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January 14, 2021, 05:37:22 PM
#25
Seems that Italy is without a government right at the moment. The people in government offices are simply acting without having anybody over them. The Pope is probably under "House Arrest"... because of trade agreements that let Trump's Executive Order work over there.

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January 14, 2021, 04:33:02 PM
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The Pope has been arrested for Child Trafficking and President Trump has put the military in charge of the country with Trump as the Commander in Chief. In a few days, everyone will wake up to the TRUTH and will be very embarrassed at their stupidity in disbelieving what we have been telling them over the past year.

Use your brain Tash.  The pope wasn't arrested and Trump didn't just put the military in charge of another country.
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January 14, 2021, 03:02:35 PM
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January 14, 2021, 02:39:35 PM
#22
he has not been arrested.
tash DO YOUR RESEARCH
your as bad as the idiots that make facebook/twitter posts falsely claiming celebrities have died.

what is your goal/desires of being such an unresearched idiot
what is your end game of being such a copy/paste conspiracy queen

is it boredom, entertainment. or do you have deeper motives of wanting to cause trouble by seeing how many other idiots fall for your false claims.
are you a scammer trying to build up a black list of idiots based on how many support your lies. knowing the more stupid people are the more easy you can scam them later?

basically im asking. what do you get out of being a lying idiot?

Post count go up

Conspiracy tards being to follow him

Probably some boredom as well. Or maybe he actually thinks all of this is real as well and the MSM is hiding all of it.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/01/12/fact-check-pope-francis-not-arrested-story-fabricated/6625183002/
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-pope-francis-not-arrested/fact-check-article-falsely-reports-arrest-of-pope-francis-idUSKBN29H2KO

Not too hard to find out that this story is fake, but the conspiracies are targeting people who won’t look any further and ACTUALLY want to beleive that this crazy stuff is true — even if it obviously isn’t.
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January 11, 2021, 08:28:24 PM
#21
Pope arrested


Actually, it was probably the President of Italy, arrested by Trump black-baggers, for his role in the election fraud.
https://thecommonsenseshow.com/activism-conspiracy-tragedy/trumps-counter-coup-against-deep-state-democrats-and-their-chicom-allies-underway


However:
Connecting Dots reveals the stories in play around us; here is a DOT Unusual Movement near Vatican post Blackout Yesterday I counted 2 Unmarked black SUV's with 15 Unmarked black Vans Police multiple escorts' flashing lights but no sirens at least 4 unmarked in the front of the convoy and six cars at the rear 4 being marked police cars; I would say that's not normal Monday morning traffic to the Vatican, how about you.


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January 11, 2021, 08:09:35 PM
#20
hard to say if this is real or not. is there any source other than conservativebeaver.com?

You never trust a Canadian beaver, esp a conservative one.
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January 11, 2021, 12:16:28 PM
#19
Seems to me that everybody has an amount of fake news in his news... myself included at times. If the Pope really was arrested, his position of power would make his arrest to be of a different nature than if he was a simple guy on the street. In other words, if he has been arrested, it is only by paperwork from some governmental authorities. His literal position has not changed in his Papal kingdom.

IF the pope were ever truly arrested in normal fashion (just like the average guy on the street), the standard news media would be pumping the story out around the world with the idea of selling more copy. It's all about money.

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January 11, 2021, 10:36:51 AM
#18

So because they have no prison system, they didn't lock him up despite the alleged violation?  If indeed he was arrested, just a slight glimpse of him having a conversation with the police would have been in the news and on facebook. So far nothing.

I think this fake news started when the pope liked a picture of a lady in bikini from Instagram. But it was said that his Instagram account was hacked. True or not. He is human and can like any picture he wants. No violation committed with that.
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January 11, 2021, 10:09:47 AM
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Article 22 of the Lateran Treaty provides that the Italian government, when requested by the Holy See, seeks prosecution and detention of criminal suspects, at the expense of the Vatican. The Vatican has no prison system

Is this letter addressed to Trump last year from Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano's a request for help?

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"Mr. President, In recent months we have been witnessing the formation of two opposing sides that I would call Biblical: the children of light and the children of darkness. The children of light constitute the most conspicuous part of hu- manity, while the children of darkness represent an absolute minority. And yet the former are the object of a sort of discrimination which places them in a situation of moral inferiority with respect to their adversaries, who often hold strategic positions in government, in politics, in the economy and in the media. In an apparently inexplicable way, the good are held hostage by the wicked and by those who help them either out of self- interest or fearfulness.

