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In fact, many experts say that India overtook China's population almost 10 years ago.

Why do many sources still put China first? Many people claim that it's just difficult to calculate correctly the number of people in India.

that is very true, the government concerned only cares about themselves without thinking about how to make the distribution of population even and well-organized ^{(population is the strength of a country)}

Population is the greatest resource of a country. The problem is that most government people are not wise enough to use the population resource correctly.

This is why some people want to destroy the population... like with a fake Covid pandemic, which was really snake venom poisoning of the population.

Over population is the main problem of the under developed countries because those countries have lack of resources and with high population the government is unable to provide facilities to everyone. Also they do not have enough measures to have a control on the population. As opposed to the developed countries, where an increase in population may not be a big issue as they have more resources too but since they have a better mechanism, they have the population control techniques too.

Here you can find the top 10 most populated countries of the world.

Who gives the population mark for a country and what criteria do they use to judge if a country is overpopulated? I believe if a government properly allocates resources, provides jobs, and reduces unemployment, the issue of overpopulation will reduce. When people are employed, they can feed their families, take care of themselves, and access basic amenities.

Instead of focusing on population numbers, governments and societies should improve living standards, provide education, and ensure economic stability. If governments want to control population growth, they should set up initiatives to educate citizens on birth control. You can't just expect population growth to slow down without taking action.

It's not just about taking population readings every year and lamenting. Governments should provide solutions through education or economic stability. Not everyone is educated enough to know how to control their family planning, so governments should step in to provide support.

You don't understand how great God is; nobody does.

God is so great, and so full of love, that He made us so that we could praise Him for His greatness, because that's the way we get the best benefit possible, and He gets the praise.

i am sorry for what your father experienced, actually your little brother was raised wrongly, your father should not have spoiled him so much, personality disorders are something that is often experienced by those who were spoiled too much as children.

From the news that i read, 56.5% of workers in the manual sector in Japan are Indonesian citizens.  Well, actually the distribution of the population is very good, but you need to know that there are several types of people who cannot be accepted carelessly, including asylum seekers from countries at war or residents from overpopulated countries, they can become pests.

I heard a long time ago from my grandmother that love can be poison if it is too much. Now I fully believe this as my father used to give my younger brother everything whether he needed it or not. And now he has become so disobedient that he treats his father very badly if he cannot fulfill his huge demands which are impossible to fulfill. Now I often see my father crying.
However, if the country's population is high and they cannot be used in the necessary areas then it will become a poison for the country. So if they can be used in the required fields by increasing their skills then the overall development of the country seems to happen.

Particularly given that Japan and UK have already quite a density (338 / m2 and 279 /km2, not that far from India (431)).

If you look at the population distribution and countries, there are factor which are far more important, historically for how the population is concentrated. As stupid as it may seem nowadays, agricultural water and arable land are very important. You can perfectly have a poor country able to self-sustain lots of people if you have those two.

Yes it is an important solution by making the people of the country skilled by employing some part of them in productive work if they can be sent out of the country which is called export of public resources. Just as the government will play an effective role in making the country's population a public resource, if the people of the country cannot focus on educating themselves then the country will never develop. Therefore if the people of the country try to support themselves without relying on the government then the real development of the country will take place.

You are correct. Population should be turned into a public resource because it can increase the profit of the government of that country such as providing employment for the able-bodied people outside the country and providing employment for the talented people in the country according to their merit. As a citizen of a country with a high population, it is the responsibility of the people living in that country to continue working to make themselves and their families financially independent by their own merits and not depending only on the will of the government.
Every poor country may have a disproportionately large population so the government of that country should provide additional financial support to its people so that the population can be gradually converted into public resources.

^^^ There's plenty of room if government stops trying to ignore (or rape) the people, and starts to work properly for their housing. Remember, China built 20 big cities that are virtually uninhabited. If people moved into them, and opened up their current land for farming... there isn't a population problem in China. India could do the same. And even Bangladesh could do it.

I can't imagine what will happen in 50 years. Especially China and India, they will probably die of viruses there.

Anything extra in the world is harmful be it nectar. So we can get rid of it by applying a little awareness. As I have seen earlier my grandmother used to cook curry and when the amount of salt in the curry was high, she used to leave a few leaves of malabar spinach in the curry for some time. And after a while he would remove the leaves from the curry to reduce the saltiness a bit. Similarly when the population of a country increases if the people of the country can be converted into public resources then I believe that the problem of population growth can be solved.

