice..

I could write a book on Cryptsy related antics that have gone on in the past year.. a foot thick lol

I support each and every USER out there that use services like exchanges and i will stick up for them any chance i get.
And i tell ya all, if something LOOKS fishy then too bad.. don't get caught in positions that looks fishy then (over and over and over and over)
get it ?

So uhhh is the same guy none of us have ever heard of going to Win the Cryptsy Points Prize drawing contest for the 4th time ?
What was i saying about things that LOOK "fishy" ??
But i guess i will get mouthed off intimidated, bullied and threatened with slander lawsuits since i just asked that right ?
Oh yeah and then banned..
Gimme a break lol
I don't suppose anyone else seen something fishy happen before at cryptsy eh ?
I *may have seen a thing or two in my time  

LOL you guys got some nerve

wait what?

Im gana say nah, it seems like this guy figured out a way to cheat the points system through some sort of trading between accounts or something, if he had actually managed to break into cryptsy and mess around on there servers then that would count as hacking.

oh man. thanks for sharing. hope we get some insight on this

I am sure many of you know about a recent incident (couple weeks ago now i think)
Where some guy had found a way to exploit Cryptsy..

I had been "given" info from a few random sources as to what happened and i pieced together what i knew and had posted it briefly (on another topic the other day)
So it seems now after i have posted on this forum the Cryptsy staff are in a frenzy insisting they were not "hacked"
Makes sense because if it didn't happen their name is getting slandered unfairly.. i get that.

But i can summarize what i have heard about the incident and then ask you all do you consider that a hack or not.. please vote !

I was gonna let this all slide but since i have essentially been attacked and threatened and banned ..here comes the drama lol

Cryptsy i might add, so far has said virtually nothing publicly about what happened and at most had left a cryptic / vague message on their Main Page Twitter feed before.
Saying they simply rolled back "Points" ..obviously trying to down play it as much as possible.

So anyway the short version of what i heard from guys who where there when it happened and a mysterious un-named guy
was that Points was "Exploited / Hacked" and some guy had figured out a way to pretty much acquire on their systems HUGE massive amounts of POINTS.
 - Note: Points is Cryptsy's exchange currency of sorts.. a points program of some kind i think (not sure what to call it)
So after this mystery guy had got his unlimited points he was able to dump them for Bitcoin to the point the market had been dumped down to 4 satoshi's.
What happened at that point no one knows *publicly aside from Cryptsy found out and rolled back the points sell order / dumping.
And i assumed they banned the guys account.
At that time a mysterious character was popping up claiming to have been locked out of his account and another person and myself saved the guys ticket number
and said when we see a mod we would pass the ticket number on and try and get the guy some help on his account issue..
When i seen one of the mods i posted the guys ticket number and said can you help the guy with his account problem?
i was banned on the spot with no warning by an unseen mod (prob Jshock i assumed) ..so that was fishy lol

So another week or so later the same mysterious character popped up and was saying his account was locked and he would not tell me
if he was the same guy as before i tried to help out.. it was him though i am sure of it !
So since i had the fish on my hook and i was pretty sure i knew what was going on and i started to poke and prod this mystery guy about the Points Hack..

I started by telling him many times i was jealous of what he did and he should just tell me how to do it.. and he kept playing broken English dumb sort of..
And after a little while he dropped the act suddenly and started speaking rather confidently and was no longer sad about his account being locked
but was laughing his ass off hard and in a great mood and saying directly to me little comments like "what do i spend $89,7404 dollars on ?"
So i am pretty damn sure that was Mr. Points Thief based on ALL his comments combined and the rest of the info i had gotten etc..

The mystery guy nor Cryptsy ever said coins were stolen and taken off their servers 'AND' i did NOT say that happened at any time either !
BOTH parties were extremely vague as to what happened technicaly so anyone on Cryptsy Chat seeing it all or elsewhere had no recourse but to speculate..
And my guess was he dumped points down to 4 sat's and got Bitcoin of course then quickly pulled that Bitcoin out and cashed that Bitcoin out for over $89k usd
I think that is a rational assertion to come to..

Bottom line is i did not post false information anywhere at any time nor do i ever.. contrary to slanderous chat box comments implying i do i just got from JShock.
Further more i have repeated what information i had no more no less... i did not exaggerate or add to it etc. (i chose my words carefully as i ALWAYS do)
As it stands we were all told nothing and the market was rolled back ..screwing some people in the process who had dumped to buy up cheap points etc..

So explain to me how i don't have the right to call it a HACK when Cryptsy has to roll back the market and a guy says he got $89k ?
Sorry but if there was no hack then there would be nothing to roll back now would there ?

So hey why did around the same time the SAME GUY win the POINT'S drawing three times ? Care to answer why that happened ?

People deserve answers.. i *tried to provide what info i had nothing more.
Maybe you guys running exchanges should be transparent about hacker incidents and we won't have to piece together info to figure out what happened ?
It's on you guys NOT me !

So VOTE ? IS a confirmed and verified Exploit considered a Hack ?

Further reading ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exploit_%28computer_security%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacking:_The_Art_of_Exploitation_Second_Edition