These two sides, which have a Biblical nature, follow the clear separation between the offspring of the Woman and the offspring of the Serpent. On the one hand there are those who, although they have a thousand defects and weaknesses, are motivated by the desire to do good, to be honest, to raise a family, to engage in work, to give prosperity to their homeland, to help the needy, and, in obedience to the Law of God, to merit the King- dom of Heaven. On the other hand, there are those who serve themselves, who do not hold any moral princi- ples, who want to demolish the family and the nation, exploit workers to make themselves unduly wealthy, fo- ment internal divisions and wars, and accumulate power and money: for them the fallacious illusion of tem- poral well-being will one day -- if they do not repent -- yield to the terrible fate that awaits them, far from God, in eternal damnation.

In society, Mr. President, these two opposing realities co-exist as eternal enemies, just as God and Satan are eternal enemies. And it appears that the children of darkness -- whom we may easily identify with the deep state which you wisely oppose and which is fiercely waging war against you in these days -- have decided to show their cards, so to speak, by now revealing their plans. They seem to be so certain of already having every- thing under control that they have laid aside that circumspection that until now had at least partially concealed their true intentions. The investigations already under way will reveal the true responsibility of those who managed the Covid emergency not only in the area of health care but also in politics, the economy, and the media. We will probably find that in this colossal operation of social engineering there are people who have decided the fate of humanity, arrogating to themselves the right to act against the will of citizens and their representa- tives in the governments of nations.

We will also discover that the riots in these days were provoked by those who, seeing that the virus is inevita- bly fading and that the social alarm of the pandemic is waning, necessarily have had to provoke civil disturb- ances, because they would be followed by repression which, although legitimate, could be condemned as an unjustified aggression against the population. The same thing is also happening in Europe, in perfect syn- chrony. It is quite clear that the use of street protests is instrumental to the purposes of those who would like to see someone elected in the upcoming presidential elections who embodies the goals of the deep state and who expresses those goals faithfully and with conviction. It will not be surprising if, in a few months, we learn once again that hidden behind these acts of vandalism and violence there are those who hope to profit from the dis- solution of the social order so as to build a world without freedom: Solve et Coagula, as the Masonic adage teaches.

Although it may seem disconcerting, the opposing alignments I have described are also found in religious cir- cles. There are faithful Shepherds who care for the flock of Christ, but there are also mercenary infidels who seek to scatter the flock and hand the sheep over to be devoured by ravenous wolves. It is not surprising that these mercenaries are allies of the children of darkness and hate the children of light: just as there is a deep state, there is also a deep church that betrays its duties and forswears its proper commitments before God. Thus the Invisible Enemy, whom good rulers fight against in public affairs, is also fought against by good shepherds in the ecclesiastical sphere. It is a spiritual battle, which I spoke about in my recent Appeal which was pub- lished on May 8.

For the first time, the United States has in you a President who courageously defends the right to life, who is not ashamed to denounce the persecution of Christians throughout the world, who speaks of Jesus Christ and the right of citizens to freedom of worship. Your participation in the March for Life, and more recently your proclamation of the month of April as National Child Abuse Prevention Month, are actions that confirm which side you wish to fight on. And I dare to believe that both of us are on the same side in this battle, albeit with different weapons.

For this reason, I believe that the attack to which you were subjected after your visit to the National Shrine of Saint John Paul II is part of the orchestrated media narrative which seeks not to fight racism and bring social order, but to aggravate dispositions; not to bring justice, but to legitimize violence and crime; not to serve the truth, but to favor one political faction. And it is disconcerting that there are Bishops -- such as those whom I recently denounced -- who, by their words, prove that they are aligned on the opposing side. They are subser- vient to the deep state, to globalism, to aligned thought, to the New World Order which they invoke ever more frequently in the name of a universal brotherhood which has nothing Christian about it, but which evokes the Masonic ideals of those want to dominate the world by driving God out of the courts, out of schools, out of families, and perhaps even out of churches.

The American people are mature and have now understood how much the mainstream media does not want to spread the truth but seeks to silence and distort it, spreading the lie that is useful for the purposes of their mas- ters. However, it is important that the good -- who are the majority --wake up from their sluggishness and do not accept being deceived by a minority of dishonest people with unavowable purposes. It is necessary that the good, the children of light, come together and make their voices heard. What more effective way is there to do this, Mr. President, than by prayer, asking the Lord to protect you, the United States, and all of humanity from this enormous attack of the Enemy? Before the power of prayer, the deceptions of the children of darkness will collapse, their plots will be revealed, their betrayal will be shown, their frightening power will end in nothing, brought to light and exposed for what it is: an infernal deception.

Mr. President, my prayer is constantly turned to the beloved American nation, where I had the privilege and honor of being sent by Pope Benedict XVI as Apostolic Nuncio. In this dramatic and decisive hour for all of humanity, I am praying for you and also for all those who are at your side in the government of the United States. I trust that the American people are united with me and you in prayer to Almighty God. United against the Invisible Enemy of all humanity, I bless you and the First Lady, the beloved American na- tion, and all men and women of good will.

