Topic: POOLZ Deceives again for Some Bounty Hunters(3rd Payment) (Read 1068 times)

This mounth Am ricived full payment poolz .. 

I got 3 months of payments in the same time, so they are not scam

After Paying two months Poolz deceives bounty hunters. They didn't pay bounty hunters from the 2nd Spreadsheet. The person responsible for payment has left the bounty group and not responding to our message. Looks like we are scammed as we should be paid on 15 April.

Same problem . Am for thist month not recived payment. For poolz campaign
Am in spreadsheet 2

Link to spreadsheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1IkkuaNN7cXmzNshUbjHI_-abipW6lMC7foGcB7ihEn8/htmlview#

I do not understand why in their ANN Thread people don’t post about these cases, maybe they don’t have hope that it can be resolved if they post in their ANN Thread? and did you try to address this issue on their telegram? because you said you begged 5 and 3 times, does that mean you were begging on their telegram group?

I dont know why these "20-30%" of participants are having troubles. Everything is set on automatic transaction. I got first/second/third batch of bounty reward on time. Poolz promised to distribute reward every month - I got rewards every 30 days. I'm using Ethereum address. I did not do anything extra. Just did bounty tasks, wait and receive rewards. Really dont understand why there are problems with distribution.

Try asking Fatema's help, he is the manager and can contact the POOLZ team. Promises to bounty hunters often make no sense when the price of a coin is too high.

I begged 5 days 1st payment.
I begged 3 days 2nd payment.

And now they just ignoring about 20-30% (or more) people! They don't pay me!

This is semi scam project! They just laundering money! Be careful!

SEMI SCAM!!!!!!!

I have been paid for March, though that of February was not paid. Fatema is not the problem, but Poolz CEO (Liam).

Thanks. i also receive my payment.

I have been paid for 2 months for the bounty. So, I request VOD to take down the negative trust as we have been paid for the bounty.

No, I never said I took money from the campaign. I get money from the team as my fees. And in the thread the OP already cleared that the accusation is about Poolz team, not about me. You can recheck the thread again.

@Rikafip also explained the thing above.




For the spent? I was handling the campaign my own. So, there was no spent there. As I manage everything by myself I keep all the money the team gives me as fees.

But nowhere in that first post @Sparrow96 accused manager for stealing the coins, he accused POOLZ team for denying to pay bounty hunters that changed their wallet address. He even explained that later on, saying that he doesn't blame  @Fatemablabla for this, as seen in his post below.

Your situation was you took what you needed from the campaign to work on the campaign.  Nothing wrong with that, and it's no one's business how much they paid you or what you paid out - only if you embezzled any coins.  An accusation has been made.  You can either call me a pedophile, or produce your business records, showing what you spent and how it was related to the campaign. 

I don’t think I wrote any suspicious thing on the PM. Just explained my situation. Do you want the proof of how much Poolz team paid me to run their campaign? I can show that no problem at all. But I don’t want to disclose that on public. So if you want and give me permission I can send you that on Pm. Thanks

If you can produce your evidence showing how much you took and what you spent it on, that will be a good start.  Otherwise, you cannot be trusted as per your PM to me. 

I mean that I get enough money to manage a project. I don’t want any token from the companies. If I need tokens I would rather ask them to give me some bonus. But I never do that. I am happy with the payment I get from a companies.

In Poolz bounty I gave them the final version of the spreadsheet which available in the Bounty thread. Than they created a new  spreadsheet from that with after removing some users with the reason of Fake user and new addresses. Don’t know hos they verified it. As I didn’t have access there and never asked to take care of this things. My job was done after submitting the final spreadsheet to them.

So, your feedback on my profile is not true. I never stole any token from Poolz bounty. You given reference to this thread. But in the first post of this thread doesn’t proof or show anything like that. So, I want you to reconsider your feedback on my profile and remove it. It’s harming my reputation here.

Fatema did send me a PM saying "I take enough money from the companies to manage everything.".  Without a detailed account of this, there is no way to show Fatema stole or mismanaged from the campaign - the same as every other donation campaign running right now.

