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Maganda basta trust nyo lang isat isa sa lalo allotment, profit, shares, buffer etc....
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Sundan ko itong thread mo OP interesado ako, pero yun nga lang need mo iclarify yung computation ng distribution ng profit at siempre dapat may buffer fund din yung para bang may alloted insurance sa bawat isa na kahit 30-40% lang ng investment, yung buffer fund na yan eh galing sa profit din.
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I'm really interested but siguro i-ovbserve ko muna yung mga resulta sa mga first members who are interested and sa ngayon may nakikita akong apat na tao bukod sayo na gusto sumali sa community arbitrage trading ninyo. Nakita ko na din yung latest gain mo which is 7% and I was impress but I honestly think that it is on the low side considering that we are on a volatile market, 7% is something regular in the stock market so medyo nag-expect ako na dapat more than 10% sya on a regular trading day not just a week's gain.
I have received their pledged amounts and it's already in my account. Hinihintay ko lang si samcrypto para mabigay yung sakanya and I think we could start the experiment. 7% is not bad with just letting your money run. It's always going to be a choice of being safe or being crazy about trading.

If you know something about trading like the different strategies, arbitrage, day trading, etc. They are all different and nag bibigay siya ng different returns. Expecting a return of 10% on a regular trading day with a different strategy is way different than an arbitrage one. I hope you understand that. It's not just on one trade, it's multiple of trades.
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Alam naman natin no assurances, pero I must say na hindi ko 'to susubukan isuggest kung hindi ko nakikita 'tong promising at opportunity na makatulong sa ibang pinoy.

1. Yung account mo ba sa Binance is KYC verified? And what level?
- A verified account with address verification. Sa level, wala na ata sa kanilang ganun except dun sa VIP trading fee, etc.

2. Siguro if we will consider your Binance account as the main account dapat may konting safeguard tayo kahit papaano like will you be the only one controlling it?
- I'm the only one controlling it and I only have the authenticator, email, etc.

3. For the community itself dapat meron kayong chat group or something para mas madali yung communication sa isa't isa hindi lang sa forum na ito.
- Pinaka madali is Telegram. Wala pang nagagawa kasi wala pa naman nag popost na interested sila.

4. And also when will the gains be distributed? Daily ba? Weekly? Or a monthly basis?
- Monthly basis siya. Mas discussed ko yung terms dito. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53961554

I'm really interested but siguro i-ovbserve ko muna yung mga resulta sa mga first members who are interested and sa ngayon may nakikita akong apat na tao bukod sayo na gusto sumali sa community arbitrage trading ninyo. Nakita ko na din yung latest gain mo which is 7% and I was impress but I honestly think that it is on the low side considering that we are on a volatile market, 7% is something regular in the stock market so medyo nag-expect ako na dapat more than 10% sya on a regular trading day not just a week's gain.
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For those interested, pwede na kayo mag post on this topic: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53961554



Maganda nga tong naiisip mo actually gusto ko nga rin itry tong gunbot kung talagang epektibo meron akong nakita sa youtube sa isang blogger bot den yun gumagawa bale deposit siya ng 1 btc after 16 days kumita siya ng almost 89,000 from the 1 btc deposit hindi lang ako sure kung talagang legit yung site ng bot na yun sa mga curious pwede nio ko pm baka bawal dito sa topic ni op. Kung matuloy to sali den sana ako kaso mas maganda sana kung hindi na siya for long term like after 2 weeks of trading may payout agad tingin ko mas safe kung ganun. 
Yung mga ganyan klaseng to good to be true investment, it's possibly a scam. 1 BTC - 89000 BTC, are you kidding me? Scam talaga yan lol.

Sa mga gusto kumita ng short term, mas maganda mag gambling na lang. Ang trading hindi basta basta at hindi minamadali except kung gusto mo mawala yung initial capital mo. Basahin niyo na lang yung official thread kung gusto niyo and basahin niyo yung terms.



Pwede naman ma revive, may nakausap naman ako dati na reseller at yung mismo author kilala ako (not personally, i mean, dito sa forums).
Si Gunthar? Okay. Siguro pwede nga natin gawan ng paraan yan, sayang naman. PM kita Dabs.



I'm interested in this kind of community account trading. Pero to make it more convincing siguro naman pwede mo ipa-sulyap yung gains mo from your trading history? Maganda kasi may background tayo dyan to see if reliable nga yung automated trading mo. Other than that meron ka bang assurances for not losing money on a fix basis or wala ding guarantee.
For results you could check this: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53887292

Alam naman natin no assurances, pero I must say na hindi ko 'to susubukan isuggest kung hindi ko nakikita 'tong promising at opportunity na makatulong sa ibang pinoy.

