Topic: ⛏️ Poolin.com ⛏️ Bitcoin Mining | 16% of Global Hashrate | FPPS ⛏️ LOW fee (Read 4039 times)

😂 ooohhh please!!!


amyway,

got the word from poolin that they won't be maintaining this thread.

au revoir!

if really does not work for Poolin.com any more, why not return this account to POOLIN guys so they can continue to monitor?

or you "do not work" for poolin because poolin now operates via complex web of shell companies? so I work for poolin but I do not work for poolin trick?

or you means you no longer share the bed with inno where these chips came from?

i don't work for poolin any longer. i suppose someone else from the team can monitor this thread.

Hi NeutralLTC

Where's the source code for this:

we got a reddit up and running if any of you need support or whatever: https://www.reddit.com/r/poolin/

thanks for the information XD

Not looking good.
You just lost another orphan race, block 697008
Antpoo beat you on that one this time.

no clue, I don't follow these happenings that closely

Saw you guys lost an orphan race to slush today 696145
Was that caused by the block being found inside china?
Only my 'china' node saw it first, all my other nodes saw slush's first.

https://medium.com/poolin/mining-pool-account-25b1eb5fc750

https://medium.com/poolin/tls-protocol-applied-in-cryptocurrency-mining-9de15c08c405

Poolin, Are you going to pretend like this question was never asked? why does Poolin mine empty blocks when the mempool is not empty?

POOLIN.com DOES NOT OPERATE POOLIN.CO.UK! IT IS A SCAM.

Here you can find Poolin hashrate growth from its inception until december 2019!

nice empty block there.... over 60k txns in mempool and you do an empty block. way to go.

Bitcoin mining pool Poolin acquires hashrate of NovaBlock to expand in North America

https://www.theblockcrypto.com/linked/93875/bitcoin-mining-pool-poolin-acquires-hashrate-novablock

guys this thread isn't about discussing other pools merits or lack thereof. please take these type of conversations elsewhere

His pool is small doesn't mean it's not good, I also doubt that people left his pool because it didn't find blocks, it used to find "enough" blocks in "decent" periods when enough people were there, I think people left because 1- they prefer PPS pools (proof is that vast majority of the hashrate is pointed towards PPS+/FPPS pools). 2- his attitude.

Now back to Poolin, I did try the pool in an attempt to leave Viabtc, and well, I don't quite like this pool, while I was testing it, my hashrate dropped to zero on the pool phone app, I was a bit far from my PC so I had to rush and call my guy who lives next to the farm to go check the miners, he said all miners were hashing, shares are being accepted, I checked again, 0 hashrate.. and since I don't want my gears to be mining for poolin without me getting paid, I had to rush to point my gears to another pool, after a while, I checked their telegram group and I saw them talk about a server/code update of some kind that caused this whole mess and that the real shares/hashrate was not affected.

While I (like you) mine for profit, I don't like to mine to a pool that hires unqualified programmers to handle their system, the hashrate reporting was off for hours, I didn't even receive an email from them "well they said they sent it to everyone after the noticed the issue, but I didn't get anything from them", well, obviously after this incident, I never went back to Poolin, and most likely never will.

Now, why don't large pools with good capital hire people who know how to operate a pool like Kano?

Since the halving my pool, https://kano.is has found 4 blocks.

Um, the ramp time on KanoPool is only 3 days and has been that short for quite a long time now...

Kano, I respect you, however, i have to say.  Whens the last time your pool found a block?? It was July 2020.  So that means since the halving, your pool has not found a block.  Who cares if your pool is better if no one uses it.  and that stupid 1 month ramp up period, if i had to be honest, is why no one uses your pool.  You computer geniuses become a bit autistic when it comes to people and common sense.  not everyone wants "the best code" or the most perfect elegant system possible.  we paid thousands of dollars for these ASICS and we need pools that find blocks.  I switched from your pool to slush pool.  then i switched to poolin because now even slush is having problems, can go up to 40 hours without a block.   i know your line, with luck it all evens out over time.  I highly doubt your pool will ever find a block again, and if it does, the luck will be no where near 100%.  so before you come to all the other pools to cast stones, take a good look in the mirror

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New video out! This time, poolin team visits the largest mining farms in China:

https://youtu.be/NrLENhrTrMA

After using Poolin for a few months i must say i'm realy pleased and excited using it.

