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Quote from: UserU on September 06, 2021, 07:51:40 AM

One could always reply to another's reply; i.e. the quote and that doesn't always refer to the OP's question.

If you are replying to an off-topic post that diverts the discussion from the original idea or topic, you are participating in the process of changing the course of that discussion to something that shouldn't be. If the off-topic post gets deleted, so will your off-topic reply to that post.

But that is something we have all done and sometimes the discussion expands in such a way that you forget what the original OP was even about.

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Quote from: Pmalek on September 06, 2021, 01:54:44 AM

Quote from: jrrsparkles on September 05, 2021, 03:02:23 PM

Posts which are considered as spam are not related to the topic then it will be deleted when a mod see it or when someone report it.

His reply was related to the topic. He even briefly mentioned a flaw he found with the service he tested.

If that is the case then it should be sorted out, I am not sure is there any post deletion got revised after the appeal but it can be avoided in future. he mod who handled it can give better explanation for this than anyone so we can identify the actual reason behind the deletion.

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Quote from: jrrsparkles on September 05, 2021, 03:02:23 PM

Don't reply to in a mega thread

One could always reply to another's reply; i.e. the quote and that doesn't always refer to the OP's question.

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Quote from: jrrsparkles on September 05, 2021, 03:02:23 PM

Posts which are considered as spam are not related to the topic then it will be deleted when a mod see it or when someone report it.

His reply was related to the topic. He even briefly mentioned a flaw he found with the service he tested.

Quote from: jrrsparkles on September 05, 2021, 03:02:23 PM

In general your posts will be deleted if you post generic replies or saying something which has been already told even in the same thread a million times already.

That didn't happen either. His post was the first and only post made in that particular thread.

Quote from: jrrsparkles on September 05, 2021, 03:02:23 PM

Don't reply to in a mega thread

A post isn't necessarily bad/spam/off-topic just because it's in a megathread. If the problem is with the thread itself, then it's the thread that should be deleted or locked.

Quote from: jrrsparkles on September 05, 2021, 03:02:23 PM

Avoid posting one liners just for the sake of increasing your post count

No arguments there. One liners and replies that don't move the discussion in the right direction should be avoided.

Quote from: jrrsparkles on September 05, 2021, 03:02:23 PM

Avoid replying to a very old thread when it doesn't necessary

True, but there are also valid reasons why you could do it and where it would be deemed necessary.

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Manually writing a reason for each post would probably be too much however if forum could add some pre-written reasons and mods have to select a reason when the post is deleted would be nice addition imo.

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Quote from: Proofer on September 04, 2021, 04:54:11 PM

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A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by a Bitcoin Forum moderator. Posts are most frequently deleted because they are off-topic, though they can also be deleted for other reasons. In the future, please avoid posting things that need to be deleted.

May I suggest that, when the reasons are "other" that some guidance be provided so that I may "avoid posting things that need to be deleted"? The quoted email reports on a reply which was definitely on-topic, and I have no idea why it was deleted.

I understand that mods don't want to get into discussions of, i.e., arguments about, such decisions but might some variations of the boilerplate be assembled to provide a clue?

Posts which are considered as spam are not related to the topic then it will be deleted when a mod see it or when someone report it. In general your posts will be deleted if you post generic replies or saying something which has been already told even in the same thread a million times already.

I can give you some tips to avoid the post deletion in future which are

Don't reply to in a mega thread
Avoid posting one liners just for the sake of increasing your post count
Avoid replying to a very old thread when it doesn't necessary

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If your post was only a "thanks, great thread" kind of post, I would understand the reason it got deleted. That's absolutely worthless, especially in a thread that old. But your post also contained a good piece of information, and that is that the node manager doesn't display peers with onion addresses. OP doesn't mention that, so I wouldn't classify your reply as being worthless.

However, if you added some more info and it looked a bit more like a review that showed what you thought about it, I think it wouldn't have been deleted. If you have valid questions or concerns about the app, you should have the right to express those in the original thread.

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When answering this thread, there was a warning written in red. Isn't it a red flag to think about what it's done for? What set of rules should be if you have been warned, and you do not see and do not take into consideration an understanding deeper than this issue?

Almost off-topic:
Probably, it is also necessary to warn everyone who is going to make plagiarism in the same way, before starting any message, write in red and in large print about the inadmissibility of plagiarism.

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Quote from: Proofer on September 04, 2021, 04:54:11 PM

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A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by a Bitcoin Forum moderator. Posts are most frequently deleted because they are off-topic, though they can also be deleted for other reasons. In the future, please avoid posting things that need to be deleted.

The email you received has some reasons but frankly, it is a template from moderator. Sometimes they will give you specific reasons but most of time, they only use templates.

The rest is your responsibility, read forum rules again and find out what you broke.

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on September 04, 2021, 08:19:09 PM

Quote from: Proofer on September 04, 2021, 07:15:29 PM

If the thread is too old to take replies, I'm not sure why the OP isn't deleted.

