You never here talk about this situation:
If you believe that a site is a ponzi or a scam site and it is not so,then you are wrong.
And if you are wrong you have lost potential cash.
if you say here on this forum wrong things about a honnest and real investment site you are exactly so guilty than the ones who say wrong things about a real ponzi.
Why should be made so much differencies about wrong people?
Here you can say what you want about sites and systems even if you are wrong.
here wrong sayings about honnest sites are better taken that right things about ponzi's and scams.
Here if people have no inspiration ...they surf the forum and if they see a investment site,they write always the same music...it's a ponzi and will end end as scam like all investment sites.
It is so easy to write always the same music.
What does matter is only that a topic is written...and we know that 99.99% of investment sites are ponzi's and scams,so the "writer" is assured of 99.99% that it is right...and if the reputation of 0.01% of webmasters is broken...it does absolutly not matter.
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most people throw every logic out of the window when they see a return of a ponzi.
some know when to get out, but whey even bother to try.. lol
some know when to get out, but whey even bother to try.. lol
We should be able to differentiate ponzi-schemes form investor-based games.
I think it is possible to have investor-based games that are fair and safe for people to play. From my point of view, investor-based games are gambling sites like casino, dice or lottery, but instead of luck or "randomness" as main factor to choose a winner, in investor based-games, the choices and strategies of players determine the outcome of the game. I think COINSRISE is a good example of what I am trying to explain (see my signature)
I think it is possible to have investor-based games that are fair and safe for people to play. From my point of view, investor-based games are gambling sites like casino, dice or lottery, but instead of luck or "randomness" as main factor to choose a winner, in investor based-games, the choices and strategies of players determine the outcome of the game. I think COINSRISE is a good example of what I am trying to explain (see my signature)
I am seeing that many people still invest in ponzi schemes while they know that it will turn out in a scam sooner or later. Owner of the ponzi will walk away with the money and then people here will be crying because it has gone scam. If people know this, for godsake why they still invest in shit like "btcdoubler", "100% profit in 7 days". Do not believe in this please, use your brains, that is why u got em!
well in my opinion..
there are still lots of ponzi's and new ponzi that are up.
and bitcoin users "yeah" they knew that it was ponzi.
but because its new. they know that they can earn to it
on the first time. then no need to invest more.
the late comer in almost all ponzi sites are the losers.
they do still invest even they know that every satoshi they earn..
somebody losee more to it... its because of greediness..
wellii just hope that all those people dont get their bad karma's.
ponzi's schems have always the same end : turning into scam as soon as possible, and then running away with the investments of ppl. So we should always take care and think twice before giving this scammers our money.
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@winspiral
What did you mean from your statement, "the other is an investment site...all is NOK".
Even yourself agreed that your investment site is NOK.
All ponzi and investment games sites is NOK. Because the owner can run everytime they feel NOK.
Bad people who try to scam others is NOK.
I have never agreed that my investment site is nok.What did you mean from your statement, "the other is an investment site...all is NOK".
Even yourself agreed that your investment site is NOK.
All ponzi and investment games sites is NOK. Because the owner can run everytime they feel NOK.
Bad people who try to scam others is NOK.
I have just talk about what people believe.
I now that my investment site is OK...If people belive that all investment sites are NOK it's their opinion...they are wrong because if my investment site is not a ponzi then all are not NOK.
That the owner can run away,this is possible with every site.
What is hurting me?
that people say all investment sites are ponzi...
this hurts me because this means I'm a scammer.
But I'm solid (lol)
I'm patient too and in few months You will see that i'm not a scammer and that my site will be an interesting investment game where every body can play in trust.
If you depose money in a casino...you can as well be scammed and we know all that all casinos are not scammers.
Casino is not ponzi, and all players know they could lose all their bet when do gamble.
The different is, in gambling the casino owners make a game for people to play. They're not make a lie statement that they will give your money back.
And on ponzi, the owner of the sites always say they are honest and not a scammer. This is your problem.
There's people claiming it's not possible to get out of Ponzi schemes in profit because someone can set up a site for ten bucks and scam all... Well, screw you we are not idiots 
When you want to deposit your funds in a doubler or HYIP (same scheme, different concept - most of the times) you must be SELECTIVE!