Do you have any update about the "lock payout address" feature that i proposed? Also, are you going to offer some sort of buying option for mining equipment anytime soon?

Last but not least, i'd love to see a 0.001 btc payout option in the near future. I know you are already offering daily payouts at Poolin wallets, but setting up so many wallets, is a no go at least for me at the moment.

Thank you and i'm waiting for your reply.

They were in breach of contract, but lesser fines

Court Denies Bitmain $30M in Damages From Co-Founders of Rival Poolin


https://www.coindesk.com/court-bitmain-bitcoin-mining-damages-poolin

If you consider Bitcoin invalid forks caused by not verifying the transactions in a block, as something that poo lin doesn't care about, which would clearly appear to be the case since you don't verify the block's transactions before sending new work to your miners, they start each block change working on blocks that may be invalid, then clearly this pool is indeed VERY bad for Bitcoin.

Indeed any of the sources that you use to get the block headers before you verify the block's transactions, could use that fact to make ALL your miners mine on invalid blocks.

Alas it would appear that your minors are ignorant of this fact, or you don't divulge, hide this fact, from them.
Which is it?

It's Poolin not Pooling.

Please don't bring drama here Kano, thanks.

Another EMPTY block today by Poolin.
Block 646643

Generating EMPTY blocks means they are not fully testing the blocks they are building upon and risking causing a Bitcoin fork like happened in 2015 when the Pooling manager worked for Bitmain and F2Pool and Bitmain forked onto an invalid chain.

Be wary of supporting pools that do such bad things for Bitcoin.

Thanks for testing out Poolin, the recommendations you have given are really good, especially number 2. I will add it to the roadmap, are there anymore recommendations you have? We are all ears and appreciate the feedback!

Poolin generates empty blocks.
EMPTY blocks are not necessary and are a sign that the pool is slow and coded badly.
Today: block 645465 EMPTY

There is always a risk in not owning your keys, I agree. This is why we leave it as an optional feature.

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Hey everyone! Announcement from our end, all our products are now under the Poolin brand! More information can be found here: https://medium.com/poolin/all-under-the-poolin-brand-1065561bbd3f

Hello everyone.
I recently joined poolin in order to test the profitability and see how often it finds blocks.

My previous pool was slushpool so i want to compare it with poolin.
I know Slush is a much smaller pool but it was really convenient being able to see whenever a block was found.

I've got some recommendations to make in order for poolin to become a little more friendly to use.

1. I would like to see in the main dashboard page everytime a block is found and also the reward.
2. The pool's major drowback IMO is that we can't lock the payout address which is something we can do in Slushpool.
    Are you going to offer this option any time soon?

Thank you in advance

the hard part is that so many times in the past people have left crypto in exchanges for the same purposes and what tends to happen is that the exchange/pool/wallet service  or whatever you want to call it, ends up getting hacked or the owners go poof and people lose it all - if you dont own the keys, you dont own the crypto.

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Yeah. a modded s9 with 1 board doing 3.5 th does not even make the chart.
yet a lot of people will use them after the 1/2 ing.
they will mine solo
they will be a space heater first
and power price will be 7kwatts a day or 210 kwatts  a month.

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I am testing symbols.

please note:

Pattern order was  lifted from a tweet by Andreas@aantonop. not sure if it needs credit.

Actually, it depends on the price, the difficulty and the J/H
The hash rate doesn't decide it.

The price is the main decider.

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Comparing Hashrate of Old Generation Bitcoin Miners to Estimate Halving Capitulations: https://medium.com/poolin/miner-survivability-post-halving-a-hash-rate-comparison-198bb8918563

we recommend using one verified URL.

unfortunately we were unable to recreate your issue and no other user has faced this issue, might be your network?

*edit: we will have a deeper look again in a couple of days, stand by.

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Hey Artemis,

"offline_keep_mining" can be found in our other tool 'Offline Keeper' in our tool section: https://www.poolin.com/tools

We are now testing the software to find out whats up with the server specified issue.

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Artemis do you mind sending me your config file please?

This is a shame, "offline_keep_mining" was one of the most interesting features, it kept the asic cool when there is no connection.