I can say that you are also indirectly to blame, we have many examples when projects acted meanly, and for this, the bounty manager demanded tokens from the team as soon as the contract was signed and the bounty company started.

I was not in the bounty but I worked for them. They are not responding the guy names Sylvester is not responding as well I have made several messages to him but no response. I tried to reach them through the bounty group but still no response.

If this is the case I am gonna talk with some of my clients (for some help) on some blog sites and I will provide them all the proof of what they owe me.

Regards

UPDATE:
POOLZ team opened complaint form. Submit your details
If you missed previous one.
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1kFrt8vHNC7CMwTObR_Vb2rpba-m--M36wDBaOoock8U/edit

Message link: https://t.me/fatemabounty/27347

The message isn't pinned. Fatema or group admin should pin the message. If they miss again, they will flood the group again. So, I request admin to pin that message.

Hi Fatema I hope you also speak with poolz and clear up and open the complaint form again . We missed filling the complaint form because it wasn't pinned to the group and it got closed within a day .

Hope you understand and resolve the issue after speaking with the team.

Firstly I'm the one who also perticipated poolz bounty project. As i exprianced, fatema did her best for us.even she wanted to escrowed but unfortunately poolz tokens weren't created then. Poolz team sale their token without creating token.

Secondly I've got my payment even anyone can check Speedsheet provided by fatema. More than 95% bounty hunters got payment.


Thirdly it is the team, who change the rule and decided that pay us 10% monthly for 10months!! what will fatema do?? Team did that according to rules and cut off payment of bounty hunters because CEO thought those hunters were fake.that's unfair but recently he make an apology and distribution the rest of hunters.


Finally, fatema still trying her best behalf of hunters but if CEO ignore her, what can she do? Those kind of incedent often happened with many DT2 & reputational managers too atleast once in their cariar.so everyone should be tagged?? They are just manange, not the part of the main team who scam or cheat or cut reward


Note: As a hunter, i got payment. So i think this is my responsible to support manager fatema during her bad time. But I'm also requesting her behalf of bounty hunters, kindly talk with team again & try to solve this issue. As a hunter, i also expect justice for rest of my hunters btothers & sisters who work hard but not received their payment yet. Waiting for positive result

Hi, maybe you don't know. They will pay 10% every month. So, in 10 month's you will get your full amount. I want to hear if they paid you that 10% amount.

He owes me 440 token the CMO, I contacted CEO but he is not a cooperating person as well. I hope something to get sorted they paid me only 200USDT for 3~ months of work.

I will post all the chat screenshots here, I hope we get our tokens. I even said to them to pay me 50% tokens but they never listen. They are very fishy about paying even in USDT after the listing after taking the work.

Regards

that you stole the tokens, I do not believe, and the fact that you have little experience to conduct the bounty of the company, Yes, the problem you have me blocked in the group of al the fact that I often and with a sneer said about the company YELD BANK because you still after 3 months and never finished the table, and lying all the time that she was almost ready, and at the end of the week will be the announcement, but the table is not ready, all the screenshots of these words is, so you don't have to write what is not said, the group did not unlock. as a BM, you do not work well, at least do not lie, and speak as there is an announcement time

You know the wrong. I already paid most of the users. Payment cleared till Tg ambassadors. Only medium and tg left. But I’m out of my city for last 12days, will reach home on Sunday. Than will clear that payment also. I think only 5-600$ left.

She didn’t pay boringdao USDT. It was escrow payment but she didn’t pay. Some people got payment after crying for the payment. Most of the didn’t got paid. She try to manage by lame excuse. when people ask for the payment she threat for ban in her upcoming bounty.   

Here is the spreadsheet. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1IkkuaNN7cXmzNshUbjHI_-abipW6lMC7foGcB7ihEn8/edit#gid=1008847479 They paid 60 people. Some people missed submitting complain in the form. I also hope they will pay in future and won't create a further mess in the future. At least they understood their mistake.

I’ve heard that they already distributed the rewards to everyone including those empty or new wallet, which is a good one. I hope they continue to commit for the next 9 months since they tried to fool us, its hard to tell.