Usually I only invest in programs with huge investment from admin side or in unique programs where admin's investment is not very relevant. Did you know that there are lots of old HYIP enthusiasts/players/gamblers making nice monthly profits out of them?
Who fucking cares about being greedy, this is an extra income (rarely a making living off as well).
By the way, HYIPs always lie in order to attract the unsuspecting investors, aka the stupid ones, who are needed to pay the first investors (usually the expert ones who know how the shit in question works), get it now? It's a game based on fishing stupid poor people, sad to say but that's it. Ponzi schemes always existed, since ancient times and since the birth of internet (Ponzi scheme 2.0 aka HYIP).
Have fun and take care guys
When you want to deposit your funds in a doubler or HYIP (same scheme, different concept - most of the times) you must be SELECTIVE!
Usually I only invest in programs with huge investment from admin side or in unique programs where admin's investment is not very relevant. Did you know that there are lots of old HYIP enthusiasts/players/gamblers making nice monthly profits out of them?
Who fucking cares about being greedy, this is an extra income (rarely a making living off as well).
By the way, HYIPs always lie in order to attract the unsuspecting investors, aka the stupid ones, who are needed to pay the first investors (usually the expert ones who know how the shit in question works), get it now? It's a game based on fishing stupid poor people, sad to say but that's it. Ponzi schemes always existed, since ancient times and since the birth of internet (Ponzi scheme 2.0 aka HYIP).
Have fun and take care guys
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@winspiral
What did you mean from your statement, "the other is an investment site...all is NOK".
Even yourself agreed that your investment site is NOK.
All ponzi and investment games sites is NOK. Because the owner can run everytime they feel NOK.
Bad people who try to scam others is NOK.
What did you mean from your statement, "the other is an investment site...all is NOK".
Even yourself agreed that your investment site is NOK.
All ponzi and investment games sites is NOK. Because the owner can run everytime they feel NOK.
Bad people who try to scam others is NOK.
I have never agreed that my investment site is nok.
I have just talk about what people believe.
I now that my investment site is OK...If people belive that all investment sites are NOK it's their opinion...they are wrong because if my investment site is not a ponzi then all are not NOK.
That the owner can run away,this is possible with every site.
What is hurting me?
that people say all investment sites are ponzi...
this hurts me because this means I'm a scammer.
But I'm solid (lol)
I'm patient too and in few months You will see that i'm not a scammer and that my site will be an interesting investment game where every body can play in trust.
If you depose money in a casino...you can as well be scammed and we know all that all casinos are not scammers.
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So now show me proof it is not a ponzi scheme? If you have trouble with doing it in public, u can send me a personal message with the proof, and a foto is not a valid proof, u can just take a picture of the internet...Show a video of your "miners".
If u really have miners u should make it public so u get more investemnts, than people think it is a ponzi...
If u really have miners u should make it public so u get more investemnts, than people think it is a ponzi...
I cannot prove it yet because i will only get the miner saturday...and the cloud mining site is even not coded...
I have already several times talked about ...the profit comes from sponsoring.
What funny is is that for exemple i have 2 sites:
one is a faucet...al is ok... no problem.
the other is an investment site...all is NOK
why should be the faucet site be ok and the investment site be a scam?
Sommetimes i have difficulties to understand people.
If I send money to faucet users all is clean
If i send money to investors than i'm a scammer.
Do you find this not strange?
@winspiral
What did you mean from your statement, "the other is an investment site...all is NOK".
Even yourself agreed that your investment site is NOK.
All ponzi and investment games sites is NOK. Because the owner can run everytime they feel NOK.
Bad people who try to scam others is NOK.
The major problem with ponzis It is impossible to know when they will fail and you will have absolutely nowhere to turn for help/support.
Yes that is true, that is why you should research on things first when investing. also dont invest anything if your afraid to lose it. ponzi its like playing dice the difference is it is long term
What is gambling if i may ask?... Its like a lotto, you know chances are 1 in a zillion to win the jackpot but you still play.. There is one rule i follow with Ponzi's 'dont invest what you cant afford to lose'..
The major problem with ponzis It is impossible to know when they will fail and you will have absolutely nowhere to turn for help/support.