My test run had the 3 different servers specified, yet it only connected to the first (VA). If connection fails for long (some minutes) the proxy quits entirely.

This and lack of offline keep mining makes it rather pointless to use it, except for bandwidth compression unless that also was removed.

"offline_keep_mining" has been removed yes.

If there is only one stratum server in config file, agent will connect to the same server 3 times. does this answer your query?

Regarding the proxy ("SmartAgent"), the documentation online is now better. This new version (3.0.5) seems to be working correctly, only thing is i notice this in the log:


I do hope the proxy isn't trying only the first server 3 times rather than the 3 different servers specified in the json config file. It is occasional, but sometimes my miner cannot connect to VA but connects fine to BJ... So i would like the proxy to do the same in case VA fails to connect.

Also i noticed the option "offline_keep_mining":true is no longer in the provided json file and documentation. I assume this feature is always true?

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PS: Unfortunately if the proxy loses connection for too long, it quits. This makes the offline keep mining feature (if it still exists) unusable.

Smart Agent documentation has been updated: https://github.com/iblockin/Poolin-SmartAgentExplan/tree/master/Bitcoin

Binary file also updated to the latest version 3.0.5.

please keep me informed if you face any other issues.

Yes, but i downloaded the Linux cli version and ran it for testing. Since it wasn't working well i stopped using it. The idea is excellent, however, but if i were to deploy in a mine, it would need to work as intended.

Without connectivity, the program eventually quits. Yes, i could rig a script to endlessly launch it again but this isn't elegant, but that doesn't solve the main problem: It wasn't connecting to Poolin when there was connectivity, it only looks like its working but Poolin sees nothing, and network traffic reveals no attempt to connect to Poolin at all.

Perhaps the windows version works better, but that i didn't try. I just don't like the idea of having a windows router in a mine... Tho i did my tests at home, not in a production environment.

This file SmartAgent_BTC_Ubuntu.zip includes a text file called "帮助.txt" which points to a no longer available file on github, so it maybe that the Linux version needs updating. I found the file as posted before, its the very important description of the json config file: https://github.com/iblockin/Poolin-SmartAgentExplan/blob/master/bitcoin_smartagent_readme.md

A suggestion would be to add a working example of a config json file, and the documentation should be in the text file not just in github.  It could be that my json is wrong, so here it goes:


Problem is: Miner is connecting fine to Proxy but Proxy does not appear to connect to Poolin.

Artemis, if you could let me know what's going on with that proxy issue so we can fix it for you please.

The documentation you speak of is this: https://help.poolin.com/hc/en-us/articles/360021068392 correct? What do you think we should update/add to the documentation? Some feedback would be highly appreciated so i know what needs to be focused on.

Have you figured out what was the issue? or did you end up using another proxy?


I appreciate the efforts you are willing to make to help out, but it would be much better if you could improve the documentations for your SmartAgent, i agree with Artemis3, the documentations are indeed very poor and need to be looked at.

Hey Artemis,

If you surf over to Poolin.com and go to tools you can find all the tools our miners currently can use (including the smart agent). If you like we can help you fix the issues with smart agent.

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Hey all HAPPY NEW YEARS! thank you for trusting Poolin.

here is a recap of our year: https://medium.com/poolin/poolin-recap-of-2019-9dce0a702e4c

please take a quick read and let us know how we can improve for 2020. Wishing you all success for this new year.

Well this interview made me discover their mining proxy. I am in that very situation they describe for the reason this mining proxy even exists, i need to lower my bandwidth so i am now giving it a try. It doesn't appear to be working, documentation is very poor... Miner connects to proxy, but proxy doesn't want to connect to pool or the pool doesn't see it, whatever.

At least it can keep the miner "busy" when there is no connection.., so I'll leave it as 3rd pool choice until i can figure out why it isn't connecting. Nope it doesn't like not having connection after a little while of dns failure. It is anyone's wonder why the "brilliant" minds of Bitmain, make the miners actually consume more power and produce more heat when there is no connection and the miner has no actual work to do...