1. Yung account mo ba sa Binance is KYC verified? And what level?
- A verified account with address verification. Sa level, wala na ata sa kanilang ganun except dun sa VIP trading fee, etc.

2. Siguro if we will consider your Binance account as the main account dapat may konting safeguard tayo kahit papaano like will you be the only one controlling it?
- I'm the only one controlling it and I only have the authenticator, email, etc.

3. For the community itself dapat meron kayong chat group or something para mas madali yung communication sa isa't isa hindi lang sa forum na ito.
- Pinaka madali is Telegram. Wala pang nagagawa kasi wala pa naman nag popost na interested sila.

4. And also when will the gains be distributed? Daily ba? Weekly? Or a monthly basis?
- Monthly basis siya. Mas discussed ko yung terms dito. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53961554
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I'm interested in this kind of community account trading. Pero to make it more convincing siguro naman pwede mo ipa-sulyap yung gains mo from your trading history? Maganda kasi may background tayo dyan to see if reliable nga yung automated trading mo. Other than that meron ka bang assurances for not losing money on a fix basis or wala ding guarantee.

Meron din akong konting notes/suggestions and questions.

1. Yung account mo ba sa Binance is KYC verified? And what level?
2. Siguro if we will consider your Binance account as the main account dapat may konting safeguard tayo kahit papaano like will you be the only one controlling it?
3. For the community itself dapat meron kayong chat group or something para mas madali yung communication sa isa't isa hindi lang sa forum na ito.
4. And also when will the gains be distributed? Daily ba? Weekly? Or a monthly basis?
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Gunbot yung gamit ko. Sayang naman yung license niyo nun, baka pwede pa natin ma revive. Pwede tayo mag chat Dabs sa Telegram para mas madali.

Pwede naman ma revive, may nakausap naman ako dati na reseller at yung mismo author kilala ako (not personally, i mean, dito sa forums).

Pasensya na, wala ako Telegram. Meron ako Discord.
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Maganda nga tong naiisip mo actually gusto ko nga rin itry tong gunbot kung talagang epektibo meron akong nakita sa youtube sa isang blogger bot den yun gumagawa bale deposit siya ng 1 btc after 16 days kumita siya ng almost 89,000 from the 1 btc deposit hindi lang ako sure kung talagang legit yung site ng bot na yun sa mga curious pwede nio ko pm baka bawal dito sa topic ni op. Kung matuloy to sali den sana ako kaso mas maganda sana kung hindi na siya for long term like after 2 weeks of trading may payout agad tingin ko mas safe kung ganun. 
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LoyceV's Legendary 10 Month 10 Person 10 Altcoin Investment Experiment: Round 1, Round 2
Salamat sa pag bigay ng links, Bttzed03. Yun pala ang kay Loyce. Mamimili siya ng coin then invest and knowing that there can be consequences, it's still the opportunity to be part of that investment. Everyone should be willing to accept the possible risks.

@crwth I've seen the spreadsheet at mukhang okay naman siya. Para saan nga pala yung deposit address dun? Personal wallet mo ba?
Deposit wallet sa exchange na gagamitin, I will be controlling that account. In this instance, I will be using Binance as the trading platform since it has great liquidity.

If you don't mind, isang dahilan ba kaya ka nag-decide buksan ito ay para maka-lessen sa software/VPS cost?
To be honest, it will help me lessen the cost of my VPS (software is already lifetime and no additional cost is occurring) with the additional possible profits na pwede ma-ibigay with this community account. Pero hindi yun ang main purpose ko. It's to help other Filipinos na interested din na hindi na kailangan mag invest sa software and no additional knowledge. As long as you would be willing to risk that certain amount of BTC, then good.



Isa ako sa mga bumoto sa "Needs clarification" and sa ngayon, binabasa ko pa lang yung mga replies ng mga tao at baka masagot yung mga katanungan ko about dito. But all in all, I'm really interested dito. Actually, I'm not looking for profit. Kumbaga, gusto ko lang sumali para makita kung ano yung mangyayari in the long run at para mabawasan naman yung boring days ko.  Grin
Naiintindihan ko, ang maganda dito is we are just going to watch the progress continuously and possibly, at the end of the year, malay mo malaki talaga profits.

P.S. Kung bored ka, maganda mag experiment using the bot kasi andaming pwedeng gawin. Pwede naman kita tulungan.