The higher life quality is, less children people have, and consequently the population size decreases on long term. That is what we see in Europe and every other top tier countries where people don't struggle financially to survive. Once third world countries become more pleasant to live on, we are likely to see a decline on the population size as well, taking the examples from the developed nations into consideration.

It's problematic nowadays, though, that those who don't have any conditions to raise a child are the ones who have the most. Meanwhile, those who have better financial, moral and educational conditions choose to not have any. This formula is inevitably going to bring more chaos to the world, as more differences, scarcity and inequity are going to be generated between the people.

This scenario can be reverted if public politics are adopted to take education to people around the globe regards this matter.

Usually ant farms containers are built with little thickness on purpose, so children are more likely to see how ants work in the tunnels, just a little detail I wanted to point out, as I was myself interested in antfarms when I was a child.
In the case of humanity being God's ant farm, I like to think God creates us beyond being a source of amusement for him, in the same way an ant colony is a source of amusement for a child. We are supposed to have a purpose beyond that, being granted by him to us.

It is true there is plenty of land and places to be inhabited in this planet, but yet, we are seeking to build on the moon and on the red planet as soon as possible. It must be because something has changed.

If it is related to population, it is very difficult to equalize it and requires very persistent efforts to achieve all of this, because each person's character is different and it is very difficult depending on their habits, especially globally it is very difficult to achieve an even population.

More populations on the planet should be turned into public resources which should be taken separately for each country. The world will give you a compliment to establish yourself as a wealth. The world will give you a compliment to establish yourself as a wealth. Resources are developed by the people.

Mate, I don't think I quite understand you... Do you mean that the earth is God's humanity farm, an attempt to control the population is an attempt to uproot God's plant? If no, you can through more light so that I can understand you in clear terms.

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Op, the world is made up of many countries with different nationalities and believes. What works in China might not work in middle Africa. It is left for the government to chose what works best for them and implement for the goodness of her citizens.

Overpopulation of the planet is bad. I wonder how they will deal with this.

Overpopulation is when too many populations disrupt the balance of the environment. Everything will be maintained if the population balance is in control. Population can be brought under control without any population decline through lifestyle changes. Demographics can be applied to a specific nation or the entire world if countries think carefully.

Have you seen an ant farm? It's a glass fish tank filled with dirt, and it has a colony of ants in it. Sometimes they dig their tunnels along the glass, and you can watch them working away.

Earth is God's humanity farm, just to see what humans will do next. There is plenty of room in the world. What we are missing is wisdom among ourselves to use it properly.

It is almost impossible to control the population balance in the countries of the world due to ethnic differences economic factors caste differences productive population situation and many other reasons. Let us think about it all the population in each of our countries can never be productive or good. Why would other countries want to take those people? Therefore if population density is a problem in any country then that country has to adopt its own control measures.

You need to understand that no matter how population is regulated, countries will still be more populated than the other and moreover, it's not every country that is worried about their increasing population because there are countries that are less populated, so those countries will still need to gain more population instead of decreasing in population. However, I don't think overpopulation is bad for a country that have a good economic system because the only problem a country that is overpopulated can have is when they are having severe economic situations in the country otherwise, humans are meant to increase in numbers unlike other creatures of the world.

I learnt that China had a one child birth policy in September 25 1980 when their population rate was approaching 1 billion people but after the implementation of the policy the rate of Child birth declined until the program ended around 2016 so it was after then that couples were allowed to have up to two children but even after the announcement by the Chinese government, couples didn't get so quick in having a second child and it also caused a reduction in the population of China even till date because imagine having higher death rate than birth rate so even till date most couples still finds it difficult to bear two children in China but as for India i don't think they have any birth control policy being enacted by the government except at the discretion of couples decision so they are supposed to have more increase in Population than China. Although the population difference between India and China is very close as the both countries has about 1.4 billion people in their respective population.

Generally population growth depends on the size of the country, and some other important points should follow.  In this case, if the country is developing, then it is normal for the population to increase because people in that country are not very aware of the population. But in developed countries you will notice that their population rate is under control, and they are aware of population.  In particular, underdeveloped countries are most prone to population problems and face various shortages.

I think all events are now taking place in order to reduce the planet's population.

Overpopulation is not yet considered a problem in most First World countries. These countries generally have lower birth rates & better access to resources, healthcare & education which help to stabilise or even decrease their population growth. Some First World countries could face specific challenges related to population like aging populations & demographic imbalances which can have economic & social implications. Overpopulation is more commonly associated with developing countries where rapid population growth can strain resources & infrastructure.

^^^ The problem with social programs is they have to be administered. Administration costs money, and the whole government gets a piece of the administration money. It's called something like 'rape the people to help them out'.

