Topic: [ POLL ] Who Will Be Democratic Party Presidential Nominee: Sanders or Biden ? (Read 776 times)

Not old. Smart. Trump is smart. Biden isn't.     

Biden couldn't commit to running for a 2nd term on a debate stage which is troubling. We haven't had a President in recent history that has refused to run for a 2nd term and who knows if Biden's gonna bid for reelection if he wins. 77 is old. He isn't even elected to a first term yet. To be fair Trump is around 73 so for some reason America has an obsession with nominating old people. Obama was a young first term senator and he was the exception.

Biden is the stand alone candidate for the Democratic Party.

If the elections go ahead in November 2020 then will Trump be known as a one term President? Will Biden manage to win?

Interesting battle between the incumbent Trump who is the oldest ever President of the USA (will be 74 years old after a week) and one of the oldest challengers for the post in Biden who will be 78 years old a couple of weeks after the 3rd November 2020 election.

It is looking like the end of the road for sanders now. I never thought he would gain so much momentum and would be getting this far. I thought Warren might have had a chance but I wrote off both Biden and Sanders, I was wrong on all of them.

Now is probably the time for Sanders to make a deal with Biden. If he backs Biden and pulls out of the race he might get Secretary of State position providing Biden wins the race to the Whitehouse in November. I think with them both being in their 70s this is the last chance for them and both will not be fighting for the nominee position again.

Biden has it. Even Sanders is tossing his strength to Biden. They both are like thieves, ready to plunder an ignorant American culture.

@squatz1 I’ll second that as I too believe that Sanders campaign is coming to an end, but he has earned my respect for fighting for so long despite knowing that the entire party was always rallying against him. Now I believe he’ll bow out soon and the entire party will rally behind Biden, and if Biden can get Sanders on board then Trump will have a major problem to deal with. What do you’ll think of this Biden and Sanders reach some kind of compromise, and they attack Trump together won’t it hurt Trump’s vote share?.

Source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/campaign-signals-sanders-may-be-open-to-exit/2020/03/18/9cd71a1a-692f-11ea-b313-df458622c2cc_story.html

This is literally the end of this. Biden is going to win (bar some sort of illness, major scandal, etc) The only reason I see Sanders staying in is to be able to get something out of the administration, or to get Biden to change certain policies that he'll implement and he can tell his supporters he did something.

Sanders (IMO) is a little too old to be running for President again, so this is probably his last chance. He probably is hoping for some sort of extraordinary circumstances to help him out here. Or a cabinet role, like I said before. VP is off the table, as Biden has said that HE WILL pick a woman to be his VP.

LATEST UPDATE:

Sanders has 885 delegates
Biden has 1180 delegates


Biden wins Florida, Illinois and Arizona and with a huge lead it appears he will be reaching the 1991 delegates number first if the race continued.

Sanders is facing calls for him to drop out to give Biden the chance to start working on the November Presidential elections preparation now.

The interesting thing is, that one link isn't the only link.

The point is, you don't take the son of a traitor, no matter how good he looks, and place him in the top position in the country... except if you are completely nuts... like most of America.

And yet his son almost dies fighting in that war. Really?

It's not what you don't know that fucks with you. It's what you know that ain't so that simply messes with your thinking.

LATEST UPDATE:

Sanders has 743 delegates
Biden has 894 delegates

I mean, if we can elect two presidents (the Bush's) knowing that their father/grandfather (Prescott Bush - https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar) supported Hitler in WW2 in a big way, who cares which of these two peons (Sanders, Biden) gets into office? It's American stupidity that makes Americans even think about such crooks as Sanders and Biden.

LATEST UPDATE:

Sanders has 736 delegates
Biden has 890 delegates

11 votes in the poll so far

3 votes for Sanders
8 votes for Biden

Tulsi has 2 delegates so if they die, Tulsi will be president. 

LATEST UPDATE:

Sanders has 725 delegates
Biden has 881 delegates

LATEST UPDATE: 11th March 2020

Sanders has 710 delegates
Biden has 860 delegates

Biden will be it.

Most people don't look at details. All they see is a name. Both Trump and the Dem leaders have been throwing the Biden name around for months and years... to say nothing about his former vice-presidency. People have seen it and will vote it.

Look at all the bad Russia stuff against Biden and his son. But nobody has arrested him/them, so it's all fake news. If Biden can overcome all this, he will make a strong President.

If Biden got rich by being a crook, and if he got away with it, why can't we get rich right along with Biden?

Still the case with America's young.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/for-millennials-socialism-and-communism-are-hot-capitalism-is-not-2019-10-28

UPDATE: 11th March 2020:

Sanders has 663 delegates
Biden has 823 delegates

Biden seems to be increasing the gap between him and Sanders

To be fair, in other places and times, the Marxist dialectic has been exactly what related to the average Joe. Soviet Russia late 19th century to early 20th century. As an example.

Full disclosure.  I am a Republican.  But I think the Democratic Party did Bernie dirty last go around.  I will have to say that I respect Bernie in that he has had the same message for over 40 years.  He does not change his message based on his audience or who he is talking to. 

Biden is more relatable to the average Joe.  Pun intended. 

What in your opinion are the advantages Biden has over Sanders (or Sanders has over Biden) ?

The only rational solution to the Democrat candidate problem is to tie them all down, and take body parts from each, creating a Frankenstein monster with Bernie arms, Hillary toes, Bloomberg and Hillary dual heads. This way everyone will be happy. Oh and it needs remote controls so the fat old white guys in the back room can manipulate it.