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It is pretty logical, a faucet does not require people to invest momey in it and risking your money, but a ponzi is the opposite and you risk your money. It depends on the ponzi owner when it goes scam. I have never seen a ponzi for longer than a year, so I don't see that it isn't a scam.
you are right.
But.
So if I understand well...if one has to send money,then it is a ponzi?
you are a little bit short with your argument.
you see my investment system so?
you believe that if investors have nothing to do then it is a ponzi?
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It is pretty logical, a faucet does not require people to invest momey in it and risking your money, but a ponzi is the opposite and you risk your money. It depends on the ponzi owner when it goes scam. I have never seen a ponzi for longer than a year, so I don't see that it isn't a scam.
you are right.
But.
So if I understand well...if one has to send money,then it is a ponzi?
you are a little bit short with your argument.
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It is pretty logical, a faucet does not require people to invest momey in it and risking your money, but a ponzi is the opposite and you risk your money. It depends on the ponzi owner when it goes scam. I have never seen a ponzi for longer than a year, so I don't see that it isn't a scam.
you are right.
But.
So if I understand well...if one has to send money,then it is a ponzi?
you are a little bit short with your argument.
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So now show me proof it is not a ponzi scheme? If you have trouble with doing it in public, u can send me a personal message with the proof, and a foto is not a valid proof, u can just take a picture of the internet...Show a video of your "miners".
If u really have miners u should make it public so u get more investemnts, than people think it is a ponzi...
If u really have miners u should make it public so u get more investemnts, than people think it is a ponzi...
I cannot prove it yet because i will only get the miner saturday...and the cloud mining site is even not coded...
I have already several times talked about ...the profit comes from sponsoring.
What funny is is that for exemple i have 2 sites:
one is a faucet...al is ok... no problem.
the other is an investment site...all is NOK
why should be the faucet site be ok and the investment site be a scam?
Sommetimes i have difficulties to understand people.
If I send money to faucet users all is clean
If i send money to investors than i'm a scammer.
Do you find this not strange?
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So now show me proof it is not a ponzi scheme? If you have trouble with doing it in public, u can send me a personal message with the proof, and a foto is not a valid proof, u can just take a picture of the internet...Show a video of your "miners".
If u really have miners u should make it public so u get more investemnts, than people think it is a ponzi...
If u really have miners u should make it public so u get more investemnts, than people think it is a ponzi...
I cannot prove it yet because i will only get the miner saturday...and the cloud mining site is even not coded...
I have already several times talked about ...the profit comes from sponsoring.
What funny is is that for exemple i have 2 sites:
one is a faucet...al is ok... no problem.
the other is an investment site...all is NOK
why should be the faucet site be ok and the investment site be a scam?
Sommetimes i have difficulties to understand people.
If I send money to faucet users all is clean
If i send money to investors than i'm a scammer.
Do you find this not strange?
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So now show me proof it is not a ponzi scheme? If you have trouble with doing it in public, u can send me a personal message with the proof, and a foto is not a valid proof, u can just take a picture of the internet...Show a video of your "miners".
If u really have miners u should make it public so u get more investemnts, than people think it is a ponzi...
If u really have miners u should make it public so u get more investemnts, than people think it is a ponzi...
I cannot prove it yet because i will only get the miner saturday...and the cloud mining site is even not coded...
I have already several times talked about ...the profit comes from sponsoring.
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So now show me proof it is not a ponzi scheme? If you have trouble with doing it in public, u can send me a personal message with the proof, and a foto is not a valid proof, u can just take a picture of the internet...Show a video of your "miners".
If u really have miners u should make it public so u get more investemnts, than people think it is a ponzi...
If u really have miners u should make it public so u get more investemnts, than people think it is a ponzi...
I cannot prove it yet because i will only get the miner saturday...and the cloud mining site is even not coded...
I have already several times talked about ...the profit comes from sponsoring.
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So now show me proof it is not a ponzi scheme? If you have trouble with doing it in public, u can send me a personal message with the proof, and a foto is not a valid proof, u can just take a picture of the internet...Show a video of your "miners".
If u really have miners u should make it public so u get more investemnts, than people think it is a ponzi...
If u really have miners u should make it public so u get more investemnts, than people think it is a ponzi...
I cannot prove it yet because i will only get the miner saturday...and the cloud mining site is even not coded...