I saw the spreadsheet. I think the PHP or fiat should just be an estimate, and everything should be denominated in BTC talaga, kasi iba ang rate araw araw, and if you are trading it on Binance, then in BTC lang sya talaga, or ito ang magiging base currency.
I already changed some of the portion dun sa spreadsheet and I think BTC should always be the base currency. Siguro maganda lang ilagay is yung may estimated account value.

Anong bot o software gamit mo? Meron ako gunbot pero hindi ko pa na gagamit, and I think I may have tried some other ones as well. Kung parang ganito, then it must be registered to you (halos lahat ng trading bots na active ay registered or personalized to each user.)
Gunbot yung gamit ko. Sayang naman yung license niyo nun, baka pwede pa natin ma revive. Pwede tayo mag chat Dabs sa Telegram para mas madali.
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I saw the spreadsheet. I think the PHP or fiat should just be an estimate, and everything should be denominated in BTC talaga, kasi iba ang rate araw araw, and if you are trading it on Binance, then in BTC lang sya talaga, or ito ang magiging base currency.

Anong bot o software gamit mo? Meron ako gunbot pero hindi ko pa na gagamit, and I think I may have tried some other ones as well. Kung parang ganito, then it must be registered to you (halos lahat ng trading bots na active ay registered or personalized to each user.)
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Isa ako sa mga bumoto sa "Needs clarification" and sa ngayon, binabasa ko pa lang yung mga replies ng mga tao at baka masagot yung mga katanungan ko about dito. But all in all, I'm really interested dito. Actually, I'm not looking for profit. Kumbaga, gusto ko lang sumali para makita kung ano yung mangyayari in the long run at para mabawasan naman yung boring days ko.  Grin
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Hindi ko pa nababasa yung kela Loyce na ganito. Meron din ba sila? Pwede pa share naman kung sino may alam ng link. Gawing reference ko na lang din yung iba kung pano nila ginagawa.
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LoyceV's Legendary 10 Month 10 Person 10 Altcoin Investment Experiment: Round 1, Round 2

(Salamat @ralle14 sa title at mas napadai ang paghahanap)



@crwth I've seen the spreadsheet at mukhang okay naman siya. Para saan nga pala yung deposit address dun? Personal wallet mo ba?

If you don't mind, isang dahilan ba kaya ka nag-decide buksan ito ay para maka-lessen sa software/VPS cost? Hindi ako pamilyar sa mga cost nito kaya I'll depend muna sa judgement ng iba about sa 30/70 cut. Still interested to throw in a few.
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Wala pa din akong gaanong alam sa ganitong bagay pero isa ito sa gusto kong matutunan at siguro try ko din sumali sa gagawin mo OP.  Antayin ko po yung formal thread niyo.
Kung ipapa-trade niyo sakin yung BTC niyo, possible na papakita ko yung mga nangyari on the account. Possible another thread yung mga technical terms and strategies.



Yung 10 month hold din nila Loyce yung naalala ko pagkatapos basahin yung OP.
Hindi ko pa nababasa yung kela Loyce na ganito. Meron din ba sila? Pwede pa share naman kung sino may alam ng link. Gawing reference ko na lang din yung iba kung pano nila ginagawa.

Para sa akin maganda pag public kasi yung iba baka maging interesado rin sumali sa susunod if ever na magkaroon ng panibagong opportunity. 
Sabagay. Para may ma-attract sumali at mas maganda na madami din para mas malaki yung funds tendency mas malaki yung possible to profit kasi more coins to trade.
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  • Who will decide which coins to invest the pooled funds? (Parang may ganito ng experiment dati si Loyce, parehas lang ba?)
Yung 10 month hold din nila Loyce yung naalala ko pagkatapos basahin yung OP.

Interesado rin ako sumali dahil baka mauna pa ito magsimula kaysa doon sa kabila may continuation sila pero kakaunti pa lang kasali.

So based sa mga questions na nandito sa topic na 'to, paki tingin nga ang spreadsheet na 'to. Hindi ito magiging official spreedsheet. Iniisip ko pa kung magandang maging public ba yung mga nag deposit and if they want to publicize it or something.
Para sa akin maganda pag public kasi yung iba baka maging interesado rin sumali sa susunod if ever na magkaroon ng panibagong opportunity.  
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Tiyaka willing ba kayo mag deposit to trade with your money?

Wala pa din akong gaanong alam sa ganitong bagay pero isa ito sa gusto kong matutunan at siguro try ko din sumali sa gagawin mo OP.  Antayin ko po yung formal thread niyo.
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So based sa mga questions na nandito sa topic na 'to, paki tingin nga ang spreadsheet na 'to. Hindi ito magiging official spreedsheet. Iniisip ko pa kung magandang maging public ba yung mga nag deposit and if they want to publicize it or something.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nzj3yvHt6yGH9zy2a_qmEdO8f7_KK_78dEUHK42tdJ4/edit?usp=sharing

Meron akong profit share for the services, 30% (Maintenance, software license, VPS, etc). 70% sa profits ay sa depositor

Ang kinagandahan nito is hindi niyo na kailangan bumili ng software and you just have to wait and see sa progress.