I believe I could understand if people living in a country like the United States decided they do not want to have a child or feel they are in a position to fully provide to a child until adulthood. But Japanese society is quite different from what we usually are used to in the West, if you think about it.
It could be because I am quite ignorant on the topic but I still don't understand the reason of the declining population in a country like Japan, where they seem to have things under control and do not seem to be going through a very serious economical turmoil like other countries in the West are.
For example, buying a home in the United States is out of reach for most people, housing is super expensive, while in Japan there are social programs which allow Japanese residents to applied for a long term apartment if they earn less than an established threshold.

They are declining in population and we've got the generation now that don't want to have a child and they just want to enjoy life. Things have changed quickly and thanks to the entire global inflation and situation of each country's economy. We see here that even a strong candidate and first world country still has its own struggle.

I think that I've watched someone that gets to know that tax policies for giving birth. It will give them those assistance but obviously it's not enough to grow a kid until fully able to work and contribute to the economy. And as for the policy that they're inviting other races to get into their country to have a family, they will soon have problem when they're being flocked by tons of them.

The following are the policies that Japan has started to implement to increase their population.


The Japanese government, in this case, must move quickly to increase the population of their citizens, because it is impossible for a country to survive for long if it lacks population.  Apart from increasing the birth rate, actually allowing citizens from other countries to live is one of the policy options that can be taken to accelerate population growth in Japan.

Efforts to increase the birth rate in developed countries are carried out by the government, such as Japan and Canada. To increase the population in these countries, the government of that country provides various incentives and other facilities. In many developing countries, because of the high population, the government encourages birth control methods. In many cases the government gets success with this method. High population in less developed countries creates additional pressure for the government.

I known the advanced countries always have a way to make sure they regulate their population but what about in under developed counties? How would they manage their over increasing population that could lead to over population soon..
Many of these countries which are under developed are not even doing anything or trying to run a sensor that would count and know their actual population. I think sometimes, these are caused due to corruption embezzlement of government funds for personal luxury.

there is something that I want to let some people know concerning overpopulated country some country who is populated they have advantages when he come in terms of crisis like War between the country and another they will have a several recruited men through their population to become soldier that will defend their nation another way it will also cause a criminal offense when they country who is overpopulated refused to create employment opportunities for the Citizens so this is the place that overpopulation have effect if you government cannot be able to manage it

The population of the world may be increasing but in some countries Europe for example
the population might start to decline.
GenZ currently on average are less likely to have children because of housing pressures and the
concern of bringing children into a world struggling with climate change, the thinking could be
"whats the point if there is no climate"

Personally when it comes to india, I cannot understand why people in an impoverished
society would bring more children into that system and put even more financial pressure
on themselves.

Especially as the population is increasing all over the world, we cannot throw away the old people as people are born and die. I couldn't agree more with you, the birth control rate every citizen should keep in mind. One to two children is enough especially one boy and one girl is a happy family. But the population in the world is increasing so much that the care of the elderly has decreased, but we cannot neglect the elderly. Because I will also grow old one day (that's why every people should be given equal rights) such dilemma cannot be created in the family.

how many country do you see today that regulate charge bearing it is a few in nation that you will see a country Who regulates a child bearing over population on when there is no appropriate control of child bet, so I do tell people to not involve themselves in so many child bearing or birth, so another thing that I have to tell you is that we supposed to also support our government when government is not doing what are supposed to do, I know that over population is bad to have.

When a country has a population that is larger than its available resources and its capacity to accommodate this large number of people, it is called overpopulation and there is no benefit in being overpopulated as a country. Just as you said about your country, it is good for a country to regulate their population so they will have a balance in the country. Failure to have a balance will cause the citizens to struggle for lots of basic amenities thereby leading to a low or high cost of living as the case may be and even underdevelopment.


Imagine having lots of natural resources and there are no sufficient manpower available to efficiently utilise these available resources, the country will still struggle with underdevelopment. This is why most countries encourage the inflow of immigrants to compensate for the low population.
Same applies when there are too much people too. The population size is very significant to the growth of any country and it should not be taken for granted.

Yes that is reality, government controlling population is not a bad one because if you check the disadvantage of over population is greater than it's advantages, because over population increases crime rate, illegal harnessing if country natural resources, poverty rate and malnutrition and many More I totally agree that apart from war there is nothing too good of engaging or allow population that the government or nation can't Carter for as it will course more harm to the government , though some may said it increase productivity but that is when the government has more natural resources they have checked with large population they can't harness apart from that, is of no use control of it serves better.