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So now show me proof it is not a ponzi scheme? If you have trouble with doing it in public, u can send me a personal message with the proof, and a foto is not a valid proof, u can just take a picture of the internet...Show a video of your "miners".
If u really have miners u should make it public so u get more investemnts, than people think it is a ponzi...
If u really have miners u should make it public so u get more investemnts, than people think it is a ponzi...
I cannot prove it yet because i will only get the miner saturday...and the cloud mining site is even not coded...
It is actually illegal any form of a ponzi or something that smells like it. Only the owner and the first 5 investors are making money.
I don't know if it is illegal, but it should be illegal! In any case avoid to invest money in a ponzi, usually many people don't know that the site they invest in is a ponzi, like most cloud mining services, they almost all ponzi's!So I can't say this enough times, stay away...There is no such thing as "Quick Profit"!
I see more ink will flow...next week i certainly will open a cloud mining site.
Do you believe it will be a ponzi sheme?
Since over 20 years i have never run a ponzi shame.
Why should I start now with it?
Did i say that you are running a ponzi? I said you are promoting one: "http://bitcoin.winspiral.net (Invest in a start-up for less than 100 days)
(1mBTC is enough)(so many doubtful people about the no-risk here)", you are basically sayng here, free money, no-risk. If you think the website/service is really that good, why u don't uself invest in it and let other people alone?
I will prove it that i mine...that is not a problem.
you did not day i'm running a ponzi
you say i promote a ponzi...ok
but the site i promote and you qualify as a ponzi is a site I'm running...
so you indirectly say i'm running a ponzi.
If u really have miners u should make it public so u get more investemnts, than people think it is a ponzi...
It is actually illegal any form of a ponzi or something that smells like it. Only the owner and the first 5 investors are making money.
I don't know if it is illegal, but it should be illegal! In any case avoid to invest money in a ponzi, usually many people don't know that the site they invest in is a ponzi, like most cloud mining services, they almost all ponzi's!So I can't say this enough times, stay away...There is no such thing as "Quick Profit"!
I see more ink will flow...next week i certainly will open a cloud mining site.
Do you believe it will be a ponzi sheme?
Since over 20 years i have never run a ponzi shame.
Why should I start now with it?
Did i say that you are running a ponzi? I said you are promoting one: "http://bitcoin.winspiral.net (Invest in a start-up for less than 100 days)
(1mBTC is enough)(so many doubtful people about the no-risk here)", you are basically sayng here, free money, no-risk. If you think the website/service is really that good, why u don't uself invest in it and let other people alone?
I will prove it that i mine...that is not a problem.
you did not day i'm running a ponzi
you say i promote a ponzi...ok
but the site i promote and you qualify as a ponzi is a site I'm running...
so you indirectly say i'm running a ponzi.
It is actually illegal any form of a ponzi or something that smells like it. Only the owner and the first 5 investors are making money.
I don't know if it is illegal, but it should be illegal! In any case avoid to invest money in a ponzi, usually many people don't know that the site they invest in is a ponzi, like most cloud mining services, they almost all ponzi's!So I can't say this enough times, stay away...There is no such thing as "Quick Profit"!
I see more ink will flow...next week i certainly will open a cloud mining site.
Do you believe it will be a ponzi sheme?
Since over 20 years i have never run a ponzi shame.
Why should I start now with it?
Did i say that you are running a ponzi? I said you are promoting one: "http://bitcoin.winspiral.net (Invest in a start-up for less than 100 days)
(1mBTC is enough)(so many doubtful people about the no-risk here)", you are basically sayng here, free money, no-risk. If you think the website/service is really that good, why u don't uself invest in it and let other people alone?
It is actually illegal any form of a ponzi or something that smells like it. Only the owner and the first 5 investors are making money.
I don't know if it is illegal, but it should be illegal! In any case avoid to invest money in a ponzi, usually many people don't know that the site they invest in is a ponzi, like most cloud mining services, they almost all ponzi's!So I can't say this enough times, stay away...There is no such thing as "Quick Profit"!
I see more ink will flow...next week i certainly will open a cloud mining site.
Do you believe it will be a ponzi sheme?
Since over 20 years i have never run a ponzi shame.
Why should I start now with it?