There would be no minimum deposit (as long as you are willing to deposit that)



Who will handle the funds?
I will be handling accounts in my Binance account.

Who will decide which coins to invest the pooled funds? (Parang may ganito ng experiment dati si Loyce, parehas lang ba?)
Ang trading strategy na meron ako is Arbitrage Mode. Just like what I posted dito sa topic na 'to. Balak ko ganun din gawin ko for this month.

Tanggalin mo na lang siguro yung "sure profit" sa OP dahil alam naman natin na wala pa din kasiguraduhan.
It's still not the official topic to do it yet, I'm still checking if there are members here who are interested in depositing and trusting me with their funds.



I don't mind entrusting my fund sa iyo cwrth, proven na naman na isa ka sa reputable member sa ating community but nag-aalala lang ako sa iyo since may kakilala ako na ganito ang ginawa, he is a reputable member sa kanilang community and then pinasok nya ang ganitong activity.  Nagkaroon ng problema ang market at nagcrash ito, kaya hindi man nya gusto ang mga nangyari ay napilitan siyang abonohan ang mga taong nagtiwala sa kanya. 
Salamat sa pag sabi na mag titiwala ka ng ganiyan. Lahat ay may kasamang risk and kung willing ang mga investors mag deposit then sana maintindihan na posibleng maging negative ang profit pero it's always in the long run.

If ever na itutuloy mo ito just make sure na may written aggrement kayo ng mga sasali sa program na ito.  It is better na mapaghandaan ng husto at maipalaiwanang ang mga possibility ng mga hindi inaasahang mangyari para hindi ka maipit sa mga investors. At pag-isipan mong mabuti ang Terms of Agreement na mapagkakasunduan nyo ng client mo na hindi maagrbayado ang both party.
Mas okay nga may agreement talaga. Iisipin ko pa kung paano ito mangyayari pero noted na ito sa mga dapat kasama para maging maayos ang programang ito.



Just to be clear kabayan, nag automatic trading ka gamit ang sarili mong pera with profit?
Yes, katulad ng reply ko kay Bttzed03, ginamit ko ang aking binance account for that. Eto yung post ko

Sa totoo lang, nakaka turn off ang linya na yan kabayan...
Naiintindihan ko. What I meant by that is making sure na may profit instead of risking a lot. Parang ganito

Risking 1 dollar instead of 100 dollars per trade. At least kahit mag kamali, hindi muna ganun kalaki ang mawala sa account. Kahit small increments like 1% in a month, at least positive.

Bihira ako mag trade so di ako magpepretend na alam ko lahat pero willing ako [baka] itry ito pero dipende parin sa whole picture nito [e.g. software, minimum investment at iba...].
Sige, so masasabi ko interested ka. Siguro pag may formal na thread na 'to at nagawan na ng paraan, pwede na itong subukan.



Madali lang mag compute, just use a spreadsheet, alam mo yung contribution ng bawat isa at percentage of the total, down to the nearest satoshi. Lagyan mo ng fee, like 1% or whatever, or just round up the satoshis. No one is going to complain they lost 0.0000 0001 and also if they want to withdraw, syempre meron transaction fee din naman, so at least 200 sats na yun, unless batching ang gawin mo.
Pa check naman ng spreadsheet ko if may kulang or may dapat tanggalin or kung pano.

Yung ibang reply ko sainyo Dabs ay nasa taas.



Saka no risk? Parang mahirap na makahanap ng ganong investment ngayon ah.
Marami sasali dito kung sakaling makita nga na pure profit lang ang pumapasok.
Alam naman natin na walang perpektong bagay at lahat may risk. Wala naman sinabing no risk involved. Kaya nga din siya investment. This is pure survey kung meron bang interested.

Mutual funds ay meron din risk sir.
Ang tinutukoy ko sa mutual funds is yung kung pano yung calculation nila on how they are trading the investors money. I know about mutual funds but not how they are calculating the profit on each investors.

I posted more details on this sa taas. Paki check na lang.

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Sa explanation pa lang ni Dabs eh nahilo na ako.
Malaking trabaho ito.

Saka no risk? Parang mahirap na makahanap ng ganong investment ngayon ah.
Marami sasali dito kung sakaling makita nga na pure profit lang ang pumapasok.