That’s true, Fatema didn’t steal she just mismanaged the campaign and not that active answering the query of the hunters on telegram. Btw, its paid already at least the 10% of the reward that’s good for now.

as you can see in the complaints form, 50 more people were added after the review, as well as my wallet address, today they promised to pay, we are waiting!


regarding Fatemablabla, I am not on her side,I have other claims against her, but everyone has seen and knows that the tokens are in the team, I did not deposit, according to her final table everything is calculated correctly, how she could steal the tokens I can not understand )

Somewhere I have seen such explanation (dont remember where and it is not Poolz related, but can be used somehow in our case) - We have less claps than the amount of participants. Participants did nothing and we decided to close Medium campaign.

In our case - there are more than 1 thousand participants in Medium campaign. The campaign ended November 17, 2020, so I've checked number of claps on the articles before that period. Minimum amount of claps is 1.5k, maximum 4,7k. Means hunters might have clapped more than needed. To bad it is impossible to check who clapped and who did not. There is chance that not a single hunter made a clap and all the claps are from people that are interested in the project.

Anyway, there is a rule "Do good comments on the post." and this is a weakest part of Poolz medium account. All the articles that were made during bounty campaign period has less than 50 comments. This could be the reason to close Medium campaign for being unsuccessful. Or manager could have checked who among 1026 participants really followed medium campaign rules and give him stakes.

The total some is less because I took 2fraction after the decimal. That’s why there is some less in the total sum.

To be honest, if they removed Medium part of the bounty completely (why they removed that btw?) I can see some logic not to redistribute those tokens to something else, as they were meant for Medium part of the campaign. I was asking about parts of the campaign that are still there, and whether they recalculated spreadsheet because they removed some users.


Same thing happened in Telegram and Discord part of the bounty. For example, Telegram allocation supposed to be 10%, or 2,500 tokens but based on the spreadsheet only 2443 tokens were allocated. Maybe we are missing something here, but bounty manager should explain that disrepancy.

I’m not, and I’ll go for what is right. Anyway, they already paid the 10% of the rewards but many of the hunters didn’t received the reward. Now, there’s a form that needs to fill out by those who didn’t receive the reward, hope that they’ll pay everyone who work for it. This has been messed up since they’ve announce the 10% monthly distribution, now they make another big change.

I participated on Poolz and seriously, I’m also about to open a scam accusation against them especially if they didn’t reply on the group.

No they not. I've participated in Twitter, Medium, Discord, Telegram campaigns. Noticed that it was mentioned they excluded Medium from distribution, calculated my rewards and they have send me for Twitter, Discord and Telegram, but did not increase total sum for 5% due to Medium being removed.

Another strange thing I've noticed. If bounty pool is 25,000 POZ and Medium is 5% of it (or 1250 POZ), why in Fatemablabla spreadsheet total sum of tokens in Medium sheet is only 1231,2 POZ ? Where is the difference ?

About empty wallets - has any one checked if these wallets violate the rule "Your forum account must be 2 months old to join this bounty campaign." ? 

I've already contacted them. Currently, I am in touch with them. I said to them changing to my old wallet if they don't distribute to new wallets. But they are not replying now. Actually, the community needs to know this type of new excuse. And I think they aren't hard-working. They are testing our patience. Continuously, changing the decision.


I respect their rules. Also, they have the right to adjust rules. But new wallets are from fraud! It's totally lame. They are trying not to pay hunters after their project got success.


We understand that. It's totally teams decision. But you could not convince them. With DEGO, you successfully handled. The team was also helpful. But Poolz team isn't. So if anyone should be accused it's POOLZ team, not you. In the future, you should escrow the bounty rewards.

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UPDATE:

The team says the will bring change to the rules. They will give an announcement in 48 hours.

Message Link: https://t.me/fatemabounty/26331

Kudos to Poolz team, they did the tetxbook version of bounty scam; delaying the bounty distribution in the the combination with removing large amount of bounty hunters. Not a surprise though when you see the Poolz token price, which keeps pumping.

I am curious about one thing; did they recalculate the whole spreadsheet after removing bounty hunters so those who stayed got more tokens, or they just basically reduced bounty pool by removing hunters?