It is actually illegal any form of a ponzi or something that smells like it. Only the owner and the first 5 investors are making money.
I don't know if it is illegal, but it should be illegal! In any case avoid to invest money in a ponzi, usually many people don't know that the site they invest in is a ponzi, like most cloud mining services, they almost all ponzi's!So I can't say this enough times, stay away...There is no such thing as "Quick Profit"!
It is actually illegal any form of a ponzi or something that smells like it. Only the owner and the first 5 investors are making money.
You are funny...
so if something smells like a ponzi it is illegal?
It is actually illegal any form of a ponzi or something that smells like it. Only the owner and the first 5 investors are making money.
Nope that's wrong...
I think you can't understand what i mean ...
I think you can't understand what i mean ...
I believe I can.
you claim to be able to know which hyip/ponzi is "safe". yet at the same time you're unsure with yourself. that's self-contradicting.
let me ask you this. how can you know 99% that an owner of a cheap site won't run away as soon as they get your money? a hunch?
if you're so sure then it shouldn't be that hard to explain.
(lol) i'm a crazy man...
what do you mean about cheap
Winspiral, why are you promoting a ponzi? This caused neg trust for your account...
Where do you see i'm promoting a ponzi?
Nope that's wrong...
I think you can't understand what i mean ...
I think you can't understand what i mean ...
I believe I can.
you claim to be able to know which hyip/ponzi is "safe". yet at the same time you're unsure with yourself. that's self-contradicting.
let me ask you this. how can you know 99% that an owner of a cheap site won't run away as soon as they get your money? a hunch?
if you're so sure then it shouldn't be that hard to explain.
(lol) i'm a crazy man...
what do you mean about cheap
Winspiral, why are you promoting a ponzi? This caused neg trust for your account...
the answer is simple. greed and stupidity.
most people that invest on a ponzi do so because of greed and a little bit of stupidity. the rest (the ones who invest on inactive ponzi) involves more stupidity.
most people that invest on a ponzi do so because of greed and a little bit of stupidity. the rest (the ones who invest on inactive ponzi) involves more stupidity.
As a user that invests on ponzis, I agree with greed but not with stupidity
Maybe on my first experience on ponzis, I admit I am stupid that time 
but as time goes by, I am learning how make profit with ponzis as a risk-taking investors. So basically risk-taking isn't stupidity Nope that's wrong...
I think you can't understand what i mean ...
I think you can't understand what i mean ...
I believe I can.
you claim to be able to know which hyip/ponzi is "safe". yet at the same time you're unsure with yourself. that's self-contradicting.
let me ask you this. how can you know 99% that an owner of a cheap site won't run away as soon as they get your money? a hunch?
if you're so sure then it shouldn't be that hard to explain.
(lol) i'm a crazy man...
what do you mean about cheap
Most of the people who promote ponzi are players in ponzi from long time ago and they know they can make quick profit if they invest in early stage and they also know it is easy to make other greedy to invest under them. That's why ponzi are still living till now.
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you can make good money with it
that's greed.
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but only if your one from the first investors....
that's stupidity. there's no guarantee that you will get profit if you invest first. someone can make a site for $10, open a thread here, and run away as soon as someone invests 0.5btc.
people invest early in ponzi are intelligent learn to search before investing also know your limits.
That is called taking advantage.
Some people do know well enough what they are doing in investing in such ponzi.
Let's face it, who doesn't like fast money right? Those people in the winning side of every ponzi proves that. They know when to stop that's why the profit is theirs.
Greed is another thing, Some intelligent people are blinded by this and so resulting to their stupidity in continuing to invest while they already know that there is a greater risk in investig in such.
Nope that's wrong...
I think you can't understand what i mean ...
I think you can't understand what i mean ...
I believe I can.
you claim to be able to know which hyip/ponzi is "safe". yet at the same time you're unsure with yourself. that's self-contradicting.
let me ask you this. how can you know 99% that an owner of a cheap site won't run away as soon as they get your money? a hunch?
if you're so sure then it shouldn't be that hard to explain.
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you can make good money with it
that's greed.
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but only if your one from the first investors....
that's stupidity. there's no guarantee that you will get profit if you invest first. someone can make a site for $10, open a thread here, and run away as soon as someone invests 0.5btc.
people invest early in ponzi are intelligent learn to search before investing also know your limits.
what lolfreak say is true if you know how to make money with hyips then you will make profits,
but if you don't know then you can lose all your coins.
but if you don't know then you can lose all your coins.