There's something that I want to ask very important to me what does the impact of large population in a country because for me I've not seen any reason by a country should be having a population size that is larger than them for my country we regulate a child bearing so that there will not be a population that is higher than the government control because I've not seen any benefit to a population except when there is occurrence of war, without that I've not seen any other benefits of population to a country

The world should treat population as a public resource and through sophisticated systems. Countries such as China have adopted many approaches to population control in the past, but currently their country's birth rate has fallen sharply and the number of elderly people is increasing. If you look at India their birth rate is 16.750 per thousand in the current year which is a decrease of -0.17% compared to 2023 and the birth rate in 2023 was 1.25% less than 2022.
On the other hand, the birth rate in Japan is also decreasing alarmingly. In 2024, the birth rate in Japan is only 6.995 per thousand, which is 0.26% lower than in 2023. However, the birth rate in the Asian region has been high in the past, but it is gradually decreasing. In the modern world there should be a balanced distribution of population so that scarcity can be eliminated through coordination.

Maintaining population is very important in all countries as the population increases the demand for goods and services will increase the market size will continue to increase in the days to come. As the population declines the number of working people in the country decreases putting additional pressure on the state to take care of them. If the population growth is negative then it has a bad effect on the economy. Also, as the number of elderly people increases many countries lose the capacity to care for the elderly.

I think each and every country should think about the population cause it is very important for any country to maintain this as there are many things and development depends on their population. Some countries are crying about their deceased of popular while country like india keep giving birth and getting overpopulated day by day. Although i heard china fall in a complex situation cause they had birth rules and many regulations. That's why people don't wanna have child anymore. Even now government trying to convince their people but people atill denying to have children. Same thing is happening in Japan also

Don't see any problem there. India is big country, so is for china. So if they can manage and empower their population then they will become benefited from them. People who live in different countries, have different mindset. That's why we seen overpopulation in some counties where other countries are worrying about their less population. Although china maintain their population with their rules and regulations where india giving more freedom to their people rather their hard and fast rules.

If India government what to control their high population in their country, I guess is very easy for them to control but based on religion things, it will be difficult for their government to allow such law in their land.

China population was close to be the highest population in the world, until their government put it into law to be giving birth to two children and it has reduced their population and is making them to make progress in their country and they have enough resources to feed their people.

If you look at some countries that is feeling this global inflation most,  those countries that have  high population in their land because their government don't have the resources to finance them.

In plain sight I saw it on youtube the environmental conditions there (india and china) from the vloger show and I can conclude that it is quite more (on the road, pedestrian and culinary environment). How abundant the human resources are. I became curious and found the data=>this,  Yes, that's right, it's the first staircase. While it's still in the country, even if it's crowded, it's probably still within reasonable limits. I can't imagine when some people start to transfer their nationality and start to grow their ethnicity with time, it's good to have free space for some people from that country and make a reasonable atmosphere for the natives, so far in my country it's mostly rich Chinese . Maybe it will feel crowded when the descendants of the natives get more and more and the government has to take care of the natives too. Maybe it will feel crowded when the descendants of the natives are more and more and the government has to take care of the foreigners too. especially when the citizens themselves become workers for these new immigrants, there is actually no prohibition because I agree that money obliterates the sense of recognition about it, so consider the opportunity.

I think there are some countries that make bilateral agreements between two countries that are not civilians know, especially have enough permits and budgets to become a new citizen . the country still prioritises its citizens, although some countries allow immigrants to provide opportunities and do not discriminate, I tolerate it because there are mutual benefits in that aspect even though they are different fields.

Over population has its own pros and cons, let's take China and India for example both being at the top 1 and two in terms of population makes them to be a manufacturer of multiple products for the entire world and particularly China is dominating every sector business and no other country can manufacture products for their cost. China already have strict policies in terms of having kids because the availability of natural resources is limited which may end up in a situation that can be worse.

Of other o we populated countries can cop China to make sure that they regulate their population, i think the issue of over population would be okay and things will keep moving as normal  normal. There are so countries where citizens give birth to children anyhow without being regulated. This have to be controlled so that over population would not cause severe hunger in the world.
Each country should endeavor to work on their population so that the problem of over population would be amended.

I'm even surprised that someone here is in support of  child birth control or population control. If you're in support of population control that means your obviously not in support of freedom, all this control systems that are developed are merely means of having full control over the country.