    Carlo Maria Vigano Titular Archbishop of Ulpiana Former Apostolic Nuncio to the United States of America"
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January 11, 2021, 09:33:26 AM
#16
This news is not true. Who is going to arrest the Pope? The same people who worship him like a god? Even if he is caught molesting a child no one will have the courage to arrest him because he is believed to be above the law.

Given the news is not true, But let's just answer this:

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Who is going to arrest the Pope? The same people who worship him like a god?

Given the fact that there's a writings or laws that separates the state from church, and yep the Police will. Why? As he breaks the law.

If he is caught molesting a child, that would be a headline Grin and Nope nobody is above the Law to be honest. But with enough money and power, you could "MANIPULATE" the so called Law.

Funny how you others see the Pope as God. That's the reason why Jesus was so angry when people worships a statue.  Grin

ps. I respect each and everyone's beliefs. But, yet I still find it funny, when a religious leader being nab for a crime or something (provided that there's factual evidences) his/her followers are always shouting the same thing over and over again. "He/she's above the Law" etc,  Grin


I can understand nobody is above the law (even tho it might seem at times like people are not above the law, but in bed with the law), however, Vatican City is an independent city-state and has its own authority and jurisdiction. With that in mind, Italian police do not have jurisdiction to just step in and arrest people, Vatican City has its own police for that. So if any arrests do occur it would have to be by Vatican police or in a joint effort with them (however that might be more of a political problem than we think). So that brings up numerous questions if such an event occurs. I wouldn't be so sure that in any event the Pope would be outright arrested, rather it would be some kind of a basterdized open type of a proceeding. I might be wrong, but it seems something like that would be plausible.
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January 11, 2021, 09:13:54 AM
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This news is not true. Who is going to arrest the Pope? The same people who worship him like a god? Even if he is caught molesting a child no one will have the courage to arrest him because he is believed to be above the law.

Given the news is not true, But let's just answer this:

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Who is going to arrest the Pope? The same people who worship him like a god?

Given the fact that there's a writings or laws that separates the state from church, and yep the Police will. Why? As he breaks the law.

If he is caught molesting a child, that would be a headline Grin and Nope nobody is above the Law to be honest. But with enough money and power, you could "MANIPULATE" the so called Law.

Funny how you others see the Pope as God. That's the reason why Jesus was so angry when people worships a statue.  Grin

ps. I respect each and everyone's beliefs. But, yet I still find it funny, when a religious leader being nab for a crime or something (provided that there's factual evidences) his/her followers are always shouting the same thing over and over again. "He/she's above the Law" etc,  Grin
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January 11, 2021, 12:17:17 AM
#14
Would've taken you 1 or 2 minutes to figure out the pope wasn't arrested Tash.  

Why do you do this over and over?
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January 11, 2021, 12:04:46 AM
#13
I guess conspiracy theories is a part of society? that's all ive been seeing today, and by doing a little research i find it all to be false, or a waste of my time, either way... what do you gain from this knowledge?
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January 10, 2021, 02:33:35 PM
#12
Just a normal day a shitload of blacked out cars/vans driving through Rom
https://twitter.com/i/status/1348335987777269761

 * There definitely was a blackout at the Vatican last night (five hours, from 2 AM to 7 AM.)
 * St. Peter's Square was empty this morning.
 * It is confirmed that the Pope did not say prayers in public at noon as previously scheduled.
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January 10, 2021, 02:05:07 PM
#11
This news is not true. Who is going to arrest the Pope? The same people who worship him like a god? Even if he is caught molesting a child no one will have the courage to arrest him because he is believed to be above the law.

Actually he's the head of the Vatican and has his own personal guard. You can't simply come in and arrest him. All they'd be able to do is issue a formal letter asking him to agree to a formal hearing and so on. In a way he's a diplomat with immunity, same as a foreign ambassador. You don't arrest people like him.
Of course he was not arrested and the whole article is bullshit.
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January 10, 2021, 10:12:31 AM
#10

Tried searching on facebook but there was no real video of it. You know these days, people take video all the time and if its the pope, chances is that you can see it live already on your screen if its just true but so far the people are responding to some shared post telling its not true.

The world will probably stop just to capture on camera just to take a video of the pope being handcuff. I'd be the first to laugh actually sadly its not true.

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Prophecies of the Irish Saint Malachy, the 12th century bishop of Armagh, have thrilled and dismayed for centuries and he stated there would be only one more pope after Benedict.
https://www.irishcentral.com/roots/history/st-malachys-prophecy-pope-francis
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January 10, 2021, 09:48:32 AM
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Tried searching on facebook but there was no real video of it. You know these days, people take video all the time and if its the pope, chances is that you can see it live already on your screen if its just true but so far the people are responding to some shared post telling its not true.