If you want to know how you can know if the site you want to invest in is good or not then first you have to check the template if it's cheap one or not, also the ddos guard, the scipt etc ............
i think it's better for you to read this articles :
http://blog.e-investars.com/category/articles/for-hyip-novices/
i think it's better for you to read this articles :
http://blog.e-investars.com/category/articles/for-hyip-novices/
almost all site I see on this forum are cheap and just use cloudflare. where are the good ones?
I said you have to read the articles...
Man if you can't open the articles maually here are links ....:
http://blog.e-investars.com/2015/06/29/are-you-the-blind-follower-of-the-hyip-leaders/
http://blog.e-investars.com/2015/05/09/your-favorite-hyips-fall-apart-heres-why/
http://blog.e-investars.com/2015/06/06/hyip-scripts-how-to-identify-them/
http://blog.e-investars.com/2015/06/22/hyip-review-how-should-you-read-it/
http://blog.e-investars.com/2015/05/08/how-an-hyip-monitor-works-today/
....etc...
those are articles not sites so i can't understand why you talking about things i don't said.
If you want to know how you can know if the site you want to invest in is good or not then first you have to check the template if it's cheap one or not, also the ddos guard, the scipt etc ............
i think it's better for you to read this articles :
http://blog.e-investars.com/category/articles/for-hyip-novices/
i think it's better for you to read this articles :
http://blog.e-investars.com/category/articles/for-hyip-novices/
almost all ponzi site I see on this forum are cheap and just use cloudflare. the pricey ones are rare and most of them have been inactive for weeks.
You speak about cheap sites... who will invest in cheap sites? only a newbie or a crazy man.
all you need for a site is a domain name and hosting. the rest can be done with a knowledge of designing and scripting and other relevant things. sure you can pay for them, but if you're skilled then there's no need for that.
by the way my question is still unanswered.
i think it's better for you to read this articles :
http://blog.e-investars.com/category/articles/for-hyip-novices/
You speak about cheap sites... who will invest in cheap sites? only a newbie or a crazy man.
all you need for a site is a domain name and hosting. the rest can be done with a knowledge of designing and scripting and other relevant things. sure you can pay for them, but if you're skilled then there's no need for that.
by the way my question is still unanswered.
Nope that's wrong...
I think you can't understand what i mean ...
I think you can't understand what i mean ...
I believe I can.
you claim to be able to know which hyip/ponzi is "safe". yet at the same time you're unsure with yourself. that's self-contradicting.
let me ask you this. how can you know 99% that an owner of a cheap site won't run away as soon as they get your money? a hunch?
if you're so sure then it shouldn't be that hard to explain.
Nope that's wrong...
I think you can't understand what i mean ...
I think you can't understand what i mean ...
I believe I can.
you claim to be able to know which hyip/ponzi is "safe". yet at the same time you're unsure with yourself. that's self-contradicting.
let me ask you this. how can you know 99% that an owner of a cheap site won't run away as soon as they get your money? a hunch?
if you're so sure then it shouldn't be that hard to explain.
Exactly if you have experience then you will take the right decision to invest or not to invest....(but i don't say there is no risk to take the false decision)
that's the same as going blind.
I think you can't understand what i mean ...
Exactly if you have experience then you will take the right decision to invest or not to invest....(but i don't say there is no risk to take the false decision)
that's the same as going blind.
you can never know in advance and ponzi are to avoid.
Exactly if you have experience then you will take the right decision to invest or not to invest....(but i don't say there is no risk to take the false decision)
that's the same as going blind.
You have to know wich hyip or ponzi is ok.... and not invest in all ponzis you see ..!!
unfortunately there's no real way to know that for sure. as far as I know.
and the fact that you're supposed to invest as fast as possible to ensure your profit just make it harder.
not exactly. but what does being new or seasoned have to do with anything? does being seasoned makes you able to correctly judge which hyip or ponzi is ok? I don't think so.
the answer is simple. greed and stupidity.
most people that invest on a ponzi do so because of greed and a little bit of stupidity. the rest (the ones who invest on inactive ponzi) involves more stupidity.