I'm finding it hard to argue with you on this one,

If we are to face the fact on this, that a post isn't open to new replies doesn't make the contents useless. It simply implies that the post has been discussed exhaustively and there is literally no corner of the subject in question that haven't been touched if one can go through the replies serially and for a thread with several pages, a lot of persons won't. Still, users bump into it every now & them and still get informations like you did even with the fact that, in your case as concerns this topic, it haven't been really discussed but still, your reply tends to beat a dead horse.
Mean while, your suggestion ain't a bad one as, it gives a clear directive on what to avoid.

Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on September 04, 2021, 08:19:09 PM

Maybe next time, just start up a thread of your own and quote from the old thread if you need to. That's pretty much guaranteed to not get deleted.

I think this is the best way to have gone about presenting your new ideas so long as, it comes with more and more information and innovations on the context. It would be well appreciated.

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on September 04, 2021, 08:19:09 PM

Quote from: Proofer on September 04, 2021, 07:15:29 PM

If the thread is too old to take replies, I'm not sure why the OP isn't deleted.

I'm finding it hard to argue with you on this one, although I do understand why your post was deleted. Most of the time when someone necrobumps a thread that old, it's because they need to post for their sig campaign or bounty and somehow they've run out of threads in which they can write something. In your case, your intentions seem to have been genuine....and yet there's a rule against bumping old threads....and yet those threads remain open.

There is generally a higher threshold for a new post to be on-topic when the previous post was made a long time ago. In many cases, it would be better for someone to create a new thread instead of posting in an old thread. If a post is not substantial enough to account for making a new thread, it may not be appropriate to create the post. One reason for this is because once a thread is bumped, everyone is encouraged to read it by way of the thread appearing on watchlists, and at the top of the sub it is in, and is marked as having new replies. Someone reading to an old thread may reply to the second or third to last post (for example), that may have been written months or years ago, and now contain outdated information.

Quote from: Proofer on September 04, 2021, 04:54:11 PM

May I suggest that, when the reasons are "other" that some guidance be provided so that I may "avoid posting things that need to be deleted"? The quoted email reports on a reply which was definitely on-topic, and I have no idea why it was deleted.

I do agree that it would be nice for the mods to have an option to give a more specific reason as to why a post was removed. Currently, some mods will send an (automated) PM from their forum account for certain reasons, however not all mods do this, and this invites mods that do this to receive excessive number of PMs from forum users.

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Quote from: Proofer on September 04, 2021, 07:15:29 PM

If the thread is too old to take replies, I'm not sure why the OP isn't deleted.

I'm finding it hard to argue with you on this one, although I do understand why your post was deleted. Most of the time when someone necrobumps a thread that old, it's because they need to post for their sig campaign or bounty and somehow they've run out of threads in which they can write something. In your case, your intentions seem to have been genuine....and yet there's a rule against bumping old threads....and yet those threads remain open.

Yeah, some things just don't run smoothly around here, and this is one of them.

If this was all you wrote, it's not surprising someone reported it. It looks like just a shitpost on its face; there's no way for the reader to know that you really had an interest in the subject.

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Nice monitor! However, it doesn't display peers having .onion (Tor) addresses.

Maybe next time, just start up a thread of your own and quote from the old thread if you need to. That's pretty much guaranteed to not get deleted.

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Quote from: hosseinimr93 on September 04, 2021, 05:14:12 PM

You replied to a topic which was inactive for more than 4 years.
Your post was probably reported by someone and deleted because it was considered as spam or due to necro-bumping (making a useless post on a thread which has been inactive for a very long time.)

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Nice monitor! However, it doesn't display peers having .onion (Tor) addresses.

I made that post because I thought it would be quite useful to someone like ... me! The topic subject is a remote GUI monitor for bitcoind (or -qt). Evidently this freeware open-source software got little attention and use, but it looked like exactly what I needed so I spent non-trivial time installing it. For users who don't care about the deficiency I noted it's a "nice monitor!" For those, like me, who do, it's disappointing. I have no connection with the author.

Thanks for the explanation, although in this instance I'm not persuaded by the rationales. If the thread is too old to take replies, I'm not sure why the OP isn't deleted. There's no need to get into the weeds on this, but my suggestion stands.

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The forum rules will mostly give you a clue as to why your post was deleted. According to Loyce.club your last deleted post was in this 3-year-old thread. So the most likely reason was either it was because of necro bumping(raising a very old thread from the dead) or low quality posting.

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You replied to a topic which was inactive for more than 4 years.
Your post was probably reported by someone and deleted because it was considered as spam or due to necro-bumping (making a useless post on a thread which has been inactive for a very long time.)

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Nice monitor! However, it doesn't display peers having .onion (Tor) addresses.

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A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by a Bitcoin Forum moderator. Posts are most frequently deleted because they are off-topic, though they can also be deleted for other reasons. In the future, please avoid posting things that need to be deleted.

May I suggest that, when the reasons are "other" that some guidance be provided so that I may "avoid posting things that need to be deleted"? The quoted email reports on a reply which was definitely on-topic, and I have no idea why it was deleted.

I understand that mods don't want to get into discussions of, i.e., arguments about, such decisions but might some variations of the boilerplate be assembled to provide a clue?

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