Mutual funds ay meron din risk sir.
They are just making it look like there is none but there is once it is explain thoroughly.
Same goes with trading naman di ba?
Pero follow ko to, baka sakali ma-explain ng todo ni crwth kung papaano.
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I did something like this before, but it was "invested" in a gambling site. They trusted me to run my strategy, with full knowledge that it will eventually fail, but they can exit any time if it hasn't failed yet that day. I think umabot ng mahigit 11 BTC at the top, then in one bet, (the last bet, of course), nawala lahat. Kasi nga, martingale, lumalaki yung bet pag natatalo, para mabawi.

It could not sustain 7 losses in a row. Mga 2013 yun.

Madali lang mag compute, just use a spreadsheet, alam mo yung contribution ng bawat isa at percentage of the total, down to the nearest satoshi. Lagyan mo ng fee, like 1% or whatever, or just round up the satoshis. No one is going to complain they lost 0.0000 0001 and also if they want to withdraw, syempre meron transaction fee din naman, so at least 200 sats na yun, unless batching ang gawin mo.

If you were to do some sort of automated trading, that means meron ka bot or other software and it's continuously doing ping-pong orders (buy low, sell high) all day.

Other concern is, anong site o exchange mo ito gagawin?

Hindi naman kasi pwede na naka escrow yan, eh papano magagamit ang coins unless ma deposit sa account. The closest thing is the personal (or community) account controlled by you.

Pwede lang yan siguro kung kumuha ka ng loan at gawin DAI, so meron CDP o Collateralized Debt Position, which you either use to buy more ETH or BTC then use that to fund the trading account. Hindi ko lang alam if that would make any difference than directly using whatever you collect.
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I have been experimenting different strategies and ngayon, I may have discovered a great strategy that works (hopefully in the long run like a year or so) and I'm just seeing the possibilities na pwedeng gawin with it.
Just to be clear kabayan, nag automatic trading ka gamit ang sarili mong pera with profit?

  • Basta sure profit and hindi ma risk yung funds (excluding exchange hack etc)
Sa totoo lang, nakaka turn off ang linya na yan kabayan...

Tiyaka willing ba kayo mag deposit to trade with your money?
Bihira ako mag trade so di ako magpepretend na alam ko lahat pero willing ako [baka] itry ito pero dipende parin sa whole picture nito [e.g. software, minimum investment at iba...].
legendary
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I don't mind entrusting my fund sa iyo cwrth, proven na naman na isa ka sa reputable member sa ating community but nag-aalala lang ako sa iyo since may kakilala ako na ganito ang ginawa, he is a reputable member sa kanilang community and then pinasok nya ang ganitong activity.  Nagkaroon ng problema ang market at nagcrash ito, kaya hindi man nya gusto ang mga nangyari ay napilitan siyang abonohan ang mga taong nagtiwala sa kanya.  

If ever na itutuloy mo ito just make sure na may written aggrement kayo ng mga sasali sa program na ito.  It is better na mapaghandaan ng husto at maipalaiwanang ang mga possibility ng mga hindi inaasahang mangyari para hindi ka maipit sa mga investors. At pag-isipan mong mabuti ang Terms of Agreement na mapagkakasunduan nyo ng client mo na hindi maagrbayado ang both party.

Anyway I hope you good luck if may development keep us updated , isa  ako sa interesado sa programa mo.
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Voted yes even though I have few questions/suggestions.
  • Who will handle the funds?
  • Who will decide which coins to invest the pooled funds? (Parang may ganito ng experiment dati si Loyce, parehas lang ba?)

Profit distribution should always be based on amount deposited by each investor.

Tanggalin mo na lang siguro yung "sure profit" sa OP dahil alam naman natin na wala pa din kasiguraduhan. Posibleng may 99% pero walang 100% certainty sa lahat ng oras. Anyone who would invest here should understand that there is still risk involve.

Hindi ko makuha yung "Calculating your total percentage with different number of depositors"
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I have been experimenting different strategies and ngayon, I may have discovered a great strategy that works (hopefully in the long run like a year or so) and I'm just seeing the possibilities na pwedeng gawin with it. Maybe like establishing an account with a pool of funds and profiting together?

Things to consider
  • Distributed profits according to the allocated/deposited amount.
  • Basta sure profit and hindi ma risk yung funds (excluding exchange hack etc)
  • Calculating your total percentage with different number of depositors

Hindi ko pa sure kung pano i-approach 'to, so suggestions are welcome and we could monitor the progress. Parang mutual funds? Sino ba may alam dito ng related dito?

Tiyaka willing ba kayo mag deposit to trade with your money?
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