Nope also because you can make good money with it but only if your one from the first investors....most people that invest on a ponzi do so because of greed and a little bit of stupidity. the rest (the ones who invest on inactive ponzi) involves more stupidity.
thats the reason why i joined btcflex i was one of the first investors and now got more than 270% back of my investment.
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You have to know wich hyip or ponzi is ok.... and not invest in all ponzis you see ..!!
unfortunately there's no real way to know that for sure. as far as I know.
and the fact that you're supposed to invest as fast as possible to ensure your profit just make it harder.
not exactly. but what does being new or seasoned have to do with anything? does being seasoned makes you able to correctly judge which hyip or ponzi is ok? I don't think so.
Someone think's that they will be in first profitable wave. Coz sometime first members have profit so ponzi plans will work and gain followers.
You have to know wich hyip or ponzi is ok.... and not invest in all ponzis you see ..!!
unfortunately there's no real way to know that for sure. as far as I know.
and the fact that you're supposed to invest as fast as possible to ensure your profit just make it harder.
You have to know wich hyip or ponzi is ok.... and not invest in all ponzis you see ..!!
unfortunately there's no real way to know that for sure. as far as I know.
and the fact that you're supposed to invest as fast as possible to ensure your profit just make it harder.
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you can make good money with it
that's greed.
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but only if your one from the first investors....
that's stupidity. there's no guarantee that you will get profit if you invest first. someone can make a site for $10, open a thread here, and run away as soon as someone invests 0.5btc.
that's stupidity. there's no guarantee that you will get profit if you invest first. someone can make a site for $10, open a thread here, and run away as soon as someone invests 0.5btc.
It's stupid to think that you will become rich with a ponzi...that for sure.
It's always that little maybe. Maybe it will be different this time.
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you can make good money with it
that's greed.
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but only if your one from the first investors....
that's stupidity. there's no guarantee that you will get profit if you invest first. someone can make a site for $10, open a thread here, and run away as soon as someone invests 0.5btc.
the answer is simple. greed and stupidity.
most people that invest on a ponzi do so because of greed and a little bit of stupidity. the rest (the ones who invest on inactive ponzi) involves more stupidity.
Nope also because you can make good money with it but only if your one from the first investors....most people that invest on a ponzi do so because of greed and a little bit of stupidity. the rest (the ones who invest on inactive ponzi) involves more stupidity.
Anyway i don't have anything against ponzis....like lolfreak87 said you can earn good amount of moneys but people have to know where they are investing and shouldn't complain if they lose money and this is something that doesn't happen since people just cry.
It's the same with hyip....every hyip site says that they are expert trader etc and that they are investing moneys and bla bla bla but a lot of them are just ponzis and still people invest also thousand dollars into them.
the answer is simple. greed and stupidity.
most people that invest on a ponzi do so because of greed and a little bit of stupidity. the rest (the ones who invest on inactive ponzi) involves more stupidity.
Nope also because you can make good money with it but only if your one from the first investors.... most people that invest on a ponzi do so because of greed and a little bit of stupidity. the rest (the ones who invest on inactive ponzi) involves more stupidity.
Here some people take no ponzi for ponzi...
Then it is normal that some people take ponzi for no ponzi.
If one cannot reconize an no ponzi one cannot reconize ponzi.
But here someones see ponzi everywhere.
I agree,it is a good way not to be taken.
Then it is normal that some people take ponzi for no ponzi.
If one cannot reconize an no ponzi one cannot reconize ponzi.
But here someones see ponzi everywhere.
I agree,it is a good way not to be taken.
the answer is simple. greed and stupidity.
most people that invest on a ponzi do so because of greed and a little bit of stupidity. the rest (the ones who invest on inactive ponzi) involves more stupidity.
most people that invest on a ponzi do so because of greed and a little bit of stupidity. the rest (the ones who invest on inactive ponzi) involves more stupidity.
I am seeing that many people still invest in ponzi schemes while they know that it will turn out in a scam sooner or later. Owner of the ponzi will walk away with the money and then people here will be crying because it has gone scam. If people know this, for godsake why they still invest in shit like "btcdoubler", "100% profit in 7 days". Do not believe in this please, use your brains, that is why u got em!
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