Governments of countries like China wants to own the lives of their citizens in there hands and as such there have implemented all this new regulations on child birth.
In India the population growth is nice and I believe that it's going to have a good effect in the economy of the country no matter what people thinks about it, in less than no time India's will beging to country the world decision with there population and when that begins to happen countries with low population will begin to feel like the India's are dragging the world power.

To OP,  when there is a good resources management policy there is absolutely need to worry about the well being of the citizens because it's surely going to better with them. So thinking that the resource will not reach the people who need it is not right. From here I use to even wish my country becomes the most populated in the would and even the biggest to contain us all hence we will making influences in the world decision.

The population of each country is Perculiar to them. What may be termed 'over population' in country A may be seen as a normal population or even under-population in country B. This solely depends on the country's land mass and resources available. This goes to explain the fact that population can not be evenly distributed between countries all over the world. It is left for any country who thinks it is suffering from over population or under population to bring up policies to control its population. No country is competing with the other in terms of population size, countries know their abilities and the ideal population size needed for the country's growth and development. If these facts are neglected, then they will have to deal with more economic and political issues.

China has been trying to regulate their population for as long as I know.

The infamous one child policy has been implemented by China back then in order to maintain a specific amount of people living in the country. Too much population is definitely not a good thing and can hinder economic growth.

The problem about China is, they have slave labor, and some of it is child slave labor. People who benefit from products made in China, are people who are supporting slavery.

as long as they are able to manage thier population in the right way such that poverty doesn't struck and and resources gets to those that needs it, population isn't much of a big problem. And again, it's deficult to regulate global population such that thier is some level of equality amongst different nations of the world, don't know if it's just a biased reasoning from my end but in reality, every nation has the way to view increase in the population of thier citizens and while to some, an increase in population shows dominance and showcases how good thier military and workforce can become, others might not necessarily look at it from that angle.

Moderating on how many childrens couples should have should necessarily be a common solution to the high rise in the population of people in the world but the big issue is that after putting such law that kind of restrict a family from having more than a certain number of children and they end up having more than the expected number, what then is going to be the action of the government towards such people becomes a serious issue to be looked into.

I'm not familiar with India's economy, but it's ok if China's economy is increasing, because they're an industrialized country, they need the manpower to boost their productions, which will make their economy to be among the best in the world. Where I have a problem with population explosion is in impoverished countries, where there's high unemployment rate and their governments depends on developed countries for aids to feed their citizens and provide basic amenities. These underdeveloped countries should practice birth control to reduce their population, so there'll be less dependants and destitutes.

The life nature has been made too natural that nothing should be in excessive moderation has always been the best. I really concur to all your statement of over population as not a good one as it's the course of many uncontrollable crime rate in any society facing over population.

All if effects if over population has been listed here in your post as it speak allot in my mind. What I can only add as advantage of over population which can't even override it disadvantages is area if war and defense, it's very difficult to wipe out nation with a very high population, also high population help to harness all levels of resources found in any nation though it may be illegally harness since government may find it difficult to control the crime increase of over population .

A dairy farmer cares about his cows. After all, he makes money from the milk they supply. But you are right. Government only cares about money and power. Benefits for the people are only an incidental side effect.

Overpopulation is a blessing to most Governments because this helps them to exploit the people more through the illegal taxes. What China and the like of Japan realized is that their populations grow rates have dwindled, mostly due to the earlier policies and high infertility rates. This also means the countries productivity power will drop in an attempt to compete with other superpowers for supremacy. This is the reason China had decided to make a complete U turn on it's earlier policies.

I don't think they care about food, shelter, education, medical care to the people 

About one-third of the world's population lives in India and China. In some countries, population growth is being controlled by government laws, where the government sets a maximum number of births, and in those countries where population control is being attempted, those countries are showing a decline in population growth. In countries where there are no specific rules regarding childbirth, the population is growing steadily. Anyway I don't think any country will accept population distribution to control population in future. However, in order to control the population, the population should be controlled by giving birth to two or one child through the official legal process in the respective countries.

Overpopulation is a threat to any country.  Because overpopulation is never good for a country.  When the population increases, the country's corruption, anti-politics, terrorism and various problems increase.  And most of the problems remain hidden from the government.  Moreover, when the population of a country increases, it becomes very difficult to provide food, shelter, education, medical care to the people of that country and no one gets equal services.  Moreover, more births result in more malnourished children and premature deaths of mothers.  Everything needs to be within limits, nothing is too good.

The leaders of the world want to concentrate the people in the cities, so they can milk them like a farmer milks cattle.

There is plenty of room on Earth. Consider seasteading - https://duckduckgo.com/?q=seasteading&ia=web.

