Topic: [Position Taken] Campaign Manager for TappaBit.com (Read 1105 times)

Gr8. You are selected bro. I wish you a heartly congratulations from my side for being selected for the new coming signature campaign .

Hopefully this campaign will have very little signature related insubstantial posts, and those that do make a lot of such posts will quickly get kicked before a ban is necessary.

Congrats dear hilariousandco for becoming the part of that campaign, I wish you best of luck, as you are senior of me and trusted, may you prove helpful for that campaign

Thanks for choosing me and thanks to everyone else that recommended me. Was nice to see actually. 

Hi guys,

I want to say a HUGE thank you to everyone that commented on this post and everyone who applied for the position.

I wish I could PM back everyone but I can only post every 360 seconds because of my status.

For me, Mitchell's post did make sense, but still I came to the conclusion I should work with just 1 person.

The person I decided to go with is the one the community has supported, hillariousandco. Other people have contacted me, people that sound skillful in what they are doing, but in the end I care a lot about trust also.

Thank you

TappaBit Admin

I don't think that the "counter" and "manager" should/need to be two different people. If the company trusts the manager enough to make the judgment calls associated with running the campaign then there is no reason why they should not be trusted enough to count posts. Plus when posts are counted post quality is pretty much automatically reviewed so the campaign manager would kick people from the campaign who are not living up to expectations. Plus doing this would give somewhat of a false sense of security as people can have alt accounts, sometimes many alt accounts.

Another issue with this is the fact that it increases the cost of the campaign. It also will reduce accountability as when the campaign starts to be associated with spam throughout the forum, both the manager and the counter will try to push blame on the other and in many cases, neither would be responsible for the spam if they are two people.

I also don't think the escrow and the person who pays need to be two people, although they can be if the company is paying people directly. This is not how escrow works. If two people are doing a currency exchange deal then the person selling Bitcoin will send the Bitcoin to the escrow, the person buying Bitcoin will send fiat to the seller then once the seller confirms receipt of the fiat, he will send the Bitcoin to the buyer, all in that order. If the escrow ends up running away with the money the seller is not responsible for sending additional Bitcoin to the buyer. The same general principle would work with signature campaigns. The participants are trusting the escrow to pay them.

The agreement with signature campaigns is that the advertisers agree to make a certain number of posts in exchange for a certain payment amount and the escrow will guarantee payment. The escrow can guarantee payment because he is holding funds from the company so if the company does end up running away he can pay out from those funds. If it is the escrow or the company that pays the participants is a logistical question and escrows will generally charge less if they are not having to pay out to a lot of people.

I would suggest hiring hilariousandco as I would argue that he has the strongest ethics out of everyone who will likely apply, although there are a few people who have handled campaigns in the past that still have strong ethics.

If it is decided that the escrow will be different then the escrow then I would be willing to hold escrow for the campaign for a small fee.

If TappaBit is only looking for one person to hire for both the jobs (Manager + Escrow) than I think Hilariousandco is more then well suited IMHO, he's a very patient guy and treats everyone fairly and he's online most of the time.

I agree with Mitchell, although there are some problems with that... As carra mentioned, that requires a higher budget.  It also would be time consuming as for information would have to be passed to everyone.

If you need an escrow for the funds, I can help you out - here is my thread if you are interested:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=631008.160

Incorrect.  I remember that there were Staff members that were liars and in my opinion, scammers.

Good Luck!

The main problem is cost, and practically all campaigns with low to mid budgets will not be able to hire all of them and still be profitable. In practice sites can spare 1 - 3BTC a month and so it becomes essential to cut costs as much as possible to make them effective.

The only big budget campaigns are DaDice and Bit-x, and the former is what you described. It is possible as they are willing to spend on fees to make it a good campaign.