The world will probably stop just to capture on camera just to take a video of the pope being handcuff. I'd be the first to laugh actually sadly its not true.
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January 10, 2021, 09:33:25 AM
#8

Was this one start of it couple of days ago?
https://gizadeathstar.com/2021/01/pope-francis-seizes-vatican-bank/
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January 10, 2021, 09:00:58 AM
#7
Pretty simple to debunk this with a google search.  So weird how people always want to see the worst from religion.  I guess you find what you go looking for...  In this case though, it is a hoax and your face is covered in egg.
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January 10, 2021, 07:42:53 AM
#6
Total electricity blackout at the Vatican last night and dozens of roadblocks went up in Rome at the same time
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January 10, 2021, 07:00:27 AM
#5
he has not been arrested.
tash DO YOUR RESEARCH
your as bad as the idiots that make facebook/twitter posts falsely claiming celebrities have died.

what is your goal/desires of being such an unresearched idiot
what is your end game of being such a copy/paste conspiracy queen

is it boredom, entertainment. or do you have deeper motives of wanting to cause trouble by seeing how many other idiots fall for your false claims.
are you a scammer trying to build up a black list of idiots based on how many support your lies. knowing the more stupid people are the more easy you can scam them later?

basically im asking. what do you get out of being a lying idiot?
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January 10, 2021, 06:30:27 AM
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The only other source available is that his personal doctor died in the shootout of covid-19
https://www.catholicworldreport.com/2021/01/09/pope-francis-doctor-dies-from-covid-19-complications/

The gun battle https://youtu.be/vrzT9fzRJ6U
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January 10, 2021, 06:02:31 AM
#3
hard to say if this is real or not. is there any source other than conservativebeaver.com? I'm not a huge fan of any religion but I'd like to give the benefit of the doubt especially if there are no other sources available other than conservativebeaver.com. but if this is true I'll be enjoying the reaction of my fellow countrymen(where the majority are Catholics) that has high regard for pope Francis.
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January 10, 2021, 05:45:16 AM
#2
cool, who will be the new pope?

a: I know, the old one, unless he too is "cooked"?
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January 10, 2021, 05:37:32 AM
#1
Well todays church service is cancelled

Canadian news side Conservative Beaver has this article
https://www.conservativebeaver.com/2021/01/10/vatican-blackout-pope-arrested-on-80-count-indictment-for-child-trafficking-fraud/

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VATICAN BLACKOUT: Pope arrested on 80 count indictment for Child Trafficking, Fraud
conservativebeaver_skphjv Posted on January 10, 2021

VATICAN / ITALY – Pope Francis aka Jorge Mario Bergoglio was arrested Saturday in connection with an 80- count indictment of charges including possession of child pornography, human trafficking, incest, possession of drug paraphernalia and felony fraud.

The Italian National Prosecutor’s Office confirmed it ordered the arrests, and filed the charges.

    Man arrested on drug charges now facing 63 additional charges including child porn, human trafficking in Limestone County

Military officers, Italian police, and their Sex Crimes Unit went to the pope’s home in the Vatican, they arrested him and several other high ranking officials, and placed them all under arrest without incident. People near the scene have reported hearing gunshots, but the Police would not confirm if they were the ones firing the weapons.

Pope Francis is currently being held in an unknown prison, being interrogated by Federal Agents working for the state of Italy and Interpol. The FBI is reportedly making arrangements to fly in and interrogate him once Interpol is done with him.

Giuseppe Governale, Italy’s chief anti-mafia prosecutor, was called in early into the investigation into Pope Francis and others within the Vatican. He said the group was “underestimated” and particularly dangerous because of its ability to proliferate across nations and infiltrate them.

    “These individuals are truly the worst of the worst in society. I can promise you, we will not stop targeting human trafficking until we put a stop to this despicable trade in the Vatican and Italy, as well as surrounding countries around Europe. While I am a lead prosecutor in Italy, my department will strive to protect our citizens, especially those that need us most, our children”.
    Giuseppe Governale

In order to make the arrest, police and military agents had to cut off the power in the Vatican, as well as dim the live cam. This was noticed by web-sleuths, who quickly became suspicious of what was happening in the Vatican.

Some people speculated the Pope could be the “first arrest.” And it appears they were right in their speculation. According to the Interpol agents, this is the “first out of many.”

The judge has imposed a EU wide publication ban. Fortunately, the ban doesn’t affect Canada or the US, and the Conservative Beaver received the exclusive scoop for this story via a confidential Italian contact.


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