Roughly one quarter of Americans are first or second generation immigrants. Are you saying that this group of individuals are not concerned about the rest of the world? And there are MANY third generation Americans (Irish, Italian, Russian, Chinese, Korean, etc... who also give a damn about the rest of the world.

Americans do care about the rest of the world - or more particularly - parts of the rest of the world. Does the average Russian or Chinese or Indian citizen really give a damn about what happens in Suriname or Ghana or Canada? I would guess the wouldn't care anymore than the average American (unless they came from Suriname or Ghana or a neighboring country).

since america is an island that gives a damn about the rest of the world and only seeks to take advantage of the rest of the world, the rest of the world shouldn't really care.

I think Bernie has far less of a chance than does Biden / Hillary / Michelle / Bloomberg / etc...

His appeal was based on him being for labor and borders and wasn't into identity politics.

He's backtracked completely on immigration.

He's backtracked on the Second Amendment (goodbye Michigan and Pennsylvania)

And he's accepted identity politics as opposed to sticking with the traditional socialist dichotomy of workers and capital.

We know he will lose the suburbs so if he doesn't make HUGE inroads in capturing labor then fuggedaboutit.

By abandoning his position on borders / immigration to capture the woke left he's lost his appeal with labor Dems. Now add to the fact that this isn't 2016 when you didn't know for sure what Trump would do. What has Trump done? He's gone hard into the border. The left has blasted him for this and he's kept to his guns. You think labor is going to switch back to Bernie after this? Fuk no.

Bernie is toast. But I'm rooting for him to break up the Democrat party. I've long thought that it would be the Republican party that would break up first but now it looks as if it may be the Dems. So GOOO BERNIEEEE!!!

If Bernie isn't elected then it's Trump again, 100% sure.

If the voters wanted Bernie he would have won more votes. The Bernie / Warren / Kamala wing topped out at about 40% of the Democratic vote (see polls going back a year).

And once the average voter saw that Sanders had a chance they coalesced around Biden. Biden would be a poor candidate even if he was mentally all there (which he isn't) but the party - and the average Dem voters - thought Biden was preferable to Bernie.

I was hoping for a contested convention so I'm a little disappointed. But, there it is.

Showing straight up delegates is great and all, but I think showing something from 538 would do this a lot more justice. Obviously it's going to be changing as new polls come out, more states have primaries, and if a scandal or two occurs.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-primary-forecast/

This thing has been wild to watch, and I'd be pretty surprised if it changed further but still would be interesting to have this being tracked on here.

No way the Democratic Party will let Bernie be the nomination.  It was no coincidence that when Sanders started to pull away from the pack the more moderates drop out and endorse Biden.

UPDATE: 10th March 2020:

Sanders has 574 delegates
Biden has 670 delegates

5 votes in the poll so far:

1 vote for Sanders
4 votes for Biden

4 votes in the poll so far:

1 vote for Sanders
3 votes for Biden

Here are the latest results:

UPDATE: 19th March 2020:




Sanders has 885 delegates
Biden has 1180 delegates

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UPDATE: 16th March 2020:



Sanders has 743 delegates
Biden has 894 delegates

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UPDATE: 15th March 2020:

Sanders has 736 delegates
Biden has 890 delegates

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UPDATE: 13th March 2020:

Sanders has 725 delegates
Biden has 881 delegates

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UPDATE #2: 11th March 2020:

Sanders has 710 delegates
Biden has 860 delegates


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UPDATE: 11th March 2020:

Sanders has 663 delegates
Biden has 823 delegates


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UPDATE: 10th March 2020:

Sanders has 574 delegates
Biden has 670 delegates


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UPDATE: 6th March 2020:

Sanders has 573 delegates
Biden has 664 delegates


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UPDATE: 6th March 2020:

1512 out of 3979 delegate votes have been counted but 2467 pledged delegates are still to be won.

Elizabeth Warren has dropped out of the race to become the Democratic Presidential Nominee and said she needs time to decide on who to back (Sanders or Biden)

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5th March 2020:

Who will be the Democratic nominee to face Trump in the November 2020 elections?

1215 out of 3979 delegate votes have been counted but 2764 pledged delegates are still to be won having said that it is fairly safe to assume the Democrat nominee will be either Sanders or Biden.

Super Tuesday brought about a lot of success for Biden which means he has gone in to the lead but even though Sanders did not win as many primaries as he would have liked but he managed to win big with California. The race is wide open but between them two, I cannot see Warren going on much longer but it seems clear when she drops out she will definitely back Sanders.

All the younger candidates have dropped out, the voting public seems to be believe that an older or at least experienced politician is needed to take on Trump in November and they believe that is the only way to dislodge Trump and make him a one term President. What is apparent is that Bernie Sanders (Bernard Sanders) at 78 years old and Joe Biden (Joseph Robinette Biden Junior) at 77 years old have shown those voting in the primaries prefer a senior candidate over a younger one.

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Trump is already the oldest US President in history at the time of taking office (he was 70 years old). By the time the November election starts:

Trump will 74 years old
Sanders will be 79 years old
Biden will be a couple of weeks short of being 78 years old
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This race to be the Democratic Party Presidential Nominee to face Trump in November just got very interesting. Who will be the Democratic nominee to face Trump in the November 2020 elections?