I understand your reasoning but I totally disagree that they're needed in all situations and having 3 or 4 persons running a campaign is totally overkill in my opinion and possibly even only increases the likelihood or problems, crossed signals and the possibility of someone scamming (not to mention it adds extra cost to the campaign for every additional person involved). I personally would rather have someone very trusted to run everything and be in charge of the entire thing than having several people involved and if you can find someone trusted to do everything then that is a big plus in my opinion and ensures the campaign runs smoothly. I could understand using an escrow if you had a relatively unknown or untrusted person running it but I don't think it's needed in every case. The campaigns that have the manager handle everything (or nearly everything) seem to run smoother, whereas the ones that don't tend to lag behind. Take Bitstars for example. Their campaign has started late every month and payments took between 1-2 weeks in some cases to actually get sent out because there were so many parties involved. The campaign manager had to get the ok from his boss, then send off the details to the escrow, who then had to issue payments and there were delays at each point. When I ran the EdenDice campaign I handled everything involved in running it from managing it, keeping an eye on users, escrow, and sending payouts and they got sent out on the day they should and that's the way I would prefer to do it. I have no issue if the person behind the campaign wanted to do it differently or use another escrow but in my opinion it's just complicating things in certain situations.


It's not difficult to run a campaign fully but it can be hard work, but that's something I'm willing to do. I would make the case that you couldn't guarantee the campaign will run 100% smoothly if you have numerous parties involved and I would argue that I can give 100% and that's why I think I'm good for the job as I can do everything. I only run one other currently and that has around five users at the moment so that's not an issue and I feel I could run several campaigns simultaneously without problems and hope to do so over time, but I certainly wouldn't take on more than I felt I could handle (and don't forget there are also users running or involved in numerous campaigns currently).

This is really called experience, you proved it. I was also really thinking the same thing that how could a single person can menage a campaign? Like hilariousandco already doing good job for one or two campaign, It could be a lot of burden on him, and at last he couldnt give 100% result. Thats why I think you should choose more than one candidate for your campaign. You can also choose hilariousandco for as an escrow or some thing else, as he is trusted person here.
I also wanted to apply for this job, I dont have previous work but wana start from your campaign.   

I highly disagree with hilarousandco being both campaign manager and the person doing escrow. Not because I don't trust him (I do, a lot), but because those two things shouldn't be handled by the same person as it's an conflict of interest. A perfect campaign, in my opinion, should have either 3 or 4 persons that have no relation to each other:

1. The campaign manager, they handle signups, check people's history, promotes the signature campaign, etc. This can either be the company or someone they hired.
2. A person that holds the funds for the campaign and pays everyone. This person shouldn't have any connection with the campaign manager or the company itself. This ensures that no post padding or friend benefits happen within a campaign.
3. The person responsible for counting posts (if you don't use a bot). Again, no connections with anyone else to prevent people to receive special treatment. The campaign manager will have to double check these numbers. This could be done by the campaign manager (hence 3 people), but someone else will need to check the final count. This can't be done by the person responsible for payment, because a conflict of interest exists.
4. The person doing escrow. This person holds a set amount of coins in case the campaign, campaign manager or the person paying disappears until the end of the signature campaign. They will be the judge in any conflicts that might happen and they can't be involved with the campaign in any way.

This is very picky and annoying, I know, but if you want a good campaign this is how I would do it. I'm sure a lot of people won't agree with me, but so be it.

Tappabit admin,

If you are looking for the best one, I will recommend "hilariousandco "  as a campaign manager and escrow too for holding funds. His position itself enough as Trust.

MedUSA, Roslinpl and izanagi are all good.


I'd suggest doing this. Fairer to all and you can choose the one you like best. Maybe give a small bonus to the runners up or something.

Well hilariousandco can be the best candidate.

It seems that you're not having signature as well. I can make it for all ranks for cheap price
previous work (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/izanagi-s-service-788233)

or you can held some design contest, About BTC 0.1 ~ 0.2 will attract more professional signature designer

I think I meet all the criteria requested in the OP, plus I have a few good ideas how you can make your campaign better than the others (or at least more attractive even if on a smaller budget).


Thanks for the vouches/recommendations guys.

Hi, I wanted to apply for this job. Im already promoting my site, piiko.com, you can see inservice section. Im mostly more than 15 hour active here on this forum.
Let me send you a pm also.

Thanks

Edited: Extra services that i talked about in pm are here:  https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/best-service-providerforum-postssignupsapps-downloadsproduct-search-800016

I second this.

I think you should hire hilariousandco he is staff, trusted and looking to be a campaign manager, i suggest you to contact him