The interview also mentions something about a new mining protocol called "BUMP" which makes me wonder, Any reason the Slush proposal wasn't considered? They appear to address the same issues.

hey there bitcointalk,


here is an informative interview about Poolin with our COO Chris Zhu:


https://minerupdate.com/interviews/mining-leader-interview-series-poolin-coo-chris-zhu

hi there, do you mind sending me or posting here your subaccount name so we can take a look further, thanks.

Hello There! I am new to mining at Poolin and i have connected my miner to Poolin. All the miner setup is already pre- installed by the provided vendor. Now i want to change the Poolin servers' setup configuration. How to update this on my Poolin Sub-Account as per my miner setup to link Poolin servers? Thanks.   

the thread has been removed from the sticky threads I assume because the OP is long gone. To re-answer; payout minimums are to be found on the homepage, cheers.

Finally a straight answer, thanks. This pool is missing from the BTC Mining Pools List thread, it would be very nice if it was added there to ease comparison.

sorry - I guess I did just skip over the question - thankfully @digital$ did answer


if you go to your "manage sub-account" and then on the line of your sub-account, click the "setting" you will see an option for "Minimum Payment Setting" where you have the options of .005, .01, .05 and .1 with default being .005. I did not think of this because it does not apply when withdrawing to Bixin.

As for their payment structure, it is clearly stated under the FAQ "fee and payment method"
I did notice that it pops up a log in though - and I just close it without completing it.

default payout without Bixin is 0.005BTC  pool fee is 4% for FPPS or PPS

Yes i already saw that at the site, but that doesn't answer the question. Bixin is something special, so i would like to know, the normal payout rate when NOT using Bixin, AND what is the pool fee. Normally you would quickly see that information displayed in the pool page, but unfortunately it appears to be buried inside a "help" site that requires (separate) login credentials to access.

This is the kind of thing that should be visible no matter if you are visiting, but much more if you are actually logged to the pool web site.

How can people even compare pools if they don't know their fee and payout structure?

when I use poolin, I set payouts to bixin wallet and then xfer from bixin - if you use bixin, it will payout every day no matter how much you earn. 1 sat or 200k sats

I still don't know what is this pool (Bitcoin) payout (min satoshis for wallet withdrawal), and what are its fees. Can anyone tell?

If you are mining btc - you will get a pin card to open the next day after the day  you had enough hash mining. You will need to create a pin wallet first if I recall though.

It's called faking the data.

They smooth out the true results to make fake but smoother looking results.

A miner does not have the hash rate it claims, it simply submits shares - no miner since 2011 actually hashes at the rate it says - and since the addition of AB to miners, it is even further from the truth.
From the pool side, the pool only sees the shares, since that is the Proof of Work and the only data that is Provable, and the pool calculates a hash rate from those shares.

Those shares are the same on any pool, so will produce the same jagged graph on any pool.

Shares have exactly the same random properties as blocks, there's just more shares than blocks.
The time between each share sent to the pool is random, not linear, so the graph of sets of that data (shifts, hours, or however the pool groups them) will also have variance = the fluctuation.

If they are grouping the data in hours, then the hourly points for a single miner would vary about +/- 7.5% (i.e. about 15%)
More miners grouped into one data line will reduce that variance.

very recently switched on this pool, it appears I get more /day than other pools (ie btc.com). the interface is similar to Btc.com, I like it.

still, need to find out how to get the PIN coins every day, didn't have the time yet. any tips are welcomed  

another random thing is that the hash rate does not fluctuate as much as on other pools. will have to try and understand how what and why  

Edit: the graphic is differently designed, just realised that  

ah! gotcha! thank you for the clarification!

Thanks for that.

And just to clarify.

That list has to do with our mining management tool and what we support with that particular tool!

great  news! I did not know it was resolved so was just posting the list you had provided previously - glad to know he's fully up and running.

he is connected, we support m3's! he just needed to update his firmware

it might be that they do not support those miners - neutralLTC did post a list of miners they support:

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btw I forgot to post it here, @neutralLTC resolved all my issues - thanks!

neutraLTC

Please consider adding to your first message, or at the pool page the following information, which i consider vital for people thinking in using your pool:

Pool fees and payouts.

This information appears to be available in "help" which is a system provided by blockin, unfortunately this requires a login (different from pool login), and it cannot be read otherwise.