That's obviously bullshit reason to remove bounty hunters, but if it wasn't for that, they would probably  find some other reason to pay less.

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Just to add that I don't see how @Fatemblabla stole the coins when Poolz team is in charge of distribution.

[Google translate ] manager please help. Previously I passed the old spreadshet for the YouTube campaign ... after a long wait for the prize and it hasn't been distributed my video has been deleted because it counted the stake ... but in the last spreadshet by the poolz team. my wallet is not listed

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#edit
Final spreadsheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1--WyTj4lT5LZVTHVUAmryBP2MVVLPIHelIFlV8zacsc/edit#gid=372942520

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Edit 17/02/2021

Am recived 10 % poolz token for thist month  after fill out the complaint form in the bounty group

https://etherscan.io/tx/0x30f336e395434c1e6c52b7ec9dbb2a5fdc495494748f242d50402a27198cd1b2

I am also frustrated with poolz team. They removed many users from the final sheet that I gave and made a new sheet. I can’t do anything there. Most shitty project that I managed.

@vod I didn’t steal coin, it was stolen by Poolz team. My final version of the sheet has everything. Please remove the tag. Thanks

So what is considered a fraudster's wallet is a wallet that has never transactions at all or a few transactions are also considered a fraud?
I also checked the wallet spreadsheet, even if they had transactions, they didn't get their POOLZ tokens so I was still confused about how the team verified and decided that new wallets were scamers.

@goaldigger did you ask the team you participated in or just wanted to ask?

Indeed this has become the team's decision but for me it is not right because some hunters want to get their rights who do not receive reward.

Are you basing your reputation and trust that they will pay?

I’ve already talked to the team and as per them, they are rechecking all those who didn’t receive the first batch of the reward. I know this is really frustrating after series of changes on their bounty distribution but I think they are really working hard for this one, so if you didn’t receive the reward go contact them directly, there’s still hope though.

Fatemablabla did not stole bounty money. She only managed the bounty. Poolz was responsible for bounty payment.

After a long time of discussion, POOLZ has paid to the bounty hunters. But they didn't pay the full amount the bounty manager finalized. When it came to the time of payment, we saw U-Turn from the team. They started creating different excuse to delay payment. After starting payment now they removed some of the bounty hunters For using new wallets. In their logic every new wallets are created to cheat.

First, they said they will distribute the payment every 6 months after the TGE. They will pay in 5 rounds and every time they will pay only 20 %. That would take 2.5 years to complete the full payment. Because of hunters opposition, they cancelled this payment structure.

Message Link: https://t.me/fatemabounty/23499



Secondly, after cancelling the previous decision, the CEO announced a new payment deal. He said bounty hunters will be considered as early investors. So, they will distribute 10% each month. Which will take 10 months to clear the payment. We were happy with this decision. This was really a good deal.

Message Link: https://t.me/fatemabounty/23995



In the group the BM said, the first payment will be done on 15 February. Today they distributed the payment. But they did not pay all bounty hunters. They excluded many bounty hunters for lame logic. They says they have excluded all participants who used fake wallets. Their logic is every new wallets are "fake wallets".

The Bounty Manager selected 1526 entry for payment and the team selected only 931 bounty hunters to pay salary. Also, they cancelled the Medium Bounty.

My question is, from where the team learnt that, new wallets are fake wallets. I knew using new wallets for every transaction is a good practice. In the bounty rules they never said, bounty hunters can't use new wallets. Now they are refusing to pay. I urge the community to be united against Bounty like POOLZ which deceives bounty hunters.

Payment Conclusion Message: https://t.me/fatemabounty/25807


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My conversation with their admin



In this conversation he said, new wallets are fake wallets. So, they have removed those wallets. How funny!

Bounty Details:

Bounty link - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5280470
BM - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/fatemablabla-1110071

Final Bounty Spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1--WyTj4lT5LZVTHVUAmryBP2MVVLPIHelIFlV8zacsc/edit#gid=372942520


Previous Scam Accusations started by Bounty Hunters:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/another-deception-of-bounty-payments-to-hunters-poolz-5312242