Look at what happened a few short years ago just outside of Thailand - https://www.scmp.com/news/asia/southeast-asia/article/3006682/thailand-wants-us-killed-bitcoin-couple-who-lived-ocean.

Elwar - is he still active in the forum here? Look at this page to see what Elwar said in the past about what he might be doing now - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.53866550.

Ocean Builders website is listed there, but I don't think that they are having much success these days. Elwar was building off bitcoins he had saved up. Then the btc price dropped.

My point is, the oceans of the world cover about 70% of the surface of the Earth. And they could support a whole lot of people, except that people would rather complain about population than move out there. And governments agree with the people because they don't want to lose their services. People are slaves.



EDIT: Ocean Builders is still at it. Their newer website is - https://oceanbuilders.com/#emf.

I am not surprised when the world government almost uses the covid 19 to destroy the world population which was not that effective.
There are many ways we can control over population through the control of birth rate and it is one of the things China is trying to meet up with so that over population would not make the country to run into over population which could be a big problem to the entire country. The movement of people from one region to the other can also increase the population of people in a particular region.

I believe it is critical to be open-minded and investigate other approaches to these difficulties. I admire your notion of increasing the nutritional value of life in highly populated nations. This might include expanding availability of healthcare, education, and various additional resources, as well as lowering poverty and strengthening infrastructure. This might make individuals happier with their life and less inclined to wish to leave. Furthermore, if transportation technology improves, it may become simpler and more economical to travel great distances fast, thus alleviating population pressure in particular locations. Additionally, people may be able to work virtually from any part of the globe.

a country with a population will definitely not be free from health and social problems, so it is necessary to have clear rules made by the government in each country and infrastructure development ^{(the population density in China and India)} can boost population equity because there are also many residents who do not want to live in villages because the infrastructure is villages which are bad whereas big cities have good infrastructure.

Apart from China, India also does strange things like this, there was an uproar where many women aborted their wombs when they found out that it was a girl, i know that in many countries there are still many who adhere to this kind of ideology and this violates human rights.

This is absurd and a total abuse to human right. Why are they worried now and wants to boost up the population. It means that a time will come when two men will get married to one woman because the females will not be enough for those that wants to get married,which will bring great decline in their population. Before taking some drastic actions,we should also consider the aftermath of our actions.

 Any country that opens boarder for immigrants, it means that they are short of labour force and believe that they can get what they need from the neighboring countries. If not for this purpose, no country will accept immigrants into their country due to racism, insecurity and fear of the unknown.

Why it should be evenly distributed?
If you think that population is a problem then you wouldn't want your country to be densely populated. It's not a race actually, India and China are facing a big problem, and other countries just need to manage their own population.

My fear is that there will not be enough resources for people in highly populated countries -> become poor -> and then self-destruct or start wagering war to get neighboring resources.

I don't know how to find a way to distribute the population all over the world evenly.? I think this is impossible because most countries will not accept it.

The only possible way is through continuous immigration that causes demographic change but in the very long term.

But on the other hand, immigration also has disadvantages because most countries do not receive immigrants except those who have high educational qualifications or manual skills, and this will lead to the emergence of very advanced societies versus very backward societies.

however, the decline in the Chinese population that is predicted to occur by 2100 will not experience a drastic decline if we look at their current population.

[1] https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-64300190

based on the article above, research on the decline of the Chinese population has been studied since 1961, so it must be that the policy involving only 1 child has begun to be loosened by the Chinese government.

My observation are that maybe 2% of humans are 'born different' in a way that they feel uncomfortable being followers.  They might be viewed as 'freedom loving' so to speak.  In my experience, this rate seems very uniform across 'races'.

Culture certainly pressures the 'fat middle' of these types of people in one direction or the other.  I would say that Asian culture generally pushes that middle toward the 'follower' expression in life ways, and not always in a very gentle manner.  On the converse is my situation as an early gen-X'er from the West Coast of the U.S. were individuality was a virtue and there was not such a selection of pre-canned identities to choose from, more people kind of had to roll-their-own identity.  Basically if you take a sample of 1000 typical Chinese born in the late 1960's and 1000 with my life history, you would end up with, say 40 naturally born non-followers in each group.  Where 30 might end up non-followers at age 50 in my group, only 10 would remain so in the Chinese group.

But with 1,000,000,000 peeps, 0.5% is still a lot.  A lot more than the CCP would probably like to go up against so deftly integrating them into success or leadership positions, and/or encouraging them to leave the country, is probably the best option.