This particular page appears to have the answer, but without login credentials it is impossible to read:
https://help.poolin.com/hc/en-us/articles/360004080591-How-much-is-the-minimum-payout-

I don't think it is wise to hide your help articles under a separate site, that also requires separate login credentials.

If you provide the information here in the forum, it will be very helpful for people comparing pools.

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not sure why the question cannot simply be answered here but pm sent.

hey Stryfe, mind sending me a PM so we can resolve your issue together please? thanks.

so if i was mining LTC and I had it set to "settle to BTC" but then later turned that off, the balance that is unpaid, will it combine/pay if I mine BTC? or is the only way to get that payout to set it back to "settle to BTC" and mine LTC that way until the balance reaches .005 BTC?

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Sorry cant use telegram.

hi, please join our telegram for support about your issue:

https://t.me/poolincommunity

@neutralLTC by accident I set LTC to settle in BTC - I am currently only mining LTC on Poolin, if I start to mine BTC will the LTC to BTC balance that is held be combined with the BTC I mine? or do I need to turn the LTC back to settle in BTC to get that amount being held?

great! please let me know if you or anyone else for that matter is facing any other issues

finally my m3 devices connected to poolin.  

i checked firmware again and i found that some of devices worked with firmware 20190404 and others worked with version 20190118.

could you please re-check if you have the newest firmware? (this is the first time we hear of this issue)

they work on other pools and they are connected to slush now , but i want to connect them to poolin . unfortunately i cant do it .

maybe test on another pool to see if it works else ware,

nova, ck, slush  .. ect  just a thought

all of my devices such as T2T and M20s work correctly but i cant connect my whatsminer m3 devices to poolin. i tested all urls and update my firmware .

i checked this url “stratum+tcp://btc-bj.ss.poolin.com:443” and other ulrs

what should i do?

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https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/btc-coms-bitcoin-mining-pool-dominance-threatened-by-poolin

Yes, thanks I think it's also an awesome feature, please let us know what cool stuff you do with this tool, who knows maybe we can promote your idea if its cool enough on our channels.

MicroBT does seem like a good product to support i will add your request to the request feature.

That's a pretty neat to see, could save a few headaches even setting up a small farm for a new pool. Do you have any plans to add in support for MicroBT products - Whatsminer models? It would definitely be more useful than keeping Ebit on there.

thanks for the question currently we support these models IN OUR MINER MANAGEMENT TOOL:

ANTMINER:
s9
s11
s15
s17
z9
z9 mini

Avalon
universal

ebit
e9i

innosillicon
T2
T2T

MinerBox
The miner monitoring software launched by Poolin can configure miners in batches, monitor the status of miners, firmware upgrade and also has an antivirus! Try it out.

What miners brands/models this supports?

Check out our new blog post about our tools here:

https://medium.com/poolin/poolins-excellent-suite-of-tools-for-miners-adde40fc2970

that is kind of you, thank you.

We will be adding two new tools to the pool by end of month, will keep the thread updated.

Very well, i added the pool to the list of pools supporting native segwit payouts in the Bitcoin wiki.

I will contact the team about adding that miner.

As for segwit addresses the answer is:

YES, payouts can be sent to native segwit addresses.

Including those that start with bc1q+

Can you add the Antminer R4 8.5 THs 845W to your profit calculator page?

Also, Can payouts be sent to native segwit addresses? Those starting with bc1q+?

cool to learn that you run an opensource pool Kano, I am just learning about this fact. perhaps wouldn't hurt to do some marketing outside of btctalk? i've only ever seen you on btctalk (just a kind suggestion)

Heh, looks like I combined the two separate bits of info into one.

Didn't realise twice as much strife was caused by Bitmain employees ...

... and FYI the pool I run was around and opensource a couple of years before yours was ...

we are the co-founders of btc.com. more information can be found here: https://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-bitmain-sues-rival-mining-pool

That guy is Dr. Yang, are you sure about that?

From what I've been told by a reliable source ...

This pool is run by the guy who was involved in the hardware development for Bitmain,
but left a few years ago, part of the reason why Bitmain didn't make any new miners for so long,
and then had to wait an agreed period of time before starting their own pool.

Though, this pool has been around for a year now already anyway ...

Yes! Try it out and let me know how it goes.

Supports FPPS ?

reserved

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