A complication is that Chinese culture (if not biological wiring) puts economic success at a much higher focus.  Striking out on one's own is very common even among Chinese who are naturally followers in a lot of cases for economic reasons alone.  We see that all over the world and especially in S.E. Asia.  A good friend of mine was in this category and he called the Chinese 'the Jews of Asia.'  He also was counciled by his father that good success is more likely in out-lying regions of the host country rather than in the larger trading centers.  It had to do with competition I believe, and dynastic family lock-in is pretty universal across almost all human societies.

Anyway, I do believe that there would be plenty of Chinese who have the various characteristics needed to make Africa workable.  S.E. Asia is not necessarily always super friendly to the Ethnic Chinese either.  Maybe in Africa they would tend to just drop the ethnic/cultural/intellectual supremacy baggage, focus on up-lifting everyone, and basically avoid some oft-repeated mistakes which lead to anticipatable personal dangers.  The last pogroms that I am aware of were in Malaysia in 1999 which isn't that long ago, and as far as I can tell the power dynamics between the 'native' oligarchical families and the Chinese tycoons are almost indistinguishable from country to country.

I don't believe that there have ever been flat-out anti-Chinese pogroms in The Philippines, but I would note that the Chinese seem a little more integrated and not as prone to focus on 'preserving their pure bloodlines' and that sort of thing.  Doing so is begging for trouble, and well deserved trouble in my humble opinion.  Beyond that, I'd suspect that in their heart-of-hearts, most Filipinos recognize that the 'native' politicians are at least 1/2 of whatever corruption is underway, and in the case of The Philippines especially, the U.S. and Globalist powers will pick up whatever 1/2 is dropped by the ethnic Chinese tycoons.

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I worked in Silicon Valley with a lot of Chinese, Indians, and generally smart people from all over the world.  It used to blow my mind that a government policy would allow a 1-in-a-million person from, say, India who had been educated at significant expense to just pack up, do great work for some ultra-fascist global entity in Si-Valley (e.g, ABC) for 20 years, get their now-American kids the best education money could buy in the new country (a LOT of money), then run out the clock in American opulence without a dime or any future benefits going to the home country.  At best they might buy their in-laws a home or something.

Now I understand!  Getting rid of 'the best and the brightest' in a home country is to the leadership of said home country, as I often say, 'not a bug; it's a feature.'  If these people would stay home or return home they are, to the leadership, a liability and a threat.  At least in a general way.

In trying to 'do my part' as an expat and as a dissident, I really do bend over backward to try to pick out local people who have some potential and focus my efforts on giving them the tools and opportunities to realize their potential.  It may not serve the current leadership of the country very well but I am confident that it will pay dividends to the society at large, and that is what I do care about more.

The population growth is truly exponential and if no law shall be made like a one, two, or three-child policy. The economy of a country will have to be adjusted as well unless they wouldn't care for the welfare of their people.

True, in Japan, they're hiring and attracting more young people to come to them so that they'll be able to replace that potential aging population that shall give them no more workforce.

India was supposed to be the next super power, except they can't even be bothered to fix their sanitation problem to stop open defecation. The strategy for China and India was to produce as many children as possible to raise their GDP, even if meant a large portion of their population was dying in poverty. Hopefully the rest of the developing nations don't follow their strategy.


The Chinese had started some infrastructure projects in the early 2000's after FOCAC formed. Looks to me like some of these partnerships failed because of the cultural incompatibilities but others might speculate differently as to why. Chinese males settling in parts of Africa would be a shock.

That is why the growth of national population can be only sustainable as long as the economy can grow as well and offer new jobs and opportunities for the incoming generations. As population grows, we could model it as an exponential rate (assuming it to be constant and there is not pandemics). However the economical growth of an economy is not possible to be exponential and constant.

There is always recession and bull markets, and those bad times are what could keep people from having children.

Even if Countries like Japan and Germany are suffering from aging population, they are still pretty good and stable places.

AFAIK, there's the two-child policy in China, and in this case, that's shown to control their population rate but then if India is going to be taking them over and they'll have more population in the midst of this year then that's record-breaking.
And as we know when the population rate is high, there can be a deficit in other things like consumables, employment rate, and other things that do heavily affected by the growing population of a nation.

You didn't seem to have paid much attention to the part that i just bold in your quote. It states that the Chinese population have been on a decline if I should recap.
The Chinese population already experienced an explosion and birth controls was put in place to make check its population which has been effective if you compare the population now with the last 10years.

While that of India might be a different story, we could applaud China on progress.

India's population is not the problem as far they are doing well as a country, then it's fine to me, though I know so many other person's might be struggling over there for survival, but if atleast 70% of the population is doing well(employed or are doing business) then it's okay and encouraging.
I see Nigeria there with  223.8 of population, first I might even say that estimation might not be correct because Nigerians don't even keep data of death and birth citizen in the country,
I'm just imagining the population of Nigeria is 223.8 and we are suffering this much, then think of it if we're populated like India, then it would have been worst....

The upside is that we are breeding a new flavor of mongrel goyim using the Chinese males sent over to Africa for construction projects who mate with African females.  It will be an intriguing experiment for us fans of Kalergi, and especially if some fraction of the Chinese decide to make Africa their home.  Of course the joys of social credit score technocratic totalitarianism are sure to draw most of the guys back to their motherland.

Population can never be distributed equitably over the earth. There are numerous reasons why this would not occur, even if people were aware of the consequences of overpopulation. Many people will relate the population effect to religious views.

Some religions believe and claim that the earth is a huge place intended for humans to live in, and that there will never be a day when the world will be so crowded that it is not conducive to live in. But this is about more than just a place to live; it is about having adequate access to resources needed for survival in abundance to support the world's population. I am hopeful that a long-term solution can be discovered shortly to basic amenities needed to live a sustainable life.

It is not nice that my country which has high level of unemployment in the country and high inflation rate and bad leadership is still having population growth day in day out. There should be some law to restrict countries who cannot take care of her citizens from increasing in their population. There should be some kind of sensitization to the rural dwellers that they don't need to be making babies that they cannot take care of and this falls in the hand of the government to implement.
Countries who provides for their citizens hardly appear in this list, yet countries that are not much organised are here with population increase.

if it is forced then there is nothing that can be done other than accepting citizens from other countries to be able to live and move there,
[1] https://www.euronews.com/travel/2023/04/12/want-to-get-paid-to-move-to-spain-or-italy-here-are-all-the-towns-in-need-of-new-residents

Stable population growth is needed so that a country's economy can continue to run, and developed countries that are experiencing population reduction are very worried about the future of their country.

thanks for the article, great read

In several articles, the Chinese government has changed their policy and realized that what they were doing was wrong, they have started changing the one child policy to a 2 child policy and only retaining sons like they have to change too because girl are important too.

China's population has suffered greatly for a few reasons. One of the main ones has been the single child policy, which imposed large fines on couples who had a second child and even forced abortions in the countryside, sometimes of women 8 months pregnant and the like.

Apart from an abuse of human rights, the tendency was to kill any girl baby and keep a boy and thus there are many more boys than girls. An example of an inhumane, wrong and sadistic policy.

In case you are not aware, Chain's population growth rate has been on a decline, and they have been worries to an extent that they want to boost the reproduction rate once again.

This is the same country that some years back had to limit its citizens from giving birth to more than 1 child per family. Perhaps the effect of that 1 child policy has kicked in.

The population of the world can never be balanced because each nation has its territorial integrity and population policies. Except there is a bilateral agreement between two nations, no nation can be forced to accept immigrants to balance their population quota. Racism will be another reason why it might be difficult to facilitate the distribution of population among different nations. Most people will never want to see Africans in their neighborhood because they can't t afford to live around them.

But there is population distribution going on currently. Nations like Canada, the UK, and the US always open their boundaries to immigrants to help in contributing to the workforce of the nation. Most nations use immigrants to cover up areas that have shortage of labor. The only difference is that they usually attract the best brains, rich or skillful. While those that cannot afford this immigration process have no chance of moving to these nations.

But it will be ideal to have a world where there will not be restrictions on movement from one country to another. This will be possible if many nations achieve economic development.

Some of these overpopulated countries should seriously think about seasteading - https://www.seasteading.org/.

A re distribution of the population from countries with a huge density of people per unit of area would imply a huge demographic change in several countries around the world which many governments and populations would not be able to accept, for political reasons, religious reasons and even race questions.

Imagine how people from Japan, the United States, Brazil or the United Kingdom would react if their governments announced a special plan to offer permanent residence to anyone of India and China who would be willing to move in. Many would not be happy about it, I tell you.

[1] https://www.reuters.com/world/india/india-have-29-mln-more-people-than-china-by-mid-2023-un-estimate-shows-2023-04-19/
[2] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-01-18/india-s-population-overtakes-china-to-become-world-s-biggest-analysts-estimate#xj4y7vzkg

when we see that several countries are experiencing population decline, China and India are competing to dominate the population in their countries, but i believe that in the future this needs to be regulated in such a way that the population distribution throughout the world is evenly distributed.